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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.
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Anyone want to give a short summary of over 400 pages? lol Or at least point the way to which page ranges would be the most important to read to get a sense of this thread.
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Anyone want to give a short summary of over 400 pages? lol Or at least point the way to which page ranges would be the most important to read to get a sense of this thread.
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If you go back to pg 395 and scroll down almost to the bottom, there is a post of 'relevant postings'. I would hurry... things have been moved and deleted from this thread.
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.
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Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.
 Quoting: RenegadeSon

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.

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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.
 Quoting: Gabriel

Yes, I was thinking about the fish kills earlier, dead fish everywhere. We have had tropical storms, but I don't recall any hurricanes this year... is that right? Weather manipulation for the Gulf no doubt.
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What do they all have in common? American bases (excluding Ecuador who kicked them out).

Disaster Relief drills...GOM? or Eq?



We do not know what is going on.

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At the link yesterday, there was a video on one of the ROVs showing oil blowing out the seams. Vid is one today.
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.

Yes, I was thinking about the fish kills earlier, dead fish everywhere. We have had tropical storms, but I don't recall any hurricanes this year... is that right? Weather manipulation for the Gulf no doubt.
 Quoting: RenegadeSon

I've been a gulf coaster for 45 years and have been through many Hurricanes. Watching these systems enter the Gulf and then peter out has raised the hair on the back of my neck. It should be the opposite, come into the Gulf, hit the hot Gulf waters and grow like a SOB. Something has changed and its EVIL, i can just feel it.
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.

Yes, I was thinking about the fish kills earlier, dead fish everywhere. We have had tropical storms, but I don't recall any hurricanes this year... is that right? Weather manipulation for the Gulf no doubt.

I've been a gulf coaster for 45 years and have been through many Hurricanes. Watching these systems enter the Gulf and then peter out has raised the hair on the back of my neck. It should be the opposite, come into the Gulf, hit the hot Gulf waters and grow like a SOB. Something has changed and its EVIL, i can just feel it.
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Yup, lived there myself for a number of years. Opal and Erin in the same year, and Ivan was interesting...
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Morning all,
This is from another thread on GLP Thread: CSI of Deepwater Horizon Wreck by Geohazard Expert and Aljazeera-Simmons Theory Confirmed!!!

According to this site, BP was drilling a well at an undisclosed location 720ft NW of Well A site called S20BC. Well B is 315ft from Well A, so this is an undisclosed Well site. Lots of illustrations and diagrams on this site.

Source link [link to bklim.newsvine.com]

[snip from site} BP could not have been drilling at Well A location when the 20th April blowout occurred, but an undisclosed seabed location (S20BC) 720ft NW of Well A.
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We have discussed much earlier in this thread that there are relief wells "C" and "D" but could not find much information.

Renegade's link at newsvine is showing us "C" and "D". I, for one, remain somewhat confused about BP's activity. There are a several things which much be done immediately:

1. Pull BP completely off the scene,

2. Nationalize all BP equipment and assets for use in the cleanup. Include every BP asset worldwide because this disaster is affecting the entire world.

3. Immediately set up a consortium of international oil experts to deal with this disaster by consensus. US Gulf Coast states must be individually represented in the consortium.

4. Remove Thad Allen. Wasn't he transferred to Hawaii? He is not acceptable as a spokesperson. I see no reason to make oil spill announcements through the US Coast Guard. Announcements and regular updates should come from officials at Minerals Management Services.

5. Set up prosecution of individual BP officials and seize title and possession of their personal assets pending outcome of court findings.


For the public's health, safety, welfare and benefit we need accurate and timely reports of assessment of the oil spill and a regularly revised, projected timeline for redemption of beaches and fishing habitat.
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For Pete's sake, how many law enforcement agencies, anywhere in the world, would leave suspected murders in charge at a crime scene?

God help us to get out of the hands of these evil, vile people at British Petroleum (BP).
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.

Yes, I was thinking about the fish kills earlier, dead fish everywhere. We have had tropical storms, but I don't recall any hurricanes this year... is that right? Weather manipulation for the Gulf no doubt.

I've been a gulf coaster for 45 years and have been through many Hurricanes. Watching these systems enter the Gulf and then peter out has raised the hair on the back of my neck. It should be the opposite, come into the Gulf, hit the hot Gulf waters and grow like a SOB. Something has changed and its EVIL, i can just feel it.
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there is news blurb on this site that describes how high plancton levels have an effect on hurricanes. so if something in the water killed all the plankton....thanks bp
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.
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Today if the 15th. It's not too often that hurricanes come before the middle of August.
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.



Today if the 15th. It's not too often that hurricanes come before the middle of August.
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Yes, August and September are the prime months for Hurricanes in the Gulf, even October and I seem to remember even a few in November. I may be getting old but i don't EVER remember this many systems move into the Gulf and then die out. I think there has been three of them so far this year do just that.
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just an observation / question.

BP is obviously still working but under who's control, this being the case surely they couldn't continue their operation without consent of US gov or who ever controls them.
With the amount of military assests in gulf it would be relativly easy for an "accident" to have occured which would have removed/hindered bp from doing whatever there doing. so are they only following orders from above?

if this post seems obvious please forgive me but i'm still trying to work the connections from all the info provided by yourselves :-) :hf:
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This my help :)

Ocean's Color Can Change Hurricane Patterns

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Good day, very quiet on DED, assets waiting and running silent.
About The French Week.. It is a new media communiqué started and overseen by a branch of French Intelligence. It was approved and discussed at European embassie meetings. .. (information in this thread is obviously NOT all of it there,(otherwise they would know about the leak, me and girlfriend) but other extra global intelligence stuff in another format code is. I only mention it so you know how to read that paper and what it's actually for to get a wider perspective on this thread) The AFP issue is dead.
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Thanx for the confirmation of what I thought at 2 pages ago :)
I am glad there is no furter working with AFP.


Only the anomalies :
TFWIFIEI

TFW = task force web (possibly refering to the french week-newspaper as a code-sharing-place)
toxic flood water (possibly refering to something that happened and cauzes toxic water to flood in 1 of the theaters)

IFI = international flood initiative
[link to www.ifi-home.info]
(seems to align with the toxic flood water alert ...)

EI = early intervention, end/exercise item, enable interrupt
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This my help :)

Ocean's Color Can Change Hurricane Patterns

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thanks for the link acolyte. i couldnt manage it earlier . very early in your hurricane season but, as i eluded to earlier,if the oil/methane kills alot of plankton it could inhibit your storm season. i saw a link way back in the thread about high levels of petrotoxins in samples taken from gulf beaches and how one sample was so high it exploded when solvents where added. dont know if this was a hoax.
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This my help :)

Ocean's Color Can Change Hurricane Patterns

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 Quoting: acolyte


Hurricanes can cauze floodings ...
or destruction from things (that work with toxic elemants ...) and intoxicate the floodwater with.
Maybe there are ways to intervene in this or to interrupt...


Just a thought.
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This my help :)

Ocean's Color Can Change Hurricane Patterns

[link to www.treehugger.com]


Hurricanes can cauze floodings ...
or destruction from things (that work with toxic elemants ...) and intoxicate the floodwater with.

Maybe there are ways to intervene in this or to interrupt...


Just a thought.
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.



Today if the 15th. It's not too often that hurricanes come before the middle of August.

Yes, August and September are the prime months for Hurricanes in the Gulf, even October and I seem to remember even a few in November. I may be getting old but i don't EVER remember this many systems move into the Gulf and then die out. I think there has been three of them so far this year do just that.
 Quoting: Gabriel

Golf gets colder.

look at: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

but warning, since site went off air for 2,5 days, they have changed the temperature scale at the right.
advice: open 2 windows and compare juli/june with aug
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just an observation / question.

BP is obviously still working but under who's control, this being the case surely they couldn't continue their operation without consent of US gov or who ever controls them.
With the amount of military assests in gulf it would be relativly easy for an "accident" to have occured which would have removed/hindered bp from doing whatever there doing. so are they only following orders from above?

if this post seems obvious please forgive me but i'm still trying to work the connections from all the info provided by yourselves :-) :hf:
 Quoting: onlypureluck



From perspective of many of us in the Southeast USA, BP is calling the shots and there is no "orders from above." That is the reason it is necessary to remove BP officials from the sites, and take away any authority they have to make the calls on the cleanup and the well remediation, and they absolutely must be stopped from any authority over beach access and security in the area.

The damage is done, BP has had their chance to prove their accountability and they have not.

BP is liable.

Remove the complicit murders and put in an international group of specialists to stop the oil and set up remediation.
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.



Today if the 15th. It's not too often that hurricanes come before the middle of August.

Yes, August and September are the prime months for Hurricanes in the Gulf, even October and I seem to remember even a few in November. I may be getting old but i don't EVER remember this many systems move into the Gulf and then die out. I think there has been three of them so far this year do just that.

Golf gets colder.

look at: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

but warning, since site went off air for 2,5 days, they have changed the temperature scale at the right.
advice: open 2 windows and compare juli/june with aug
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and play with depths and dates
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.......
Golf gets colder.

look at: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

but warning, since site went off air for 2,5 days, they have changed the temperature scale at the right.
advice: open 2 windows and compare juli/june with aug
 Quoting: owenmeany 979825



Europe is going to need a lot of heating fuel this winter to keep from freezing.
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.......
Golf gets colder.

look at: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

but warning, since site went off air for 2,5 days, they have changed the temperature scale at the right.
advice: open 2 windows and compare juli/june with aug



Europe is going to need a lot of heating fuel this winter to keep from freezing.
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yep my idea, and, not confirmed yet, but what about the Gulfstream, is it a little bit interupted or not.
2 things can add up
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It would seem that BeePee has persistently lied throughout this whole thing.

Yeah man, the more info we see, it seems the less I know. Is it just me? Maybe a broader perspective is needed.

YES. Sometimes you can get to caught up in the details and miss the big picture. I am trying to step back and look at what "in a whole" the OP is trying to tell us in regards to what is going on in the world at present. Lots of EQs around the Pacific "ring of fire", lots of mysterious fish kills, lots of weird weather patterns causing very bad floods, heatwaves, fires, etc. And the one that is biting at me that is so unusual is the lack of Hurricanes in a year that was predicted to be very bad.
 Quoting: Gabriel

THANK YOU for mentioning that...I wrote an email to a friend yesterday and said exactly the same thing....
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This my help :)

Ocean's Color Can Change Hurricane Patterns

[link to www.treehugger.com]


thanks for the link acolyte. i couldnt manage it earlier . very early in your hurricane season but, as i eluded to earlier,if the oil/methane kills alot of plankton it could inhibit your storm season. i saw a link way back in the thread about high levels of petrotoxins in samples taken from gulf beaches and how one sample was so high it exploded when solvents where added. dont know if this was a hoax.
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Why don't the people who post here like to play on any of the other GOM threads?

Just sayin'...? hiding
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This my help :)

Ocean's Color Can Change Hurricane Patterns

[link to www.treehugger.com]


Hurricanes can cauze floodings ...
or destruction from things (that work with toxic elemants ...) and intoxicate the floodwater with.
Maybe there are ways to intervene in this or to interrupt...


Just a thought.
 Quoting: Krispy71

Yep agreed, like others, I was wondering where those expected big hurricanes were? Is it time for a big one yet?
I Posted this thread below in May about the effect of a hurricane in the GoM.
Thread: AMERICA : Only 1 HURRICANE Away From A Mega Disaster ? Hurricane season nears as oil leak grows
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just an observation / question.

BP is obviously still working but under who's control, this being the case surely they couldn't continue their operation without consent of US gov or who ever controls them.

From perspective of many of us in the Southeast USA, BP is calling the shots and there is no "orders from above." That is the reason it is necessary to remove BP officials from the sites, and take away any authority they have to make the calls on the cleanup and the well remediation, and they absolutely must be stopped from any authority over beach access and security in the area.

The damage is done, BP has had their chance to prove their accountability and they have not.

BP is liable.

Remove the complicit murders and put in an international group of specialists to stop the oil and set up remediation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068936

I think the proper perspective is to recognize that BP, along with Goldman Sachs (they have the same chairman, Peter Sutherland), is the criminal syndicate which took over our gov't many years ago. They put obummer in office as their puppet spokesman. So, it is up to BP/GS to prosecute themselves. It is a fatal naivete to think the US gov't is not anti-America. They consider us enemies, and they are actively doing something about it, to eliminate most of us by any means possible. Every single action from Washington is against us. Only when we understand this fact will we be able to move on from the status of ignorant victims. We might end up being victims, but we don't have to be ignorant.





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