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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys

by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element
through the engineering of the nano's
mutating/catalysing the AUganism

just thoughts



Are you suggesting that heat is a by-product of half life and the decaying process of isotopes?

here you can check, whether the golf at a certain location is heating up, if you trust the satellite images of course

link: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]



??? !!!!

Oh, my gosh!

The Gulf is cooler than the Atlantic? Am I reading that right? The only "warmish" spot in the Gulf is the oil spill?
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No.

Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should:

[link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]
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2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys

by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element
through the engineering of the nano's
mutating/catalysing the AUganism

just thoughts



Are you suggesting that heat is a by-product of half life and the decaying process of isotopes?

here you can check, whether the golf at a certain location is heating up, if you trust the satellite images of course

link: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]



??? !!!!

Oh, my gosh!

The Gulf is cooler than the Atlantic? Am I reading that right? The only "warmish" spot in the Gulf is the oil spill?


No.

Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should:

[link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 566027

don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so.............
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general info

no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.
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On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.
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Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys

by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element
through the engineering of the nano's
mutating/catalysing the AUganism

just thoughts



Are you suggesting that heat is a by-product of half life and the decaying process of isotopes?

here you can check, whether the golf at a certain location is heating up, if you trust the satellite images of course

link: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]



??? !!!!

Oh, my gosh!

The Gulf is cooler than the Atlantic? Am I reading that right? The only "warmish" spot in the Gulf is the oil spill?


No.

Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should:

[link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so.............
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 979825


Of course I can trust those images. The mere fact tropical storms and powerful hurricanes form is because of the warmth in those very waters. 1+1=2
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2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys

by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element
through the engineering of the nano's
mutating/catalysing the AUganism

just thoughts



Are you suggesting that heat is a by-product of half life and the decaying process of isotopes?

here you can check, whether the golf at a certain location is heating up, if you trust the satellite images of course

link: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]



??? !!!!

Oh, my gosh!

The Gulf is cooler than the Atlantic? Am I reading that right? The only "warmish" spot in the Gulf is the oil spill?


No.

Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should:

[link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so.............


Of course I can trust those images. The mere fact tropical storms and powerful hurricanes form is because of the warmth in those very waters. 1+1=2
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whatever
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You can bet that if there is a problem that TPTB will be manipulating the data so as not to overexcite the populace.
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general info

no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.
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so, the rules are now like this: turn your transponder ON when in harbour (not allowed, so far I have understood) and turn it OFF when you are at sea. oke that makes sense, isn'it ??
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2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys

by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element
through the engineering of the nano's
mutating/catalysing the AUganism

just thoughts



I'll bet it is making the energy it needs to do something real soon.




You 2 are def the brains of the outfit, I wasn't going there at all. :) nice
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thnx bev
but its just speculation;)
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You can bet that if there is a problem that TPTB will be manipulating the data so as not to overexcite the populace.
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until its time to do so!
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no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.

so, the rules are now like this: turn your transponder ON when in harbour (not allowed, so far I have understood) and turn it OFF when you are at sea. oke that makes sense, isn'it ??
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But we do know where it is About now, anyway.

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Edited to change right now to about now

Last Edited by Housedad on 09/17/2010 10:44 AM
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general info

no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.
 Quoting: 1221 1093619

Remember folks there is a major hurricane in the SW GOM at the moment. Many rigs evacuated also. Even here in Houston we are having bands from the storm so I'd imagine the waters are fairly rough in a good part of the gulf.
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no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.
 Quoting: 1221 1093619

yup... no BP ships to be seen over the well site, no BP ships on the list. If we can believe the feeds, it shows at least two BP ships on site. DD2 Rov1 and HOS Achiever Rov2.. are broadcasting live. If they do not show up on Marine Traffic LIVE, then they have turned off their transponders. I know... they have to, by law, keep them on... but they are off and not reporting. Why?
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Hmmm. This may be somewhat relevant to the debate...

[link to www.royalnavy.mod.uk]

Long story short, the Royal Navy are sending their hottest air defence asset to the US Eastern Coast.

Coincidence?
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I hope all is ok over there, got to sleep, almost 1am and got to work tomorrow.
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To clarify a little bit on transponders.. this site will help.
[link to www.suite101.com]
<snip>
Marine AIS Class A Transponders Must Transmit Continuously
The Coast Guard's rules don't just require that commercial vessels carry Class A AIS transponders; the units must be properly installed, function properly and transmit continuously.

The rules allow only one exception to this requirement: "Should continual operation of AIS compromise the safety or security of the vessel or where a security incident is imminent, the AIS may be switched off. This action and the reason for taking it must be reported to the nearest U.S. Captain of the Port or Vessel Traffic Center and recorded in the ship's logbook. The AIS should return to continuous operation as soon as the source of danger has been mitigated. "

Ships experiencing malfunctions of their shipboard AIS units must report the problem to the nearest VTS operations center.

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Hmmm. This may be somewhat relevant to the debate...

[link to www.royalnavy.mod.uk]

Long story short, the Royal Navy are sending their hottest air defence asset to the US Eastern Coast.

Coincidence?
 Quoting: Sanglier 1101486

u think?

“This is a golden opportunity to prove the Royal Navy’s newest capability to integrate and operate effectively with the might of the United States Navy. I’m delighted to be in command on this historic occasion and look forward to working at the top level of naval exercises with our American cousins.”
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I can't find any ships in the Gulf either!!!! Are the transponders off or is something very sinister going on. In the early Summer the methane content of the water around the DWH site was a million times more than it should have been. Who knows what it is now. Is there anyone on the Gulf noticing any unusual activity. The badges on the BP cleanup workers uniforms is worrisone. They appeared about a week ago. Massive fish kills are not normal. Even if the fish ran out of O2 they ahould not have been in shallow waters in such incredible numbers unlass they were driven there by unspeakable conditions in the Gulf! The place is toxic, hell even the dogs won't drink the rainwater, poeple are sick, blood tests for by products of oil are sky high in those who have been tested. This is a nightmare but it is being covered up in a major way. One of these days though I don't think they will be able to cover it up any more. the ramifications will be uncontrollable. IS THERE ANYONE ON THE GULF THAT CAN UPDATE US????
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To clarify a little bit on transponders.. this site will help.
[link to www.suite101.com]
<snip>
Marine AIS Class A Transponders Must Transmit Continuously
The Coast Guard's rules don't just require that commercial vessels carry Class A AIS transponders; the units must be properly installed, function properly and transmit continuously.

The rules allow only one exception to this requirement: "Should continual operation of AIS compromise the safety or security of the vessel or where a security incident is imminent, the AIS may be switched off. This action and the reason for taking it must be reported to the nearest U.S. Captain of the Port or Vessel Traffic Center and recorded in the ship's logbook. The AIS should return to continuous operation as soon as the source of danger has been mitigated. "

Ships experiencing malfunctions of their shipboard AIS units must report the problem to the nearest VTS operations center.
 Quoting: RenegadeSon


imminent danger?
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To clarify a little bit on transponders.. this site will help.
[link to www.suite101.com]
<snip>
Marine AIS Class A Transponders Must Transmit Continuously
The Coast Guard's rules don't just require that commercial vessels carry Class A AIS transponders; the units must be properly installed, function properly and transmit continuously.

The rules allow only one exception to this requirement: "Should continual operation of AIS compromise the safety or security of the vessel or where a security incident is imminent, the AIS may be switched off. This action and the reason for taking it must be reported to the nearest U.S. Captain of the Port or Vessel Traffic Center and recorded in the ship's logbook. The AIS should return to continuous operation as soon as the source of danger has been mitigated. "

Ships experiencing malfunctions of their shipboard AIS units must report the problem to the nearest VTS operations center.


imminent danger?
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Relief wells did intersect...
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imminent danger?

Relief wells did intersect...
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hmmmm
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To clarify a little bit on transponders.. this site will help.
[link to www.suite101.com]
<snip>
Marine AIS Class A Transponders Must Transmit Continuously
The Coast Guard's rules don't just require that commercial vessels carry Class A AIS transponders; the units must be properly installed, function properly and transmit continuously.

The rules allow only one exception to this requirement: "Should continual operation of AIS compromise the safety or security of the vessel or where a security incident is imminent, the AIS may be switched off. This action and the reason for taking it must be reported to the nearest U.S. Captain of the Port or Vessel Traffic Center and recorded in the ship's logbook. The AIS should return to continuous operation as soon as the source of danger has been mitigated. "

Ships experiencing malfunctions of their shipboard AIS units must report the problem to the nearest VTS operations center.


imminent danger?

Relief wells did intersect...
 Quoting: RenegadeSon

you try to say ??
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no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.
 Quoting: 1221 1093619


Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.
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2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys

by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element
through the engineering of the nano's
mutating/catalysing the AUganism

just thoughts



Are you suggesting that heat is a by-product of half life and the decaying process of isotopes?

here you can check, whether the golf at a certain location is heating up, if you trust the satellite images of course

link: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]



??? !!!!

Oh, my gosh!

The Gulf is cooler than the Atlantic? Am I reading that right? The only "warmish" spot in the Gulf is the oil spill?


No.

Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should:

[link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so.............


Of course I can trust those images. The mere fact tropical storms and powerful hurricanes form is because of the warmth in those very waters. 1+1=2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 566027



Do not trust! It is a modeling site and someone's coloring book.
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Apparently at the point of intersection it is possible for a blow back to occur. Before they installed the second BOP there was a definite leakage of oil and gas from the stack and it was worsening. At that point the video feeds pretty much stopped! I can find nothing now and know for sure that something major is being hidden. Is ANYONE finding any ships IN the Gulf? I was wondering whether I might be making a mistake using the link. A week or so ago there were a lot of ships clustered around the DWH. If they are gone the situation HAS to be unsafe. I can't beleive that the ship that drilled the relief well isn't there. What was it's name? Can anyone find it? That might be a clue.


snip-
imminent danger?

Relief wells did intersect...

hmmmm
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Sorry message above in the wrong location.
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Hmmm. This may be somewhat relevant to the debate...

[link to www.royalnavy.mod.uk]

Long story short, the Royal Navy are sending their hottest air defence asset to the US Eastern Coast.

Coincidence?
 Quoting: Sanglier 1101486



At the link:

"The first of the Royal Navy’s new formidable air defence warships, HMS Daring, is busy preparing for her first overseas deployment.

....
She will arrive in Norfolk, Virginia, the largest naval base in the world, later this month to take part in pre-exercise briefings. From there she will conduct work-up exercises with a US Carrier Strike Group led by the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise."


[I post redundant pieces out of links to help compensate for a tendency for some links to go 404.]
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no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.


Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.
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Can't confirm or deny history. I do see quite a few tankers and cargo vessels (ocean-going ships) anchored toward the right of the screen. Seems like the hurricane issue could be in play.
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no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.


Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.


Can't confirm or deny history. I do see quite a few tankers and cargo vessels (ocean-going ships) anchored toward the right of the screen. Seems like the hurricane issue could be in play.
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They are mostly anchored WELL INLAND!!!!!!!!!!
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no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

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That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.


Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.


Can't confirm or deny history. I do see quite a few tankers and cargo vessels (ocean-going ships) anchored toward the right of the screen. Seems like the hurricane issue could be in play.
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can you give me a link which hurricane(s) you are talking about and threatening the watertraffic, in the Golf?
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