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HIZBALLAH ADVANCES 20,000 TROOPS TO ISRAELI BORDER ((Breaking)) Ahmadinejad to visit Beirut .

 
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“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book”
—Revelation 22:18-19

While it does not say that it is unforgivable, verbatim, it DOES say that you will never get into the holy city, that you will be removed from the Book of Life, and you will not be part of the things that are written in said book.

And, there is also the one mentioned by the quoted poster...

I found the following helpful when I was trying to understand... Hope it helps someone else.


Holy smokes I was just talking about this here on the board this evening.
I didn`t know the verse though,, wow thanks.


Check this from erlier a/c 441
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oops,,,

Thread: Watch for the sign = 9.2 TONGA.
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Re: HIZBALLAH ADVANCES 20,000 TROOPS TO ISRAELI BORDER ((Breaking)) Ahmadinejad to visit Beirut .
i'm thinking

a great war will break out,
and Israel will destroy and conquer and take the muslim nations around her,

israel will take all the nations which include the original PROMISED LAND,
ALL OF SAUDI ARABIA, AND ARABIAN PENNINSULA,
SYRIA, JORDAN, LEBANON
GAZA
SINAI
MT SINAI IN SAUDI ARABIA
HOREB ROCK IN SAUDI ARABIA,


also,
iran will be destroyed,
usa will be destroyed, because they hurt israel,



israel will emerge as the lone super-power of the world,
and the a/c will ask israel to sign a peace treaty, cause israel is so powerful


the faith of the muslims will be crushed,
and many will turn to Christ,
many jews will turn to Christ

God used obama as the catalyst to destroy apostate usa , and to exalt israel



Most of what you say I agree with in this scenario.
The one point I disagree with you on is your thought that the USA is somehow "apostate".

I believe the USA has lost its center, has lost the Faith and Trust it once had in God.

For was it not by the USA that Israel was even first established and nurtured?

I don't believe God wishes to destroy the United States, rather He wants His people in it to repent and seek HIM once again.

For I do believe God does love the USA.
I believe there is a calling to the people in the USA right now and all round the world of God's people to turn back to HIM.

Soon, He will return and take HIS CHURCH and when this happens, I believe the United States will be so crippled by this event, because many who are believers in Jesus Christ reside IN the United States, that by this event alone, the United States will cease to be a Super Power any longer and the focus will shift to Israel, who has been in the SHADOW OF THE UNITED STATES since its rebirth.

In Jesus Christ,

God Bless!!!
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033.....your statements are not Scriptural......but rather something learned from human teachers.

Here is what the Scriptures say on this issue:


"These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them, and CONFESSED THAT THEY WERE STRANGERS AND PILGRIMS ON THE EARTH.

"For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland.

"And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return.

"But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country.

"Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them." (Heb Chap 11)


Philippians 3:20: "For our citizenship is in heaven....."


1 Peter 2:11: "Beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims......."


Certainly God provided a way for the early pilgrims to escape persecution in Europe......but this also was not without much hardship. Many died from sickness and other hardships.

They were very thankful to God to be in America.....but also understood I think that theirs was a heavenly nation....something above......and that they were but sojourners on earth passing through.
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This thread was supposed to be about a possible war, now we are arguing about GOD, don't blame anyone what happens in the middle east because its all our faults.

blinker Relax and go with the flow 878385, it is Sunday/Monday morning after all. The thing with starting a thread on GLP is that it's always best to relax and just let people talk about the aspects that they want to.

I understand how this can be frustrating to a non-believer. But when all is said and done most of the posters have correctly understood in one way or another that we are in the end times, and that all of this is about the imminent return of Jesus Christ.

Another point is that instinctively (I think) many people realise that in some way today is an important day. Amongst other things it is also the first day of Av, which ends on the 9th day which is July 20th. This is a time when traditionally bad things happen to the Jews.



I may be a non-beleiver, but I have an open mind.

All Im saying, is the "stories" Im fed by books, posters, and others just dont make sense to me.

And when I ask questions, I get quoted scripture and people get pissed at me, so i get pissed and it goes nowhere.
All I want are some answers, and I may be able to grasp and beleive a few things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802428



First, I'd like to say that your patience is commendable. If it is answers you seek - I can appreciate where you're coming from. It is written that God does not want mindless dummies - he wants us to love him. This implies that there is choice. EDIT: He wants us to seek. He wants us to question everything. And, He doesn't want us to believe because we're afraid - but because of our deep appreciation of and love for Him. /endEDIT There is a personal relationship. And, that if there were no choice - we would not love someone... Love is a condition of the heart and not the mind or the body. You know what I am saying here?

If you would like a sincere conversation without persecution or honesty. edit: WITH (lol, not W/O honesty but WITH honesty) and with respect. /endEDIT I'd be glad to have that with you. I am not sure that it would be all that great to do this in open forum... But, whatever and however you'd like to have that, just let me know and I will personally make the time to have that convo with you.


I do want to point out, though, that Jesus had 12 legions of angels surrounding Him. He said he could have been relieved of his duty and purpose by uttering the words at any time during that fateful day. He chose to die. This is what He was purposed for but, He always had a way out. Just as Mary could have said no, so too could Jesus.

I do not believe that Jesus was murdered by God, but, by men.

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Kind of, but I'm still lost on the whole Jews/Xians thing....being Jesus was king of the Jews, doesn't that make Xians wrong?

If he was a Jew, Xians should convert to Judaism.
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9teen Well it is kind of a complicated subject, you might find this one interesting.

WHERE'S RABBI WAXMAN?... [link to www.chick.com]

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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Re: HIZBALLAH ADVANCES 20,000 TROOPS TO ISRAELI BORDER ((Breaking)) Ahmadinejad to visit Beirut .
JESUS CHRIST IS GOD.

new one there.

Sooo..he ordered his OWN death?

Care to elaborate?



I just explained to you above why Jesus Christ, GOD, came to die for mankind.

If you don't "get it", then I'm sorry you just don't get it.
Perhaps you should pray to God for wisdom and understanding for it concerns your eternity and where you are placed in it.

For those that are willingly blind will surely fall into a pit and die.


But those who are blind but are willingly to SEE, shall find the light.

In Jesus Christ,

God Bless!!!



Before i lose it, how did jesus become god?

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JESUS WAS IN EXISTENCE PRIOR TO HUMBLING HIMSELF, PUTTING ON HUMAN FLESH, AND COMING AS A BABE IN THE MANGER. AT THE BEGINNING AS FOUND IN GENESIS 1:26 NOTE THE FOLLOWING PLURALITY:

"THEN GOD SAID, 'LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE....ACCORDING TO OUR LIKENESS.....

ALTHOUGH THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.....HE SIMULTANEOUSLY MANIFESTS HIMSELFS AS THREE PERSONAGES.....THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

IT IS ALSO MY VIEW THAT THE ANGEL OF THE LORD WAS THE PRE-INCARNATE CHRIST. NOTE IN GEN 22:

"But the Angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said "Abraham, Abraham......"Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that your fear God, since you have not withheld your your son, your only son, from Me."

"Then the Angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time out of heaven, and said 'By Myself I have sworn, says the Lord, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son, in blessing I will bless you and in multiplying I will multiply your descendants........." "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed because you have obeyed My voice."

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You never explained that, in any words I read.

God created jesus....jesus was ordered to die by god.

Where does jesus become god?

how bout an answer to any of the other questions i put out there for you?

Lets get past the god/jesus thing and get back to the murder, or even the leaving all the horrible things in our reach, when as a creator and "all powerful" he could simply not make sin, or anything else to hurt his "deeply loved" children.

No, your god chose to create sin, war, famines, disease, etc....just to get a kick out of watching us freakin suffer.

If there is a god.

Proof that the bible is real does not prove the characters in it were.
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DEBKA??? 1rof1 Riiiiight.
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Kind of, but I'm still lost on the whole Jews/Xians thing....being Jesus was king of the Jews, doesn't that make Xians wrong?

If he was a Jew, Xians should convert to Judaism.

:9teen: Well it is kind of a complicated subject, you might find this one interesting.

WHERE'S RABBI WAXMAN?... [link to www.chick.com]
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That tract is some seriously sick shit, and I mean that in the worst possible way.The only thing I would have to say to such a punishing and evil deity is f*ck you!
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Quoting from a book some men wrote 2,000 years ago doesn't make any of it true, or add any credibility. You can quote from Goldie Locks and The 3 Bears too, doesn't make any of it true. People see what they want to see. When you ask bible-thumpers to "show me, don't tell me", they can't. NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN ABLE TO. THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM, DON'T 'YA THINK?!! Yet they still insist as if they've been brainwashed by a cult. In fact, that's exactly what it is. I was one of them. I no longer could buy it, my gut instinct said loud and clear something's not right with it, especially the catholic churches, replete with proven pedophiles. But hey, people will have to figure it out for themselves.

A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.
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kitty This is the sort of thing that the Jews have to deal with on a daily basis...


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According to your logic this girl should commended because she's help bring about the "end times" prophecy, frustrating or what.
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“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book”
—Revelation 22:18-19

While it does not say that it is unforgivable, verbatim, it DOES say that you will never get into the holy city, that you will be removed from the Book of Life, and you will not be part of the things that are written in said book.

And, there is also the one mentioned by the quoted poster...

I found the following helpful when I was trying to understand... Hope it helps someone else.


Holy smokes I was just talking about this here on the board this evening.
I didn`t know the verse though,, wow thanks.


Check this from erlier a/c 441
 Quoting: MI6 1028276


I hadn't seen this. Apologies.

But, at least it served and was helpful for someone.
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Quoting scripture doesnt help me with explanations.


A human interpretation is needed.

9teen Well that's where we start to run into serious problems 802428. If I start to sugarcoat the pill, I am in fact lying to you. That is why we must truthfully quote scripture. I know you may not like it, but there is no other way. Here is what we are facing for departing from the ways of the Lord.

THE BEAST... [link to www.chick.com]

kitty Or as the above poster just said...“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book”
—Revelation 22:18-19
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Respectfully, I have to disagree here.

I hadn't ever read from the Bible until about 2 years ago.

I witnessed and helped at least 3 of my friends by plantings seeds and lending love. A converted Buddhist, Atheist, and another friend who was Wiccan. God can use you in many ways and it is not always required to quote scripture. Certainly it can help in your own faith and ground one further... But, as a poster has already stated, it is not applicable, and it doesn't meet the person where they are sometimes.

We are to meet someone where they are in their walk of faith, shedding all pride and knowledge and lending your love out of wisdom and grace. This is not to say That we should partake with others outside of Christ - but, certainly people want to feel respected, heard, and don't want to feel like what they're saying is falling on deaf ears and a numb heart.

I guard my heart carefully to always remember to approach with love and never with the intent to convert or sway someone to "my side." We are not to preach to those who can't hear. We are to be a living example of love and joyfully hear where they're coming from. We can't decide who has a wicked heart - but, by their fruits you will know who to trust.

Should you be placing yourself in scary situations? No. But, what IS required is empathy, love, and obedience to what laws Christ has laid before you. Love one another. Love God.

Love covers a multitude of sins. I did not have to quote scripture in order to be a living example of Christ's love for others.

And, I still don't. It just helps me nowwhen people ask me "show me where it says this in the Bible."

I hope you see what I'm saying hear and that it all came out right.

We don't have all of the answers - but, what we DO know, we should definitely adhere to.

Peace and blessings
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I get why you post pictures of provactive women - becasue you can..you pay for you account and you are waving that as a false flag. Who are you, what do you want?
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All land, this whole earth belongs to God.


Gret, and when he comes back, he can have it.

But, since we freakin destroyed it, he probably wont want it anymore.


God is the CREATOR.

Do you really understand what that means?

DO YOU?


Yeah.

DO YOU??

did he create war disease and famine just for us?

Did he create the tools of our demise because HE LOVES US?

did he dangle the carrot of death in front of the loved populous, just to tease us?

Or is it strictly a Damocles threat?

Why does this man, that nobody has ever met, hold so much power....and such disgusting power at that?

Answer just this one question...

If jesus is gods so, why do we worship the guy that was offered up for sacrifice by the jews?

Why do we not worship ONLY god?

False Idols?

If god created all, why is jesus more important?

do you have an answer?

DO YOU?
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Oh you want paradise? And God do not give you a place in heaven. Sinners will not get a place in heaven sorry.
That is a question for thousand years and still not solved.
But Earth becomes to a hell because of people like you who do not understand it and do not get the point.
A humans life is too short and for billions life is to short to understand it.
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just read the thread title...

:megaBSflag:

hf
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Very typical German, German have blood in their hands and they still will not learn.
SO JESUS CHRIST WILL TAKE HIS BLESSING AWAY for Germany BECAUSE OF GUYS LIKE YOU!!!


WATCH OUT THE LAST JUDGEMENT IS COMING!

The Wrath of the lamb is coming
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the most protestant bible-believing nation is the most super-blessed nation,,,,,,,,,USA

FREEDOMS, RIGHTS, JOBS, OPPORTUNITIES, healthcare, education, land, travel, free enterprise

freedom of religion, freedom of speech, free press,


all written into our FOUNDING DOCUMENTS by bible-beliving christians


the non-christian nations are ruined by corruption, bribes, poverty, foolishness, ,,,,,because they rejected Christ

THIS IS A SIGN FROM GOD!

PRAISE CHRIST!
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And the Beast is still at the waters between Euphrat and Tigris and Babylon sits on the Beast.
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Respectfully, I have to disagree here.

I hadn't ever read from the Bible until about 2 years ago.

I witnessed and helped at least 3 of my friends by plantings seeds and lending love. A converted Buddhist, Atheist, and another friend who was Wiccan. God can use you in many ways and it is not always required to quote scripture. Certainly it can help in your own faith and ground one further... But, as a poster has already stated, it is not applicable, and it doesn't meet the person where they are sometimes.

 Quoting: Valent!ne

7491t9 Well I'm not necessarily saying quote verbatim, the fact is that I couldn't find most verses in the bible if it wasn't for the Blue Letter search engine myself.

However I can tell you quoting from memory the basic and true (as best that I can) gist of a particular passage. In my case I preach to many people and make extensive use of Chick illustrated tracts. Either handing them out or leaving them on bus seats etc. Not to mention the internet.

To be honest I quite ofton get pissed off with peoples hardness of heart. I have a family member I have been speaking with for years who blows hot and cold with me. And others who are either JW's, Freemasons, Buddhists, or what have you.

So I'm of the take it or leave it variety. Except for children, young people, and some individuals. Perhaps thats not perfect but thats the way I am.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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cowgal Another thing Valent!ne is the extremely hostile preaching atmosphere on most GLP threads. Now how many Christians jump right into a thread about Voodoo, or Satanism and preach, on a regular daily basis? There is just a few of us who do and we get followed about the forum by hostile people for our troubles.

Believe it or not back in 2004 I was actually extremely upset by all this. But now I have a hard Christian heart. Why? It comes from the psychic attacks, witches can and do send devils against Christians, but except for a bad dream every now and then it doesnt really bother me none. But think of this. If they are doing that to me, then what are they doing to other people.

Have you seen me on a Jew hating thread? I can go on for page after page after page. And that's ofton with three or four threads at a time, not just one.

What I am trying to say to you is that the Lord needs different types of folk for different types of jobs. It seems that you are more suited to working face to face over the long term with a few individuals, and I do wish you every success with it, there is obviously a need for that type of Christian.

Me? I go into the market place to preach to either a hostile, or at best an indifferent crowd. And I bring a basket of rotten eggs to throw back at those who throw moldy old cabbages or squishy apples at me.

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 07/12/2010 09:02 AM
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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This thread is dicks.
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DEBKA??? 1rof1 Riiiiight.
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blinker Every media outlet has an agenda. Tell me who you follow and I can probably demolish their so called objectivity in 3 minutes with one hand tied behind my back.

The point that I am trying to make 1018917 is that if you follow events over a period of years you can usually spot the BS pretty quickly. I would not have published extracts from Debkafile if I thought they where basically untrue.

You have to be able to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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According to your logic this girl should commended because she's help bring about the "end times" prophecy, frustrating or what.
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cowgal According to your logic perhaps, but certainly not mine.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
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This thread was supposed to be about a possible war, now we are arguing about GOD, don't blame anyone what happens in the middle east because its all our faults.

:blinker: Relax and go with the flow 878385, it is Sunday/Monday morning after all. The thing with starting a thread on GLP is that it's always best to relax and just let people talk about the aspects that they want to.

I understand how this can be frustrating to a non-believer. But when all is said and done most of the posters have correctly understood in one way or another that we are in the end times, and that all of this is about the imminent return of Jesus Christ.

Another point is that instinctively (I think) many people realise that in some way today is an important day. Amongst other things it is also the first day of Av, which ends on the 9th day which is July 20th. This is a time when traditionally bad things happen to the Jews.



I may be a non-beleiver, but I have an open mind.

All Im saying, is the "stories" Im fed by books, posters, and others just dont make sense to me.

And when I ask questions, I get quoted scripture and people get pissed at me, so i get pissed and it goes nowhere.
All I want are some answers, and I may be able to grasp and beleive a few things.



First, I'd like to say that your patience is commendable. If it is answers you seek - I can appreciate where you're coming from. It is written that God does not want mindless dummies - he wants us to love him. This implies that there is choice. EDIT: He wants us to seek. He wants us to question everything. And, He doesn't want us to believe because we're afraid - but because of our deep appreciation of and love for Him. /endEDIT There is a personal relationship. And, that if there were no choice - we would not love someone... Love is a condition of the heart and not the mind or the body. You know what I am saying here?

If you would like a sincere conversation without persecution or honesty. edit: WITH (lol, not W/O honesty but WITH honesty) and with respect. /endEDIT I'd be glad to have that with you. I am not sure that it would be all that great to do this in open forum... But, whatever and however you'd like to have that, just let me know and I will personally make the time to have that convo with you.


I do want to point out, though, that Jesus had 12 legions of angels surrounding Him. He said he could have been relieved of his duty and purpose by uttering the words at any time during that fateful day. He chose to die. This is what He was purposed for but, He always had a way out. Just as Mary could have said no, so too could Jesus.

I do not believe that Jesus was murdered by God, but, by men.
 Quoting: Valent!ne


Ive got plenty of patience, and time.
Im sure we can figure something out, but since Im not a paying member I have no P.M....maybe I can give you some clues on how to find me....
Ill check this thread again tomorrow, til then..remember G.F.
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Re: HIZBALLAH ADVANCES 20,000 TROOPS TO ISRAELI BORDER ((Breaking)) Ahmadinejad to visit Beirut .
cowgal Another thing Valent!ne is the extremely hostile preaching atmosphere on most GLP threads. Now how many Christians jump right into a thread about Voodoo, or Satanism and preach, on a regular daily basis? There is just a few of us who do and we get followed about the forum by hostile people for our troubles.

Believe it or not back in 2004 I was actually extremely upset by all this. But now I have a hard Christian heart. Why? It comes from the psychic attacks, witches can and do send devils against Christians, but except for a bad dream every now and then it doesnt really bother me none. But think of this. If they are doing that to me, then what are they doing to other people.

Have you seen me on a Jew hating thread? I can go on for page after page after page. And that's ofton with three or four threads at a time, not just one.

What I am trying to say to you is that the Lord needs different types of folk for different types of jobs. It seems that you are more suited to working face to face over the long term with a few individuals, and I do wish you every success with it, there is obviously a need for that type of Christian.

Me? I go into the market place to preach to either a hostile, or at best an indifferent crowd. And I bring a basket of rotten eggs to throw back at those who throw moldy old cabbages or squishy apples at me.
 Quoting: 9teen.47™



Certainly, I can appreciate what you're doing here. A passion and heart for the Lord is an admirable and amazing thing to witness.

I only meant to say that God works inside of us - and as unique as we each are, individually, so is our relationship with Christ. So, if we miss a ministry opportunity that we have prayed to attain - then, we are at least partially to blame for that person's separation... Do you see what I mean? If we pray for God ordained encounters and opportunities to witness - when He presents them, I just want to be sure our eyes and hearts are open. Yes?

I do not dispute the validity of and the sometimes necessary use of scripture. I tend to use scripture more for someone who is having a difficult time understanding the Bible or for those who are vehemently against scripture and cherry pick without cross-referencing.

I was only saying that it is not the only way to witness or help.

Just that, God lives inside those who call on the Comforter... And, as such He talks to us and moves us internally. He also provides solid friendships and fellowship from a circle, usually, to test your heart against... Then, there is also the Bible. There are many ways to hear Him if He has taken up residence within us... And, we should live prayerfully throughout each day so that we don't miss it, you know? Scripture is only a part of that and it should not be the sole basis of your relationship. We are man and so, are errant. We do not always understand all that is presented - but, the Spirit will move us when we ask and listen/obey... I hope this is making sense.

Sometimes, people just need to see that we are lights in a dark dark world. Often, people want to believe but, things have become so muddled in the world that we can't tell our heads from our tails, you know? To understand that there is clarity in Christ can be a very foreign concept and if we just live as such, it can be enough to make someone wonder what it is that you have that helps you stay grounded... right? That's all I'm saying...

And, btw, I just love pointing out that the confusion that we exist in? Exactly what was prophesied... I marvel at the truth of the Bible because that's where I am in my walk. I also pray for peace and knowledge/wisdom when I get hung-up on meanings within the Biblical text. Deuteronomy 29 29 is a perfect testimony to why I just let some things alone and just trust that my God is in control and will reveal mysteries in time.

In a confusing world where we have someone who wants real-life and applicable testimony, I am of the mind that we should meet that person there, is all. I am sure each of your experiences is unique and if given the opportunity you would do the same...

Amen, for what you're doing... Keep your heart tender but protected. =)

p.s. I am all too aware of attacks. Sometimes they seem to be cloaked in goodness... But, deception lies just beneath. I sleep peacefully at night, now, because I have faith that my God is bigger, stronger, and higher than any other... And, I thank Him for sending His angels to ward off any evil spirits that might attempt to harass me while I sleep. And, I thank Him before I ever even nod off because I have faith in His truth and His presence. =) It's only when I have any fear in my heart at all for the enemy that I even have nightmares... I haven't had one in at least a year. Thank the Lord for that... Sounds a lot like what you have described.

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This thread was supposed to be about a possible war, now we are arguing about GOD, don't blame anyone what happens in the middle east because its all our faults.

blinker Relax and go with the flow 878385, it is Sunday/Monday morning after all. The thing with starting a thread on GLP is that it's always best to relax and just let people talk about the aspects that they want to.

I understand how this can be frustrating to a non-believer. But when all is said and done most of the posters have correctly understood in one way or another that we are in the end times, and that all of this is about the imminent return of Jesus Christ.

Another point is that instinctively (I think) many people realise that in some way today is an important day. Amongst other things it is also the first day of Av, which ends on the 9th day which is July 20th. This is a time when traditionally bad things happen to the Jews.



I may be a non-beleiver, but I have an open mind.

All Im saying, is the "stories" Im fed by books, posters, and others just dont make sense to me.

And when I ask questions, I get quoted scripture and people get pissed at me, so i get pissed and it goes nowhere.
All I want are some answers, and I may be able to grasp and beleive a few things.



First, I'd like to say that your patience is commendable. If it is answers you seek - I can appreciate where you're coming from. It is written that God does not want mindless dummies - he wants us to love him. This implies that there is choice. EDIT: He wants us to seek. He wants us to question everything. And, He doesn't want us to believe because we're afraid - but because of our deep appreciation of and love for Him. /endEDIT There is a personal relationship. And, that if there were no choice - we would not love someone... Love is a condition of the heart and not the mind or the body. You know what I am saying here?

If you would like a sincere conversation without persecution or honesty. edit: WITH (lol, not W/O honesty but WITH honesty) and with respect. /endEDIT I'd be glad to have that with you. I am not sure that it would be all that great to do this in open forum... But, whatever and however you'd like to have that, just let me know and I will personally make the time to have that convo with you.


I do want to point out, though, that Jesus had 12 legions of angels surrounding Him. He said he could have been relieved of his duty and purpose by uttering the words at any time during that fateful day. He chose to die. This is what He was purposed for but, He always had a way out. Just as Mary could have said no, so too could Jesus.

I do not believe that Jesus was murdered by God, but, by men.


Ive got plenty of patience, and time.
Im sure we can figure something out, but since Im not a paying member I have no P.M....maybe I can give you some clues on how to find me....
Ill check this thread again tomorrow, til then..remember G.F.
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Re: HIZBALLAH ADVANCES 20,000 TROOPS TO ISRAELI BORDER ((Breaking)) Ahmadinejad to visit Beirut .
kitty This is the sort of thing that the Jews have to deal with on a daily basis...




According to your logic this girl should commended because she's help bring about the "end times" prophecy, frustrating or what.
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The bringing about of the end times prophecy is great!
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Recently homosexuals have been making anti christian threads. Think about it.





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