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"Preppers," "Doomers," and "Survivalists,"
More and more Americans preparing for Social Unrest..

By Agence France-Presse
Saturday, July 10th, 2010 -- 4:35 pm

From the outside, Jerry Erwin's home in the northwestern US state of Oregon is a nondescript house with a manicured front lawn and little to differentiate it from those of his neighbors.

But tucked away out of sight in his backyard are the signs of his preparations for doomsday, a catastrophic societal collapse that Erwin, 45, now believes is likely within his lifetime.

"I've got, under an awning, stacks of firewood, rain catching in barrels, I've got a shed with barbed concertina wire, like the military uses," he told AFP.

He and his wife also have also stockpiled thousands of rounds of ammunition and enough food for about six months.

"Several years ago I worked on paying off the house, replacing all the windows, and just very recently, I'm proud to say, we've replaced all our exterior doors with more energy-efficient ones, with as much built-in security features as I could get," he told AFP.

"Plus I'm going to be adding some more structural improvements to the door frames to make it hopefully virtually impossible to take a battering ram to them."

Erwin and others like him in the United States and elsewhere see political upheaval and natural disasters as clear signs that civilization is doomed.

"We're hitting on all cylinders as far as symptoms that have led other great powers to decline or collapse: resource depletion, damage to the environment, climate change, those are the same things that affected other great societies," he said.

For Erwin, the decline is irreversible and the best approach is to prepare for the inevitable.

His pessimism is shared by a wide range of people, from left-wing environmentalists who believe climate change and capitalist greed will doom human society to Christian fundamentalists who think sin will do the same.

They label themselves "preppers," "doomers," and "survivalists," and take a variety of different approaches to the same question: How best to prepare for the coming apocalypse?

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good story and i like your cool avatar the question is "are you ready?" peace
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Preppers Doomer and Survivalists.

You do understand the Government has been all these things for well over probably eighty years. Guns, ammo, and cans of chef Boyardee? That's not gonna work, sorry. Maybe if you wanna fuck up your neighbor, but if so, I'll lay you odds that's what your supposed to do. Gook Luck!
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good story and i like your cool avatar the question is "are you ready?" peace
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I don't think any one can be truly ready..but I would like to think I am prepared...
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It's coming so you better be ready for it. The question is what is "it"? There are so many things coming together that you really can't prepare for all the possibilities, so you just do your best. I recommend at least a years food and water, (and that would include for friends and family you may need to secure you property) in a mobile position in case you are forced to leave. Of coarse keeping the stuff you prepared is equally important so you will need guns and ammo, and I don't mean enough to go to the shooting range next Saturday. I mean enough to protect you home and supplies for a year or two. HOPE FOR THE BEST, BUT PREPARE FOR THE WORST!
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It's coming so you better be ready for it. The question is what is "it"? There are so many things coming together that you really can't prepare for all the possibilities, so you just do your best. I recommend at least a years food and water, (and that would include for friends and family you may need to secure you property) in a mobile position in case you are forced to leave. Of coarse keeping the stuff you prepared is equally important so you will need guns and ammo, and I don't mean enough to go to the shooting range next Saturday. I mean enough to protect you home and supplies for a year or two. HOPE FOR THE BEST, BUT PREPARE FOR THE WORST!
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The current likely scenario is something along the lines of a GLOBAL economic collapse....but it could be a PHYSICAL disaster, like in the Gulf too....only WORSE.

The best approach is PREPPING enough supplies to last you for a MINIMUM of 6 months.
It will take that long for the government or military to control the marauding zombie mobs who DIDN'T PREPARE.

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"Emergency Preparedness" is the eight most searched term on Yahoo right now from what I understand. I expect it to move up the list soon.
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"Emergency Preparedness" is the eight most searched term on Yahoo right now from what I understand. I expect it to move up the list soon.
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"Emergency Preparedness" is the eight most searched term on Yahoo right now from what I understand. I expect it to move up the list soon.
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Lol where did you hear that, its not.
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"Emergency Preparedness" is the eight most searched term on Yahoo right now from what I understand. I expect it to move up the list soon.



Lol where did you hear that, its not.
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....said the soon to be resident of a FEMA CAMP.

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"Emergency Preparedness" is the eight most searched term on Yahoo right now from what I understand. I expect it to move up the list soon.



Lol where did you hear that, its not.


....said the soon to be resident of a FEMA CAMP.

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No said the guy who took 5 secs and looked it up.
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"Plus I'm going to be adding some more structural improvements to the door frames to make it hopefully virtually impossible to take a battering ram to them."
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Yeah, that seems like a good idea for a few minutes after you first start thinking about it. But then you realize that people don't have to break into your house if you are inside. All they have to do is threaten to burn it down with you inside it, and you will open the door right up to them and let them enter without any violence at all.
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Re: "Preppers," "Doomers," and "Survivalists,"
the walls of most homes are: vinyl siding,blue foam, insulation, and drywall. it would take me about 10 seconds to go through most any wall and be inside

glad to hear more are prepping, i have only been doing it about 20 years now. it has saved my ass twice so far.
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All they have to do is threaten to burn it down with you inside it, and you will open the door right up to them and let them enter without any violence at all.
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Wrong, you simply send a high velocity round through their head which ceases further threat of burning you or your family up, see how easy that is.
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the walls of most homes are: vinyl siding,blue foam, insulation, and drywall. it would take me about 10 seconds to go through most any wall and be inside

glad to hear more are prepping, i have only been doing it about 20 years now. it has saved my ass twice so far.
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No shit..care to tell us..
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the walls of most homes are: vinyl siding,blue foam, insulation, and drywall. it would take me about 10 seconds to go through most any wall and be inside

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In which case...you would then CERTAINLY have the right to DEFEND YOURSELF by whatever means necessary.


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Total Doom isn't..

Necessarily a Bad Thing..


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the walls of most homes are: vinyl siding,blue foam, insulation, and drywall. it would take me about 10 seconds to go through most any wall and be inside



In which case...you would then CERTAINLY have the right to DEFEND YOURSELF by whatever means necessary.


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predator1


and a

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Good Article. Good Catch.
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Total Doom isn't..

Necessarily a Bad Thing..

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...for those who have prepared YES...
...but for the SHEEP....NO it is not.

In that situation, just look out for all the "city zombies" who will come looking for what you have.

In a true collapse....you cannot live in the cities.
Cities produce nothing of sustainability....they only CONSUME.
Therefore those who live in the city will start "swarming" back to the suburbs and farms looking for resources and food.

At some point though....the government will kick in to help...assuming it is intact....and then it will get better to a degree.
...but that could take a LONG while and you have to be able to "weather the storm."

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Re: "Preppers," "Doomers," and "Survivalists,"
the walls of most homes are: vinyl siding,blue foam, insulation, and drywall. it would take me about 10 seconds to go through most any wall and be inside



In which case...you would then CERTAINLY have the right to DEFEND YOURSELF by whatever means necessary.


dead3


predator1


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Good Article. Good Catch.
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It Only Hurts If You Care...
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y waste ur money on that shit, just buy some fucking vodka and partay
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y waste ur money on that shit, just buy some fucking vodka and partay
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what makes you think we aren't still partying...hmmm
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y waste ur money on that shit, just buy some fucking vodka and partay
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Survival preparedness IS my Vodka.
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y waste ur money on that shit, just buy some fucking vodka and partay
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...says the DRONE who will be trying to break in your door for food, or stealing from your garden should everything go to crap.

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The only thing I'm preparing for is H5N1. I want a fucking outbreak so I can go run to Wal-Mart and see if they have any duct tape left, and maybe some FiberPlus cereal and some microwave dinners. Yeah, I realize i won't be prepared for such...

Nuclear, mexican aliens, anything else, who cares. I'll just let em get at me. I'll aim my old spice at em with a match and torch those mofos.

- vodka guy
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The only thing I'm preparing for is H5N1. I want a fucking outbreak so I can go run to Wal-Mart and see if they have any duct tape left, and maybe some FiberPlus cereal and some microwave dinners. Yeah, I realize i won't be prepared for such...

Nuclear, mexican aliens, anything else, who cares. I'll just let em get at me. I'll aim my old spice at em with a match and torch those mofos.

- vodka guy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030019



Well...at least you KNOW your screwed....so that's a start.

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