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CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!

 
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so sad.
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They must have died from food poisoning. <sarcasm>
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So, splain to me again why I should volunteer to help clean up this mess?
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Every time i posted the CNN video before i had some comment in my thread within the first 5 minutes saying something like, "That reports is BS because me and my friends were part of the clean up crew for the Exxon Valdez and we are still kickin."
So so glad the truth comes out and anyone in the Gulf please take this seriously!
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So, splain to me again why I should volunteer to help clean up this mess?
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So you can die a painful lingering death?
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6,723 clean-up personnel.
Almost ALL of those workers now DEAD!


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okay how come CNN telling the truth while refusing to tell the truth about Obama's birth ceft.?

I find it odd that 6,000 people sick and died, where is the proof, i need to see the bodies first

This sounding more like a progandga machine to make the oil spill more realism to stay away and scare people away so they will not see the REAL truth of the oil leaking?
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the shills will come,wait for it..wait...for...it...
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hmmm that seems a higher percentage of deaths than the people who cleaned up Chernobyl.
What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look.

We're all gonna die. The only question is when & how you check out. Do you want it on your feet? Or on your knees... begging?! I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothing!
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
Inflammatory and inaccurate, sorry.

I live in Alaska. My hub worked on the spill, as did many others who I know personally. My hub oversaw upwards of 100 people in his crews, and no one died during his work there. There were a few minor accidents, but mostly normal summer colds is all. He was very careful to make sure that all people wore the appropriate gear, no exceptions-but perhaps that was not always followed, I don't know. I was working just out of Anchorage during that time and my boss wouldn't let me take the time off to go work it myself. (IOW, he wouldn't hold my year round position for me if I quit and went anyway ;))

Yes, some have died-its been over 20 years now, of course people die. According to my hub, a great many of the workers were well over 25, not kids at all. Yes, some people got sick. THe majority did not become ill, other than what the crowded living conditions would cause-just like any other place where a bunch of people (and their viruses) are crammed together.

The thread title is not even close to the truth. If it were, it would be a big subject here, considering what is happening to the GOM. Our local media has been on the "bash the oil companies" bandwagon for years now, and surely they would be all over this like white on rice.

Having said the above, I will say that its only logical that some people would become very ill, its a given. The psychological effects were more profound and long lasting, however-which is part of why I am beyond furious about what has happened with the spill to date.

A great many people died while Exxon stalled the court battle over the settlement. 20 years they fought it in court.
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
She does NOT say that almost all the clean-up crew is dead.

Ya'll may WANT to believe it, but it just ain't so.

She says that alot of the clean-up crew has died, and there is 100% disability among those she is STILL treating.

I'll agree that crude and dispersants are HIGHLY toxic, but the title of this thread is total BS.
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She does NOT say that almost all the clean-up crew is dead.

Ya'll may WANT to believe it, but it just ain't so.

She says that alot of the clean-up crew has died, and there is 100% disability among those she is STILL treating.

I'll agree that crude and dispersants are HIGHLY toxic, but the title of this thread is total BS.
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Did you watch the entire video?
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Agree with AC3760. And yes I watched the video.

First, no way to identify who is speaking, its from a CNN clip.

From my recollection, what she said was: 6723 people had upper respiratory illness. That some were now 100% disabled. She did not want to see that happening in the GOM.

Now, be danged if I can recall whether or not any dispersant was used up here...I do know they tried to light the stuff on fire using lasers which was unsuccessful. Keep in mind that the crude the Exxon spilled is very different from what is washing ashore in the GOM. And, our waters are much colder too-it was a thick, gooey mess....sort of like molasses.

Interesting about the average age of death, I wonder what the statistics really say about their demise. The clear implication is that they are all going to die at around age 51. Which puts the median age at around 30 for the Exxon workers.
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Gotta throw some support behind AC1013800: I lived in Valdez for 5 years, and I'm still alive and kicking!

Although, in fairness, I did not assist with the cleanup of Exxon.
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
She does NOT say that almost all the clean-up crew is dead.

Ya'll may WANT to believe it, but it just ain't so.

She says that alot of the clean-up crew has died, and there is 100% disability among those she is STILL treating.

I'll agree that crude and dispersants are HIGHLY toxic, but the title of this thread is total BS.

Did you watch the entire video?
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The Dr. is believable. The CNN reporter, is, well, a CNN reporter.
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
She does NOT say that almost all the clean-up crew is dead.

Ya'll may WANT to believe it, but it just ain't so.

She says that alot of the clean-up crew has died, and there is 100% disability among those she is STILL treating.

I'll agree that crude and dispersants are HIGHLY toxic, but the title of this thread is total BS.

Did you watch the entire video?


The Dr. is believable. The CNN reporter, is, well, a CNN reporter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973760


Good point.
Yes, the doctor is very believable. I've watched several of her videos. Scarey times...
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Gotta throw some support behind AC1013800: I lived in Valdez for 5 years, and I'm still alive and kicking!

Although, in fairness, I did not assist with the cleanup of Exxon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1016675


Corexit is good for you. Don't believe the hysterical tree hugging nutjobs.
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So, splain to me again why I should volunteer to help clean up this mess?
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Your not. Your supposed to work on the real problem. Impeachment and forced resignation in DC.
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They must have died from food poisoning. <sarcasm>
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They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
Every time i posted the CNN video before i had some comment in my thread within the first 5 minutes saying something like, "That reports is BS because me and my friends were part of the clean up crew for the Exxon Valdez and we are still kickin."
So so glad the truth comes out and anyone in the Gulf please take this seriously!
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Agents, shills, call them what you like, they play here too.
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They must have died from food poisoning. <sarcasm>





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What a lying fucking scumbag!
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
Inflammatory and inaccurate, sorry.

I live in Alaska. My hub worked on the spill, as did many others who I know personally. My hub oversaw upwards of 100 people in his crews, and no one died during his work there. There were a few minor accidents, but mostly normal summer colds is all. He was very careful to make sure that all people wore the appropriate gear, no exceptions-but perhaps that was not always followed, I don't know. I was working just out of Anchorage during that time and my boss wouldn't let me take the time off to go work it myself. (IOW, he wouldn't hold my year round position for me if I quit and went anyway ;))

Yes, some have died-its been over 20 years now, of course people die. According to my hub, a great many of the workers were well over 25, not kids at all. Yes, some people got sick. THe majority did not become ill, other than what the crowded living conditions would cause-just like any other place where a bunch of people (and their viruses) are crammed together.

The thread title is not even close to the truth. If it were, it would be a big subject here, considering what is happening to the GOM. Our local media has been on the "bash the oil companies" bandwagon for years now, and surely they would be all over this like white on rice.

Having said the above, I will say that its only logical that some people would become very ill, its a given. The psychological effects were more profound and long lasting, however-which is part of why I am beyond furious about what has happened with the spill to date.

A great many people died while Exxon stalled the court battle over the settlement. 20 years they fought it in court.
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So how many of the 6723 cases did your husband followup with over the last 21 years?

How many did he personally treat medically then? And now?
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
Gotta throw some support behind AC1013800: I lived in Valdez for 5 years, and I'm still alive and kicking!

Although, in fairness, I did not assist with the cleanup of Exxon.


Corexit is good for you. Don't believe the hysterical tree hugging nutjobs.
 Quoting: Tony Hayward 891916



OK Tony, why don't you drink a few bottles of it, then have a nice crude oil facial and get back to us?
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
Nasty nasty nasty stuff, I worked for weeks cleaning one up for Veco at Prudhoe in 77. Wiffing that stuff for weeks will make you damned tired and crazy mean. I almost killed a coworker with a shovel because I thought he wasn't working fast enough.
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Re: CONFIRMED by Marine Toxicologist - Almost All Exxon Valdez Cleanup Crew Dead!!!
Some people can't read or hear for content.

The 6723 was evidently reported cases of an upper respiratory illness. (Reported to who, exactly? The state? The feds? Where did this number originate? I can assure you there is no physician in Valdez who has that sort of case load-in 1989, I am not even sure there were 6700 people in the whole town. And who did she mean when she said "we saw this with Exxon Valdez"?)

It does not say what percentage of all spill personnel became ill. (There were over 10,00 people directly involved in the clean up, and thousands more in support roles)

It does not state over what length of time this figure was amassed. (Six weeks? Six months? Includes the second year clean up efforts? Five years down the road? Does the "upper respiratory illness" include common colds, flu, and other viruses, or is this illness directly attributed to the spill?)

It does not state that 100% of the 6723 people are now 100% disabled. (The person clearly states that "some" are 100% disabled, but since the video is clipped/edited there is no way to be sure that she meant "as a result of working on the Exxon Valdez oil spill in 1989)

The "Nearly all Exxon Valdez workers are dead" phrase originated with the CNN bimbo reporter.





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