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The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.

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I can feel it, I can smell it, I can taste it, I can SEE it... You are not waiting for it... The promised land is waiting for you. You need only open your heart, let your fear fade, your greed dissipate. This life and everything in it belongs to each of us. The gates are unlocked, the code deciphered, the puzzle complete.


*deep breath* Peace at last, Peace at last, dear God almighty Peace at last.
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Thy will be done




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glad to see you all are still back and forthing in here.

it seems the nobody's friends are beginning to beef up.
the ball gains momentum.

just wanted to pop in to say that...I'm off to make waffles


haha!!! the movement is accelerating!!!
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Good evening, London. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of the everyday routine, the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration - whereby those important events of the past, usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, are celebrated with a nice holiday - I thought we could mark this November the fifth, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.
There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now orders are being shouted into telephones and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?


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Tonight the Nobody would like to sing a little diddy he calls 411 remix.

Locked and loaded, the battlefield is ripe... There shall be peace in our time.

*breathe in* *breathe out* *breathe in* *breathe out*

The air tastes good tonight gentleman, calm and clean... I sense a storm brewing on the horizon...

If the Nobody does not return please tell his stolen bride that he loves her.
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glad to see you all are still back and forthing in here.

it seems the nobody's friends are beginning to beef up.
the ball gains momentum.

just wanted to pop in to say that...I'm off to make waffles


haha!!! the movement is accelerating!!!



Good evening, 999. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of the everyday routine, the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration - whereby those important events of the past, usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, are celebrated with a nice holiday - I thought we could mark this November the fifth, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.
There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now orders are being shouted into telephones and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?



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More than four hundred years ago, a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice and freedom are more than words - they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest that you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek...then I ask you to stand beside me, one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament. And together, we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever, be forgot!


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Remember Remember the Fifth of November!

Isaiah 9



6For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder, and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.



God is our government, God is our King!



Romans 13:1-7



Respect for Authority

Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. The authorities are God's servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God's servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience. Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do. Give to everyone what you owe them: Pay your taxes and government fees to those who collect them, and give respect and honor to those who are in authority.



God is our government we must respect God and the laws that God has put in place to rule over EVERYTHING. What laws has God put into power? What Authority has God placed into power to rule over all? God has placed the laws of physics, the laws of nature to govern literally everything in existence.



What might God mean when he says to obey that which he has placed in power? Well, what has God put in power? The laws of nature, the laws of physics, those unchangeable things which he has created. God says he's more than happy to help you out when you need it, but if you step outside of a window on the 12th floor you're gonna pay for it.



Time is money. How does one obtain money? By selling their TIME. The only thing we have in this life is our time to live this life and it is up to each of us to decide what it is we wish to spend our time on.



If God is the government then what might he mean when he asks you to pay your taxes? If time is money then perhaps he is asking you to spend a little bit of your time on him. I believe he is asking us to spend some of our time every now and again studying him and his creations. Should you choose to spend some time studying the mating habits of the wild Mustang or the seasonal flow changes in the pacific then you'd be spending time on God and his creations, you'd be paying your taxes.



God loves us and he has given us the freedom to choose between good and evil. He told us that he is good and that men are sinners(evil). We chose to be ruled by men(evil).



God gave us his rules and they sound pretty good to me. Thou shalt not Kill or steal and such. Very simple, easy to follow, and quite obvious to be honest. Our governments today have added their own rules, tens of thousands of their own extremely complicated and intrusive rules.



Mark 7



6He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.



7Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.



8For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.



9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.



When a baby is born he is born exactly as God created him, perfect. That child then enters the world created by man where the child is beaten, starved, laughed at and judged until the child is no longer a creation of God's, but a creation of Man's instead. Because of this that child grows up to be sinful. The rules and regulations man has created destroy God's creations and replace them with his own creations.



God said that in the end all would worship the Anti-Christ, that all would pay homage to the Anti-Christ which is a tool of Satan which is evil. God told us that God is good and Man is sin. Today the world is ruled not by the word of God, but by the rules and laws of Man which is sin which is evil. Today the world is ruled not by Good, which is God, but by evil, which is Man which is sin.



The Anti-Christ, evil, rules over all the land and all the people today. Obey only God's laws, his commandments and the laws of nature/physics that he has put in place to rule over all, the laws of men are evil and go against the word of God.



Anti is short for antithesis which means opposite so the Anti-Christ is literally the opposite of Christ. Let's take a look at the ruler of the world today, the upper class, and how he compares to Christ:



Christ - Peaceful

Upper Class(UC) - makes war, only the upper class has the power to declare war, only the upper class are rulers of nations.



Christ - Acceptance

UC - Exclusive



Christ - Humble

UC - Greedy/Boastful



Christ - Poor

UC - Rich



Christ - Advocate of GIVING

UC - Advocate of buying and selling
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But the fruit of the Spirit is

love,
joy,
peace,
long suffering,
gentleness,
goodness,
faith,
meekness,
temperance:

against such there is no law.
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*lol*

eat this to ur brittish stiff upper lipper pudding!!




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Intro:Richmond Virginia 804 Stand Up!
Its ya Deity Aton Ra
Sirius Star System I see you!

Verse 1:
Been asleep for awhile now I'm REJUVENATED/
IAM Illuminati,Why? cause I'm ILLUMINATED/
a lotta people is happy to see my CREW DONE MADE IT/
just ask the Lightworkers bout me "DUDES MY FAVORITE"/
ILLUMINATION means ONE WITH DIVINITY/
who doesn't love God? everyONE SHOULD BE FEELING ME/
tired of the fakeness, WANNAS BE KILLING ME/
All about Truth, ONE OF THE REALEST G/
O-D's, SLOWLY, give yall whatchu GONE NEED/
but I'nt wannna say too much, cause yall could O.D./
Overdose, Overload off INFORMATION/
the way I'm bout to set flames, youda thought that SEND IN SATAN/
If you dont like what I'm saying, GIVE ME SPACE THEN/
cause I'm talking to the so-called ADMINISTRATION/
Government Officials,yeah them MEN BEEN WAITING/
to hear what I gotta say I see theyve BEEN IMPATIENT/

Hook/Chorus:
IAM Illuminati, IAM Illuminati,
IAM Illuminati,Why? cause I'm Illuminated

IAM Illuminati, IAM Illuminati,
IAM Illuminati,Why? cause I'm Illuminated

Verse 2:
Here to set the record str8 lotta muthafuckas LYING/
Pleadians,Nordics, muthafucking LYRANS/
Man I'm so SIRIUS, I aint from ORION/
Reason I'm so FURIOUS Imma muthafucking LION/
Hell yeah Imma LEO, who CURSE LIKE MOSES/
Im usually real PEACFUL, you the FIRST TO NOTICE/
my SHADOW SIDE got BATTLE RHYMES to MURK APPROACHERS/
bang yo head to this track till it BURST YO NOSES/
Richmond Virginia's wheres A-T-O-N FROM/
Oracles be yelling OUT "HES THE CHOSEN ONE"/
you wonder why my MOUTH full of TEETH THATS GOLDEN ONES?/
Symbolic for the Sun and I BE THE GOLDEN SUN/
Master Number like MUSSILINI, YUP ITS GOIN DOWN PARTNA/
Raising your KUNDALINIS UP TO YOUR CROWN CHAKRAS/
Kundalinis=Spiritual SNAKE IN YO BODY/
Raise em up to the top you wont be HATING NOBODY/

Hook/Chorus:
IAM Illuminati, IAM Illuminati,
IAM Illuminati,Why? cause I'm Illuminated

IAM Illuminati, IAM Illuminati,
IAM Illuminati,Why? cause I'm Illuminated

-Aton Ra Horus 2010 © All Rights Resevered ™

Beat:Dipset Ft. Jr Writer, Hell Rell - The Pit (Produced By Knoxbonik)
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Presenting the "figurine":


I look kind off like this



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I feel like this --

especially for me and my second coming beloved One




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Does she have a spiral scar on her lower stomach?
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I have many scars -
but one special is placed exaly where Jesus was pierced
by Spear of Destiny. the scar tissue looks like binary code.


Revelation 21:3-4 – “And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, ‘Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.’”
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I AM dwelling

my name is 1188

that is a code

linked to PYRAMID (KJV BIBLE) and ALOT more like

YVHV

and Shekinah - the divine feminine

Metatron - and The Angel of The ARC/ARK OF COVENANT:




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Where are THE/MY KNIGHTS OF THE 21:st century?
Thread: KNIGHTS OF THED 21st CENTURY

Did you hear my calling??
Thread: I'm Calling


Answer me.


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Thread: we know who you are swenemcdonald

Think not that he has no watchers.
Think not he has no friends.
Think not he has no family.
Think not he is alone.
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Dear Lord..

just saw this

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]



God, Im burning..

Im please asking someone - post here


what is happening....... I am so sory

but the pain is unbarable


I feel iM COLLAPSING and dying

heart is breakingm body protesting


I am fantasising of asking them to ... sedate me or

completely just exit.

Dear God Jesus Christ, you know me

I would NEVER post like this if it wasnt crucial.

now I saw thois




I might pass out, Im so sorry, so sorry..

forgive me for crying out.


Want to see the shadow that tortures me?


I will upload on imageshack...

u who know will know...



its... like Im the POINT of a laser attack

it is targeted to the brain/neck-part "ATLAS" -

"carrying the world on its shouder2"?


i cant upload the x-rays, but u who know already knows.

*gasp*

will it get worse?

I hope I can "stand" this pain,

and my heart will cope...
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Dear WS, i will pray with you Lord YAHshua/Jesus, help WS and heal (her?),show how uch you Love WS and then strengthen WS to be able to do with/in You, what You have called WS to do , amen Father
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Miss You, Been Missing You, for SO L0NG now!!!!
LOVE YOU SO SO SO SO SO MUCH!!!! rose

Westlife - What about now?




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SLEEPING SATELLITE - SPACE



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Sleeping Satellite

I blame you for the moonlit sky
and the dream that died
with the eagle's flight
I blame you for the moonlit nights
when I wonder why
are the seas still dry?
Don't blame this sleeping satellite

Did we fly to the moon too soon?
Did we squander the chance?
In the rush of the race
the reason we chase is lost in romance
and still we try
to justify the waste
for a taste of mans greatest adventure.

I blame you for the moonlit sky
and the dream that died
with the eagle's flight
I blame you for the moonlit nights
when I wonder why
are the seas still dry?
Don't blame this sleeping satellite

Have we got what it takes to advance?
Did we peak too soon?
If the world is so green
then why does it scream under a blue moon?
We wonder why
the earth's sacrificed
for the price of its greatest treasure


I blame you for the moonlit sky
and the dream that died
with the eagle's flight
I blame you for the moonlit nights
when I wonder why
are the seas still dry?
Don't blame this sleeping satellite

And when we shoot for the stars
what a giant step
have we got what it takes
to carry the weight of this concept?
Or pass it by
like a shot in the dark
miss the mark with a sense of adventure

Don't blame this sleeping satellite

I blame you for the moonlit sky
and the dream that died
with the eagle's flight
I blame you for the moonlit nights
when I wonder why
are the seas still dry?
Don't blame this sleeping satellite




Beautiful images of the mystery and vastness of space.
All images are from Nasa and the Hubble telescope.



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Major announcements due for mid-November, legal action against illuminati possible this week


Posted by benjamin
October 25, 2010

Events are starting to unfold at an accelerating pace as the ancient "New World Order" continues its collapse. First of all, sources in Japanese military intelligence say there will be "huge announcements" sometime in mid-November, no doubt linked in part to the November 11th G20 meeting in Korea.

The other big move is that the $1 trillion lawsuit involving Daniele Dal Bosco, the P2 Freemason lodge, the Davos forum and the UN will be backed by the Pentagon and will become public news possibly as soon as this week. We have also confirmed that all members of the Bilderberger, the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations have been individually warned and are "very scared."

There is very little detail about the November announcements available at present because a high level purge of the top ranks of the Satan worshippers is still underway, according to a dragon family representative. The Japanese military police also refused to provide more detail so, we will just have to wait and see.

However, the Dragon family did say they were allied with "good aliens" who were horribly mistreated in the 1940's and that they have been working on the current coup at a high level for a very long time. Hopefully the announcement will involve the release of suppressed technology.

The Pentagon's ambassador to the White Dragon Society has previously mentioned that according to the American Academy of Science that over 6,000 patents have been suppressed for "national security reasons" and that these patents will now be mostly made available to the general public. The Dragon family also says "we have incredible secret technology at our disposal." We will just have to wait and see for more details.

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THE MESSENGER





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Blessed warm smiles Your way -

I'll check in again!


Love You!!!!!!! This is a trying time -

but without the shadows,
we wouldnt "see" in this dimension.

As WE SHIFT - so will "the others".

I'll explain more soon.

Thank You All, deeply.

Dont fear death or the conflicts -

"IT" is cleaning out inflammation.

I explain more tomorrow.



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;)


Thread: Something is Coming - and it is Rewriting the Science Our Entire System - Only to Wipe it Clean (Page 28)



Something is coming. Does NASA know about this ‘something’? Well, yes they do, but only to a certain extent. Everyone thinks that NASA has all the answers and that they know everything but for some reason or another has decided to keep quiet. I believe there is a lot out there that NASA and the other space agencies like the ESA and JAXA are clueless about. After all, the universe is immense beyond belief, and possibly infinite. My belief is that these space agencies keep quiet because they do not know everything, and therefore they refuse to disclose certain subjects, discoveries and events until they have a firmer grasp of the situations or discoveries.

They are in a quandary. What if an event comes along that has never been explored by modern science? What of newly made discoveries that were thought to be impossible, yet are manifesting in our own solar system, and quickly? And what if these events are hard to ‘see’ with present equipment, present satellites and telescopes, present technology? A vast problem arises. Nothing is set in stone. The event can cause completely unknown processes in our solar system to begin taking place. The solutions to these processes are out of reach, even to NASA. Even the time-frame as to exactly when the processes will begin influencing terrestrial changes is impossible to track down. Why? Not enough data and not enough time to accumulate data.

Besides, if the event is truly known to be coming, why say anything to the world? The telling, would most likely result in chaos and anarchy, and if by chance it didn't cause a complete shut-down of civilization, why take that chance?

I ask you to imagine the predicament. Objects can be invisible in space. Energies can be invisible in space. And this includes a massive moving celestial ‘system’ of some unforeseen sort. So when satellites and telescopes and energy detecting equipment shoots incomplete data back to earth to be studied by scientists, there are huge invisible areas of the subject being studied. Are they seeing it all? Are they seeing only 1% of it? Are they seeing 75% of it? There is no way to tell! They cannot figure out the exact mass or composition of this incoming celestial system. They cannot tell the extent of it, and worst of all, they cannot tell the extent of influence it will have to our solar system, to our sun.

Something has entered our solar system. And the majority of its system is something that modern science had thought could not exist. It is a stream of discoveries that are hinting at a celestial anomaly that is currently rewriting foundational concepts on how our solar system interacts with interstellar space. And, it is much, much too close. There are going to be changes. This is not prophecy, it is not imagination, it is not science fiction.

The research I have put together is a pure collection of scientific articles. There is a celestial system that has moved into our solar system. The full extent of this system cannot be determined because the majority of this string of events lies outside scientific knowledge and data gathering. It is affecting the planets and moons of the solar system, especially the outer planets, and has been for at least the last decade or more. It is a body of increased, dense energy kept together by magnetics…and much, much more. The most pressing concern is the affect it will have on our sun, and it has arrived at the worst possible moment, that is when our sun is heading towards a solar maximum cycle that is, in and of itself, already predicted to be the most active cycle that modern man has and will experience: Solar Cycle 24. To put it mildly, it has the capability of causing a sustained electro-magnetic pulse across the entire Earth, for months, years, decades, centuries… for millennia.

:two: :five: :kuiper: :rayincr: :saa: :whatthe:
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the answer is in post 5

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THERE ARE HUNDRED THOUSAND ANGELS HERE TONIGHT!!

Thread: Space Myseries - Giant UFO Spheres Detected Around Our Sun, and more X-files


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Starting something, thought it could be fun
I started something, couldn't go wrong

Danger, heartache, i'd always knew
There's no winner, in this game you lose

But I still wanna know how she got in the door uninvited

Oo-ooh I got a rocket
Oo-ooh you're going on it
Oo-ooh you're never coming back

This is secrets, stories unfold
Flow by pleasure, losing control

Danger, heartache, something has died
No good pretending, i'm leaving this time

But I still wanna know how she got in the door uninvited

Oo-ooh I got a rocket
Oo-ooh you're going on it
Oo-ooh you're never coming back


Oo-ooh I got a rocket
Oo-ooh you're going on it
Oo-ooh you're never coming back

You're never coming back
You're never coming back again no no
You're going out on your own

You're never coming back
You're never coming back again oh no
You're going out on your own

Oo-ooh I got a rocket
Oo-ooh you're going on it
Oo-ooh you're never coming back

Oo-ooh I got a rocket
Oo-ooh you're going on it
Oo-ooh you're never coming back
(you're never coming back)

5-4-3-2-1
We have lift off



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Listen -



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Dr Manhattan (Watchmen) - I can't change human nature



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Star Wars The Force Unleashed 2 E3

Cinematic Betrayal Trailer.



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I guess not all Atom Bombs are bad eh?

The Life of a Mirror:

Eh... Ho hum. Good days and bad days just like anybody else. Pretty promising lately.

It seems most people have a tendency to shriek and run away when they see their own reflection.

I'm not a superstitious person, but I wouldn't recommend trying to break this mirror... It bites back.
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YEEEEEEHAAAAW This is the life ain't it?



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I... Love... This... Job!
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All Angels have seen the face of God,
that puts their punishment as being greater than the punishment that is for the ones who have never seen the face of God
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
All Angels have seen the face of God,
that puts their punishment as being greater than the punishment that is for the ones who have never seen the face of God
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Rather figured as much on the first part. I suppose if you're punishing yourself it's up to you, then again it might be up to the government, that oh so just government.

Ya know what lifts me up when I'm feeling down? Thinking 'bout the future.
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Nathanael is Punishment incarnate.
His punishments do not disturb the Symphony; they're a part of it.
He may exact any retribution against a deserving individual without causing any disturbance.

Special Rites: Punish someone who deserves it; there is no limit to the number of times per day Nathanael can use this Rite.

Nathanael is an Old Testament-style angel of the Lord, the kind that makes mortals rightly tremble in fear.
As fanatically militant as a Malakite, as relentless as a Cherub, and as implacable and unforgiving as a Triad of Judgment, the Angel of Punishment is Gabriel's mightiest Seraph, and quite simply one of the baddest angels around. He scares other angels, he scares demons . . . he even scares Habbalah.

Nathanael was the first of Gabriel's Servitors to lead her campaign to punish the cruel.
He was so zealous that he soon earned the Word of Punishment.
Dominic approved, for this was long before Gabriel's trial and exile from Heaven.
The Archangel of Judgment recognized Nathanael's efficiency in eradicating sin, and often called on him to exact vengeance for evils his own Servitors had uncovered.
In time, he even granted Nathanael the Heavenly Judgment attunement, and likely would have granted him a Distinction as well.
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Kohlberg's stages of moral development...

"3. A PERSON CANNOT COMPREHEND MORAL REASONING AT A STAGE MORE THAN ONE STAGE BEYOND THEIR OWN.
For example: Children (age 5-10) tend to be self-serving. They lack respect for the rights of others but may give to others on the assumption that they will get as much or more in return. It is more a matter of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours," instead of loyalty, gratitude, or justice. Motto: "What's in it for me?"



A person cannot understand moral reasoning more than one stage beyond her/his own. But a person can understand moral reasoning in lower stages; except that he/she would consider such reasoning too elementary."


Why some of you can not understand the nobody, if there is one, is because this person is more than likely at a higher moral stage of development than you are, but not because he is smarter, but because he has focused on morality since the day he was born.

Such a person was contemplating the fairness of life, or lack of it, at the age of four, while many of you were contemplating how to get to the cookie jar.

You can speed up your development, but to do so, you have to let go of your pride, your need to be special.

I want you to be where I am. I want you to be where this nobody is.

I want you to help me or him make the world a better place.

I want you to succeed in the real good you are trying to do.

If you want to be where this nobody is, and thus, closer to understanding God who is above him, then you need to study the levels of moral development and apply them.

"Stage 1 - Obedience and Punishment
The earliest stage of moral development is especially common in young children, but adults are also capable of expressing this type of reasoning. At this stage, children see rules as fixed and absolute. Obeying the rules is important because it is a means to avoid punishment.

Stage 2 - Individualism and Exchange
At this stage of moral development, children account for individual points of view and judge actions based on how they serve individual needs. In the Heinz dilemma, children argued that the best course of action was the choice that best-served Heinz’s needs. Reciprocity is possible, but only if it serves one's own interests.

Stage 3 - Interpersonal Relationships
Often referred to as the "good boy-good girl" orientation, this stage of moral development is focused on living up to social expectations and roles. There is an emphasis on conformity, being "nice," and consideration of how choices influence relationships.

Stage 4 - Maintaining Social Order
At this stage of moral development, people begin to consider society as a whole when making judgments. The focus is on maintaining law and order by following the rules, doing one’s duty and respecting authority

Stage 5 - Social Contract and Individual Rights
At this stage, people begin to account for the differing values, opinions and beliefs of other people. Rules of law are important for maintaining a society, but members of the society should agree upon these standards.

Stage 6 - Universal Principles
Kolhberg’s final level of moral reasoning is based upon universal ethical principles and abstract reasoning. At this stage, people follow these internalized principles of justice, even if they conflict with laws and rules."

[link to psychology.about.com]

There is a stage 7, and while Kohlberg was working on it, he had not come to a complete conclusion, nor one that actually fit his paradigm, ...So I ask you, can you figure out what it is? If not, I will explain it ten pages from now, and yes, it is a leap, a definite stage.

To see what Kohlberg thought stage 7 would be, you can google "Some Thoughts About Kohlberg's Stage 7 by Anne Garvey." I found the pdf form to be simple, and concise, but as I stated above, it does not fit the paradigm. Kohlberg's problem was not looking ahead, he simply didn't look up, his ego got in the way. Like many human beings, he didn't want to acknowledge that there might be some person in the universe who was more powerful than he was.

I hope you don't have the same problem.
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Live your life in a manner in which you choose. Allow others to live their life in a manner in which they choose. Social consensus... Open window toss out.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
When the Nobody was in fourth or fifth grade he had a conversation with a friend. He spoke of how much war and bloodshed there was in the world and was amazed that people were so concerned about the thickness of their toilet paper.

Literal.





GLP