FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.

please please please god. Give me someone who stands up for the people and this country. Not someone loyal to the Repubs or dems. it seems this has caused the biggest problem to our nation.
its funny how there are illegal immigrants in the military right now, fighting for the country that gave them freedom. but now i guess whites in Arizona don't care. and yes, there are lots of drug traffickers or "traficantes" that cross the border, but not all Mexican immigrants are. and immigrants aren't only Mexicans, go to long beach, CA. Asians everywhere, go to Florida, Cubans everywhere, But they only care about the freaking Mexicans. and to the white "supremacists" out there shouting out at darker skinned people to go back to their country, you should go back to yours, wait, you dont know what country you are from you filthy mongrel, you poor excuse for an American. Goodday. Thankyou.

please please please god. Give me someone who stands up for the people and this country. Not someone loyal to the Repubs or dems. it seems this has caused the biggest problem to our nation.
its funny how there are illegal immigrants in the military right now, fighting for the country that gave them freedom. but now i guess whites in Arizona don't care. and yes, there are lots of drug traffickers or "traficantes" that cross the border, but not all Mexican immigrants are. and immigrants aren't only Mexicans, go to long beach, CA. Asians everywhere, go to Florida, Cubans everywhere, But they only care about the freaking Mexicans. and to the white "supremacists" out there shouting out at darker skinned people to go back to their country, you should go back to yours, wait, you dont know what country you are from you filthy mongrel, you poor excuse for an American. Goodday. Thankyou.

Posts here seem to show that the political strategists directing the campaign for amnesty to illegal aliens have two very powerful psychological weapons for squelching opposition. The effectiveness of these two weapons is aimed at exploiting deep remorselessness in the national psyche over alleged historical failures to honor the principles upon which this nation was founded.

Americans are hyper sensitized to the label “racist”, no doubt due to public consciousness of those regrettable episodes when racism was openly declared as policy objective, governmental and otherwise. Consequently, Americans have been long conditioned to reflexively shy back from opposing policy that is front loaded with claim of being anti-racist. Conversely, opposing arguments are stigmatized as inherently racist, rendering them much less likely to receive as full an examination as might be warranted.

“Anti-immigrant” is another epithet from which Americans shy, conditioned as we are by the phrase “We are all immigrants”. Most Americans willingly acknowledge the fact that immigration restrictions of the past often were framed out of racist sentiment, and that many of us would not be here were we not of European extraction. Proponents for amnesty are exploiting that sensitivity hoping that the American public is conditioned to submit without full discussion of the broader ramifications of amnesty. That is why they frame opposition as anti-immigrant rather than as pro-legal immigration.

Many citizens seem to have internalized the allegations that nation’s past contained racist sentiments, as full born or isolated as they may have been, and bearing it as a personal guilt which they then project back upon the nation as a whole. Expiation of that guilt then becomes framing national policy as declaration of mea culpa, with legislation slanted primarily to purpose of restitution to any party wishing to identify itself among the harmed? Palliative this course might feel to some, but -- of course -- the past would remain immutable. Outcome though would be disastrous in terms of our government fulfilling its Constitutional obligation to act on behalf of current and future needs as willed by the citizenry through democratic process.

Promoters of amnesty have self arrogated themselves to Inquisitor (as in Spanish Inquisition of the 16th Century), presuming to position themselves to decide for the nation what action will serve to expiate perceived racist past. Implicitly, the judgment is that our nation is no longer entitled to sovereignty. Hence, legislated immigration policies must default to however many foreign nationals choose to come here in disregard of hitherto legal policy.
That is, citizens should relinquish sovereign privilege of directing national destiny, subordinating instead to unrestricted migration of populations from regions beyond its no longer enforced borders. Self-flagellation, anyone?

Amnesty, fronted as anti-racist, has immunized it from consideration in broader context -- budget crunch, national debt, over extended infrastructure, undercut middle-class wages, weakened organized labor movement, overpopulation, environmental collapse, global warming, high unemployment, job loss, mortgage defaults, health care disaster, education inadequacies, etc., etc.

This forces the question: have polemics of the political left crystallized into a cant of political correctness, preconditioning it from critically analyzing propositions front-loaded as anti racist? "Left", at time of its origination as reference to a factional stance in politics, was coincident with the frame "free thinker". Today though, judging from its adopted memes, litany of catch phrases and talking points, the Left appears to have become as uniform in mind set as a monastic order.

Posts here seem to show that the political strategists directing the campaign for amnesty to illegal aliens have two very powerful psychological weapons for squelching opposition. The effectiveness of these two weapons is aimed at exploiting deep remorselessness in the national psyche over alleged historical failures to honor the principles upon which this nation was founded.

Americans are hyper sensitized to the label “racist”, no doubt due to public consciousness of those regrettable episodes when racism was openly declared as policy objective, governmental and otherwise. Consequently, Americans have been long conditioned to reflexively shy back from opposing policy that is front loaded with claim of being anti-racist. Conversely, opposing arguments are stigmatized as inherently racist, rendering them much less likely to receive as full an examination as might be warranted.

“Anti-immigrant” is another epithet from which Americans shy, conditioned as we are by the phrase “We are all immigrants”. Most Americans willingly acknowledge the fact that immigration restrictions of the past often were framed out of racist sentiment, and that many of us would not be here were we not of European extraction. Proponents for amnesty are exploiting that sensitivity hoping that the American public is conditioned to submit without full discussion of the broader ramifications of amnesty. That is why they frame opposition as anti-immigrant rather than as pro-legal immigration.

Many citizens seem to have internalized the allegations that nation’s past contained racist sentiments, as full born or isolated as they may have been, and bearing it as a personal guilt which they then project back upon the nation as a whole. Expiation of that guilt then becomes framing national policy as declaration of mea culpa, with legislation slanted primarily to purpose of restitution to any party wishing to identify itself among the harmed? Palliative this course might feel to some, but -- of course -- the past would remain immutable. Outcome though would be disastrous in terms of our government fulfilling its Constitutional obligation to act on behalf of current and future needs as willed by the citizenry through democratic process.

Promoters of amnesty have self arrogated themselves to Inquisitor (as in Spanish Inquisition of the 16th Century), presuming to position themselves to decide for the nation what action will serve to expiate perceived racist past. Implicitly, the judgment is that our nation is no longer entitled to sovereignty. Hence, legislated immigration policies must default to however many foreign nationals choose to come here in disregard of hitherto legal policy.
That is, citizens should relinquish sovereign privilege of directing national destiny, subordinating instead to unrestricted migration of populations from regions beyond its no longer enforced borders. Self-flagellation, anyone?

Amnesty, fronted as anti-racist, has immunized it from consideration in broader context -- budget crunch, national debt, over extended infrastructure, undercut middle-class wages, weakened organized labor movement, overpopulation, environmental collapse, global warming, high unemployment, job loss, mortgage defaults, health care disaster, education inadequacies, etc., etc.

This forces the question: have polemics of the political left crystallized into a cant of political correctness, preconditioning it from critically analyzing propositions front-loaded as anti racist? "Left", at time of its origination as reference to a factional stance in politics, was coincident with the frame "free thinker". Today though, judging from its adopted memes, litany of catch phrases and talking points, the Left appears to have become as uniform in mind set as a monastic order.


I sure hope the US "left" isnt defining the issue as you say. Best to leave the intimidating emotional shill arguments to the "right". Amnesty hasnt been realistically discussed; it wont be for everybody IMO, just the long term, established, assimilated variety. It isnt a question of if, only when...


Assimilated variety? That would be a step forward and quite critical to the argument yet I'd assume that to be a very small minority. Assimilation is voluntary and in my experience most illegals resist it, smiling as the dolares are laid in their palm and sneering when they turn away.


Assimilation is NOT voluntary. Sorry. But you should investigate the demographic make up of the 15 or so million. I am sure the ones I am referring to are a minority, not sure how small. Know one does. First of all you'll have to tempt them to come out of hiding,,, otherwise they wont...