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If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded

 
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For the zillionth time, evolution never states monkeys turn into humans.
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Yes, it does.

Good grief, you need to go rent Carl Sagan's Cosmos series. He says it OVER AND OVER and even has an animation that shows the transformation of all creation from a single atom.
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
For the zillionth time, evolution never states monkeys turn into humans.


Yes, it does.

Good grief, you need to go rent Carl Sagan's Cosmos series. He says it OVER AND OVER and even has an animation that shows the transformation of all creation from a single atom.
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How about I will never use Carl Sagan as a source for anything, who in their right mind would?

Finally Carl Sagan IS NOT DARWIN!

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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
For the zillionth time, evolution never states monkeys turn into humans.


Yes, it does.

Good grief, you need to go rent Carl Sagan's Cosmos series. He says it OVER AND OVER and even has an animation that shows the transformation of all creation from a single atom.

How about I will never use Carl Sagan as a source for anything, who in their right mind would?

Finally Carl Sagan IS NOT DARWIN!

 Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja


Carl Sagan and every other atheist scientist who believes in evolution bases the ENTIRETY of their thought on Malthus, who Darwin stole all his dipshit ideas from.
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
You know, I have a B.S. in Biology. But, I'd be willing to bet that you have never read a single book about the SCIENCE of Creation.


Homework reading assignments for NeoFist:

Evolution Hoax Exposed by A.N. Field

[link to www.amazon.com]

Or, if you prefer something less complicated....

Someone is Making a Monkey Out of You by Patrick Marks

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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
For the zillionth time, evolution never states monkeys turn into humans.


Yes, it does.

Good grief, you need to go rent Carl Sagan's Cosmos series. He says it OVER AND OVER and even has an animation that shows the transformation of all creation from a single atom.

How about I will never use Carl Sagan as a source for anything, who in their right mind would?

Finally Carl Sagan IS NOT DARWIN!



Carl Sagan and every other atheist scientist who believes in evolution bases the ENTIRETY of their thought on Malthus, who Darwin stole all his dipshit ideas from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 764206

Again, I would never use Carl Sagan as a source, NEVER.

Secondly, do you have an real evidence that Darwin stole all of his "dipshit" ideas from Malthus?

Finally, it is clear, to ANYONE who is looking with even a slightly open mind, better yet, a person who is really looking, that Darwin's OBSERVATIONS were not "dipshit" in the least and they were in FACT apt and accurate.
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Why are the most uneducated people always the most willing to believe in a magic ghost that created everything with a click of it's fingers?
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Yet you willingly believe what some scientist tells you.

We don't even have the same number of chromosomes as an ape and you want to believe we evolved from them.


Chromosome 2 in humans is actually 2 chromosomes that have fused to become one. The only way this could happen is if there is a lack if diverse DNA.

This means that the DNA from one ape to the next was so close together that the Chromosomes fused because there was no difference.

Why would something like that happen? You tell me?

So yes you can spew shit all you want to. But you don't know shit about the subject. You might as well say you believe Obama was legally elected.
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
You know, I have a B.S. in Biology. But, I'd be willing to bet that you have never read a single book about the SCIENCE of Creation.


Homework reading assignments for NeoFist:

Evolution Hoax Exposed by A.N. Field

[link to www.amazon.com]

Or, if you prefer something less complicated....

Someone is Making a Monkey Out of You by Patrick Marks

[link to www.amazon.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 764206

I seriously doubt you have a B.S. in Biology.

Secondly, I believe God created the "heavens and the earth".

Finally, I don't need science to tell me what I know to be true. God is our Father, He is our Creator.
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
Why are the most uneducated people always the most willing to believe in a magic ghost that created everything with a click of it's fingers?



Yet you willingly believe what some scientist tells you.

We don't even have the same number of chromosomes as an ape and you want to believe we evolved from them.


Chromosome 2 in humans is actually 2 chromosomes that have fused to become one. The only way this could happen is if there is a lack if diverse DNA.

This means that the DNA from one ape to the next was so close together that the Chromosomes fused because there was no difference.

Why would something like that happen? You tell me?

So yes you can spew shit all you want to. But you don't know shit about the subject. You might as well say you believe Obama was legally elected.
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WE DIDN'T EVOLVE FROM APES!

Darwin never said that, jeez, you people drive me nuts.
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I seriously doubt you have a B.S. in Biology.

Secondly, I believe God created the "heavens and the earth".

Finally, I don't need science to tell me what I know to be true. God is our Father, He is our Creator.
 Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja



Sorry to disappoint you, but there are many, many Christian "scientists" out there in the world besides me, who know the lie that evolution is.

How can you possibly acknowledge God as Creator while simultaneously REJECTING His method of Creation? Are you daft? Do you not believe the Bible? Or, do you just make up your beliefs on your own as you go?
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
I seriously doubt you have a B.S. in Biology.

Secondly, I believe God created the "heavens and the earth".

Finally, I don't need science to tell me what I know to be true. God is our Father, He is our Creator.



Sorry to disappoint you, but there are many, many Christian "scientists" out there in the world besides me, who know the lie that evolution is.

How can you possibly acknowledge God as Creator while simultaneously REJECTING His method of Creation? Are you daft? Do you not believe the Bible? Or, do you just make up your beliefs on your own as you go?
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I am disappointed, very disappointed. That is nothing new however.

How do Creation and Evolution conflict each other?

"Are you daft?" bring on the insults aye?

Of course I believe in the Bible, I read it, study on it and use as a reference for my prayers and meditation. Do you?
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You know, I have a B.S. in Biology.
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From what school did you get this B.S in Biology?

Do you remember any of your professor for you science requirement? If so, please list them.

How long ago did you get this B.S.? Do you work in a profession where you use it everyday?
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Evolution is just how we changed from the beginning. Isn't it possible that God created the earth and all the creatures on with the ability to adapt to their environment and pass those changes to their offspring?
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I had to dig back into the thread to see what you believed.

Ok, so we really DO have to go back to the beginning for you now, don't we?

Do you realize you don't even UNDERSTAND the proper definition of the word EVOLUTION? The theory of EVOLUTION (or, as it sometimes called, "Macro-evolution") is the belief that ALL KINDS of life originated from a single organism and that EACH KIND of creature came from one before it and CHANGED into ANOTHER KIND.

Evolution does NOT have anything to do with what you are referring to .... ADAPTATION, or the belief that a SINGLE KIND might change some of its characteristics within its KIND.

Whatever your college studies or degree, it certainly was not in Biology or any of the earth sciences, as displayed by your lack of knowledge.
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Evolution is just how we changed from the beginning. Isn't it possible that God created the earth and all the creatures on with the ability to adapt to their environment and pass those changes to their offspring?


I had to dig back into the thread to see what you believed.

Ok, so we really DO have to go back to the beginning for you now, don't we?

Do you realize you don't even UNDERSTAND the proper definition of the word EVOLUTION? The theory of EVOLUTION (or, as it sometimes called, "Macro-evolution") is the belief that ALL KINDS of life originated from a single organism and that EACH KIND of creature came from one before it and CHANGED into ANOTHER KIND.

Evolution does NOT have anything to do with what you are referring to .... ADAPTATION, or the belief that a SINGLE KIND might change some of its characteristics within its KIND.

Whatever your college studies or degree, it certainly was not in Biology or any of the earth sciences, as displayed by your lack of knowledge.
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The proper definition according to who? You? Find another source please.

Evolution does not say other species come from other species, it says they share common ancestry, you keep missing that huge, very important point.
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You know, I have a B.S. in Biology.

From what school did you get this B.S in Biology?

Do you remember any of your professor for you science requirement? If so, please list them.

How long ago did you get this B.S.? Do you work in a profession where you use it everyday?
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NMSU - 1992. No longer use my degree, thankfully. Dr. Botsford was one of my favorite professors. He used to play the guitar and make up songs for us. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, moran.

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Whatever your college studies or degree, it certainly was not in Biology or any of the earth sciences, as displayed by your lack of knowledge.

The proper definition according to who? You? Find another source please.

Evolution does not say other species come from other species, it says they share common ancestry, you keep missing that huge, very important point.
 Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja


Seriously, dude...if you don't even understand the definition of evolution, there is no way to progress in this conversation.

And if you don't believe the Bible, then I don't know HOW you came up with the idea that God's Creation was in need of (or even capable of) CHANGE. God SAYS it was PERFECT, and it remained so until the Fall. I suppose this means that you also do not believe in the Great Flood, nor understand what fossils are, so we are pretyy much done here.
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Why are the most uneducated people always the most willing to believe in a magic ghost that created everything with a click of it's fingers?


If life crawled out of the ocean, then why don't we see new creatures coming out of the water every day?


Evolution works over millions of years. Are you millions of years old? I doubt it. You cannot watch complex animal evolution in real time. You can, however, observe microbial evolution in the lab.
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Neither can anyone else. This includes scientist that are guessing at what happened over millions of years. They do not know this...
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
Carl Sagan and every other atheist scientist who believes in evolution bases the ENTIRETY of their thought on Malthus, who Darwin stole all his dipshit ideas from.
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Show me where Malthus explains reverse transcriptase RNA. Heck, I'd be happy if you could just show that Malthus understood Endogenous Retro-Viruses.
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You know, I have a B.S. in Biology. But, I'd be willing to bet that you have never read a single book about the SCIENCE of Creation.


Homework reading assignments for NeoFist:

Evolution Hoax Exposed by A.N. Field

[link to www.amazon.com]

Or, if you prefer something less complicated....

Someone is Making a Monkey Out of You by Patrick Marks

[link to www.amazon.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 764206



Does reading all of the articles hosted by the ICR's website count? How about abstracts from the major published works by outspoken creationists?

But this is bullshit. Your group chastises the over-simplified picture of the modern evolutionary synthesis that is presented in grade school textbooks. And you want to stand that up against the best work direct from the mouths of creationists?

No, why don't we do a fair comparison; just as most people encounter evolutionary theory in class, they encounter creationism through the videos and popular articles made by the Discovery Institute and others for the lay audience.

But I guess I have to, grudgingly, concede the impossibility of a true comparison. The heirs of Darwin have papers in Nature. There isn't a comparable literature from the Creationists. The majority of their writing is popular, designed not to explore a theory but to convince a non-specialist audience.

Which you know, if you actually have the degree you claim.
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
I had to dig back into the thread to see what you believed.

Ok, so we really DO have to go back to the beginning for you now, don't we?

Do you realize you don't even UNDERSTAND the proper definition of the word EVOLUTION? The theory of EVOLUTION (or, as it sometimes called, "Macro-evolution") is the belief that ALL KINDS of life originated from a single organism and that EACH KIND of creature came from one before it and CHANGED into ANOTHER KIND.

Evolution does NOT have anything to do with what you are referring to .... ADAPTATION, or the belief that a SINGLE KIND might change some of its characteristics within its KIND.

Whatever your college studies or degree, it certainly was not in Biology or any of the earth sciences, as displayed by your lack of knowledge.
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Cripes, no. Evolution is radiation; it is "divergence with heredity". Common Descent is not required. The modern synthesis allows the possibility of multiple origins for life, as well as communication of genetic material. Heck, as I sit here and write, that action is only possible because an UNRELATED SPECIES swam into my cells at some point in the distant past, and has become stripped of almost everything that gives it a unique identity except for its unique genetic code and certain peculiarities of its biochemistry.

"Changed from another kind" may be correct, but it isn't ordinary phrasing. It is, in fact, the kind of bullshit phrasing creationists use to try to make fun of their perceived opponent. "Change" is what makes a crocoduck from a dinosaur. Out here in the real world, a population experiences a shift in allele frequencies.

Oh, yeah, and "kind" is also a cdesign proponetist buzzword. It isn't a concept that integrates well with modern taxonomy.

This is crap science. Go back to the real textbooks and leave the god-botherers alone for a while. You might be surprised at what you find.
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Why are the most uneducated people always the most willing to believe in a magic ghost that created everything with a click of it's fingers?
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if beings evolved it would be an ongoing, continuous process to this day and we would see these creatures in all stages of the so called metemorphisis at ALL TIMES.

every amoeba would be starting anew in it's chain of progression towards the next stage of its so called evolution, it wouldn't just have happened once and then STOPPED.

common sense is bred out of us and the brainwashed public is dumbed down to the point of sleepwalkers.

magic as you call it is just supernatural aka VERY natural, totally natural, occurrences as yet unmapped scientifically hence not yet understood.

duh
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>>>>if beings evolved it would be an ongoing, continuous process to this day and we would see these creatures in all stages of the so called metemorphisis at ALL TIMES.<<<<

It is. We do.
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Why is it that some of the most highly educated people come up with some of the dumbest ideas and then try to force people with common sense to believe them.
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Because even though they MAY be intelligent, there is one thing they lack....

WISDOM

And unlike intelligence, wisdom cannot be found in books, schools, etc. Nor does it come with a Masters or PHD.

So the question is, how does one become wise? Where does wisdom, insight, truth, and understanding come from?
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
You know, I have a B.S. in Biology. But, I'd be willing to bet that you have never read a single book about the SCIENCE of Creation.


Homework reading assignments for NeoFist:

Evolution Hoax Exposed by A.N. Field

[link to www.amazon.com]

Or, if you prefer something less complicated....

Someone is Making a Monkey Out of You by Patrick Marks

[link to www.amazon.com]
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Free:
[link to www.creationism.org]
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
You know, I have a B.S. in Biology.

From what school did you get this B.S in Biology?

Do you remember any of your professor for you science requirement? If so, please list them.

How long ago did you get this B.S.? Do you work in a profession where you use it everyday?
 Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja

I don't care about your degree or anyone elses. I just want to see the evidence. Just because you've been indoctrinated by the antichrist NWO dies not make evolution true.

The latest claim man came from a chimp was 'Lucy'.
Another debunked evolutionist fraud:
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We have obsered no evolution in over a century of obseving the micro-organisms.
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
Why is it that some of the most highly educated people come up with some of the dumbest ideas and then try to force people with common sense to believe them.
Because even though they MAY be intelligent, there is one thing they lack....

WISDOM

And unlike intelligence, wisdom cannot be found in books, schools, etc. Nor does it come with a Masters or PHD.

So the question is, how does one become wise? Where does wisdom, insight, truth, and understanding come from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035872


THIS.

The most intelligent people are the most easily misled because of two things: PRIDE and lack of wisdom.

They pride THEMSELVES in the knowledge from MAN, rather than God. The have, in effect, put man in the place of God.

Wisdom comes from fear of the Lord.

"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Fools despise wisdom and instruction." Proverbs 1:7/DRV
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Homework reading assignments for NeoFist:

Evolution Hoax Exposed by A.N. Field

[link to www.amazon.com]

Or, if you prefer something less complicated....

Someone is Making a Monkey Out of You by Patrick Marks

[link to www.amazon.com]


Free:
[link to www.creationism.org]
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That looks really interesting! Thanks!
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But this is bullshit. Your group chastises the over-simplified picture of the modern evolutionary synthesis that is presented in grade school textbooks. And you want to stand that up against the best work direct from the mouths of creationists?

No, why don't we do a fair comparison; just as most people encounter evolutionary theory in class, they encounter creationism through the videos and popular articles made by the Discovery Institute and others for the lay audience.

But I guess I have to, grudgingly, concede the impossibility of a true comparison. The heirs of Darwin have papers in Nature. There isn't a comparable literature from the Creationists. The majority of their writing is popular, designed not to explore a theory but to convince a non-specialist audience.

Which you know, if you actually have the degree you claim.
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FFS, you are completely dishonest.

The creationist scientists publish plenty of work, but they are persecuted and suppressed more than any other group in academia. Didn't you ever see Ben Stein's documentary, "Expelled?"

You cannot deny the Illuminst agenda in evolution. The Illuminists seek one goal, and one goal ONLY - the removal of God. The usurpation of God. Evoultion is a KEY plank in their agenda.
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kettle calling the pot black..

go away.
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Why are the most uneducated people always the most willing to believe in a magic ghost that created everything with a click of it's fingers?


If life crawled out of the ocean, then why don't we see new creatures coming out of the water every day?
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because evolution takes millions of years, it doesn't happen overnight. Come on that's an easy one, though typical in a culture that wants everything NOW and doesn't remember what happened a year ago, much less 50 years ago.
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Re: If you can't grasp the simple law of evolution..you are retarded
We don't even have the same number of chromosomes as an ape and you want to believe we evolved from them.


Chromosome 2 in humans is actually 2 chromosomes that have fused to become one. The only way this could happen is if there is a lack if diverse DNA.

This means that the DNA from one ape to the next was so close together that the Chromosomes fused because there was no difference.

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That does not follow. Fusion, transposition, trisomy, all occur without regard to the differences between the chromosomes. The effects range from novel expression of new proteins to, well, basically none at all. Most of the important genes have multiple copies and the body can live with a few missing ones.





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