FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.

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"one rancher, how many have died in Detroit? oh that's right, this is just about mexicans, my bad. phoenix actually is very much lower than Houston, NYC, Detroit, Dallas, Orlando, LA, i could go on, the problem in arizona is political. Brewer wants to enforce this law, which is a welcome mat for violence, so that when the cops and citizens start dropping like flies, as innevitably they will, they can rally people to throw out democrats. simple as pie, good plan for the repubs, but horrible mistake for all americans. let's throw underpaid police officers under the bus, who already have it bad enough in their communities dealing with trust, this is just a moronic attempt to stop a real problem, although the problem is nowhere near as bad as they say. people just don't care to hear the truth, they must always be in fear of something."





Were you BORN this stupid, or did you huff paint for 10 years straight?

Fail

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RANCHER gave illegal water, turned around and started to walk toward his pickup and THEN was shot in the back where HE died in the desert. (Thanks for the compassion mr., now here's a bullet in your back!)

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"I am already required to show ID if I am pulled over or suspected of a crime, why should it be any different for brown people?"



Because they are "special".

Didn't you know? If you are a "minority" of ANY kind, or a homosexual, or a female, then you are "special".

If you are a white male (especially a straight Christian white male), then you are deserving of any and all prejudice and vitriolic hate.

Didn't you know that? Where have you been?

I think the consequence of all the displaced people from Katrina is the final straw on the camel's back.

homeless people will do whatever it takes to survive and even get ahead....legal or not.

I am absolutely 100% behind Arizona on this stand!!!

Another solution is, let them in but have them prove legal citizenship in order to collect any of the financial aide and benefits here. If they want a job, prove citizenship...to cut down on illegal hiring by employers, then conduct raids on the people that knowlingly employ illegals.

With no money, food stamps, jobs or education...then they have no reason to come here at all!

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has conducted raids on companies out here in AZ for hiring illegals...the feds got all up in his arse about it too...

Really Phoenix is the kidnapping capitol of the us, second world wide to Mexico City. Az is also the identity theft capitol of the US. Guess whos committing those crimes.

Really,, and by what facts to you base you opinion. Lets hear it.

I'm half white, but you wouldnt know it by looking at me. When I got pulled over for a tail light being out I was asked fro my drivers license. In AZ a valid drivers license IS proof of citizenship,,,,

Basically: Arizona law interferes with the feds "discretion"?

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Defending our borders is discretionary?

its funny how there are illegal immigrants in the military right now, fighting for the country that gave them freedom. but now i guess whites in Arizona don't care. and yes, there are lots of drug traffickers or "traficantes" that cross the border, but not all Mexican immigrants are. and immigrants aren't only Mexicans, go to long beach, CA. Asians everywhere, go to Florida, Cubans everywhere, But they only care about the freaking Mexicans. and to the white "supremacists" out there shouting out at darker skinned people to go back to their country, you should go back to yours, wait, you dont know what country you are from you filthy mongrel, you poor excuse for an American. Goodday. Thankyou.

i dont understand, white man comes and nearly drives the red man to extinction, then gives the land to the mexicans. thats bullshit.

FIRST CAUSE OF ACTION – VIOLATION OF THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE
61. Plaintiff incorporates paragraphs 1 through 60 of the Complaint as if fully stated
herein.
62. Sections 1-6 of S.B. 1070, taken in whole and in part, represent an impermissible
effort by Arizona to establish its own immigration policy and to directly regulate the
immigration status of aliens. In particular, Sections 1-6 conflict with federal law and foreign
policy, disregard federal policies, interfere with federal enforcement priorities in areas
committed to the discretion of plaintiff United States, and otherwise impede the
accomplishment and execution of the full purposes and objectives of federal law and foreign
policy.
63. Sections 1-6 of S.B. 1070 violate the Supremacy Clause, and are invalid.

If it looks like Barry will give ammnesty, watch mexico (and other latin countries) empty out their prisons and bus them to the border ! Remember the Marial boat lift from cuba ?

It isnt only the State Dept against the Arizona state govt. There are 5 other complainants from people and orgs in Arizona and elsewhere, including police from Pheonix and Tucson...

Show us please.,,, ie Hispanic vs 'illegal', and the proportion of the hispanic pop in Pheonix, and also the list that shows it "second to Mexico City". Otherwise, STFU!

There is a whole world of difference between Legal Immigrants and Illegal immigrants. Believe it or not its not all about the Mexicans either, altho they would like it to be. It about BEING HERE ILLEGALLY NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

Agreed.

Hehe ridiculous, these people came in Arizona illegally, they have no rights at all, they virtually don't exist, they haven't been registred by the UCIS.

Errm... Ethiopians?

The beasts occupying the federal government of the United States have no intention of enforcing any law that will personally threaten their position. Their intention has always been to erase boundaries between peoples and nations - a wholly destructive agenda. It is, of course, an agenda doomed to fail - and their end will be fitting as real justice sweeps them away.

My biggest nightmare is that this man will be re-elected in 2012. It's bad enough he still has 2 and a half years to do a whole lot more damage.

He does not care what the majority of the people want. He probably would love to have a statue of himself with an iron fist in front of the white house.

no i just have the gift of common sense. it's actually rare, contrary to popular belief. i would have a better reaction for ya, but i don't play high school games by talking like a teenager.

i honestly dont think this country will make it to another election, kind of surprized someone does to tell you the truth

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FindLaw Knowledgebase » Kidnapping Capital of the United States: PhoenixFindLaw KnowledgeBase
Published: 2010-02-17
Kidnapping Capital of the United States: Phoenix

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Like so much of the United States, Phoenix has been hit hard by the recession. One type of business is booming, however: kidnapping. Over the past few years, Phoenix has acquired a dubious reputation as America’s kidnapping capital.

State and federal statistics show that most types of crime have dropped in the Phoenix area in recent years. On the other hand, kidnapping has surged from 48 reported cases in Maricopa County in 2004, to 366 in 2008 and 359 the year before.

Law enforcement authorities say the vast majority of kidnappings in the Phoenix area stem from a single source: the illicit drug traffic coming north from the Mexican state of Sinaloa. Approximately half of all the marijuana seized along the U.S.-Mexico border is taken along our state’s 370-mile border.

Sinaloa sits along the Pacific Coast, a few hours south of Arizona. It’s where most Mexican drug cartels were formed and where kidnappers began nabbing victims in order to get debts paid. They soon expanded their victim pool by including local merchants, prominent citizens and others in order to extract hefty ransoms from the victims’ families and business associates.

Over time, the kidnappings have migrated north, carrying a wave of related crimes, including shootings and home invasions.

Though murders in Maricopa County are down overall, the wave of Mexican drug-related kidnappings and killings has officials alarmed. They want to act now to prevent the sort of violence plaguing Mexico, where over 6,000 people were killed in drug-related activities in 2008



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Figures Show Surge in Kidnappings in Mexico

MEXICO CITY – Criminal complaints filed with police about kidnappings rose 90 percent in Mexico during the first three years of conservative President Felipe Calderon’s term, the Milenio newspaper reported over the weekend, citing official statistics.

A total of 2,593 kidnapping complaints were filed during conservative President Vicente Fox’s 2000-2006 term, while 2,455 kidnappings were reported in 2007-2009, the first three years of the Calderon administration, which started on Dec. 1, 2006.

The number of kidnappings reported annually nearly doubled from 595 in 2006 to 1,181 last year, reaching an average of just over three per day, “well above the level registered in countries known for their high incidence of this crime, such as Colombia,” Milenio said.

Abductions, according to National Development Plan, or PND, figures, increased by 40 percent from 2008 to 2009, going from 838 to 1,181.

Crimes are rarely reported in Mexico because citizens view police as being corrupt or incompetent, considering it a waste of time and even dangerous to call authorities.

Official figures indicate that the percentage of common crimes solved in the past few years was low.

Both federal and non-federal crimes, according to the PND, have risen in the past three years.

Murders have risen markedly, with 22,750 killings blamed on organized crime groups since Calderon took office, a figure that is well above those registered under Fox and other presidents.

Mexico is experiencing the most violent period in its history in terms of organized crime, analysts say.

Kidnappings are of particular concern because they affect all social classes.

Marches and protests have been held recently to press officials to do something about crime.

Calderon, state governors, lawmakers, judges and civic activists unanimously approved a 75-point plan in August 2008 to combat organized crime.

The National Accord for Security, Justice and Legality called for rooting out corruption in law enforcement and the judiciary, building more secure prisons, better managing spending on public safety and requiring the registration of all cell phones, but it has not put a dent in the crime rate.

Ciudad Juarez, located across the border from El Paso, Texas, has become Mexico’s murder capital amid a turf war among rival drug cartels.

Mexico City and neighboring Mexico are also hotbeds for crime. EFE

the wave of Mexican drug-related kidnappings and killings

Mexican? How about the whole Colombia to US conduit, via Panama, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Mexico and the United States? And what about the drug dealers of Arizona and across the United States? Are they just sitting on their butt's allowing a bunch of foreigners to rule and profit -- the lucrative retail end -- on their territory?

Get real....

Perhaps you haven't had a chance to read Arizona law and the Supremacy Clause within the U.S. Constitution. If you did, you might realize that the Arizona law isn't unconstitutional because the language is the same as the Federal law and does not interfere with the Federal Government's enforcing of its own law.

Another poster gave you a link for the Arizona law; here's one link for the supremacy Clause, and you can Google for others:

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PS: I'm not a nazi (except by your flawed definition), and unlike you I put the letters JD (Juris Doctorate) after my name.

You should be ashamed for supporting those who refuse to enforce the law and then turn around and attempt legal action against those who will. Obama has literally told the citizens of Arizona to kiss his ass. He has knowingly and willfully opened our southern border to criminals, terrorists, drugs of all sorts and god knows what else. In the Obama administration, homeland security is a joke.

Oh thats right it couldn't be Mexicans or Mexican gangs.. So sorry we have them all confused with the other bad guys.