WTF? BP reportedly threatens to fire cleanup workers for using their own protective gear!!!

Tell whoever gave you that order to come here and tell me in person.
Those fisherman would like to have a little talk out on their boat in the middle of the Petrol Gulf.

better to look good than feel good, right BP?

More Dirty Details From My BP Mole
Wed Jun. 16, 2010 3:02 AM PDT

You know the story: Boy calls girl, girl goes to pick up boy, boy and girl go sit on a beautiful beachside deck to enjoy the night breeze and listen to the waves crash as he tells her a bunch of terrible things that are going on at an oil-spill cleanup site. Yes, I had a date with Elmer, my mole inside BP's cleanup operation, and he painted a grim picture of the conditions for both workers and wildlife at Louisiana's Elmer's Island Wildlife Refuge.

First, the workers: The men on Elmer's Island don't wear respirators since BP and OSHA have thrown precaution to the wind and deemed them unnecessary. But the only type of air-monitoring equipment Elmer's ever seen on the island are little multigas meters that are not up to the job: They're designed for indoor use, clog easily, and only measure limited types of pollutants. And despite the known dangers of dispersants and the toxic chemicals in crude (I can attest that contact with the stuff washing up on the beach can burn), workers aren't even wearing protective Tyvek suits anymore. Of course, there are medics on hand to treat anyone who gets hurt or sick. Unfortunately, any worker who asks for a medic's help is automatically drug tested, which, for some, can be a powerful incentive to not report injuries. (Not that keeping a cleanup job necessarily equals getting paid: Elmer says the contractors continue to lose workers' paychecks, a problem he told me about the last time we talked and that has since been confirmed by the local papers.)

Cleanup workers on these South Louisiana beaches aren't the only ones who could use more protections. What Elmer told me echoed the reports that BP isn't exactly doing everything in its power to keep track of the toll the spill is taking on wildlife. In nearby Port Fourchon, where he has also worked, there are markers to denote wildlife nesting areas, but they aren't clearly labeled and no one knows what they mean, so workers drive and trample over sensitive habitats. One day last week, Elmer and his coworkers came upon eight oiled pelicans, but though they called the official number to report their findings, no one had come to collect the birds by the time his shift ended many hours later. (A representative from the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries has yet to respond to my request for comment.) Workers on Elmer's have not been instructed to report dead animals for collection or autopsy. Elmer said he'd recently come upon a dead crab and, knowing no one was going to come to examine it, decided to slice it open himself. Black oil poured out....(cont.)

[link to motherjones.com]

BP keeps cleanup workers getting sick from pollutants out of its records, claims only two such incidents.

Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

BP attempted to deny and conceal links of its oil spill to illnesses, after initial reports of oil cleanup workers who were getting sick due to extended exposure to oil and dispersants. Fishermen have complained of “severe headaches, dizziness, nausea and difficulty breathing” after working to clean up the spill, and one said BP did not provide protective equipment. But BP CEO Tony Hayward brushed off illness concerns, suggesting “food poisoning” might have been the culprit. Now, McClatchy reports on a wide disparity in government and BP records on illness complaints:

Although Louisiana state records indicate that at least 74 oil spill workers have complained of becoming sick after exposure to pollutants, BP’s own official recordkeeping notes just two such incidents.

BP reported a wide range of worker injuries in the period from April 22 to June 10 , from the minor — a sprained ankle, a pinched finger and a cat bite — to the more serious — three instances of workers being struck by lightning and one worker who lost part of a finger.

The gap between the state data and BP’s… raises questions about whether the federal government can rely on BP to determine whether conditions remain safe for the more than 27,000 workers now engaged in cleaning up the worst oil spill in the nation’s history....cont.)

[link to thinkprogress.org]

Cleanup Crews Work With Tenuous Safety Net

Updated 8:30 AM EDT, Wed, Jun 16, 2010

An army of 24,000 temporary workers have swarmed the Gulf Coast to help clean up the mess from the massive BP oil spill. But it is far from clear who is responsible for ensuring the safety and long-term health of those doing the critical and often dangerous grunt work.
Already workers have been injured, some hospitalized.
Workers are covered by a patchwork of federal, state and local agencies and regulations. The government only last week announced how worker safety efforts in the Gulf would be coordinated, more than 50 days after the rig explosion.
Labor and environmental advocates say worker safety in the Gulf is precarious.

The recipe for a safety disaster includes:

A massive toxic spill.
The rapid deployment of a vast work force over four states.
Limited government resources.
BP’s dismal safety record.
Hot temperatures that make wearing heavy protective gear extremely uncomfortable.
A large number of non-English speaking workers involved in the effort.
The desire among many workers sidelined by the disaster to do any work they can.

Based on past disasters, workers could become tangled in years of litigation if they suffer any injuries or other ill health effects while cleaning up the Gulf region.
“We’ve been through this before,” said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., referring to workers who helped clean up the World Trade Center site after the 9/11 attacks.
Nadler said the government told workers at the site that they, too, were safe, but today “thousands of people are sick or dying.”....(cont.)

[link to www.nbcwashington.com]

Last Edited by Living on the edge on 06/17/2010 02:00 AM

ha ha, they're killing you right in front of your faces and you can't do shit about it.

That's a blast from the past. Billy Crystal on SNL? How fitting though.

they want these people sick and dying duh

sure they getting PAID now, but is it worth losing your lungs for it in the long run?

i know there was a thread about bacteria earlier but... oil scum is a great breeding ground for bacteria. there are rules about changing oil in machine shop machines because of it. the flourescent lighting, the oil, the metals (elements), it's a breeding ground. Add to that hot temperatures and real sunlight... you get the picture.

No secrets here.. Just OSHA stuff. been around it, shops that is, oils that is. had to quit that scene. my skin can't handle it.

If I were one of those fishermen, I'd show them my self supplied gun.

Anyone who gives an order like that deserves to be executed. It's obvious that the policy is designed to avoid photo opportunites rather than to protect the workers from obvious risks of permanent illness.

So where is OSHA and EPA? Why is BP giving the orders? Unless this really is a death-plot.

They do not want any publicity demonstrating the real dangers by all the fishermen wearing hazmat type gear...it will ruin tourism...


The truth-

Personally if I were a fishermen...I would understand it is over for a long time there...but if one wants to clean up-screw BP-I would not wait for their permission to clean and I would of course not get my wages replaced by them...All the more latitude it gives me to do what needs to be done


Like federal monies...once a state takes that they are on the hook...since all fed taxes go from state to feds...and then state has to jump through hoops to get funding-via abiding to conditions the feds set up...


The states impacted by this should not be hindered in doing what needs to be done...

It is a duty...to the people of this country, to future generations, to our stewardship of the earth...a duty to throw off tyrants if they obstruct us from doing what needs to be done.

BP is no one to me...I rarely drive...but I have been to the Gulf, I have bought food from the Gulf, I know many who live near the Gulf or on it...many leaving as well...many of them rode bicycles more than drove...but they are still paying the price for bp

to he11 with BP-let them return, home, in he11

I have been wondering this.

Why in the world is BP still running the show?

OSHA guidelines are probably being enforced plus some. check the OSHA website. Newly published document about safety in cleaning up oil spills. Haven't read it myself.

The problem isn't the protection or the regulatory agencies or even BP. the problem is the volume of oil and toxins. this ain't your typical scenario. we left that world weeks ago in my opinion. I'm not an expert, just an observer.

The Windsor Bloodline owns this country under the virginia corporation. The queen is not amused when her slaves demand action for her to get her act together with BP.

All the presidents and congress are put in power to serve the NWO of which the Rothschilds actually owns BP. Our reprsentatives serve them and not the people. Obama serves the NWO as well as past presidents and adminstrations. People have freedom is all an illusion which will pretty soon be much more evident to people in this country.

The Bloodlines rule is at hand. You will notice they will ignore their slaves more and more. It will be so blatant that the slaves will be very angry and try to revolt. They will swat you like flies. They hate humans with a passion.

If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.
Prince Phillip quote

its a pr game. they dont want us to see a bunch of dudes running around in hazmat suits so we dont think its 'not safe'.

MEMO

IT MUST NOT LOOK TOXIC
NO MASKS NO HAZMATS
WEAR NORMAL CLOTHING SMILE
T SHIRTS JEANS THAT KIND OF THING........

END MEMO

ya, we get it. shocking.

If I were one of the Fishermen now doing Cleanup -

Especially with my own Boat, I would continue using a

Respirator for my own safety !!!

I would advise as many others to do the SAME !!!

I would Document as best I could if BP fired me for

continuing to wear a respirator.

I would get together with Others that were Fired and

get a Class Action Suit against BP.

And Expedite Independent Air Quality Monitoring ASAP!!!

Independent Monitoring of Air Quality is the KEY.

Need a Court Order to do such ASAP!!!

I've Not a Litigant GUY - Never sued anybody for Anything.

I suspect that Court Orders is the ONLY way to get BP

going down the Correct Path.

Daniel
:bushhitler:

Last Edited by Daniel on 06/17/2010 03:46 AM

Synonyms: Petroleum Oil, Crude
Product Description: A highly complex mixture of hydrocarbons, containing variable amounts of impurities, such as oxygen, nitrogen, sulfur, and metals, such as iron, copper, nickel, and vanadium.

Benzene
71-43-2
Prevent skin contact
Respirator filter types 8 hr: PVA, PE/EVAL, Barricade, CPF3, Responder, Tychem

CRUDE OIL MAY CONTAIN HYDROGEN SULFIDE. NIOSH approved respiratory protection should be used when handling crude of high or unknown hydrogen sulfide content and to reduce airborne concentrations to allowable occupational exposure levels.

Carcinogenicity: NTP IARC Monographs OSHA Regulated
Crude Oil No No No
Benzene Yes Yes Yes
Potential Health Effects From Overexposure
Acute Effects
Eyes: Sight to moderate eye irritation.
Skin: Moderately irritating; causes redness, drying of skin.
Inhalation: Will cause narcosis and/or chemical pneumonitis. High concentrations of hydrogen sulfide can cause headache, dizziness, unconsciousness and/or death.
Ingestion: Extremely irritating to throat and stomach. Causes excitation, loss of consciousness, convulsion, cyanosis, congestion and capillary hemorrhaging of the lung and internal organs.
Chronic Effects
Skin irritation. The long-term, repeated application of crude to the skin of laboratory mice (without washing between applications) resulted in a statistically significant increase in the incidence of skin tumors. Crude oil contains benzene, which can cause degeneration in blood forming organs leading to anemia which may further degrade to leukemia.
Additional Medical and Toxicological Information
May aggravate pre-existing dermatitis. May cause blood-forming disorders, or lead to kidney or liver dysfunction. Contact with full strength or dilute formulations of this product or exposure above and below exposure limits may aggravate pre-existing dermatitis or respiratory disorders in certain individuals. This product contains benzene, which can cause degeneration in blood forming organs leading to anemia which may further degrade to leukemia.

[link to www.cdc.gov]
[link to www.elpaso.com]


Somebody get those guys a lawyer!! Any state civil lawsuit filed in LA on a BP issue has a very very very high chance of success. 12 citizens from LA will decide the verdict. Do ya think thats a bad thing right now given the situation?

The official approved policy of this government/corporations appears to be: Use the worker/soldier to get the job done and discard them once the event is no longer in the limelight.

We've watched this policy in action at the VA for years. We've watched this policy with the workers that cleaned up the Exxon Valdez and the 9/11 false-flag attack site.

At what point are we going to start putting people and profits in the correct priority? Where is OSHA? Where's that fuckup Soetoro?

Personally, I think we should force congress to hold legislative session on a Louisiana beach. Hey, it's safe. Right?

^^THIS^^

sick a those cunts...sorry but thats what they are

''The Windsor Bloodline owns this country under the virginia corporation. The queen is not amused when her slaves demand action for her to get her act together with BP.''

Why is a British based multinational
calling the shots on US soil?

Because BP owns the politicians.

This is the crux of the problem,
and the problem will continue
till we change that.

We "little people"
need our own lobbyists.

sorry got a bit button happy re above post.

saxe-coberg you mean?
bp is a multinational,that the over paid tourist atraction,can do nothing about.

blah blah blah blah

say something positive or shut the f**k up.

BP thinks its safe to work w/o respirators eh? and this coming from a company that thought it was safe to use cheaper well casing... lovely...