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Message Subject HIZBALLAH ADVANCES 20,000 TROOPS TO ISRAELI BORDER ((Breaking)) Ahmadinejad to visit Beirut .
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This thread was supposed to be about a possible war, now we are arguing about GOD, don't blame anyone what happens in the middle east because its all our faults.

blinker Relax and go with the flow 878385, it is Sunday/Monday morning after all. The thing with starting a thread on GLP is that it's always best to relax and just let people talk about the aspects that they want to.

I understand how this can be frustrating to a non-believer. But when all is said and done most of the posters have correctly understood in one way or another that we are in the end times, and that all of this is about the imminent return of Jesus Christ.

Another point is that instinctively (I think) many people realise that in some way today is an important day. Amongst other things it is also the first day of Av, which ends on the 9th day which is July 20th. This is a time when traditionally bad things happen to the Jews.



I may be a non-beleiver, but I have an open mind.

All Im saying, is the "stories" Im fed by books, posters, and others just dont make sense to me.

And when I ask questions, I get quoted scripture and people get pissed at me, so i get pissed and it goes nowhere.
All I want are some answers, and I may be able to grasp and beleive a few things.
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First, I'd like to say that your patience is commendable. If it is answers you seek - I can appreciate where you're coming from. It is written that God does not want mindless dummies - he wants us to love him. This implies that there is choice. EDIT: He wants us to seek. He wants us to question everything. And, He doesn't want us to believe because we're afraid - but because of our deep appreciation of and love for Him. /endEDIT There is a personal relationship. And, that if there were no choice - we would not love someone... Love is a condition of the heart and not the mind or the body. You know what I am saying here?

If you would like a sincere conversation without persecution or honesty. edit: WITH (lol, not W/O honesty but WITH honesty) and with respect. /endEDIT I'd be glad to have that with you. I am not sure that it would be all that great to do this in open forum... But, whatever and however you'd like to have that, just let me know and I will personally make the time to have that convo with you.


I do want to point out, though, that Jesus had 12 legions of angels surrounding Him. He said he could have been relieved of his duty and purpose by uttering the words at any time during that fateful day. He chose to die. This is what He was purposed for but, He always had a way out. Just as Mary could have said no, so too could Jesus.

I do not believe that Jesus was murdered by God, but, by men.
 
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