I am a 32nd degree MASON & a Knight Templar - Ask me a question

Would it not be more authentic to stand on your own two feet in a conversation rather than hide behind the old "most of us at GLP.." hat trick?

If you mean to say that you YOURSELF know about "Aleister Crowley" and Albert Pike's involvement in the Masonic culture
then you are not saying much to me yet imo. That is a VERY general statement to make.

What specifically do you mean to say about that? What do you know personally to be true about those subjects?

Trust me, I am very familiar with all the old canards that have been passed around regarding Freemasonry. Seeing if any of those things were true for myself was the primary reason I joined.

In my own experience I have found absolutely nothing immoral about Freemasonry as an institution or with the Mason's I know personally. I of course cannot speak about any one individual's actions who might have been a Freemason that I do not personally know.

You must also define the word MORAL and from what belief system you are basing that definition on.

Eh, when I tried to join they told me I had to pay a yearly fee and work for them every month, not my kind of thing.

If you are only a 32nd degree we really can't learn anything from you as you haven't learned anything yet.

The knights want a Papal apology nearly 700 years after they were disbanded and hounded into exile
By Ruth Gledhill
November 29, 2004

“The Knights Templar officially ceased to exist in the early 1300s, but the order continued underground. It was a huge organisation and the vast majority of Templars survived the persecution, including most of their leaders, along with much of their treasure and, most importantly, their original values and traditions.”
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Templars absolved by Pope
October 16, 2007
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Freemason Knights Templar

"All Knights Templar are members of the world's oldest fraternal organization known as "The Ancient Free and Accepted Masons" or more commonly known as Masons."
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Short history of the Knights Templar-Freemasons
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You are right about Geometry being essential to Masonic philosophy. The esoteric connections to geometry is such a wide and deep subject and is never a boring study for those who are curious about such things.

By the way, did you know that Dungeons and Dragons dice are based on the 5 platonic solids? I just realized that a month or so ago. I used to play when I was a kid. Pretty cool after you research platonic solids and how they connect to the science of material creation.

Why do the Illuminati use Freemasonry?

All those people in that video of Johnny Cash's are masons. Surprised?

Are you saying I have to have personally known the self-professed satanists Albert Pike and Alistair Crowley before I can present their contributions to Freemasonry? Are you really saying something that stupid?

Oh, I guess you are upset I ruined your little pro-propaganda piece for your masters?

Fact is, I was introduced to the evils of Freemasonry by members here, and many of their readers provided even more information. You say so yourself. So my claim that most people on GLP know about the satanic part of masonry is not exaggeration, if so, not in the extreme.

Really? They said you had to "work" for them every month? That sounds quite strange to me. Was this a legally constituted lodge?

Not true. The Mason sells their soul to the devil at the 30th degree, as do the Templars of the York Rite.

reprint:
[link to www.freemasonrywatch.org]
KNIGHTS KADOSH -- THIRTIETH DEGREE

I do not know who the illuminati are or if they are using Freemasonry.

Legal..lol

Freemasons are murders, no good can come from them.

Looks like your party is a flop, OP. Why don't you go back to your shrine and pray to the Morning Star for more guidance and power to overcome your foes?

By the way, why haven't your fellow Masons in the government and at BP done anything to stop the gulf oil leak? Why didn't they accept help from other countries sooner? Why didn't they nuke it like the Russians did their underwater leaks?

Why did they let the oil flow this long?

You really think we are so blind as to not see how evil they are at the top? And you want to join them?

You want us to join them?

Not upset at all, you might be seeing a mirror image perhaps?

I know that there has been a lot of unsubstantiated quotes and misinterpretation of real quotes when it comes to Crowley and Pike. Regurgitating those is not proving a point.

My friend you have been sold a belief system that has created a fictional character called SATAN. There is no such being. There is only the allowing of light to shine through yourself or the closing off of that light due to fear. Simple.


I started this thread in an attempt to simply give a first hand account of my personal experience as a Mason, not to spread propaganda.

I certainly do not DEFINE myself as just a Freemason. I am an eternal soul inside a human body who just so happens to be a Freemason :)

We are not eternal, until God comes into us after we repent of our selfish ways and admit to him that we need help fighting our inner darkness.

Only then, does God choose to come into us, and make us eternal. Otherwise it is as Jesus says in Matthew 10, both our bodies and our soul will be destroyed in the fires of Hell. Nothing of us will remain. Do you really want to chance that, all for the desire to rule others or be a magician?

I know Masons who are just as pissed about the gulf disaster as we all are. I have no idea who is behind that mess, I do think though that there is more going on there than meets the eye but that's just my own paranoid brain.

I am not at the "top" of anything. See that is the fallacy that I was trying to shed some light on. You don't become a Freemason and suddenly you are ruling the world with reptilian overlords.

Who knows maybe I don't know what some other Mason's know. How can anyone know if Masons are behind the oil spill disaster? Do you claim to know that for a fact?

I am a regular guy, albeit a little strange in my own ways, however I have been a regular reader of Rense, ATS and GLP for a long time and value my liberty highly and will fight for it when the time comes.

By the way you should research the influence of Freemasonry in regards to the whole idea of individual liberty and freedom.

I will go out on a limb and assume that you are a believer of the modern Christian faith. I fully agree with your right to believe that way. I find a lot of truth in the core teachings of Christianity however I am not a Christian per se and I disagree with your statement. That is ok though, for me anyway, you are a fellow human and I have no ill will toward you simply over unmatching belief systems.

Ok, I will tell you.

The Illuminati were founded May 1st, 1776 in Boveria. They are a global hidden brotherhood that include some of the world's most influential people, people of all races, religions, that hold top places in the government, churches, business, education, science, medicine, military, finacial and charitble institutions. The sole purple of the Illuminati is to take over control of the entire world's resources, finances, and its people. Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt formed the Illuminati to unite all the secret societies, you should know your involvment very well - you are part of this New World Order (if you are who you say you are, and what you are a part of) it's impossible to not know your history at your level in Freemasonry, the Illuminati are designed on masonic rituals, and knowledge. Therefore, you are lying.

I've corrected errors.. How I put "purple" I don't know.

the queen of england, most royalty, actually, are masons, they don't hide that.

Obama was seen wearing the mason's robe at a 33rd level mason meeting.

Bush was a mason. Most politicians are masons.

Do you really want us to post all the people and pics and sites showing proof of that? It would take pages. And has already been done, and in your heart, you know it is true, you've read it yourself already. You are just tyring to defend your choices.

Maybe you are not so greedy, but you are in a dangerous place. The next level is where it is at, and I think you know that.

I'm not trying to discredit you as much as I am trying to make sure that people understand the dark deeds of the masonic past, and the current dark deeds done by them.

The french revolution was conducted by masons, as was the american revolution. Washington D.C. is a blue print of masonic symbols laid out in the actual design of the city itself.

You know what's sad, truly sad? I know real satanists who have more integrity than the masons that run this country and the small towns of this nation. For the most part, they are scum and vermin. And I think you know that too.

One practice my grandpa told me about that really disgusted me, was that freemasons stick together and help each other get jobs and share the resources of government money with each other, and if you don't know them, good luck getting those contracts or jobs.

They are the true monopoly that has crippled the world, not just America.

Have you ever built an outdoor brick BBQ?

your thesis only holds true if and only if you are a believer of the modern Christian faith and believe the interpretation given on the web page you cited.

is that your personal interpretation or just something you linked to in order to shore up the defense of your belief system against my "extremely dangerous words" :)

LOL..yes and of course it was perfectly square.

No game playing here. I am building the mass intention website as promised and for the reasons I stated.

The fact that I am a Freemason should have no bearing on that whatsoever. It is only the misconception in your mind about what you think it means for someone to be a Freemason.

The 33rd degree is an honorary rite usually given to those who spend a lot of time at the lodge and participate. I most likely will never make 33rd degree as I am a lone wolf by nature and do not attend lodge very often, maybe once or twice a year, just so I don't feel too much like a "paper mason".

The truth of the matter is that I joined Freemasonry to find out once and for all what is was about after having read so many different theories about it. What I found was nothing nefarious in the least bit. Contrast this to the time I was asked to join a local Chapter of the Golden Dawn and I bugged out in mid ritual while I was in the antechamber waiting to get initiated - I suddenly felt a very real sense that linking into this group was a VERY bad idea, so I walked out without saying a word to anyone.

At any rate. The modern Masonic lodge is unfortunately nothing more than a social guild. It is based however on the traditional western lodge magickal society. They do practice magick in the lodge. The funny thing is that 98% of the guys doing it do not know that is what they are doing. They are simply going through the motions without understanding the significance of the symbols and energies behind those symbols being worked. I was very disappointed to find this out hence my reluctance to spend much time up at the lodge.

Your comments are all correct, although how you could get to be 32 degree without attending many meetings is curious. I guess you donated a lot.

Thanks for opening yourself up to questions here.

Before I ask my question, I would like to give you some background.

In the 90's, a group of us would engage in regular spiritual discussions trying to sort out some of the strange phenomena, sightings and dreams we were experiencing, tackling the issues of racism, injustice, poverty/homelessness and other social issues of our time.

We eagerly and niavely started asking questions of prominent local masons, community members and church leaders, some of us became engaged in protest music, organizing benefits and were part of a larger group of aware, passionate and creative individuals. The lead-up to the death of a core member involved a period where we were barraged by a phenomena that now can be described as "organized stalking" although at the time we had no idea what was going on.

Out of the five or six people involved, several of us started having strange visions foreshadowing apocalyptic events and the worst case suffered a schizophrenic episode which ended in his death at the hands of the police. He believed he was contacting a Native American spirit, related that he was being persuaded to do certain things with the reward of power or prestige and ultimately was convinced a local holiday parade was being thrown in his honor. Most of the original group members drifted away or became mired in drug and alcohol abuse as this "feedback" got the best of them.

I continued on, trying my best to discern the source of the interference and put myself in often dangerous situations to see if I could get to the bottom of the mystery. At times these perpetrators, who appear to have affiliations with the music and entertainment industry, organized crime, elements of the local/state/federal government, first responders, the community policing initiatives and street level informants play different roles often encouraging, seducing, humiliating, incriminating and floating key pieces of information like carrots on a stick. I haven't determined who is handling this cast of characters but I wonder..

Do you have any insight on the phenomena of organized stalking or who is conducting mind-control, street theatre or other counterintelligence operations in the United States, if not the Freemasons then who in your opinion is pulling the strings?

OP looks like you are the dinner special for the A.Cowards.

It was a good thread until the "Freemasons drink puppy blood" comments started arriving.

Clearly they know nothing and fear everything.

Goetia, lol. Do have any comments on my question? Thanks.

..and who the fuck are you? Where do you live, what's your name? Who's your Daddy? What's your credit card number? Why do you call yourself "Goetia" instead of telling us who you really are.

zzzz....yes, yes I have read all of this before. I believed this was what I might find when I joined but I have found no such thing, somewhat to my disappointment to be honest, hey I was young and full of beans and ready for an adventure.

Again, there is definitely a framework built for conducting magick but it is not being used to the best of my knowledge. There was nothing ever that felt like a bad vibe while at the lodge and I am very sensitive to such things.

If in fact I am possessed by Satan after unwittingly selling my soul to him by joining the lodge then Satan must not be that bad of a guy. You are talking to a guy who tears up at the end of Lord of the Rings even after having seen it at least 10 times, yes, extended versions. I am a painter and a poet and a musician. I have a 10 year old daughter who I love with all my heart and who loves me. I give money to the homeless whenever I have it. If someone needs help I always say yes if I can give it, mason or non mason. I am full of compassion for the world and also full of fury at the tyranny that seems to be growing day by day.
I do make mistakes and have a shadow side just like any one of us. I have an incredible thirst for knowledge and especially for all things strange and esoteric. I do not however practice evil or wish it to be practiced. If Satan is in me I can find no trace of his handywork anywhere in my life nor can my friends and family.

Honestly when I joined the lodge I was a crazy rebel drunken poet kind of guy. The initiation really balanced my energy out and was very beneficial for my life.

fruits, ye shall know by the fruits. how else can we judge anything other than what effect we can personally observe it having? I speak from my own personal experience and offer it simply as an FYI sort of thing. Take it or leave it no worries :)

OP, I have a question, two.

Was Albert Pike a Mason, or Freemason?

Did he revere Lucifer?

lol.



No. Scary shit. To be honest though you kinda lost me. Hard to say, but seems you were hanging with a bad crowd - or under what is called a psychic attack.

At either rate i'd distance myself from that craziness as much as possible.