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Definition:

1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
3.
a. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
b. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.



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Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

tomato
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hi FC hf


Yes.....

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That movie was seriuosly fucked up.
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FUCK NO
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hi FC hf


Yes.....

x
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hugs
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Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

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bsflag

That is the most stupid comment I have so far read in relation to this man-made disaster.
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That movie was seriuosly fucked up.
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What movie?
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Why?
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Definition:

1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
3.
a. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
b. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.



My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

tomato
 Quoting: Full Circle

I don't think the ocean life "decided", I think BP chose for them!?
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Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?



bsflag

That is the most stupid comment I have so far read in relation to this man-made disaster.
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Why? Does a martyr have to be Christian? Are you in tune with the Earth and it's varied life forms? Or do they not exist for you?
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Definition:

1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
3.
a. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
b. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.



My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

tomato
 Quoting: Full Circle

Sorry, makes no sense.
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That movie was seriuosly fucked up.


What movie?
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rent it. its one of the freakest movies ive ever seen...
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Definition:

1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
3.
a. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
b. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.



My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

tomato

I don't think the ocean life "decided", I think BP chose for them!?
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I think BP had no say in this. To me, BP represents man, and the ocean represents Mother and Creation.

It could have been any oil company. At some point, this was going to happen.
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hi FC hf


Yes.....

x



hugs
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hugs
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The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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Unselfish shellfish
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happens, that's the life for yaa
My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?
 Quoting: Full Circle

if the path is right, there are no martyrs
only common effort.
so YES hf

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hugs

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A PERFECT example! Thank you!
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Simply put.....


ALL of life is important to the Creator's plan. We cannot just discount it as irrelevant to progression. How can we discount our cats and dogs and birds as irrelevant to our journey. They carry a message of great importance.


ALL is ONE.
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happens, that's the life for yaa

My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

if the path is right, there are no martyrs

only common effort.
so YES hf
 Quoting: eee



I guess that is because the path has not been right?

This is what the cycles are about?
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happens, that's the life for yaa

My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

if the path is right, there are no martyrs

only common effort.
so YES hf



I guess that is because the path has not been right?

This is what the cycles are about?
 Quoting: Full Circle

in the long run i meant.
anyway any clues on what's wrong with that one?
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happens, that's the life for yaa

My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

if the path is right, there are no martyrs

only common effort.
so YES hf



I guess that is because the path has not been right?

This is what the cycles are about?

in the long run i meant.
anyway any clues on what's wrong with that one?
 Quoting: eee



With which one eee?
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One who lets go of what they once was to become something new... :)

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hf
eee

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happens, that's the life for yaa

My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

if the path is right, there are no martyrs

only common effort.
so YES hf



I guess that is because the path has not been right?

This is what the cycles are about?

in the long run i meant.
anyway any clues on what's wrong with that one?



With which one eee?
 Quoting: Full Circle

path, sorry for being unclear
i just wanted to know you'r call on things.
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hi eee hf
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happens, that's the life for yaa

My thoughts:


Would any one of you consider that the life in the ocean has decided, as a unit, to martyr themselves to further the cause of the Creator?

if the path is right, there are no martyrs

only common effort.
so YES hf



I guess that is because the path has not been right?

This is what the cycles are about?

in the long run i meant.
anyway any clues on what's wrong with that one?



With which one eee?

path, sorry for being unclear
i just wanted to know you'r call on things.
 Quoting: eee



I can't say. I am on my path, like everyone else. My path is not in harmony with the materialistic ME path. My path is the appreciation of the diversity of life and it's ability to express itself.

The absolute freedom that other creatures experience is what we are supposed to be living as well. We've taken ourselves far from that though.

That's my opinion.
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I can't say. I am on my path, like everyone else. My path is not in harmony with the materialistic ME path. My path is the appreciation of the diversity of life and it's ability to express itself.

The absolute freedom that other creatures experience is what we are supposed to be living as well. We've taken ourselves far from that though.

That's my opinion.
 Quoting: Full Circle

i agree, after a loong though
mainly couze of my english :(

thanks for an answer
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I can't say. I am on my path, like everyone else. My path is not in harmony with the materialistic ME path. My path is the appreciation of the diversity of life and it's ability to express itself.

The absolute freedom that other creatures experience is what we are supposed to be living as well. We've taken ourselves far from that though.

That's my opinion.

i agree, after a loong though
mainly couze of my english :(

thanks for an answer
 Quoting: eee


No worries. hugs

It's not about language. It's about feeling.
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No worries. hugs

It's not about language. It's about feeling.
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hf
thanks again, you made me realize something i omiss
soo easly, didn't even noticed it and that might been the case
no amount of hearts and flowers would be enough here

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To me, in the medical field, BP means "blood pressure" and water carries the blood pressure of earth.

Translated.. we need to monitor the BP!! Somewhere that got missed.



April 30, 2010
The following op-ed was written by the Rt. Hon. John N. Turner and appeared in the Toronto Star on April 30, 2010.

The story of water is the story of Canada.

A glance at any map clearly shows that both aboriginal and non-aboriginal peoples consistently located their dwellings, towns and cities along waterways.

This has included everything from fishing camps and small mills along creeks and streams, to our provincial and national capitals on major rivers and the Great Lakes. Water is the lifeblood of our country — of our communities, our commerce and our culture.

But it is also the lifeblood of nature. And if nature fails, we all fail.

That is why organizations such as WWF-Canada are working hard to understand how much fresh water nature needs, to ensure that this “environmental flow requirement” is not exceeded by human activities.

This is like the Earth’s blood pressure, and involves both the quantity and quality of water flowing through our life-support system. So whether it’s for agriculture, oil sands or urban use, we must respect nature’s seasonal water thresholds. We must limit ourselves in order to leave enough water for healthy ecosystems.


This concept of environmental flow requirements — what nature needs — should anchor water policy everywhere in Canada.

For example, in mighty northern rivers like the Mackenzie, where there is still a relative abundance of fresh wild-water, Canadians have an opportunity plan ahead to protect nature’s water needs.

Elsewhere, where we are closer to the line in terms of acceptable pressure on our water supply, such as the Athabasca, precious water must be conserved and carefully managed.

And for those rivers like the South Saskatchewan, where we have stepped over the line and already exceeded nature’s needs, unfortunately water must be restored — the critical, conflict-ridden and most expensive situation we should always try to avoid.

Most Canadians do not support exporting raw water from Canada. But in fact we do this in a virtual way every day by sending products that used water in their manufacture all over the world.

Every product has a “water footprint,” from lumber, to beer, to oil and gas to electricity. This means that Canada’s rivers and lakes are bearing the water footprint of goods produced here but consumed elsewhere.

For example, the gasoline powering a family car down a U.S. interstate highway may very well be the product of Canada’s oil sands, so that tankful took hundreds of litres of water out of the Athabasca River to produce.

But Canadians also import water, through the products we buy, such as sugar and cotton. The water footprint of your new cotton shirt is felt by rivers in India or China.

In this way, water is deeply embedded in the global economy. We are all part of a virtual worldwide trade in water, through the global flow of goods that require water to produce. And Canada’s waters are certainly carrying a heavy load.

That said, each of us having a water footprint is not a bad thing; it’s a necessary thing. But our water footprint needs to be better understood, individually and collectively. And where we can be more efficient or less polluting in our water use, we should be, always respecting what nature needs.

I first dipped a paddle into the deep, clear water of Ontario’s Temagami country at age seven, an experience that profoundly shaped the rest of my life.

Over the years, I have canoed most of our northern rivers with my wife, family and friends. Future generations should have that same opportunity, right across Canada.

John Turner is a former prime minister of Canada and a member of the board, now honourary director, of WWF-Canada.

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