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Debtor's Prison - Coming to a town near you!?

 
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[link to www.startribune.com]

You committed no crime, but an officer is knocking on your door. More Minnesotans are surprised to find themselves being locked up over debts.

As a sheriff's deputy dumped the contents of Joy Uhlmeyer's purse into a sealed bag, she begged to know why she had just been arrested while driving home to Richfield after an Easter visit with her elderly mother.

No one had an answer. Uhlmeyer spent a sleepless night in a frigid Anoka County holding cell, her hands tucked under her armpits for warmth. Then, handcuffed in a squad car, she was taken to downtown Minneapolis for booking. Finally, after 16 hours in limbo, jail officials fingerprinted Uhlmeyer and explained her offense -- missing a court hearing over an unpaid debt. "They have no right to do this to me," said the 57-year-old patient care advocate, her voice as soft as a whisper. "Not for a stupid credit card."

It's not a crime to owe money, and debtors' prisons were abolished in the United States in the 19th century. But people are routinely being thrown in jail for failing to pay debts. In Minnesota, which has some of the most creditor-friendly laws in the country, the use of arrest warrants against debtors has jumped 60 percent over the past four years, with 845 cases in 2009, a Star Tribune analysis of state court data has found.

Not every warrant results in an arrest, but in Minnesota many debtors spend up to 48 hours in cells with criminals. Consumer attorneys say such arrests are increasing in many states, including Arkansas, Arizona and Washington, driven by a bad economy, high consumer debt and a growing industry that buys bad debts and employs every means available to collect.

Whether a debtor is locked up depends largely on where the person lives, because enforcement is inconsistent from state to state, and even county to county.

"The law enforcement system has unwittingly become a tool of the debt collectors," said Michael Kinkley, an attorney in Spokane, Wash., who has represented arrested debtors. "The debt collectors are abusing the system and intimidating people, and law enforcement is going along with it."

Taxpayers foot the bill for arresting and jailing debtors. In many cases, Minnesota judges set bail at the amount owed.

In Minnesota, judges have issued arrest warrants for people who owe as little as $85 -- less than half the cost of housing an inmate overnight. Debtors targeted for arrest owed a median of $3,512 in 2009, up from $2,201 five years ago.
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06/10/2010 12:33 AM
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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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No one cares until they come for them...
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06/10/2010 01:06 AM
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This is just sick. Banks get free bailout out money, and poor people are being thrown in jail for being poor. This needs to get the attention of the media.
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06/10/2010 01:08 AM
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knock,knock

whos there?

bla,blam,blam

now were all dead ya
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06/10/2010 08:34 AM
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bump
lynleo
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06/11/2010 09:49 AM
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This is scarey. I am not in debt any more, I have worked hard to get myself debt-free, it just makes life so much easier.

But to think I could get jailed for an insignificant debt, perhaps one I have missed, I shudder to think of what this nation is headed toward.

There will be rioting in the streets over this and other excesses of the law. Mark my words, blood is coming.

yoda
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06/11/2010 09:51 AM
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This is just sick. Banks get free bailout out money, and poor people are being thrown in jail for being poor. This needs to get the attention of the media.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998589

wtf
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06/11/2010 09:55 AM
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There will be rioting in the streets over this and other excesses of the law. Mark my words, blood is coming.

yoda
 Quoting: lynleo 768376


in the US? no. american people will just bend over and take it, just like they have everything else so far.
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06/11/2010 09:57 AM
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they already have it. Ordered to pay. Don't pay. Go to jail for contempt of court.
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06/11/2010 09:58 AM
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Just pay your bills and you've got no need to worry about this. Some things really are that simple.
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06/11/2010 10:01 AM
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Wasn't this the one that was about her court hearing. Not about not paying.

I mean, when it's about court, it's different than not paying.
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06/11/2010 10:02 AM
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Just pay your bills and you've got no need to worry about this. Some things really are that simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53618

sounds simple.if we lived in a perfect world.sometimes life circumstances change things .I guess you never have these things happen to you .good for you
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06/11/2010 10:09 AM
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It's a wake-up call. Whiny, dead-beat sheeple moochers will not make it at all when TSHTF.
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06/11/2010 10:10 AM
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Just pay your bills and you've got no need to worry about this. Some things really are that simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53618


why wheren't you telling that to Goldman Sachs and all the other too big to fail investment instutions?
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06/11/2010 10:11 AM
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It's a wake-up call. Whiny, dead-beat sheeple moochers will not make it at all when TSHTF.
 Quoting: Doominator 162364


you are wrong buddy. we will be the ones best prepared for we had to learn to live outside the system for awhile. It will be those still addicted to the current system that will have a hard time adjusting.
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a civil court summons is not the same as a court order or subpeona [sp?], is it?

i owed at least 80G in credit cards, flipped off every court document, and now i'm past the statute of limitations and legally debt free. minnesota would never do this with jessie ventura at the helm.
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06/11/2010 10:24 AM
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a civil court summons is not the same as a court order or subpeona [sp?], is it?

i owed at least 80G in credit cards, flipped off every court document, and now i'm past the statute of limitations and legally debt free. minnesota would never do this with jessie ventura at the helm.
 Quoting: a passing cloud


People like you make me sick. I can see a "poor" person getting into trouble to the tune of a few thousand by using their credit card to make ends meet yes. Been there and done that, in fact.

...but 80 FUCKING GRAND? How is that even possible?
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06/11/2010 10:25 AM
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Re: Debtor's Prison - Coming to a town near you!?
A timely article written by Martin Armstrong addresses over-regulation and how it ultimately impacts our lives.

Link:
[link to www.martinarmstrong.org]





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