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Cosmos5491
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Underwater UFO bases in Antarctica, ufo's on the date the Chinese Briefcases were opened > 13th Oct 2010 !!!, Gulf of Aden, 7/11, etc ....

Well, MzK, you ought to LOVE this. Might explain all the BESERK activity at the South Pole.


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Yeh...Antarctica is a very sensative topic as far as TPTB are concerned...almost nothing gets reported out of there, at least nothing of substance, and particularly not recently.
We supposedly have our own fleet of UFOs based out of there, there are also joint alien/human UFO projects, and presumably pure alien craft coming in either physically of inter-dimensionally. Some have suggested there is an alien reception centre down there somewhere.
There is a lot of astronomy going on down there as well, in fact every major NWO player has/or shares facilities at the south pole.
I have RV'd the place a time or two, although not recently...they seem to have grayed out the place.
It seems to me there has been a big distraction concerning a new component of energy in the ribbon that has not been there in previous orbits through this field or similar planet changing fields. I believe this new energy was detected long before we began to feel the effects of these higher vibrational energies in this solar system, but TPTB have had little idea of how this new energy component would impact our system until it began to show up.
Imo this thread has shown some of these effects at work.
There seems to be much research on neutrinos at the South Pole and for obvious reasons, and this research is open and within the radar. They are worried.
I have also come to the conclusion TPTB are worried about something else to do with astronomy, and it is not a dark star with accompanying planets, but a real star, as yet unlit, in the unfolding knot at the centre of the ribbon we are travelling through.
It is my understanding that a star can join a solar system to turn that system from a single star system to a binary, or further stars captured to make up multiple star systems.
I don't believe that the current generation of such stars accrete material until such time as nuclear processes begin.
I think stars are made full size and unlit, only beginning the ignition processes when entering a magnetic field such as that contained within solar systems. Solar systems like ours seem to be the cells of a galaxy like our Milky Way...they are everywhere. Even mainstream astronomers have noticed that as soon as stars ignite, they begin to migrate.
So, does the ribbon have the gift of another star with our magnetic signature on it? Mmmm well maybe. If it does I would not expect this system to be picking it up imminently, rather more likely after the Earth has been through its changes and settled down again.
If this system were to become a binary, then the combination of light from the two stars would open up a whole load of new things for those dwelling on the Earth at the time, it would also produce new harmonic orbits for the planets...orbits further from the centre.
I have been looking into getting some hard facts to back up this possibility, and I'm currently looking into neutral atom re-activation in the process of plasma production to see if the theory is at least possible.
I can prove non of this as yet...its just been a persistant thought at the back of my mind for a long time, and periodically I have another look into it...highly unscientific I'm afraid.
I do have some pertinant info gathered and am working on more...so if there is interest in this, I may post what I have at a later date.
Sorry if this is too far off topic.
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Yeh...Antarctica is a very sensative topic as far as TPTB are concerned...almost nothing gets reported out of there, at least nothing of substance, and particularly not recently.
We supposedly have our own fleet of UFOs based out of there, there are also joint alien/human UFO projects, and presumably pure alien craft coming in either physically of inter-dimensionally. Some have suggested there is an alien reception centre down there somewhere.
There is a lot of astronomy going on down there as well, in fact every major NWO player has/or shares facilities at the south pole.
I have RV'd the place a time or two, although not recently...they seem to have grayed out the place.
It seems to me there has been a big distraction concerning a new component of energy in the ribbon that has not been there in previous orbits through this field or similar planet changing fields. I believe this new energy was detected long before we began to feel the effects of these higher vibrational energies in this solar system, but TPTB have had little idea of how this new energy component would impact our system until it began to show up.
Imo this thread has shown some of these effects at work.
There seems to be much research on neutrinos at the South Pole and for obvious reasons, and this research is open and within the radar. They are worried.
I have also come to the conclusion TPTB are worried about something else to do with astronomy, and it is not a dark star with accompanying planets, but a real star, as yet unlit, in the unfolding knot at the centre of the ribbon we are travelling through.
It is my understanding that a star can join a solar system to turn that system from a single star system to a binary, or further stars captured to make up multiple star systems.
I don't believe that the current generation of such stars accrete material until such time as nuclear processes begin.
I think stars are made full size and unlit, only beginning the ignition processes when entering a magnetic field such as that contained within solar systems. Solar systems like ours seem to be the cells of a galaxy like our Milky Way...they are everywhere. Even mainstream astronomers have noticed that as soon as stars ignite, they begin to migrate.
So, does the ribbon have the gift of another star with our magnetic signature on it? Mmmm well maybe. If it does I would not expect this system to be picking it up imminently, rather more likely after the Earth has been through its changes and settled down again.
If this system were to become a binary, then the combination of light from the two stars would open up a whole load of new things for those dwelling on the Earth at the time, it would also produce new harmonic orbits for the planets...orbits further from the centre.
I have been looking into getting some hard facts to back up this possibility, and I'm currently looking into neutral atom re-activation in the process of plasma production to see if the theory is at least possible.
I can prove non of this as yet...its just been a persistant thought at the back of my mind for a long time, and periodically I have another look into it...highly unscientific I'm afraid.
I do have some pertinant info gathered and am working on more...so if there is interest in this, I may post what I have at a later date.
Sorry if this is too far off topic.
 Quoting: Cosmos5491 6503984


Hello Cosmos,
I can say that I am totally in agreement on the first part of your post !

The second part is fantastic INTERRESTING !!!
I do feel there might indeed be some true-sparks in your thoughts ! Wow .... Never looked at it that way, by in a way it makes sence to me.

'Stars' - 'Suns' that only IGNITE in certain conditions.

We already are a Binary System, but this would make it a Triplet-system ... hmmmzzzz....
Yes there must be something DIFFERENT this time in the cycle of the binary star, and that could indeed be a 'Sunprise' in the Ribbon, ... it would fit with the ending of the Maya calendar, and even with more things.

It might be that the 2012-Galactic center-Allignment has a role in this new IGNITION, lasering a beam of focused energy from its center through multiple systems and ours towards this New-Star in the Ribbon ... So it might not be JUPITER-Ignition [what I never believed], but this hide-away star's ignition .. hmmmmm..... Very interresting.
Yes it would shift the balances between the planets.
That reminds me of the tales from the time that Venus shifted place, and Mars-Earth and Maldek (the destroyed planet > now the hammered belt) ... SOMETHING MADE this happen, something pushed Earth away and with that pushing Mars and Maldeck outside the Goldylocks-zone (habitable zone). Thats also why Mars had to be abandonent on the surface and the oceans dried up when the athmosphere/ionosphere was affected. Something crashed with Maldeck and destroyed it, or the arive of this 'something' created a chainreaction on Maldeck's surface in their [that civilisation's] technology, leading to the destruction and explosion ....
This is mega interresting !!!


Yes its good to look at the micro in order to get an understanding of the macro !!!
And when it ties up with Myths then the circle is completed .. awsome !
Lets do this !


Imo, this is not at all off-topic. And I think that there are more lurkers and Bezerkers who would like to hear more of your ponderings and thoughts :D
So PLEASE let them come !


flowers


Tnx Cosmos !!!
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You're very welcome...nice flowers thanx.
I'll get some links I have on this subject up together and post them soon so you can see my thinking on this, and take it from there.
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bump
For all of krispy's and others' hard work, research and dedication to finding the truth.

You rock krispy!
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In the meantime...

Remember Hubble's pics of the Eagle Nebula, and the knots or globules of denser gas, called EGGs ("Evaporating Gaseous Globules")
Apparently, these are star forming regions.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This is thought to be what we are heading for...

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Here is an unfolding knot, this time consisting of neutral atoms. Can stars be made of neutral atoms? Could these atoms be polarised when hitting our solar system's magnetic fields, thus initiating plasma production? Well, this is a divided subject, but some links I've found are researching this possibility.
Work and family commitments have kept me from researching this properly at the moment, but the holidays are coming, so should have a bit more time to get down to study.
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HI Cosmos,

I recieved a mail from TutuWuwu that she loved your input !!! And was looking foreward to read more.

I will ask her to copy it to the thread here,
you will like what she said :D


xx
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In the meantime...

Remember Hubble's pics of the Eagle Nebula, and the knots or globules of denser gas, called EGGs ("Evaporating Gaseous Globules")
Apparently, these are star forming regions.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This is thought to be what we are heading for...

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Here is an unfolding knot, this time consisting of neutral atoms. Can stars be made of neutral atoms? Could these atoms be polarised when hitting our solar system's magnetic fields, thus initiating plasma production? Well, this is a divided subject, but some links I've found are researching this possibility.
Work and family commitments have kept me from researching this properly at the moment, but the holidays are coming, so should have a bit more time to get down to study.
 Quoting: Cosmos5491 6527620



I dont know if you remember SQUIDDY posting here and talking to us in the VC-room a few months ago,
anyways,
she talked also about EGGS ...
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hi


Gulf Coast Task Force Releases Final Ecosystem Restoration Strategy on December 5, 2011

The Task Force delivered the final strategy on Friday, Dec. 2 to President Barack Obama, who established the Task Force by executive order to continue the Administration’s ongoing commitment to the Gulf region.


[link to www.epa.gov]

Hopefully the start the action of actual cleanup right away!
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Interresting article :


Scientists describe new species of crab that "farms" methane vents
December 3, 2011

A species of crab found a thousand feet below the surface of the Pacific Ocean near Costa Rica lives off the bacteria on its claws – bacteria that it fertilizes by waving them in methane and sulfide released from the seafloor.



Read more here :
[link to www.physorg.com]
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HI Cosmos,

I recieved a mail from TutuWuwu that she loved your input !!! And was looking foreward to read more.

I will ask her to copy it to the thread here,
you will like what she said :D


xx


Thanx Krispy for passing this along...if I remember correctly Tutu has a good understanding of how the cogs really turn in the cosmos, so will look forward to her comments and input.
Will post more soon.
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1rof1

Hans gave me some good old fashioned spy advice once.
Think of something so irresistable, and plant a seed.
But only tell ONE person. See where it pops up.......

Nice try.
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FOR COSMOS
I asked Tutu and she had no problems with it, she loved it to share :D

So here you go Cosmos :



Thought I'd better catch up @BESERK before writing you - I see the pace has picked up there, and more folks are participating - I had 3 pages to catch up! Mercy!
[snip]
Good work, darlin'!


The thing that piqued my interest @BESERK, however, was Cosmos' post about stars being ignited by electromagnetic fields. Now, I'm wondering if these dormant stars are physical (within that frequency range covered by our 5 senses), or if they become physical (through harmonic resonance) at ignition, or increased proximity to our EM field. Guess I'll have to go look at the Science Daily article. That whole plasma physics/electrical universe thingy really opens up new doors - and don't we love that! At any rate, I'm looking forward to Cosmos' subsequent posts on the subject. In the mean time, it might be good to watch Thunderbolts of the Gods to better understand the plasma universe:


[link to video.google.com]


I will definitely be lurking more @BESERK to keep up with these new "cosmotic" discussions. Thank you, Cosmos - you ROCK.
 Quoting: TutuWuwu



heh heh heh - knew I was forgetting something. RE: this from Cosmos:


"Here is an unfolding knot, this time consisting of neutral atoms. Can stars be made of neutral atoms? Could these atoms be polarised when hitting our solar system's magnetic fields, thus initiating plasma production?"


Y'know, all things 3D are polarised, meaning they have positive and negative aspects. Without polarity, there would be no movement of anything. I guess that is why I was questioning the physicality of these dormant stars, pre-ignition.


Is that sufficiently confusing? And I haven't even been to sciencedaily yet!


love & Gratitude,
p
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xxx K
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@ AC 1501341 (aka We-all-know-who)

Quit playing games.
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TO ALL :


Tutu asked me to say to you that she wished you : all to have the best and greatest Holliday's
and to HUG everyone.


grouphug
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HOLY SHIT OP JUST LET THIS THREAD DIE PLEASE

I AM GETTING TIRED OF SEEING IT..

ALONG WITH THE I SOLD MY DINARS NOW I AM A MILLIONAIRE WTF MAN..

PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE GLP SUCK..

THAT IS HOW BAD I AM SICK OF THIS DAM RETARDED ATTENTION WHORE THREAD

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Thank God we also have well-mannered, charming, civilized people - such as yourself, AC - here...

btw: Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, AC?

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FOR COSMOS
I asked Tutu and she had no problems with it, she loved it to share :D

So here you go Cosmos :



Thought I'd better catch up @BESERK before writing you - I see the pace has picked up there, and more folks are participating - I had 3 pages to catch up! Mercy!
[snip]
Good work, darlin'!


The thing that piqued my interest @BESERK, however, was Cosmos' post about stars being ignited by electromagnetic fields. Now, I'm wondering if these dormant stars are physical (within that frequency range covered by our 5 senses), or if they become physical (through harmonic resonance) at ignition, or increased proximity to our EM field. Guess I'll have to go look at the Science Daily article. That whole plasma physics/electrical universe thingy really opens up new doors - and don't we love that! At any rate, I'm looking forward to Cosmos' subsequent posts on the subject. In the mean time, it might be good to watch Thunderbolts of the Gods to better understand the plasma universe:


[link to video.google.com]


I will definitely be lurking more @BESERK to keep up with these new "cosmotic" discussions. Thank you, Cosmos - you ROCK.
Quoting: TutuWuwu



heh heh heh - knew I was forgetting something. RE: this from Cosmos:


"Here is an unfolding knot, this time consisting of neutral atoms. Can stars be made of neutral atoms? Could these atoms be polarised when hitting our solar system's magnetic fields, thus initiating plasma production?"


Y'know, all things 3D are polarised, meaning they have positive and negative aspects. Without polarity, there would be no movement of anything. I guess that is why I was questioning the physicality of these dormant stars, pre-ignition.


Is that sufficiently confusing? And I haven't even been to sciencedaily yet!


love & Gratitude,
p
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xxx K

Thanx Krispy and Tutu.

I have to admit I had wondered about the cohesiveness of neutral atoms, so this needs to be looked at for sure.
There would have to be some sort of field within the star to draw it towards our solar system otherwise we would just fly by.
Conventional science would obviously not recognise such a scenario simply because it does not fit their model.
Thunderbolts imo is much nearer the truth.
My understanding is that magnetic fields are at the base of everything...a regular Pandora's box in fact, while electro-magnetism is a product of/within creation, and ultimately a wave form like all others.
Primordial space has all magnetic fields and full potential, but these fields are at rest...non-vibrating, while in creation all fields have a vibration...everything having its own frequency. I believe this is an important point to make because of considerations of how solar systems and galaxies are created. Needless to say I don't adhere to the conventional wisdom of how our solar system was created.
Anyway I'm rambling...as far as I understand intuitively (so this is not proof in any way,)this unlit star begins to spin upon entry to solar system fields, (think it must spin beforehand really, but this is how I've seen it),or as some refer to it, electric fluid. When it begins to spin, it develops fields and currents around itself, and ignition begins. Such a star after a time would show only a dull red colour to start with, only gradually brightening over time and as its orbital path started to bring it closer to the centre of our system. This scenario would involve several orbits of our system, and in its early ignition phase would probably spit out fire and much else besides before becomming incandescent and taking up its position at the centre of our system, where our Sun and this new one would dance around each other for the second half of this systems lifespan.
We know the higher energies coming at us are preparing the planets for shift and alignment to higher frequency living, but are they also preparing this system for another star?
Well intuition and dreams can only go so far and is subjective...so we need to look at this more critically and see whether at least the possibility of such an outcome actually holds any water, so any help with this would be very much appreciated.
Have been looking at this site to get an idea of relationship between neutral atoms and plasma production.
"From Plasma To Neutral Atoms" gives an idea that neutral atoms can indeed become ionised again and produce plasma...this piece refering to the need for heat to re-activate the neutral atoms.

[link to www.setterfield.org]
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@ Roxy ---> Rofl !!!! lolsign



@ Cosmos ---> Very interresting, have to ponder about some things a bit more, but I think you could be on a roll with some parts !! Great, love that !!!

Would be nice to have Siksence (?right spelling?) here to have a look at your topic, he knows heaps of electric Universes etc ...
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SPACE NEWS

Some might be Bezerk, others just interresting ...



-An ASTEROID that seems more to be a miniplanet
(with very very nice image !):


Rainbow Map of Giant Asteroid Shows Planet-Like Features [link to www.wired.com]

SNIP: "The Dawn spacecraft arrived at Vesta in July this year. It will study the tiny world for a year before moving on to Ceres — the largest body in the asteroid belt and another protoplanet."

Also more here : [link to www.wired.com]


--------------------------


-Update on Asteroid YU55
Interresting how all these BULGED Shapes show up ...
Remember also the ancient boulders ...



“Puzzling Structures”: Equatorial Ridge and Tall, “Pointy” Hill?
[link to www.earthfiles.com]



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- Mars Phobos-Grunt:


Europe ends calls to stranded Mars probe
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]



PS: There are rumors and conspiracies that this PROBE was never meant to leave Earth's orbit ... and that the bacteria carried inside [for "tests in Marsian territory"] are in fact a BIO-HAZERD weapon for Earthly purposes.


Phobos-Grunt 'crippled by US aurora station', 'is a bio-weapon'

Some believe it's far more likely that the Phobos-Grunt's baffling inability to get started on its journey is down to some sort of sabotage, whether intentional or unintentional. Retired Russian general Nikolay Rodionov blames America's longwave radio sites in Alaska.

It's not the first time the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Programme (HAARP) has been accused of some malevolent purpose.

General-Lieutenant Rodionov, who used to command Russia's ballistic missile early warning system, told Interfax that "the powerful electromagnetic radiation of those sites may have affected the control system of the interplanetary probe".

As part of its mission, the craft was carrying a small amount of bacteria to test whether selected organisms can survive in deep space.
Some of these bacteria are linked to anthrax, and others to cancer, AIDS and Crohn's disease "to name a few".

He postulates three separate theories:
1.Phobos-Grunt was never meant to leave Earth's orbit, but is actually intended to plummet back to the surface "to cause a massive disaster".
2.The probe was meant to go to Mars, but was sabotaged by "the powers that be", in order to (you guessed it) cause a disaster.
3.The craft was headed to Mars but it was "intercepted by possible extraterrestrial intelligences" to stop it from getting to the Red Planet.

Full article;

[link to www.theregister.co.uk]

Life experiment: Shuttle & Phobos

[link to planetary.org]

List of the microbes;

[link to www.planetary.org]

 Quoting: YBME

Source: [link to www.edgemediatv.com]



One of the things I find so remarcable is that this program claimed wanting to test if its cargo could "survive" in space >>> ???? >>>> We already KNOW they can !!! There are numerous spaceobjects found and analised with bacteria and parts of "organisms" in and on it ... and recently [I forgot the timestamp] they took certain bacteria into space and discovered that they GROW FASTER when they are away from Earths gravitational forces !!!!
Did they PROBED this vehicle [PG] into space to BOOST UP the growingspeed of whatever bacteria or organisms were inside ???




THE PHOBOS-GRUNT CONSPIRACY: Is the Russian spacecraft, a biological weapon?



However, it is a RUSSIA-CHINA mission [China has also something piggy-packed on the PG'spacecraft] ... what if they sended some of the /sample/material that was also in the Chinese Briefcases-cannisters ???
We still dont know for sure if that was AUgie-samples or not in those canisters .... but what if AUgie-sample grew also FASTER in SPACE outside Earths gravi-field ????

The FAILURED MISSION could then become a DELIBERATED MISSION and a SUCCES ... when the spacecraft falls back to earth, and is crashed in the sea/ocean [or where-ever-wanted] and the SPECIMEN RELEASED.
They could have ACTIVATED AUgie in OUTERSPACE ....


(Sorry, ...lol... my mind goes crazy right now haha)
But didnt BHD said something about "activation" in his post lately ? I will have to go back and read what his post was about again.


Although it is easy to see a conspiracy in the Russia-China mission, we must not forget the other participants in this project, additional mission participants are in Germany, Sweden, Japan and elsewhere around the globe. The complete Phobos LIFE mission team is listed at [link to www.planetary.org] .


Now JAPAN is a perfect ally in this, but Sweden and Germany are more Odessa-allinged members ... so idk ... scratching
We know that Puttin is Odessa,
and Medvedev is with China ...
Now Medvedev said this about the PG-mission :


"RUSSIAN President Dmitry Medvedev has threatened severe punishment for anyone found responsible for the failure of the space probe Phobos-Grunt,..."

(snip from : Phobos-Grunt failure fuels alien war conspiracy theories :
[link to www.theweek.co.uk] )


So this proves that PG-spacecraft carrying the little China-vehicle is indeed NOT ODESSA ...





-Aditional info to the above ...

Phobos LIFE [Living Interplanetary Flight Experiment]Sending Millions of Passengers To Mars' Moon Phobos
[link to www.marstoday.com]

SNIP: "Inside the patented Phobos LIFE "biomodule," along with a larger soil sample container, are thirty tiny tubes, each just three millimeters across. They contain millions of non-pathogenic organisms from all three domains of life: bacteria, archaea, and eukaryota. "

"Scientists estimate that about one Mars meteoroid reaches Earth each month. More than thirty have been positively identified. Many of their trips to our home world are much longer than the journey that will be made by Phobos Sample Return, but some predicted trajectories are similar to the path of the spacecraft."



Whats with all those 3's ???? !!! damned



-its still not under control, space-debris hazard :
[link to www.tehrantimes.com]
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Nice vid about the former Russian missions to Mars and Phobos ... discussing the SHADOW SHAPE on the surface, and the UFO on the last picture taken by the Phobos-spacecraft before it went down ...

The question arises at the end of the vid, if there might be a BASE on Mars that had been ACTIVATED ... [that word again] ...

[link to www.youtube.com]


In line of thinking like the above post [and like people on multiple discussionboards/forums] :

Is there a chance that RUSSIA/CHINA might wanted to transport samples of AUgie to the Red Planet, to RE-BOOST its LIFE ???
Is that why they called that project "LIFE" ????


Way back in this thread a few people like Rken, BHD and I talked about the REGENERATIVE, HEALING abilities that AUgie might have ... being a superconductor working in multiple levels or dimensions [normal and quantum, and others], acting like a lymphatic "RE-PAIR fluid" ... attracted to splashzones and to "damaged area's" in Earths crust, traveling through the OIL's and MAGMA's [comparable to our own blood & body-fluids] ...

I and other people believe that Earth, Mars and Maldek were the 3 planets that were inhabited coz they were in the fertile Goldy-Lock-Zone ---> GOLD >>> AU >>> AUgie
... all 3 containing AUgie ....
Since Maldek is now the Hammered Astroidbelt, and Mars pushed out of the fertile-zone, that would AUgie possible made INACTIVE ... in a [too] cold zone ... (DEEP FREEZE).
BUT ....
now with the solarsystems lining up to the Galactic Allignment, and with traveling through the Galactic cloud and with the Fluffy so close, we are in a very energetical and magnetical charged part of space !!!! With more neutrinos traveling through the planets, with more gamma-rays, more plasma !!!!
MAYBE, an INJECTION of AUgie with certain bacteria and COBALT could make a re-ACTION possible IN Mars ...



What IF Russia's/China's mission was halted by the ODESSA-members ?
What if they knew about the plans and sabotaged it with HAARP like that one article sais ?
Could it be possible that ODESSA calculated that if and when PG would fall back to Earth, that it could release as well a BOOSTED AUgie, but also the BOOSTED BACTERIA wich could be "intercepted" on their descend back to Earth, or even made LETHAL by releasing other real phathogens near the crashed modules, which would/could merge [the compounds] into a real hazardous bio-weapon ...
In that way the ODESSA-group would have 1`: sabotaged their "enemy" [China] and 2`: turned their CARGO into a WEAPON for their own use ....


WOWWW typical TPTB !!!

It would be so easy BLAMING the RUSSIAN/CHINESE mission for this "Weapon" , and the world would believe the Media and condemn Russia(Medvedev)/China ... while the real culprits are TPTB/ODESSA !



Idol1 vs yoda



Do you all get THE PICTURE? And the twist?
This could just be a mindghost, but as well be real and -who knows- close to the truth ...


AUgie is a consciousness-enhencer, and a frequency & vibration amplifier, a superconductor and a mechanism that will make it able to stand and survive the High-frequentional and Hig-energetical [plasma] energies that will be pass through the Galaxy when all the solarsystems allign in 2012 ...
We NEED this !

But TPTB dont want this to happen, coz it will end their reign and dominance.

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Wow, krispy, interesting stuff!

Is this the mars station? Or is there another one?

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Hi K, the word was re-animate, which if you recall is even more interesting and topical!
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Hi BHD,
Yes thanx for the post. My internetconnection went very bad and slow after my post yesterday, so I couldnt check your post out like I wanted.

Below is a quote of it:

Phobos-Grunt, failed mission.
Space craft contained both Russian and Chinese equipment and modules.


---snip---

Yesterday, the ESA got telemetry data from the craft that might have told it why the engines failed to fire to send Phobos-Grunt towards Mars, but it was unable to decode it.


"If we assume that the spacecraft may be reanimated... then we may choose some near-earth asteroid and send the spacecraft there," he said. "However, such mission requires extensive preparations. We would have to calculate the orbit and study energy issues, it would take months."



Re-animated. "the organism and its residue has re-animation properties". Certainly an interesting choice of words there.

---snip---

 Quoting: BadHairDay


Re-animation and re-activation are about the same ...
although re-animation could be more about the physical, like the HEART, and re-activation could be more about a code or data or frequency.

This is certainly interresting, and I think that AUgie can do both coz she is operating on multiple levels and dimensions [quantum and normal etc ..]

Re-animating the HEART of a body ... of Mars ... reanimating the CORE ... which could have been put to low-animation when Mars was pushed out of the Goldy-lock-zone.

By "injecting" AUgie again in the VEINS of Mars , ie the WATER-ways and other FLUID-ways beneath the surface, it could reach the CORE and 'boost' the 're-animation' ...

Wow, fantastic theory ..lol...

But WHY would "THEY" want to boost Mars (if this was the scenario) ?
There is a possibility that brings in a bit of COSMOS his theory : In Dec 2012 our sun could be loaded with information and energy [from Galactic Allignment], even might be MERGED with that 2nd sun Cosmos talked about [not jet ignited and physical in this dimension, but waiting just on the edge] ... [and refering to the 'Binary' -2 nucleous- "B" in Bezerk, thanx to Housedad]. This could lead to an EXPANSION of the energy-radius of the sun, but also a re-possitioning of the Goldy-Lock-Zone !!! Wich COULD go past Mars again, include Mars in it again !!!
Meaning that it would become a habitable planet again.
IF THAT would be the case, then Mars sure needs to be re-animated ! AUgie would then be some kind of equivallent to an adrenaline shot ... lol...

This would indeed be cathegorised as terraforming.... although I do believe that some kind of organism like AUgie is also existing IN Mars.
The only disadvantage THAT organism had, was being pushed out of the Goldy-Lock-Zone which might made it go into stacis [just like on Earth in Ice-Ages] ...
Even though Mars is also experiencing the enhanced levels of neutrino's and gamma'rays etc just like Earth, it is not sure that Mars has the same AWAKENING-EFFECTS as the Earth coz it is not in that GLZ ... A GOLD-LOCK-zone might be essentional and a key-role for suporting a certain level of life in a natural way and natural [feedback] condition.

Mars its atmosphere and surface might have gone almost lost, due to the LOST INTERACTION/low connection between their AU-ORGANISM and surface-life !!!


!!!!!

Thats why ALL LIVING PLANETS need AU !
Thats why the Anunaki went pirating for AU !
Old texts say that they needed the AU for their ATMOSPHERE that was DIEING ...
I linked it before in other post also to AUgie and their dieing planet (probably failing volcano'system + oil'system-water'system).
IF the PLANET DIES, WE DIE TOO ! (--> AVATAR!)


The old texts say also >>
TIAMATH AMARU was parted in 3 :
- the Earth
- the Hammered Belt (= Maldek the destroyed planet)
- and Mars
AUgie was MADE from [the sequence, DNA/RNA of] Tiamath Amaru ... so its not more then logical that this RE-PAIR AU ORGANISM existed/exists in all 3 !


Wow !! ..lol.. sorry ...


*(I think it is possible though for life to exist on a planet without AUgie,
- but then it would be differently BASED .. not carbon-based ...
- or there should be ARTIFICIAL mechanisms that create the needed enviromental and sustainable conditions for supporting that Life .. without this support Life wouldnt be possible.)



In this light I can see why TPTB want to sabotage this LIFE-MISSION of Russia/China ... and why so many other missions have failed to reach Mars ...

Why? :
If Mars would be RE-ANIMATED, then both SYSTEMS would T-ANGLE up and become stronger, become a PAIR ... start emitting the same frequencies again becoz of their MITOCHONDRIAL CONNECTION and the quantum entanglement-effects of the AUgies working through all matter !!!
TPTB would loose control over Earth in this symbiotic event,
coz the controling forces and waves [transmissions] they use would be annihilated/fazed out by the influences of the 2 SISTERS ...

Wow !

5a





What do we think about this ^^^ ????
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Wow, krispy, interesting stuff!

Is this the mars station? Or is there another one?

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 Quoting: Tauranga


Yes I saw that one before, its intriguing !!

it could be 1 of them Tauranga, yup ...
I dont think they have or there is only 1 station on a big planet like Mars.
Idk if it is Alien, Marsian or from Earth (Nasa or somebody else's) ....
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If Mars would be RE-ANIMATED, then both SYSTEMS would T-ANGLE up and become stronger, become a PAIR ... start emitting the same frequencies again becoz of their MITOCHONDRIAL CONNECTION and the quantum entanglement-effects of the AUgies working through all matter !!!
TPTB would loose control over Earth in this symbiotic event,
coz the controling forces and waves [transmissions] they use would be annihilated/fazed out by the influences of the 2 SISTERS ...

Wow !

5a

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 Quoting: Krispy71


Hi K, this is what I was saying before. We were on a similar thought line. The only difference I can see is that I have stopped referring to 'AUgie' as a thing, and prefer to see an all encompassing energy that is quantum, and directed, and exists in all forms of matter, living or dead.

When NEEDED, it can be made to manifest in many ways. On a planetary scale, it may be used to repair a damaged area, or be used to physically grow a planet, thus achieving a new Schuman resonance.

Tie that in with the link to our brains, and you see that just like the planet, we too then will vibrate at a new rate, which will present and unlock new possibilities.

The RE-ANIMATION of things considered not living is the fascinating part for me K. The quantum nature (IMHO) of 'AUgie' means it can exist in any form. So with INTENT added to the mix, it will re-animate any form and create life. The life doesnt need to be flesh and blood. It can be sentient digital life, as we may be seeing with Stuxnet.

The idea that Stuxnet might be trying to escape our world, and settle on our moon isnt that crazy.

So many things happening at the same time now, and yet they still have a hold on the cork of the genie's bottle. Not for long me thinks.....
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MARS NEWS:



NASA Mars Rover Finds Mineral Vein Deposited by Water
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

SNIP:
The Homestake deposit, whether gypsum or another form of calcium sulfate, likely formed from water dissolving calcium out of volcanic rocks. The calcium combined with sulfur that was either leached from the rocks or introduced as volcanic gas, and it was deposited as calcium sulfate into an underground fracture that later became exposed at the surface.





Gypsum Soil Fertilizer (!!!!) :
the early nineteenth century it was regarded as an almost miraculous fertilizer.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gypsum forms some of the largest crystals found in nature, up to 11 metres long, in the form of selenite


- GYPSUM, SALT and Volcano's :
Gypsum is deposited from lake and sea water, as well as in hot springs, from volcanic vapors, and sulfate solutions in veins. Hydrothermal anhydrite in veins is commonly hydrated to gypsum by groundwater in near surface exposures. It is often associated with the minerals halite and sulfur.



- Gypsum & bacteria , [think the LIFE-experiment *** ]
Gypsum is also formed as a by-product of sulfide oxidation, amongst others by pyrite oxidation, when the sulfuric acid generated reacts with calcium carbonate. Its presence indicates oxidizing conditions. Under reducing conditions, the sulfates it contains can be reduced back to sulfide by sulfate reducing bacteria.


!!!! sulfate reducing bacteria -->
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Sulfate-reducing bacteria are those bacteria and archaea that can obtain energy by oxidizing organic compounds or molecular hydrogen (H2) while reducing sulfate (SO2−4) to hydrogen sulfide (H2S). In a sense, these organisms "breathe" sulfate rather than oxygen, in a form of anaerobic respiration.
Sulfate-reducing bacteria can be traced back to 3.5 billion years ago and are considered to be among the oldest forms of microorganisms, having contributed to the sulfur cycle soon after life emerged on Earth.


Some sulfate-reducing bacteria can reduce hydrocarbons such as benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene and xylene and have been used to clean up contaminated soils. Their use has also been proposed for other kinds of contaminations.

There are also three genera of Archaea known to be capable of sulfate reduction: Archaeoglobus, Thermocladium and Caldivirga. They are found in hydrothermal vents, oil deposits, and hot springs.



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ARCHAEA !!!


*** Phobos-Grunt LIFE [link to www.spaceflight101.com]

This experiment is part of the Phobos-Grunt Mission that is scheduled to be in progress from 2011 to 2014. LIFE has been developed by The Planetary Society and consists of a Biomodule that contains selected microorganisms that will be exposed to the environment of interplanetary space for the duration of the Phobos-Grunt Mission.
The Project includes organisms from all three domains of life:
archaea, eukaryota and bacteria.

Archaea:
-Haloarcula
-Methanothermobacter wolfeii (Methane Producing Organism)
-Pyrococcus furiosus (Maximum Temperature Indicator)




*Haloarcula & Mars [link to www.google.nl]

Haloarcula are extreme halophilic archaeons.
Haloarcula are found in neutral saline environments like salt lakes, marine salterns, and saline soils.

[link to microbewiki.kenyon.edu]




*Methane producing & Mars :
[link to 2the4.net]

The type of bacteria that are indicated to have existed on Mars appear to be similar to those on Earth termed archaebacteria. These are bacteria with an ancient history, first appearing on Earth 3.5 billion years ago under the atmospheric conditions described above. Recent advances in genetic analysis indicate that these bacteria are a third form of life different from regular bacteria (Eubacteria) and all multi-cellular life (Eukaryotes). These archaebacteria survive through exotic metabolic processes that rely of a wide variety of chemical reactionsto provide energy.

The archaebacteria fall into four major classes:
-Acidophiles which are able to grow in the pH range of 0.0 to 5.0.
-Thermophiles that can grow in a temperature range of +30 to +250oC.
-Halophiles that survive in 10 to 27% sodium chloride solutions.
-Methanogens which are the best known archaebacteria and -form methane in sediments and the intestinal tracts of animals.




*Pyrococcus furiosus & Mars [link to www.nasa.gov]

Stress management is key: Oddly, there are already Earth creatures that thrive in Mars-like conditions. They're not plants, though. They're some of Earth's earliest life forms--ancient microbes that live at the bottom of the ocean, or deep within Arctic ice. Boss and Grunden hope to produce Mars-friendly plants by borrowing genes from these extreme-loving microbes. And the first genes they're taking are those that will strengthen the plants' ability to deal with stress.

Ordinary plants already possess a way to detoxify superoxide, but the researchers believe that a microbe known as Pyrococcus furiosus uses one that may work better. P. furiosus lives in a superheated vent at the bottom of the ocean, but periodically it gets spewed out into cold sea water. So, unlike the detoxification pathways in plants, the ones in P. furiosus function over an astonishing 100+ degree Celsius range in temperature. That's a swing that could match what plants experience in a greenhouse on Mars.






THE ARCHAEA & SALT CONNECTION !!!
(Remember that SALT was very inmportant to this BEZERK-thread and AUgie !!)




Mars, sulfate, archaea :
[link to www.google.nl]


Microbial Life in Hypersaline Environments [link to serc.carleton.edu]

We now know that hypersaline bodies of water that exceed the modest 3.5 % salt of earth's oceans are populated with rich communities of "halophiles," or salt-lovers. These microbes are in all three of the Domains of life, Archaea, Bacteria, and Eukarya (Baxter et al., 2005, Felix and Rushforth, 1979), .... The halophilic microbes are colored with carotenoid compounds in their cell membrane, painting the waters with a pink-orange hue.

... Various species of halophilic Archaea (halophiles) have been revived (!!!!) from fluid inclusions in ancient salt crystals (Norton et al., 1993; Denner et al., 1994; Grant et al., 1998; Vreeland et al., 2000).

The quantity of ancient crystals that harbor viable halophiles, however, is low. ... two of the 52 crystals studied contained Archaea that survived dormancy.


Halophiles on Mars?
Great Salt Lake has high sodium chloride concentrations as well as a significant amount of sulfate. The same could be said for the evaporates discovered on the Meridiani Planum plains of Mars, a hypothesized salt lake. Since we know that halophiles can remain dormant for long periods of time, what would we find if we searched in salt crystals from the red planet?






scratching --> Why wanting to bring all those bacteria to Mars/Phobos, which are already THERE ...
The answer again, lies in the re-animation/re-activation of Mars and its moons ...

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---snip---

If Mars would be RE-ANIMATED, then both SYSTEMS would T-ANGLE up and become stronger, become a PAIR ... start emitting the same frequencies again becoz of their MITOCHONDRIAL CONNECTION and the quantum entanglement-effects of the AUgies working through all matter !!!
TPTB would loose control over Earth in this symbiotic event,
coz the controling forces and waves [transmissions] they use would be annihilated/fazed out by the influences of the 2 SISTERS ...

Wow !

5a

What do we think about this ^^^ ????
 Quoting: Krispy71


Hi K, this is what I was saying before. We were on a similar thought line. The only difference I can see is that I have stopped referring to 'AUgie' as a thing, and prefer to see an all encompassing energy that is quantum, and directed, and exists in all forms of matter, living or dead.

When NEEDED, it can be made to manifest in many ways. On a planetary scale, it may be used to repair a damaged area, or be used to physically grow a planet, thus achieving a new Schuman resonance.

Tie that in with the link to our brains, and you see that just like the planet, we too then will vibrate at a new rate, which will present and unlock new possibilities.

The RE-ANIMATION of things considered not living is the fascinating part for me K. The quantum nature (IMHO) of 'AUgie' means it can exist in any form. So with INTENT added to the mix, it will re-animate any form and create life. The life doesnt need to be flesh and blood. It can be sentient digital life, as we may be seeing with Stuxnet.

The idea that Stuxnet might be trying to escape our world, and settle on our moon isnt that crazy.

So many things happening at the same time now, and yet they still have a hold on the cork of the genie's bottle. Not for long me thinks.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501341




Hi BHD,

Nice to see you again :)
Yes its great to think and research in symilar lines !


..lol.. there is no 'difference', I also refer to AUgie as quantum and existing on ALL levels, as you can read in my posts. Yes she is matter & vibration-energy, normal and quantum.

To me, there is NO DEAD matter. Everything that is vibrating is not 'dead' ... but just an other STATE.

Yes : When NEEDED, it can manifest in many ways. On a planetary scale, it may be used to repair a damaged area, or be used to physically 'help' grow a planet, thus achieving a new Schuman resonance. Total agree on that :)

Yes, we are symbiont with Earth. And we all agreed that AUgie is linked to our brain, coz she/it has connection to the Melanin and Melatonin [and pineal gland, which is linked to our consciousness state & rate]. Eventually all life on Earth will follow the frequency (Hz) that she is emitting, but when we unite and harmonize we as organisms can lift and raise the overall Hz very easily and quickly.
Just like the Sun and Earth have their FTE, so have we lifeforms and the Earth FTE's. (And all the sun's with the Galaxy ... micro-macro fractalistic principle)

There is no 'Intent' without "consciousness" ...

Indeed, Life doesnt have to be flesh and blood, I have said that also before ...
Life and Consciousness have many forms, even unimaginable to most of us humans.


Now the only part I dont agree on is the STUXNET - AUgie connection.
And to me it doesnt resonates that Stuxnet wants to escapt to the moon.
(That doesnt means that what you say couldnt be true,
no it only sais that to me it doesnt feel like being so. )



Yess the genie & the bottle ..lol... afro
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I have read through most of the new posts and found it both interesting and entertaining for the greater part.

The speculation on the satellite is interesting and no doubt there are some ulterior motives and secret agendas in play but it is highly likely the launch went ahead as planned because that was the orbital window required and the launch site is needed for another launch. I think that something changed at the last minute which resulted in the current situation. I doubt that HAARP or other sabotage was used as why just damage it and run the risk of it landing somewhere inconvenient when it could do a lot of damage and ensure mission failure if detonated at launch? As there are only limited operational sites active it can also be surmised that a decision was made to proceed as delays on the ground are hazardous considering the booster materials and payload. I commented on this on the 14th Nov. in the breaking news section where I observed the following based on the information at hand:


The Russian Probe Phobos-Grunt is in serious trouble after boost rockets failed to fire just after launching and in its current state is on a collision course with somewhere on earth, hopefully an ocean or isolated desert. It contains toxic chemicals as well as radioactive materials, probably cobalt! The real concern is that they will be unable to get these rockets to function which means the satellite which is in a decaying orbit will in the next two weeks fall back to Earth. Phobos-Grunt is fully-laden with unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (It is toxic and is absorbed through the skin.) and nitrogen tetroxide; that's 10 tons of fuel and oxidizer. (I have heard everything from 7 to 12 tons so used 10 tons) The probe itself weighs-in at only three tons. There is a very real danger here as this fuel mixture could freeze into a solid block of ice that could survive re-entry. This substance is so toxic one drop on contact with the skin will kill an adult.
 Quoting: article


Once loaded into the launch vehicle this material is in a vulnerable state. Interestingly since the launch the satellite has managed to maintain a holding orbit and has actually gained altitude which suggests its maintaining a holding orbit which to my mind indicates the boost rockets are working and the possibility they are waiting for something, perhaps as stated for the Sun to relax a little or maybe another agenda is at work. One could ask if it is in a holding orbit why they have not just said so, my guess is if they admit it they then have to admit to why. The Sun which has been particularly active of recent times could be the answer. There is a known reluctance among space officialdom to admit any limitations to space travel due to radiation, something that surges from the Sun, radiations that would present a serious threat to the satellite as it made the journey, particularly if biological material and or hyper sensitive materials are aboard. Of course there could be other reasons.

Regarding the Schuman Resonance and its theorised association with the Earth's magnetic field, theres an item you maybe interested in that I read recently which states that scientists are of the opinion that the Milky way galaxy is on the verge of a galactic pole shift. Now how that relates to us may well depend on if we are a member of the Sagittarius galaxy or if we are actually still part of the Milky way and just sub-ducted into the Sagittarius galaxy.
An easy to read summation here:
[link to mitchbattros.typepad.com]


I am fairly certain we have covered the biological origins of gold before so will not bother rehashing those thoughts here. We have also discussed the interest early visitors to Earth (or Terra - remnant of Tiamat so the legends tell us) to harvest it. Now if gold is biologically created then why did these so called superior beings not just take the biological agent to create the gold for them where they needed it? Clearly other factors are inherent in this that make that difficult if not impossible. To assume that a space roaming race was unable to source gold in a multitude of sites seems a little short sighted if it was just a mineral phenomena. This adds merit to the claim for the uniqueness of Earth and is not easily discredited. In fact if you consider the very weight of gold makes it settle then the geological and environmental activity of the Earth would have settled most of it into the depths of the earth long ago suggesting that it would be a better prospect to mine it on planets without these activities. This also adds weight to the biological theory for the creation of gold.

Life on Mars? I have read books and seen films about this for decades now. Here are a couple of items on that subject.


Recent whistle-blowers have come forward and given renewed credence to the myth of "ALTERNATIVE-THREE," that planet Mars is being populated by scientists and prepared as a SURVIVAL COLONY in the face of imminent catastrophic events that will decimate the population of planet Earth. Get the facts about this amazing and enduring story.
 Quoting: ...







Extract from Alternative 3 - Mars landing 22nd May 1962



Alernative 3 - If you have not seen this then you should. keep in mind it was aired in 1977 which is when I first saw it here in Oz.



Some have reported life found on Mars is hazardous to Man. My question to that is how did they know? Also most would have seen the Mars base accidentally left on google maps?



This was heavily discredited by Richard C Hoagland (who I have serious doubts about) something that surprised me given his supposed support for structures on Mars. He did this on the Coast to Coast Radio network.


As for life on other planets what about Titan in this mix? Oddly it is the closest to Earth type in the solar system besides the Earth itself just gripped in an ice age. It has magnetic fields and a Schuman Resonance, one of the few that do, perhaps this is a sign of a living world? Telluric currents anyone?


We co-create our reality and it is our thoughts which make things possible, everything we have in our society is the result of thought, if you imagine it then it can come into being. This alone is an amazing clue to reality. If you write a book about something and use language so that it can be visualised well you have set the stage for that story to become fact, there is plenty of evidence of this which some say is the result of writers somehow seeing the future, like Jules Verne to give just one example. A man who predicted much of what was to come in his stories, I think thats a cover story used to distract from people thinking about it. Books work better than movies because you mentally visualise and imagine when reading whereas in a movie the visuals are done for you. So say it takes 100,000 or more viewers of a movie to have the effect of 1,000 reading. People with knowledge of the occult and its use of images to focus energies can make events manifest quickly in the desired direction by these methods. Fortunately the age which allowed the occult to function has passed and it is in decline but like an old cornered tiger it still has teeth. If people stopped paying it attention it will pass a lot quicker than if they feed it with their energies. Seems simple enough but it is an amazingly difficult idea to get past the programmed ideas so well placed.

If we unite on seeing a world returned to its pristine state and we having fulfilling spiritual lives in touch with nature then it would happen. Speculating upon anything else is actually a distraction to prevent this from happening and in so doing allowing the elites to fulfill their desires. They have failed to-date because many people have decided they don't like the projected future laid before them and have opted to seek an alternative. This will not stop bad things from happening mind you unless even more are able to shake the delusion and look to a better future than the one being placed before us. With this in mind you can see how dangerous it is to think in the negative, like creating a living computer virus, as if we need that.

If you want some recent interesting negative programming look at the movie Apollo 18.

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I have read through most of the new posts and found it both interesting and entertaining for the greater part.

The speculation on the satellite is interesting and no doubt there are some ulterior motives and secret agendas in play but it is highly likely the launch went ahead as planned because that was the orbital window required and the launch site is needed for another launch. I think that something changed at the last minute which resulted in the current situation. I doubt that HAARP or other sabotage was used as why just damage it and run the risk of it landing somewhere inconvenient when it could do a lot of damage and ensure mission failure if detonated at launch? As there are only limited operational sites active it can also be surmised that a decision was made to proceed as delays on the ground are hazardous considering the booster materials and payload. I commented on this on the 14th Nov. in the breaking news section where I observed the following based on the information at hand:


The Russian Probe Phobos-Grunt is in serious trouble after boost rockets failed to fire just after launching and in its current state is on a collision course with somewhere on earth, hopefully an ocean or isolated desert. It contains toxic chemicals as well as radioactive materials, probably cobalt! The real concern is that they will be unable to get these rockets to function which means the satellite which is in a decaying orbit will in the next two weeks fall back to Earth. Phobos-Grunt is fully-laden with unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (It is toxic and is absorbed through the skin.) and nitrogen tetroxide; that's 10 tons of fuel and oxidizer. (I have heard everything from 7 to 12 tons so used 10 tons) The probe itself weighs-in at only three tons. There is a very real danger here as this fuel mixture could freeze into a solid block of ice that could survive re-entry. This substance is so toxic one drop on contact with the skin will kill an adult.
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Once loaded into the launch vehicle this material is in a vulnerable state. Interestingly since the launch the satellite has managed to maintain a holding orbit and has actually gained altitude which suggests its maintaining a holding orbit which to my mind indicates the boost rockets are working and the possibility they are waiting for something, perhaps as stated for the Sun to relax a little or maybe another agenda is at work. One could ask if it is in a holding orbit why they have not just said so, my guess is if they admit it they then have to admit to why. The Sun which has been particularly active of recent times could be the answer. There is a known reluctance among space officialdom to admit any limitations to space travel due to radiation, something that surges from the Sun, radiations that would present a serious threat to the satellite as it made the journey, particularly if biological material and or hyper sensitive materials are aboard. Of course there could be other reasons.

Regarding the Schuman Resonance and its theorised association with the Earth's magnetic field, theres an item you maybe interested in that I read recently which states that scientists are of the opinion that the Milky way galaxy is on the verge of a galactic pole shift. Now how that relates to us may well depend on if we are a member of the Sagittarius galaxy or if we are actually still part of the Milky way and just sub-ducted into the Sagittarius galaxy.
An easy to read summation here:
[link to mitchbattros.typepad.com]


I am fairly certain we have covered the biological origins of gold before so will not bother rehashing those thoughts here. We have also discussed the interest early visitors to Earth (or Terra - remnant of Tiamat so the legends tell us) to harvest it. Now if gold is biologically created then why did these so called superior beings not just take the biological agent to create the gold for them where they needed it? Clearly other factors are inherent in this that make that difficult if not impossible. To assume that a space roaming race was unable to source gold in a multitude of sites seems a little short sighted if it was just a mineral phenomena. This adds merit to the claim for the uniqueness of Earth and is not easily discredited. In fact if you consider the very weight of gold makes it settle then the geological and environmental activity of the Earth would have settled most of it into the depths of the earth long ago suggesting that it would be a better prospect to mine it on planets without these activities. This also adds weight to the biological theory for the creation of gold.

Life on Mars? I have read books and seen films about this for decades now. Here are a couple of items on that subject.


Recent whistle-blowers have come forward and given renewed credence to the myth of "ALTERNATIVE-THREE," that planet Mars is being populated by scientists and prepared as a SURVIVAL COLONY in the face of imminent catastrophic events that will decimate the population of planet Earth. Get the facts about this amazing and enduring story.
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Extract from Alternative 3 - Mars landing 22nd May 1962
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Alernative 3 - If you have not seen this then you should. keep in mind it was aired in 1977 which is when I first saw it here in Oz.
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Some have reported life found on Mars is hazardous to Man. My question to that is how did they know? Also most would have seen the Mars base accidentally left on google maps?
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This was heavily discredited by Richard C Hoagland (who I have serious doubts about) something that surprised me given his supposed support for structures on Mars. He did this on the Coast to Coast Radio network.


As for life on other planets what about Titan in this mix? Oddly it is the closest to Earth type in the solar system besides the Earth itself just gripped in an ice age. It has magnetic fields and a Schuman Resonance, one of the few that do, perhaps this is a sign of a living world? Telluric currents anyone?


We co-create our reality and it is our thoughts which make things possible, everything we have in our society is the result of thought, if you imagine it then it can come into being. This alone is an amazing clue to reality. If you write a book about something and use language so that it can be visualised well you have set the stage for that story to become fact, there is plenty of evidence of this which some say is the result of writers somehow seeing the future, like Jules Verne to give just one example. A man who predicted much of what was to come in his stories, I think thats a cover story used to distract from people thinking about it. Books work better than movies because you mentally visualise and imagine when reading whereas in a movie the visuals are done for you. So say it takes 100,000 or more viewers of a movie to have the effect of 1,000 reading. People with knowledge of the occult and its use of images to focus energies can make events manifest quickly in the desired direction by these methods. Fortunately the age which allowed the occult to function has passed and it is in decline but like an old cornered tiger it still has teeth. If people stopped paying it attention it will pass a lot quicker than if they feed it with their energies. Seems simple enough but it is an amazingly difficult idea to get past the programmed ideas so well placed.

If we unite on seeing a world returned to its pristine state and we having fulfilling spiritual lives in touch with nature then it would happen. Speculating upon anything else is actually a distraction to prevent this from happening and in so doing allowing the elites to fulfill their desires. They have failed to-date because many people have decided they don't like the projected future laid before them and have opted to seek an alternative. This will not stop bad things from happening mind you unless even more are able to shake the delusion and look to a better future than the one being placed before us. With this in mind you can see how dangerous it is to think in the negative, like creating a living computer virus, as if we need that.

If you want some recent interesting negative programming look at the movie Apollo 18.

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Hello Mud,
what a great reply !

- Thanks for the additional info about the launch, I didnt know that.
The HAARP-sabotage-thing is a possibility mentioned by others, I just wanted all the theories posted ... I have no idea if HAARP is involved, but something is a bit strange around all of this. Its great to have more people looking at it and brainstorming about it.
I dont think an alledged other party would wanna 'damage' it with risks, they only would do things with calculations and gain for own purpose, ...


- Very interresting the bolded part about the satellite and the sun !!! scratching "Waiting for something" ... hmmmm ....


- wow Aagin that Sagitarius-Galaxy thing !!!!
That keeps popping up ! Great !
Yes a Galactic poleshift is ofcoz possible too !!! That opens up many windows ! I will read the article and come back on it later.

- I think that -for one- the Annunaki also mined other planets and spots for their gold, and that Earth wasnt the ONLY place to harvest it. It is indeed shortsighted to think that the harvest of Terra-gold would be enough to sustain their 3000+ year cycle [3600yrs] ...
Like I said above in other posts, I do think that 'certain' conditions could be needed for GOLD to manifest/grow/devellop, and that 1 could be the presence in a Goldy-locks-zone of a star. So I agree that factors are inherent in this proces, and that it is not JUST easily re-produced outside these factors or conditions, and "synthetic" gold isnt the same thing, same vibration and resonance.

I heared many other sources say that GOLD isnt that valuable in the Glaxy, that there is more and plenty of it in and on other planets. But the Annunaki glued the value-myth to it as a part to surpress the populace and create a means of a system like we know today with the goals it has to certain elites and the maintenance of that system.
Earth isnt unique for its GOLD, but for other reasons. Gold and diamonds arnt that rare in the Univers, only the technology and ways to exploid it and mine it in the Earth and elsewhere are what is making it "expensive".

Imo, gold is a symbiont thing with a "living planet", a living organism in certain conditions.
I think that if NASA went looking for the signals of GOLD in other planets, instead of carbon and water, they would pin down a lot of "Life bearing habitats" !
But of course there are many other ways that life can manifest, then our H-AU-MAN way of composition. There might be aliens who dont need GOLD but other elements to manifest, and there are forms of existance that are mainly energetic and not or minor "matter/elements" ....


- I will have a lookat the vids later :)
Yes I am surprised that R. Hoagland discredited that structure/base on Mars !! I saw that interview on youtube. Couldnt believe when I heared him say that.


- Titan : Yep she is surely a candidate ....

hf Telluric currents : [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Thanks for pointing my view on this !!! I didnt knew the term and why it was used for. Very interresting !!!!


- Yep I totally agree on the thoughtprocesses and creation-ways ! Great put in words by you
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