My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure | |
Burt Gummer User ID: 989406 ![]() 07/12/2010 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure Was it worth shortening your own lifespans just to "see for yourself"?...especially without protective breathing gear? ![]() The Hydrogen Sulfide and Benzene and other chemicals you were breathing are NEUROTOXINS. ....and the damage to your system is ONE WAY.....you cannot reverse it. The average age of the DEATH of the cleanup crews from the Exxon Valdez was 51 years old Only ONE survives at the moment...and he is sick too. Smarten up. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 07/12/2010 10:00 PM |
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proudamerican User ID: 881763 ![]() 07/12/2010 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure Thank you for the report, but please do not go back out there for any reason.Your health and well being is what is most important. May God Bless Each and every one of you and keep you safe from harm. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 989406 ![]() 07/12/2010 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure Don't get me wrong...the report was WELCOME... ....but you are REALLY NOT BEING SMART by going out there UNPROTECTED. Sorry....but that unprotected sail broke the DUMB-METER. ![]() Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 07/12/2010 10:19 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1019444 ![]() 07/12/2010 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure I was on a sailboat yesterday [Sunday, July 11] all day from 7AM until just after 7PM. We went into the Gulf of Mexico to see what might be there. About 4 miles west of the harbour inlet, we all started coughing and felt short of breath. It was impossible to take a deep breath without coughing. The wind was coming directly from the west at about 10-15 knots most of the afternoon. There was no visible oil on the water surface. Quoting: Oiled in FloridaWe saw dozens of bull-nose sharks and dolphins all heading east towards the coast and into Charlotte Harbor. As soon as everyone had a dry cough, we quickly turned east and headed back to the harbour under both sail and engine power. All five of us had irritated eyes (itchy) and a dry cough the entire time out there. The coughing slowed when we got to our dock at the marina and stopped within minutes after we got into our cars and turned on the air conditioning (recirculating, not fresh air). I physically feel as if I've been drugged or badly beaten. Every joint aches, yet there is no reason for this as I did no physical activity that would warrant body and especially joint aches like this. The same goes for the other four who were with me. By my many years of military experience, I have no doubt I was poisoned with the air blowing directly from the west while we were in the open water of the Gulf. Now, all of us can take deep breaths again without coughing, so there is no doubt we were exposed to toxic fumes when we were offshore in the Gulf. As soon as we got back to the house, we all took a teaspoon of Bentonite Clay (internally) to absorb any toxins and also took clay baths (2 oz. of clay powder for a tub full of water) to absorb the toxins from our skin (two of us had red blotches on our arms and legs). I took another teaspoon of clay mixed with juice this morning because of my joint aches (I was affected the most with this). I'm feeling much better now and no-one is coughing. I made everyone drink elderberry tea early yesterday evening as this stops lung infections and pneumonia as well as soothes coughing urges. It worked almost instantly as everyone slept last night (Sunday evening) without coughing. Don't believe ANYTHING the MSM tells you about the Gulf of Mexico. While we're not affected on land in our area, the toxins are in the air just miles away from the shoreline. For the first time in over eight weeks, we had a westerly wind yesterday. Today, the wind is from the south again. 'They' are definitely controlling the weather as southerly winds for all of May, June, and 1/2 of July is abnormal in SW Florida. There were no fishing boats out in the Gulf like we always see. We were the only boat outside the inlet at Boca Grande with the exception of a few small fishing boats in the shallow water near the shoreline. It's a good thing I knew the symptoms of toxic air and treated everyone last night. Imagine the fishermen who go out into the Gulf and breathe the toxins all day long. They must all be thinking they have the flu when there is no doubt they have been poisoned with toxic air... and myself and four others are absolute proof of this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1031921 ![]() 07/12/2010 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure OIF...that was brave, but stupid, sorry to say. I wish you all would have had protective gear with you, at least respirators or masks. Please don't do that again! I've no doubt in my mind that the MSM and our government is lying to us. We see it daily here on GLP with witness testimony to the events down there. Dang gurl! |
sailormon User ID: 1034451 ![]() 07/12/2010 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure I was on a sailboat yesterday [Sunday, July 11] all day from 7AM until just after 7PM. We went into the Gulf of Mexico to see what might be there. About 4 miles west of the harbour inlet, we all started coughing and felt short of breath. It was impossible to take a deep breath without coughing. The wind was coming directly from the west at about 10-15 knots most of the afternoon. There was no visible oil on the water surface. Quoting: Oiled in FloridaWe saw dozens of bull-nose sharks and dolphins all heading east towards the coast and into Charlotte Harbor. As soon as everyone had a dry cough, we quickly turned east and headed back to the harbour under both sail and engine power. All five of us had irritated eyes (itchy) and a dry cough the entire time out there. The coughing slowed when we got to our dock at the marina and stopped within minutes after we got into our cars and turned on the air conditioning (recirculating, not fresh air). I physically feel as if I've been drugged or badly beaten. Every joint aches, yet there is no reason for this as I did no physical activity that would warrant body and especially joint aches like this. The same goes for the other four who were with me. By my many years of military experience, I have no doubt I was poisoned with the air blowing directly from the west while we were in the open water of the Gulf. Now, all of us can take deep breaths again without coughing, so there is no doubt we were exposed to toxic fumes when we were offshore in the Gulf. As soon as we got back to the house, we all took a teaspoon of Bentonite Clay (internally) to absorb any toxins and also took clay baths (2 oz. of clay powder for a tub full of water) to absorb the toxins from our skin (two of us had red blotches on our arms and legs). I took another teaspoon of clay mixed with juice this morning because of my joint aches (I was affected the most with this). I'm feeling much better now and no-one is coughing. I made everyone drink elderberry tea early yesterday evening as this stops lung infections and pneumonia as well as soothes coughing urges. It worked almost instantly as everyone slept last night (Sunday evening) without coughing. Don't believe ANYTHING the MSM tells you about the Gulf of Mexico. While we're not affected on land in our area, the toxins are in the air just miles away from the shoreline. For the first time in over eight weeks, we had a westerly wind yesterday. Today, the wind is from the south again. 'They' are definitely controlling the weather as southerly winds for all of May, June, and 1/2 of July is abnormal in SW Florida. There were no fishing boats out in the Gulf like we always see. We were the only boat outside the inlet at Boca Grande with the exception of a few small fishing boats in the shallow water near the shoreline. It's a good thing I knew the symptoms of toxic air and treated everyone last night. Imagine the fishermen who go out into the Gulf and breathe the toxins all day long. They must all be thinking they have the flu when there is no doubt they have been poisoned with toxic air... and myself and four others are absolute proof of this. Thanks for the post and later please update if it comes inland. We have a home up alligator creek, punta gorda. For now we are in N. MI. and may stay here if it gets bad there. Surly we will miss sailing our F27 next season, but life is better lived than not. As you know, I sail the same waters as you. ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1025098 ![]() 07/12/2010 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure I was on a sailboat yesterday [Sunday, July 11] all day from 7AM until just after 7PM. We went into the Gulf of Mexico to see what might be there. About 4 miles west of the harbour inlet, we all started coughing and felt short of breath. It was impossible to take a deep breath without coughing. The wind was coming directly from the west at about 10-15 knots most of the afternoon. There was no visible oil on the water surface. Quoting: Oiled in FloridaWe saw dozens of bull-nose sharks and dolphins all heading east towards the coast and into Charlotte Harbor. As soon as everyone had a dry cough, we quickly turned east and headed back to the harbour under both sail and engine power. All five of us had irritated eyes (itchy) and a dry cough the entire time out there. The coughing slowed when we got to our dock at the marina and stopped within minutes after we got into our cars and turned on the air conditioning (recirculating, not fresh air). I physically feel as if I've been drugged or badly beaten. Every joint aches, yet there is no reason for this as I did no physical activity that would warrant body and especially joint aches like this. The same goes for the other four who were with me. By my many years of military experience, I have no doubt I was poisoned with the air blowing directly from the west while we were in the open water of the Gulf. Now, all of us can take deep breaths again without coughing, so there is no doubt we were exposed to toxic fumes when we were offshore in the Gulf. As soon as we got back to the house, we all took a teaspoon of Bentonite Clay (internally) to absorb any toxins and also took clay baths (2 oz. of clay powder for a tub full of water) to absorb the toxins from our skin (two of us had red blotches on our arms and legs). I took another teaspoon of clay mixed with juice this morning because of my joint aches (I was affected the most with this). I'm feeling much better now and no-one is coughing. I made everyone drink elderberry tea early yesterday evening as this stops lung infections and pneumonia as well as soothes coughing urges. It worked almost instantly as everyone slept last night (Sunday evening) without coughing. Don't believe ANYTHING the MSM tells you about the Gulf of Mexico. While we're not affected on land in our area, the toxins are in the air just miles away from the shoreline. For the first time in over eight weeks, we had a westerly wind yesterday. Today, the wind is from the south again. 'They' are definitely controlling the weather as southerly winds for all of May, June, and 1/2 of July is abnormal in SW Florida. There were no fishing boats out in the Gulf like we always see. We were the only boat outside the inlet at Boca Grande with the exception of a few small fishing boats in the shallow water near the shoreline. It's a good thing I knew the symptoms of toxic air and treated everyone last night. Imagine the fishermen who go out into the Gulf and breathe the toxins all day long. They must all be thinking they have the flu when there is no doubt they have been poisoned with toxic air... and myself and four others are absolute proof of this. Your title said RED TIDE yet qwhen i read through your story i didnt sea mention of the RED TIDE. |
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J.H.F.C. User ID: 889802 ![]() 07/13/2010 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure I was on a sailboat yesterday [Sunday, July 11] all day from 7AM until just after 7PM. We went into the Gulf of Mexico to see what might be there. About 4 miles west of the harbour inlet, we all started coughing and felt short of breath. It was impossible to take a deep breath without coughing. The wind was coming directly from the west at about 10-15 knots most of the afternoon. There was no visible oil on the water surface. Quoting: Oiled in FloridaWe saw dozens of bull-nose sharks and dolphins all heading east towards the coast and into Charlotte Harbor. As soon as everyone had a dry cough, we quickly turned east and headed back to the harbour under both sail and engine power. All five of us had irritated eyes (itchy) and a dry cough the entire time out there. The coughing slowed when we got to our dock at the marina and stopped within minutes after we got into our cars and turned on the air conditioning (recirculating, not fresh air). I physically feel as if I've been drugged or badly beaten. Every joint aches, yet there is no reason for this as I did no physical activity that would warrant body and especially joint aches like this. The same goes for the other four who were with me. By my many years of military experience, I have no doubt I was poisoned with the air blowing directly from the west while we were in the open water of the Gulf. Now, all of us can take deep breaths again without coughing, so there is no doubt we were exposed to toxic fumes when we were offshore in the Gulf. As soon as we got back to the house, we all took a teaspoon of Bentonite Clay (internally) to absorb any toxins and also took clay baths (2 oz. of clay powder for a tub full of water) to absorb the toxins from our skin (two of us had red blotches on our arms and legs). I took another teaspoon of clay mixed with juice this morning because of my joint aches (I was affected the most with this). I'm feeling much better now and no-one is coughing. I made everyone drink elderberry tea early yesterday evening as this stops lung infections and pneumonia as well as soothes coughing urges. It worked almost instantly as everyone slept last night (Sunday evening) without coughing. Don't believe ANYTHING the MSM tells you about the Gulf of Mexico. While we're not affected on land in our area, the toxins are in the air just miles away from the shoreline. For the first time in over eight weeks, we had a westerly wind yesterday. Today, the wind is from the south again. 'They' are definitely controlling the weather as southerly winds for all of May, June, and 1/2 of July is abnormal in SW Florida. There were no fishing boats out in the Gulf like we always see. We were the only boat outside the inlet at Boca Grande with the exception of a few small fishing boats in the shallow water near the shoreline. It's a good thing I knew the symptoms of toxic air and treated everyone last night. Imagine the fishermen who go out into the Gulf and breathe the toxins all day long. They must all be thinking they have the flu when there is no doubt they have been poisoned with toxic air... and myself and four others are absolute proof of this. The EPA has deemed the air in the Gulf as safe. So STFU! And if you post something like this again, you may be investigated by any one or all the the following: FBI CIA DIA NSA NASA BATF USCG USN USAF BP GB-MI5 GB-MI6 The White House The Democratic Party The Republican Party The Governor of California The Intelligence Agencies of Mexico (And I don't want to mention any of the others for fear they would kill me!) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 989800 ![]() 07/13/2010 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure i hope that boat is a christian or it will burn in hell Quoting: Anonymous Coward 898092![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1020534 ![]() 07/13/2010 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure Don't get me wrong...the report was WELCOME... Quoting: Burt Gummer....but you are REALLY NOT BEING SMART by going out there UNPROTECTED. Sorry....but that unprotected sail broke the DUMB-METER. ![]() The Bentonite Clay treatment will really help. But OP is dealing with Benzene here. He should look into taking activated charcoal as well. In fact everybody in the Gulf should be taking activated charcoal. It's in Emergency Room protocols. There was a story posted recently about a severe Benzene exposure treated with charcoal effectively. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 989406 ![]() 07/13/2010 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure Don't get me wrong...the report was WELCOME... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1020534....but you are REALLY NOT BEING SMART by going out there UNPROTECTED. Sorry....but that unprotected sail broke the DUMB-METER. ![]() The Bentonite Clay treatment will really help. But OP is dealing with Benzene here. He should look into taking activated charcoal as well. In fact everybody in the Gulf should be taking activated charcoal. It's in Emergency Room protocols. There was a story posted recently about a severe Benzene exposure treated with charcoal effectively. ...but it does NOTHING for Hydrogen Sulfide....which is heavier than air and lingers close to the ground. Breathe this stuff at full strength...and you are dead in about 5 seconds. Past a certain point too....you can't even smell it....and that is likely what they were breathing and couldn't figure out why they were coughing. ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1026980 ![]() 07/13/2010 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure It seems a little strange to me that you actually stayed out on the water from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. with all the coughing, etc .... I would have thought you'd all have realized the danger and headed immediately back in to land!! Please explain, or something is fishy about your post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1032179The coughing didn't start until we got offshore more than 3 miles. We thought it was what's called red tide, an algae bloom, because you cough and your eyes get irritated from that. As I said in the opening post, we saw no oil slick or anything unusual with the water itself. It takes 1+ hours to prepare a sailboat before leaving the dock and 2 hours to wash it down and get all the covers back on. It took almost 4 hours to get to the inlet at Boca Grande under sail and another 2 hours to get offshore that far with a westerly wind. Getting back as fast as we could to the dock under sail and power took us about 3 hours. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1026980 ![]() 07/13/2010 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure This is total crap. Have lived in that area for years. This is a typical Red Tide, the algae bloom comes every year in the hot weather, it burns your throat and makes you cough. It was there before the oil and will be there after the oil is gone. The simptoms go away when you get out of the spores in the air, bentonite does nothing but make you constipated. I have experienced this many times. Get a life! Quoting: sparker1 1034827You don't get skin rashes from red tide. I've lived here and sailed here for 20 years. I know perfectly well what red tide is and what the symptoms are since I've experienced it many times. You don't get flu symptoms such as achy joints from red tide. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1026980 ![]() 07/13/2010 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure i hope that boat is a christian or it will burn in hell Quoting: Anonymous Coward 989800![]() Pictures of what? A day sailing with family? I have a picture of a Manatee at the dock because it was unusual and pictures of my family which I won't post publicly. It's not like I was sailing in the middle of an oil slick. It's the air that caused our symptoms and we weren't swimming in the water. |
Oiled in Florida (OP) User ID: 1026980 ![]() 07/13/2010 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure Your title said RED TIDE yet qwhen i read through your story i didnt sea mention of the RED TIDE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1025098The title says Red Tide and/or flu SYMPTOMS. It could have been red tide except that red tide doesn't make you ache all over or make your joints ache or give you red patchy rashes. As far as I can tell after researching on the internet this morning, it was most likely benzine that caused the symptoms. I'm surely not an expert and all I wanted to do was make sure people realize that 4 miles or more offshore the Port Charlotte area - with a westerly wind - it was a bad place to be. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 553712 ![]() 07/13/2010 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure "We went into the Gulf of Mexico to see what might be there. About 4 miles west of the harbour inlet..." The GOM is a big place. Exactly where were you? Which "harbour inlet"? |
Oiled in Florida (OP) User ID: 1026980 ![]() 07/13/2010 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure Thanks for the post and later please update if it comes inland. We have a home up alligator creek, punta gorda. For now we are in N. MI. and may stay here if it gets bad there. Surly we will miss sailing our F27 next season, but life is better lived than not. As you know, I sail the same waters as you. Quoting: sailormon 1034451![]() The coughing started well offshore even with the westerly wind. Once we returned to Boca Grande inlet and back into Charlotte Harbor, it was far less irritating to our eyes and lungs. Without a doubt, whatever was in the air well offshore had not yet blown onto land... and the wind was changing to the SSW while we were heading to PGI. |
Oiled in Florida (OP) User ID: 1026980 ![]() 07/13/2010 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure "We went into the Gulf of Mexico to see what might be there. About 4 miles west of the harbour inlet..." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553712The GOM is a big place. Exactly where were you? Which "harbour inlet"? This time of year, there are usually a lot of sailboats 2-4 miles out. The wind is stronger there than in the harbour so we were out looking to see who we could race with up the coast towards Sarasota as we've done many times over 20 years of sailing here. If you read what I've posted, you'll know we were offshore of Boca Grande, west of Port Charlotte harbour. Perhaps if your read the title to this thread, you'd get a big clue? Last Edited by Oiled In Florida on 07/13/2010 10:05 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034239 ![]() 07/13/2010 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Boating 'Experience' Into the Gulf Offshore Pt. Charlotte FL - Toxic Air - Red Tide/Flu Symptoms - COREXIT or other gas exposure I was always leery of GOM, it seems more a septic tank than anything else and that's on good days. Grouper, rock fish and oysters? No thanks. Seaside Heights was cool before MTV and porch monkeys invaded. Now it needs nuclears |