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Anyone Abstaining here?? If so, Why

 
Earthangel2012  (OP)

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07/10/2010 10:18 PM
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My bad, thought we were going to talk about Absinthe.
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i can talk about that... i done some research on it.. i found some stuff that many may not know
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07/11/2010 12:31 AM
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Wife has announced that we need to talk, which the recent 3 months, has forewarned me cannot be a good thing. I can't see me going back into the dating scene and though I am a healthy, good looking 39 year old I see abstaining as the only prudent choice.

I will not introduce confusion with serial monogamy into my sons' lives. they do not need to meet, attach to and lose a series of other people in their lives. I've seen too many kids damaged by such things.

Besides I cannot see myself cruising bars or anywhere else desperately looking for a warm body to share for a time. I'd rather talk to you people.

Ladies, the whole "its not me" thing is hurtful, honestly. Us guys (and I'm sure ladies as well) hear something entirely different when such words are spoken.


I probably should start another post, but has anyone here ever found therapy successful in repairing a relationship?



rant
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07/11/2010 12:32 AM
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Seriously.. i am. I have no idea why. Over a year.
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07/11/2010 06:26 PM
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Seriously.. i am. I have no idea why. Over a year.
 Quoting: Hawk0


That's not bad.

Being alone right now seems pretty ok a choice. I guess.
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

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The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

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Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus
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07/11/2010 07:25 PM
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I have for a long, LONG, L O N G time now by choice alone. Really have no idea why either, just did. Never even gave it much thought till now either. Hmmmm past time to go shopping,...it will be 11 years exactly in 2012.

No wonder I've been singin' to the cows,.... cool2
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Everything is subject to continually changing variables, leaving nothing to remain as a constant.]D)one!!!!
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07/15/2010 08:10 AM
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:dubya:
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

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The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

--

Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus
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07/15/2010 09:30 AM
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... sex, it just seem, [well, not really digusting for me] kind of un natural for me ... Even imaginging do it makes me uneasy and uncomfortable so i avoid it as much as i can. Its kinna hard to avoid it given the smut that's all over everywhere but i manage. It seems everywhere you turn there's a trap set to corrput our minds and distract us from thinking, studying and researching more meaninful things..
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Why did you choose that avatar?
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07/15/2010 09:46 AM
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Seriously.. i am. I have no idea why. Over a year.
 Quoting: Hawk0

I think humanities "biological clock" is windng down.

Old mother earth is reaching maximum density and piling on population at this point is merely adding insult to injury.

I always wondered why the first thing Adam and Eve did after consuming the forbidden fruit was to cover their genitals with fig leaves. Maybe the Tree of Knowledge opened our "sex drive" gene, changing sex from a procreation act into something more....or less, depending on your perspective?
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07/15/2010 09:51 AM
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Reviewing, I think I hold the record so far. I need a couple wayward women, or 3, to resolve this issue.
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Everything is subject to continually changing variables, leaving nothing to remain as a constant.]D)one!!!!
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to have control over my energies and powers. i masturbate when i chose in the manner i chose. if i have sex with a person i am controlled by them or am controlling them.
before you know it it's 25 years latter and i'm beating someone over the head or am being beaten over the head with a grill cleaning brush over being five minutes late from the store and i/we weigh 250 pounds and have realised that life is complete shit,and i'm now unfuckable and can't fuck
and i stink like apples and 70 year old sweat. all because i wanted to have sex one day.
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to have control over my energies and powers. i masturbate when i chose in the manner i chose. if i have sex with a person i am controlled by them or am controlling them.
before you know it it's 25 years latter and i'm beating someone over the head or am being beaten over the head with a grill cleaning brush over being five minutes late from the store and i/we weigh 250 pounds and have realised that life is complete shit,and i'm now unfuckable and can't fuck
and i stink like apples and 70 year old sweat. all because i wanted to have sex one day.
 Quoting: going down... 860951


Yeaaaaup !!!!

Paint that picture prior to intercourse,....

Yes ][nd33d !!!!
Theories: Misconceptions awaiting confirmation of incorrectness.
Everything is subject to continually changing variables, leaving nothing to remain as a constant.]D)one!!!!
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th€bbo

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to have control over my energies and powers. i masturbate when i chose in the manner i chose. if i have sex with a person i am controlled by them or am controlling them.
before you know it it's 25 years latter and i'm beating someone over the head or am being beaten over the head with a grill cleaning brush over being five minutes late from the store and i/we weigh 250 pounds and have realised that life is complete shit,and i'm now unfuckable and can't fuck
and i stink like apples and 70 year old sweat. all because i wanted to have sex one day.
 Quoting: going down... 860951


Yeah this is what I'm trying to avoid too. But it doesn't have to be that way....
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

-

The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

--

Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus
angel22
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07/16/2010 04:16 AM
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Yes. My husband left me. Not interested in signing up to be lied to again. I don't have extra-marital relations, so that doesn't leave any other options.

I can't survive another betrayal.
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I am so hearing you girlfriend.
Anonymous Coward
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07/16/2010 04:20 AM
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Yes, because I don't want to have to change for some woman.
Anonymous Coward
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07/16/2010 04:23 AM
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Look my friends.

it all comes down to this:

we intuitively know that fire burns, and yet we still feel tempted to stick our finger into the flame. and we only give up repeating the same mistake after we are "burnt" enough.

this is just how things work.

we are attracted to danger, to new exciting experiences. it's in our nature; we cannot escape from it.

there are people who actually like to be corrupt, who actually like to repeat the same mistake over and over again.

there are others who TRY not to repeat their old mistakes but keep running into new ones.

finally, there are those who TRY not to commit ANY mistake IN THE FIRST PLACE. -- that is the ideal I urge you to adopt.

even though we cannot escape from our erratic nature, it doesn't mean we should give up and surrender ourselves to it. the battle is never over. in practice you could be losing the battle, but you should NEVER give up in your mind.

there are many forces in this world trying to get humans to devolve into the lowest of animalistic behavior.
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... sex, it just seem, [well, not really digusting for me] kind of un natural for me ... Even imaginging do it makes me uneasy and uncomfortable so i avoid it as much as i can. Its kinna hard to avoid it given the smut that's all over everywhere but i manage. It seems everywhere you turn there's a trap set to corrput our minds and distract us from thinking, studying and researching more meaninful things..

Why did you choose that avatar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1000007


YEAH!!! I'm really curious as well! You're talking about abstinence but you got a SEXY, MUSCULAR black dude with seductive pubes nearly showing AS AN AVATAR. It's really odd and hilarious! LOL :)
th€bbo

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07/18/2010 10:17 AM
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there are others who TRY not to repeat their old mistakes but keep running into new ones.

finally, there are those who TRY not to commit ANY mistake IN THE FIRST PLACE. -- that is the ideal I urge you to adopt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1037406


Making mistakes is part of the learning process. Without mistakes, there is no learning. You want people to try to stop learning. Why? Are you afraid?
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

-

The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

--

Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus
th€bbo

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07/18/2010 01:57 PM
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Yes, because I don't want to have to change for some woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1020345


Ditto.

But we're changing constantly, one woman there makes no difference.

Yet still, I'm reluctant of turning my head to the direction others point me.
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

-

The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

--

Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus
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07/18/2010 01:59 PM
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Still.. no one worthy coming into view.

I've a feeling this could last forever. I'm now realizing I may be celibate the rest of my life.


such a waste.
Anonymous Coward
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07/18/2010 02:04 PM
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I guess there's no point in caring about what I look like, fixing my hair, makeup and all that.. Nobody cares anyway.

No one notices me.
th€bbo

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I guess there's no point in caring about what I look like, fixing my hair, makeup and all that.. Nobody cares anyway.

No one notices me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035850


TRUE CHANGE


B: Write on your list, to be me, to be me, that's the only thing that
appears on your list.

Q: I know that's all I have to do; I just still physically want things.

B: To be ME! Write it on the list, to be me.

Q: Got it.

B: All right, now, listen: all the things that you refer to as your
career, they are not your career. Any goal you want, that you have listed
before, it is not your goal. Projects, things, whatever they may be, they
are not what you want. You have only one career, you have only one goal,
and that is to be you. THAT is your career, that is your *purpose*, it is
your mission, it is your path, it is the ONLY thing that you need to do, is
to be you. Now how you choose to express being you, may be many of those
things you wrote on that list. To sing, to act, to do this, to do that, to
do this project, to do that project, so on and so forth, but they are not
your goals, they are not your career. You are your career, you, you, you,
that's it; it is the only one you have ever had, have now or will ever
have. All of you, it's the only career you have, the only point in being
this you is to be this you as fully as you can.

So all of these ideas that you typically call careers, goals, these are
simply /modalities/ of expressing the career of being you, that's your
career. These are just ways of expressing it, that's all they are, that's
all they are; they are not things to be attracted, they are modes of
expressing the joy of being you. There is no reason to do them other than
that, there is no reason to do them because you think that doing it will
bring you something. That is short-circuiting their ability to do so. You
do not do the things you do because they will have an effect; you do the
things you do because they are the result, they are the effect of being
fully you.

Q: Well, I guess what it is is that I want a life that is different than
doing anything mundane whatsoever...

B: Listen to your /definition/; there is no such thing as a boring
situation.

Q: I know it's my perception of it.

B: Yes it is, and I understand what you mean, but all you have to do is
just be you, believe me, knowing you, it will be unlike anything else's
likeness. So if you spent the time and energy worrying that you might
accidentally do something that is mundane, where do you think all of your
energy is going? Into being mundane.

Q: Into being mundane.

B: Yes, and that is still only being created by your definition of it, it
still only /appears/ to be mundane because that is where your focus is.
So let all that go, you don't have to /try/ to avoid being mundane, just be
yourself and you'll be ecstatic and everything in your life will be
reflective of being ecstatic. It can not be by definition any other way if
you're just being you, the true you cannot, by definition, be mundane to
you. The only way you can experience the so-called block or, what you are
calling, stretches of mundane time are because you are trying to avoid
creating them and thus, paradoxically, you fill your life with that.

Q: I know.

B: Because you are thinking that you have to cross that gulf to get to
/something/ that represents an ability to finally express who and what you
are; when all you have to do is just express who and what you are in
whatever way you want to. But don't make those things the goals, it is not
a goal to be able to express yourself that way, it is your natural spin-off
expression of just being you, it will unfold naturally if you just be you.
And every moment, whatever situation is presented to you, just be YOU as
best you can in that situation, and everything will spin off and unfold and
opportunities will come to you that will allow you to continue to express
yourself in ways that are representative of YOU!

Q: Actually I do that a lot of the time and there are a lot of wonderful
things happening.

B: I know that you have chosen to do that, the question is, why don't you
allow yourself to always do that? Because you have a definition that says
there should be gaps. You have a definition of things that creates the
appearance of gaps, blocks, whatever you want to call them.

Q: I have to work hard to pay for the things that I want, probably?

B: Did I say that?

Q: No, but I'm saying... I'm trying to think what that block or belief
might be.

B: All right, you are attempting to define the idea.

Q: I couldn't just manifest that without some work, you know some ethic
involved or something.

B: Remember this, again, whatever classically, colloquially might, oh
well, by some people on your planet, perish the thought, be defined as work
and might actually be enjoyable to you, sometimes.

Q: It is.

B: Then trust that only those forms of work that won't be "work" to you
will be what your kit contains. Again, you are attempting to think of
yourself as a collection of parts that have to somehow be forced together
to work correctly, when you already work flawlessly if you would just let
yourself do so. By discontinuing to assume that you could contain
something superfluous that gets in your way, an extra component that would
force you to have to do something that isn't natural to get what is
naturally yours, that doesn't make any sense. You understand?

Q: Yes.

B: It does not make "creational" sense that you would have to do something
that isn't part of your ecstasy to create ecstasy in your life. It makes
no sense.

Q: I know and I just can't make that shift, that little....

B: Yes, you can.

Q: Well, I WILL. You bet I will.

B: I'm not going to bet on it. The idea is, however, is that you need to
really see every single moment as a part of your ecstasy and not an
interruption in it, no matter how it appears.
Remember the first, as you
say, rule of thumb, you can not discern that you have changed by keying off
how your reality looks, you have to determine you have changed by how you
respond to your reality, no matter how it looks.
Then is when you will
allow your reality to *reflect* the true change that you are willing to
demonstrate, by responding according to way you prefer to, no matter how it
works, that's the paradox. If you really keep reacting the same way
because it keeps looking the same, you haven't really changed. But if you
choose to respond differently, because you know you are different, that is
what makes the difference in reality, that's what allows it to shift. But,
as soon as you say, "Oh, I didn't get what I expected, I thought I was
different, I thought I had changed, but I didn't see what I wanted to see,
OUT THERE."

Q: No, I realize the world of effect, and believe me there have been some
major changes in terms of my perception...

B: Oh, I believe you.

Q: ...and I just have more work to do that's all.

B: I am not discounting what you have been able to understand, but you are
the one that raised the issue.

Q: I want it /all,/ that's all.

B: You are all of it, you are all of it, notice the differentiation, I
didn't say, "you have it all."

Q: No.

B: I said, "you are all of it." You have to allow, here's the paradox,
you have to allow /what is/ to be perfect before /what is/ can become something
more. If you don't love yourself as you are, TOTALLY, UNCONDITIONALLY, you
cannot become the next you. And, unconditional doesn't mean
unconditionally except for this one condition. It means unconditionally,
you must accept what is, before what is can transform into what will be, or
what the next what is, can be.

Q: OK, thank you so much.

B: We thank you.
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

-

The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

--

Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus
Nostrad00mus

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I'm not completely abstaining, but when you come to the realization that you are, very literally, shooting your lifeforce out of the end of your dick every time you cum, you start to get a little more picky about when & where... if you know what I mean.
domesticangel

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Yep hi

Once you find there's something better, plain ol ordinary sex just doesn't do it for you anymore.

You realize how much it drains you and you give your power away.

I also learned ALOT more than just body fluids are exchanged during sex. Besides STD's, there's parasites of different kinds. It also allows for spirit attachment, you can wind up with some pretty nasty demonic entities.
It pays to know just who you let into your personal space (ie your auric field).
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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Yep hi

Once you find there's something better, plain ol ordinary sex just doesn't do it for you anymore.
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So, what is there?
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

-

The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

--

Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus
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I guess there's no point in caring about what I look like, fixing my hair, makeup and all that.. Nobody cares anyway.

No one notices me.


TRUE CHANGE


B: Write on your list, to be me, to be me, that's the only thing that
appears on your list.

Q: I know that's all I have to do; I just still physically want things.

B: To be ME! Write it on the list, to be me.

Q: Got it.

B: All right, now, listen: all the things that you refer to as your
career, they are not your career. Any goal you want, that you have listed
before, it is not your goal. Projects, things, whatever they may be, they
are not what you want. You have only one career, you have only one goal,
and that is to be you. THAT is your career, that is your *purpose*, it is
your mission, it is your path, it is the ONLY thing that you need to do, is
to be you. Now how you choose to express being you, may be many of those
things you wrote on that list. To sing, to act, to do this, to do that, to
do this project, to do that project, so on and so forth, but they are not
your goals, they are not your career. You are your career, you, you, you,
that's it; it is the only one you have ever had, have now or will ever
have. All of you, it's the only career you have, the only point in being
this you is to be this you as fully as you can.

So all of these ideas that you typically call careers, goals, these are
simply /modalities/ of expressing the career of being you, that's your
career. These are just ways of expressing it, that's all they are, that's
all they are; they are not things to be attracted, they are modes of
expressing the joy of being you. There is no reason to do them other than
that, there is no reason to do them because you think that doing it will
bring you something. That is short-circuiting their ability to do so. You
do not do the things you do because they will have an effect; you do the
things you do because they are the result, they are the effect of being
fully you.

Q: Well, I guess what it is is that I want a life that is different than
doing anything mundane whatsoever...

B: Listen to your /definition/; there is no such thing as a boring
situation.

Q: I know it's my perception of it.

B: Yes it is, and I understand what you mean, but all you have to do is
just be you, believe me, knowing you, it will be unlike anything else's
likeness. So if you spent the time and energy worrying that you might
accidentally do something that is mundane, where do you think all of your
energy is going? Into being mundane.

Q: Into being mundane.

B: Yes, and that is still only being created by your definition of it, it
still only /appears/ to be mundane because that is where your focus is.
So let all that go, you don't have to /try/ to avoid being mundane, just be
yourself and you'll be ecstatic and everything in your life will be
reflective of being ecstatic. It can not be by definition any other way if
you're just being you, the true you cannot, by definition, be mundane to
you. The only way you can experience the so-called block or, what you are
calling, stretches of mundane time are because you are trying to avoid
creating them and thus, paradoxically, you fill your life with that.

Q: I know.

B: Because you are thinking that you have to cross that gulf to get to
/something/ that represents an ability to finally express who and what you
are; when all you have to do is just express who and what you are in
whatever way you want to. But don't make those things the goals, it is not
a goal to be able to express yourself that way, it is your natural spin-off
expression of just being you, it will unfold naturally if you just be you.
And every moment, whatever situation is presented to you, just be YOU as
best you can in that situation, and everything will spin off and unfold and
opportunities will come to you that will allow you to continue to express
yourself in ways that are representative of YOU!

Q: Actually I do that a lot of the time and there are a lot of wonderful
things happening.

B: I know that you have chosen to do that, the question is, why don't you
allow yourself to always do that? Because you have a definition that says
there should be gaps. You have a definition of things that creates the
appearance of gaps, blocks, whatever you want to call them.

Q: I have to work hard to pay for the things that I want, probably?

B: Did I say that?

Q: No, but I'm saying... I'm trying to think what that block or belief
might be.

B: All right, you are attempting to define the idea.

Q: I couldn't just manifest that without some work, you know some ethic
involved or something.

B: Remember this, again, whatever classically, colloquially might, oh
well, by some people on your planet, perish the thought, be defined as work
and might actually be enjoyable to you, sometimes.

Q: It is.

B: Then trust that only those forms of work that won't be "work" to you
will be what your kit contains. Again, you are attempting to think of
yourself as a collection of parts that have to somehow be forced together
to work correctly, when you already work flawlessly if you would just let
yourself do so. By discontinuing to assume that you could contain
something superfluous that gets in your way, an extra component that would
force you to have to do something that isn't natural to get what is
naturally yours, that doesn't make any sense. You understand?

Q: Yes.

B: It does not make "creational" sense that you would have to do something
that isn't part of your ecstasy to create ecstasy in your life. It makes
no sense.

Q: I know and I just can't make that shift, that little....

B: Yes, you can.

Q: Well, I WILL. You bet I will.

B: I'm not going to bet on it. The idea is, however, is that you need to
really see every single moment as a part of your ecstasy and not an
interruption in it, no matter how it appears.
Remember the first, as you
say, rule of thumb, you can not discern that you have changed by keying off
how your reality looks, you have to determine you have changed by how you
respond to your reality, no matter how it looks.
Then is when you will
allow your reality to *reflect* the true change that you are willing to
demonstrate, by responding according to way you prefer to, no matter how it
works, that's the paradox. If you really keep reacting the same way
because it keeps looking the same, you haven't really changed. But if you
choose to respond differently, because you know you are different, that is
what makes the difference in reality, that's what allows it to shift. But,
as soon as you say, "Oh, I didn't get what I expected, I thought I was
different, I thought I had changed, but I didn't see what I wanted to see,
OUT THERE."

Q: No, I realize the world of effect, and believe me there have been some
major changes in terms of my perception...

B: Oh, I believe you.

Q: ...and I just have more work to do that's all.

B: I am not discounting what you have been able to understand, but you are
the one that raised the issue.

Q: I want it /all,/ that's all.

B: You are all of it, you are all of it, notice the differentiation, I
didn't say, "you have it all."

Q: No.

B: I said, "you are all of it." You have to allow, here's the paradox,
you have to allow /what is/ to be perfect before /what is/ can become something
more. If you don't love yourself as you are, TOTALLY, UNCONDITIONALLY, you
cannot become the next you. And, unconditional doesn't mean
unconditionally except for this one condition. It means unconditionally,
you must accept what is, before what is can transform into what will be, or
what the next what is, can be.

Q: OK, thank you so much.

B: We thank you.
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I probably should start another post, but has anyone here ever found therapy successful in repairing a relationship?



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I don't think anyone has ever found therapy successful for anything.

If you can't communicate with your mate then your relationship is doomed from the start.
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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I used to Abstain, but stopped. Ever try scrubbin fake tan from your Ab's?? Hard fucking work i tells ye.......
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So, what is there?
 Quoting: th€bbo


Seek, and ye shall find!


Tantra, for starters.
Then you can move into "otherworldly" practices such as Astral sex.

You just have to want more than what we have been taught.
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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One of the best parts of this FUBAR school called LIFE.. iS SEX :)

Hot sex, cold sex , dirty sex, sweaty sex, muddy sex, fireplace sex, in a tree sex, under water sex, bedtime sex, good morning sex, lunch quickie sex, beach sex, rain sex, train sex, drunk sex, hours of sex, mere seconds of sex.

The list is very long , but if your here on earth anyways , might as well have a GREAT TIME at it :)
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So, what is there?


Seek, and ye shall find!


Tantra, for starters.
Then you can move into "otherworldly" practices such as Astral sex.

You just have to want more than what we have been taught.
 Quoting: domesticangel


The thing is, I might want more than I can get someone to provide.

I mean, I have been seeking. And then there's this endless cycle of blaming myself for not succeeding in anything I want when I fail. And then it starts over. Try. Fail. Square one.

I'm just so full of that shit. I'm just so sick and tired of failing. I just wanna get on with my life. Apparently that is too much to be asked for.
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

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The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

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Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus





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