Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 990 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 83,655
Pageviews Today: 221,186Threads Today: 97Posts Today: 2,376
03:40 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Possible revelation of significance of 11:11

 
YOU CITY LOOP
User ID: 834627
United States
07/01/2010 08:38 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
I SEE 11 11 ALOT. IM CONVINCED OF IT. NOT SURE WHAT IT MEANS THOUGH.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1001673
United States
07/01/2010 08:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
this shit's old. keep up people!

-13
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 964953
United States
07/01/2010 08:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
this shit's old. keep up people!

-13
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001673


very very old....

the oldest....


the original name for God = EL
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1001673
United States
07/01/2010 09:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
this shit's old. keep up people!

-13


very very old....

the oldest....


the original name for God = EL
 Quoting: Sugarelf


i know, elf.

-r4
Truthseekr

User ID: 928852
United States
07/02/2010 02:15 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
this shit's old. keep up people!

-13


very very old....

the oldest....


the original name for God = EL
 Quoting: Sugarelf

and isnt the Original - ancient- very First sound/name of God== "OHM" ? sanskrit i believe. and the symbol. i think that dates back the furthest.. or one of the furthest... i think God isnt a being we can chat with commonly- but rather a energy source we have to Connect to... then FEEL rather then Speak.. imo
Truthseekr

User ID: 928852
United States
07/02/2010 02:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
this shit's old. keep up people!

-13


very very old....

the oldest....


the original name for God = EL

and isnt the Original - ancient- very First sound/name of God== "OHM" ? sanskrit i believe. and the symbol. i think that dates back the furthest.. or one of the furthest... i think God isnt a being we can chat with commonly- but rather a energy source we have to Connect to... then FEEL rather then Speak.. imo
 Quoting: Truthseekr

God- Devil. connect to the Devil you get material wishes- from THAT energy source.... but its not the Creation source... just a mimicking source.... connecting to GOD source results in a positive life here- then eternal life beyond here.... just my opinion..
OneMind

User ID: 1018702
United States
07/02/2010 02:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
11:11

Its the start of something new.

If you are seeing 11:11, you have awakend, you are part of the revalation.

Kymatica
OneMind

User ID: 1018702
United States
07/02/2010 02:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
this shit's old. keep up people!

-13


very very old....

the oldest....


the original name for God = EL

and isnt the Original - ancient- very First sound/name of God== "OHM" ? sanskrit i believe. and the symbol. i think that dates back the furthest.. or one of the furthest... i think God isnt a being we can chat with commonly- but rather a energy source we have to Connect to... then FEEL rather then Speak.. imo

God- Devil. connect to the Devil you get material wishes- from THAT energy source.... but its not the Creation source... just a mimicking source.... connecting to GOD source results in a positive life here- then eternal life beyond here.... just my opinion..
 Quoting: Truthseekr


Very true but I try to remember:

There are no enemies external to our own mind.

This is one of the most difficult problems to understand, and-ssimple as it sounds-it penetrates the depths of creative causation.

Nothing can happen to us unless it happens through us. That whitch we refuse to accept, to us cannot be, and that whitch to us is, cannot help becoming a reality in our lives.

But someone will say, "I did not conceive of this evil which came upon me; it was not in my mind." The question then arises, "Can any particular evil be real to one, if he refuses to entertain it in his thought?"

The answer must forever be, it cannot.

This is one of those "hard sayings" which it is difficult to understand, but the principle involved is plain.

If we can divorce our lifes from the thought of evil-from receptivity to it- if we can bring our mentality to a place where it no longer conceives evil, then evil cannot exist for us.

The proof of this doctrine remains for individual conviction, through experience, but it is well worth trying.

There is only one Mind/Conciousness. Lets all use it.
moshpit
Kymatica
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1017054
United States
07/02/2010 06:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
this shit's old. keep up people!

-13


very very old....

the oldest....


the original name for God = EL

and isnt the Original - ancient- very First sound/name of God== "OHM" ? sanskrit i believe. and the symbol. i think that dates back the furthest.. or one of the furthest... i think God isnt a being we can chat with commonly- but rather a energy source we have to Connect to... then FEEL rather then Speak.. imo

God- Devil. connect to the Devil you get material wishes- from THAT energy source.... but its not the Creation source... just a mimicking source.... connecting to GOD source results in a positive life here- then eternal life beyond here.... just my opinion..
 Quoting: Truthseekr



See and the further proof of 11 is how we are getting our info from the same higher source!! the things you guys say sound like things I would say....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 222101
United States
07/02/2010 06:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
11:11

Its the start of something new.

If you are seeing 11:11, you have awakend, you are part of the revalation.

 Quoting: OneMind

So what are we supposed to do?
blacksand
User ID: 960437
United States
07/02/2010 07:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
I started seeing this so often I got rid of my digital clock. Truth, I killed it with a hammer.
In the past few day's while researching the oil disaster I have seen it on my computer clock. When I saw 12:12 last night I gave up and went to bed. This freaks me out. I have searched for explanations and can't find any.
Maybe this is old but finding that there are people out there that see the same things gives me hope of finding an explanation.
Truthseekr

User ID: 928852
United States
07/02/2010 09:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
this shit's old. keep up people!

-13


very very old....

the oldest....


the original name for God = EL

and isnt the Original - ancient- very First sound/name of God== "OHM" ? sanskrit i believe. and the symbol. i think that dates back the furthest.. or one of the furthest... i think God isnt a being we can chat with commonly- but rather a energy source we have to Connect to... then FEEL rather then Speak.. imo

God- Devil. connect to the Devil you get material wishes- from THAT energy source.... but its not the Creation source... just a mimicking source.... connecting to GOD source results in a positive life here- then eternal life beyond here.... just my opinion..


Very true but I try to remember:

There are no enemies external to our own mind.

This is one of the most difficult problems to understand, and-ssimple as it sounds-it penetrates the depths of creative causation.

Nothing can happen to us unless it happens through us. That whitch we refuse to accept, to us cannot be, and that whitch to us is, cannot help becoming a reality in our lives.

But someone will say, "I did not conceive of this evil which came upon me; it was not in my mind." The question then arises, "Can any particular evil be real to one, if he refuses to entertain it in his thought?"

The answer must forever be, it cannot.

This is one of those "hard sayings" which it is difficult to understand, but the principle involved is plain.

If we can divorce our lifes from the thought of evil-from receptivity to it- if we can bring our mentality to a place where it no longer conceives evil, then evil cannot exist for us.

The proof of this doctrine remains for individual conviction, through experience, but it is well worth trying.

There is only one Mind/Conciousness. Lets all use it.
moshpit
 Quoting: OneMind

i agree. manifest your own reality hf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 889802
United States
07/02/2010 09:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
Hello GLP...for the past several years, I've noticed this increase in attention drawn to cell phone, microwave, tv and digital clock. Always, the 11:11 or 10:11 or 1:11, etc. appearing. This ofcourse got my attention and I started to research it. Well, in few words, I've never been the same. I'm completelly a new person. As if something, or someone, inside of me has awakened or was triggered to initiate...something(?). As I've posted in other threads here, I've also had some visions, some posted here, other personal that have come to pass.

This morning, once more, I hear a voice that told me, that for those that see 11:11 or same numbers including zeros, we are *correction* BEING CALLED UPON, and that we will definately (without a doubt) be "Abducted" (other meaning for removed from this Earth..in some manner)...It (the voice) did not say "raptured" clearly it was abducted. More importantly, we are to talk, guide, shine the light on, what ever you want to call it...we are to bring others to the light or rather, we are to WAKE others up before its too late, so they too can be liberated from this World (dimension).

Again, don't shoot the messanger, I'm just doing my duty and posting what I heard. I am not saying this is true. I will say, that I NEVER in my wildest imagination, thought that seeing 11:11 would mean that! Could it be possible? Who else out there thought of this possible meaning? I'm curious to find out whether someone out there has thought of this as a possible reason why so many around the world are seeing this.

Please do not judge my vision, but please post your thoughts. 1dunno1
 Quoting: PurpleskyDragonfly



I've been told that there will be great suffering, but not for me. No further info. Maybe I'm a gonner.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1023175
United States
07/02/2010 09:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
11And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

[link to bible.cc]
Saimin

User ID: 905163
United States
07/02/2010 09:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
For more than twenty years I have been seeing 3:33 and 4:44 on my digital clocks. I have never been sure of the meaning.

Upon seeing these numbers I would instantly feel an electricity fire in my brain and my thoughts would be focused on something I can't describe, something unkown to me.

I haven't seen these numbers on clocks in a few years. Right about the time I began to see 11:11 and more commonly 1:11.

Now I don't know about anyone else hear, but when I see 11:11, I feel a little uneasy, anxious, and ever scared.

When I see 1:11, I feel at ease, relived, and even happy.

I still don't know exactly what these numbers mean to me, on a personal level.

If it means abduction, where are we being taken to? Will it be pleasant for me?
Kill eye ~ a fiery retreat from the stars.......
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1023363
United States
07/03/2010 01:21 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
"We" (myself incl) have failed and I repent.
 Quoting: PurpleskyDragonfly



My take is that 11:11 means REPENT.

Time is short. Ask HIM for forgiveness and get in HIS favor.

I have been seeing all the time also.
Truthseekr

User ID: 928852
United States
07/03/2010 01:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
"We" (myself incl) have failed and I repent.



My take is that 11:11 means REPENT.

Time is short. Ask HIM for forgiveness and get in HIS favor.

I have been seeing all the time also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1023363

i dont think its as simple as shouting out "help me" and God comes to the rescue. you have to show the source your a pure spirit- and CONNECT to the source- in order to progress.. connecting on a DEEP level through mediation and being Healthy... respecting your Temple/Vehicle for this realm of experience
Sandi_T

User ID: 873093
United States
07/03/2010 07:42 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
"We" (myself incl) have failed and I repent.



My take is that 11:11 means REPENT.

Time is short. Ask HIM for forgiveness and get in HIS favor.

I have been seeing all the time also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1023363


You are almost right. It's definitely a call for you to repent. Repent from believing in the evil god-monster of the bible, and open your mind to the reality of a Loving God who does not torture people, will not torture people, and could not torture people.
No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf:

Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 852638
Malta
07/03/2010 08:02 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
I initially started to see a lot 10:10. After that I've been seeing frequently 1:11, 11:11, 2:22, 3:33, 4:44, 5:55.

I don't know what they meant at the time but the fact that after a while I noticed that something wasn't normal about them, I thought that these numbers must mean something.

It all started 2 years ago.

What i found out was that such numbers are telling us that we are in the right path. Of course I'm open to more suggestions, and the 'abduction' thing is really cool. :)

I think in this case abduction would mean that the chosen ones will be transferred to another planet or stay in their spaceship till Earth cleanses and heals itself.
Truthseekr

User ID: 928852
United States
07/03/2010 11:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
woke up at 11:11 today from a dream. it was interesting
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1023363
United States
07/03/2010 08:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
I changed also... big changes..
How I think changed.

how I see others has changed.
I see everyone as versions of me.
I see the world like I see myself
I changed the way I eat also.

-peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1020888


+1
I became a vegan when I started seeing 11:11 or vice versa..cant remember but both at same time
PurpleskyDragonfly  (OP)

User ID: 782136
United States
07/04/2010 12:07 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
HERE is what I believe to be true and expected from us that started to pay attention to 11.

In a revelation today, I came to accept that this is indeed what we are to do, starting NOW.

We must start with OURSELVES, correct?

Family, mend all broken situations around you. Arguements, grudges, hardships with Families..apologize, reconsile even if it wasn't your fault. Reconnect with your family, take the initiative and seek unity. Call more often, visit more often, say I Love you more often...forgive and forget all misunderstanding or differences.

Friends, New and Old, present and past, same as above. Give a helping hand to those in need, even if all you can do is listen and provide a shoulder to cry on. Assist your friends with their personal problems...enlighten them..you have the ability to council, trust in yourself.

Co-workers, the good ones and bad ones, stop all gossip that comes to your ears, apologize for misunderstanding, help others even if its for free and out of simple kindness. Lift your peers spirits, motivate, bring the positive energy to your workplace, its contagious.

Strangers, smile, say Hi, help the elderly and the young. Council the children, love them, pay attention and PLAY. visit the elderly at nursing homes, start small talk with the elderly..they are treasure chests.

It all starts with US, within US...every day, do Good. You are responsible for yourself ONLY..

This I have known to be true...I started to do this when I started this thread and it is Amazing! I know I am on track, now I see 11's numerous times per day. Miracles and Blessings are pouring down. People are noticing something in me, and they want to feel it too. I've even had a co-worker tell me today, they kept seeing 11s this day.

Is it rubbing off? Does this gift and energy get passed on? I believe with all my heart that it Does, and it is pleasing our Creator!

Besides this, I haven't received any other visions or dreams...as of now.

Yours truly, Dragonfly
Truthseekr

User ID: 928852
United States
07/04/2010 12:48 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
i agree dragonfly!!!!!!!

like someone once said- be the change you want to see in the world.... thats because you HAVE to BE the change- if you want to SEE that change around you... we create reality... everything starts within- even transformation of molecules- EVERYTHING that changes begins Within its how energies work.... The spirit is PURE-- change your Mind/Thought process first. then your healthy/internal workings= then external changes- then further external changes- and further- and further- until we all live ina complete harmonic and balanced place of Oneness into POsitives.... the other brainwashed people that choose to stay behind can create their own hell... hf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1017054
United States
07/04/2010 10:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
the 144,000 are rsponsible for spreading light and love, and the 11eners are most likely apart of those 144. We have been through so much, but kept going and not weakening and not treating others lik shyt just because we ar going through hard times. We are the example, and our future starts with us.
TCS
User ID: 1022929
Canada
07/04/2010 10:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
Shit. I knew it, I almost got abducted mid day but fought it off, it wasn't aliens IMO though, I was napping at the time. Woke up it was 2:11. Also I felt man extreme power afterwards. A darkness though.

Was this a sleep paralysis? If so, its occurred to me many times, and at that particular time, which I find odd, because its my BDAY Feb 11.

If so, I understand, that was a terrible, ugly feeling of hopelessness. I thought I was going to die. Truthseekr, any ideas what this could of been. I've always heard, "The Fear of GOD"...any thoughts? anyone?
 Quoting: PurpleskyDragonfly



Just stop for a few moments and think about meeting a Spirit that was/is so powerful that it has no beginning and no end, so powerful that just with the Word He was able to create all that can be seen or ever will be seen, A Spirit that knows all things and nothing can be hidden in His presence. Would you not fear such a Spirit?

"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"

Proverbs 1:7
PurpleskyDragonfly  (OP)

User ID: 760472
United States
07/04/2010 10:52 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
Shit. I knew it, I almost got abducted mid day but fought it off, it wasn't aliens IMO though, I was napping at the time. Woke up it was 2:11. Also I felt man extreme power afterwards. A darkness though.

Was this a sleep paralysis? If so, its occurred to me many times, and at that particular time, which I find odd, because its my BDAY Feb 11.



Just stop for a few moments and think about meeting a Spirit that was/is so powerful that it has no beginning and no end, so powerful that just with the Word He was able to create all that can be seen or ever will be seen, A Spirit that knows all things and nothing can be hidden in His presence. Would you not fear such a Spirit?

"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"

Proverbs 1:7
 Quoting: TCS 1022929


The EXACT same thing occurred to me, many many times and my birthday is also FEB 11..how amazing..this cant be a coinsidence..there is definately great truth to this. bump
pleiades
User ID: 872134
United States
07/04/2010 11:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
I know there are many of us who see 11:11 everyday, including myself. I *believe* that it is a DNA program that has turned on and the 11:11 is a message.
11:11 also brought me to this website and person
[link to www.firethegrid.com]
Fire the Grid
Read her story. She tells of the story of 11:11 and the beings that speak to her.

As I write this, I SEE THAT THE TIME ON MY COMPUTER IS 11:11 :-) Wonderful intent!



..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1024789
Germany
07/04/2010 11:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
i see 11:11 every morning ,where ever i go and my wife sees 9:11 ..wtf? I dont know OP i will wait and see BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT i am also changed into a positive person, i like to help other people and i am always excited to meet positive people at the same time if you fuck with me i fuck you up..i guess i still need to find the balance between good and bad...

finding the balance is a challenge i think thats part of Why we are here.. to find the balance the harmonic balance... many of us stil have negative things happen- but we recognize them as negative- and thats a HUGE step in the right direction
 Quoting: Truthseekr



i agree....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1019543
United States
07/04/2010 12:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
Hello GLP...for the past several years, I've noticed this increase in attention drawn to cell phone, microwave, tv and digital clock. Always, the 11:11 or 10:11 or 1:11, etc. appearing. This ofcourse got my attention and I started to research it. Well, in few words, I've never been the same. I'm completelly a new person. As if something, or someone, inside of me has awakened or was triggered to initiate...something(?). As I've posted in other threads here, I've also had some visions, some posted here, other personal that have come to pass.

This morning, once more, I hear a voice that told me, that for those that see 11:11 or same numbers including zeros, we are *correction* BEING CALLED UPON, and that we will definately (without a doubt) be "Abducted" (other meaning for removed from this Earth..in some manner)...It (the voice) did not say "raptured" clearly it was abducted. More importantly, we are to talk, guide, shine the light on, what ever you want to call it...we are to bring others to the light or rather, we are to WAKE others up before its too late, so they too can be liberated from this World (dimension).

Again, don't shoot the messanger, I'm just doing my duty and posting what I heard. I am not saying this is true. I will say, that I NEVER in my wildest imagination, thought that seeing 11:11 would mean that! Could it be possible? Who else out there thought of this possible meaning? I'm curious to find out whether someone out there has thought of this as a possible reason why so many around the world are seeing this.

Please do not judge my vision, but please post your thoughts. 1dunno1
 Quoting: PurpleskyDragonfly


O+, born on the summer solstice 6/21, irish/pictish descent, looked up my real ancestry (was adopted) and birth father's surname is the pictish name on the irish king's list, may be some basque/atlantean lineage there and wondering if any of the rest of you have that bloodline if indeed there's anything to the bloodline crap

I had pretty much the same experience as you, OP. And some others.

Have any of you other 11:11ers had:

blue light experience - seems like downloads of information coming into the brain to access at an unknown future time

test dreams where your moral character is tested, as in what do you do in this situation, somebody harms you how do you react from an instinctual level

odd dreams that stand out to you where family members, either alive or deceased or both, try to get you to do something you're reluctant to do, like a party and they're all there egging you on to do something, sign something

dreams where you're being flashed symbols as in learning a new alphabet or language

speaking in another language in your sleep

lessons: have you had any lessons, ufo flying lessons are of particular interest

has anybody told you in a dream that they're related to you and you don't know them, told you they're coming to get you, pick you up

do you have chi energy flowing through you, healing energy

are people magnetized towards you for reasons you can't understand, like some people just react badly to you for no reason, strangers may seek you out to be rude, antagonize you, and likewise others will want to be near you and you don't understand any of the attention because it's unwarranted in a normal context; it's as if they feel something is different about you and can't help but react

have you been shown earth changes or a disaster from the sun

were you what's considered today to be a gifted child

did you have night terrors or bizarre dreams as a child, odd things you and your parents couldn't understand

what is your personality like, are you one of the good guys who always seems to do the right thing no matter what's going on, like you can't help but do the right thing even when it's hard, even when it doesn't benefit you one bit, do you feel protective of others, stand up for others, etc

* * * * * *

Yeah, they showed me that some people are going to be taken because something fiery is going to happen to our planet, that the test dreams were the only fair way to pick who to lift off

I don't like to believe it. I don't 'go there' very often, it makes me want to scream inside - the horror of it.

I try not to think about it, hope it's less than what they're thinking will happen

I don't know. I'd rather be bonkers than have anything bad happen. Don't know why I got this stuff, but all the dream crap happened after I saw a UFO back in jan of '96 and continued for years.

I won't believe any of the dreams/stuff until the moment it happens, and I refuse to count on anything, including being a 'chosen' - the ramifications are horrible and it eats me up inside

I think the 11:11 is to get us to pay attention, as are the synchronicities. the day will come when we have to pay attention and follow the synchronicities, to what I have no idea
][nfeRnaL
User ID: 635878
United States
07/04/2010 12:09 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Possible revelation of significance of 11:11
While on this quest for knowledge on the 11:11 prompt, please keep this in mind.
What is correct for one is not always correct for all.
One man's ideas or feelings on any subject may not be correct at all, just another's POV.
While acquiring information on this 11:11 subject, or any for that matter, merely take in the input and sort out what is right for you later. Do not make hasty calls on another's POV about any subject especially this one.

Follow no man on a quest for self. Keep your mind's eye open and seek the knowledge for one's self truths. If you take another's words as facts for you then soon both are faltering along a misguided path. Sheep follow while the shepherd leads the flock. A misguided shepherd will lead his flock to danger. Best to point in all directions for the flock to look at than to try and lead them incorrectly. being a light, you can shine outward in all directions and allow the flock to choose their paths on their own. A light is better choice many times than being a shepherd or one of the flock. Shine the light of knowledge allowing all to choose their own destiny.

Again follow NO MAN, and this includes me. When you see others saying "This is what it means I am the one or I know" these are truly the lost shepherds, remember that. Educate yourselves openly on the subjects you seek knowledge of and let your own self guide your paths to what is best for you,...and all you know.

My own II cents on this.





GLP