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3 police shoot and kill man in Costco carrying a concealed weapon - and permit

 
Miss Kitty

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12/20/2011 08:53 AM

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This reminds me about the dozens of police brutality topics....

Internet Tough guys saying "If everyone in the US would carry concealed weapns we wouldn't have shis this.. Cops would know their place"(thick Texan accent)...

Wheheheeeeehe ROFL In your face go ahead wear your concealed weapons... Live by the guy Die by the gun..

Guntards.. living in an alternate reality..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7402371


Ah yes! Another trained monkey. Didn't an area of the Netherlands have a massacre lately? Just think how many of those innocent children, let alone adults, may have been saved if only there weren't such draconian gun ownership laws imposed on the citizens.
Anonymous Coward
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12/20/2011 08:55 AM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


You are from Canada "Eat?" If you are, according to the listing of your post, you don't have much choice anyway, do you? Spoken like a good little liberal ninny "Eat" and that probably makes you a model citizen. What a guy!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


Since when does local law restrain your personal preference? Sure it limits his choice to carry but obviously you do not understand what drives a discussion.

Incredibly stupid post to say the least... eh?
Miss Kitty

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12/20/2011 09:01 AM

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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


You are from Canada "Eat?" If you are, according to the listing of your post, you don't have much choice anyway, do you? Spoken like a good little liberal ninny "Eat" and that probably makes you a model citizen. What a guy!
 Quoting: Miss Kitty


Since when does local law restrain your personal preference? Sure it limits his choice to carry but obviously you do not understand what drives a discussion.

Incredibly stupid post to say the least... eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7402371


Well, you are entitled to your incredibility stupid opinion Netherlands ....... eh?
Madame X

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12/20/2011 09:28 AM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


I'm not either, but I am a big fan of Canucks!
hf
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s. d. butler

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12/20/2011 03:19 PM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


Ahhh.. I see. You want the ever-so-trustworthy police and military to be the only ones allowed to defend themselves.

Smart.. Really smart.








































Fucking idiot.
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Good summary. Especially the last.
Sledster

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12/20/2011 03:24 PM

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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
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Stay the fuck in Canada then.
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick.
ifSHTF

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12/20/2011 03:29 PM
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maybe his Costco card had expired and he entered the store illegally ?

jus sayin.
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someone from the NRA should contact costco on their stance on this matter. I will hands down refuse to spend another dime in that store if they are anti-2A.
Anonymous Coward
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02/25/2012 06:00 AM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


Yeah... we should make sure that ONLY cops and military possess 100% of the means of coercive force. We don't have enough of a police state yet.

And dangerous criminals are being put at risk by armed citizens. we really don't want that, either.

But most of all, we want to make sure that fans of helpless law-abiding citizens (like yourself) are happy.
Anonymous Coward
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02/25/2012 06:00 AM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


I'm not a big fan of Canadians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1027887


X 1000
Anonymous Coward
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02/25/2012 06:01 AM
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I am sure it was caught on their security cameras.
 Quoting: Just A Thought


The video was confiscated immediately.
ZIPUX

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02/25/2012 06:23 AM
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How did you get that from reading that report? It sounds justified. If I have a gun as a civilian and another civilian is acting strange and appearing to draw he weapon then his mistake would be not to shoot me dead first, cause I'm blowing him away..... Now everyone knows cops have guns and are itching to use it.... you have to pick your battles. Sounds like this guy picked poorly.

RE-READ THE THREAD!!!!

Attorney Ross Goodman represents Scott's family. He says Scott never pulled a gun and was not acting in a threatening way toward officers. He says other witnesses will back that up. Some comments on 8NewsNOW.com from people who claim to have witnessed the shooting agree with Goodman.

One person wrote, "I saw the whole thing go down from start to finish, and the cops were trigger happy. The guy never had a chance." "I was there, and I never saw this guy do anything with his gun," another person wrote. "The police started shooting immediately after ‘drop it' was yelled."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984012

he was told to get on the ground and he did not comply
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1022207


'Comply' or you will die. Fuck man no wonder I have never been, or will ever go to the States.
ZIPUX

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02/25/2012 06:27 AM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


Stay the fuck in Canada then.
 Quoting: Sledster


The person has a 'right' to an opinion, yes?

You stay the fuck in Germany, and I'll never go to the states.

Can't believe the 'tossers' in here, yes you, making such remarks.
Anonymous Coward
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02/25/2012 07:09 AM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


Stay the fuck in Canada then.
 Quoting: Sledster


The person has a 'right' to an opinion, yes?

You stay the fuck in Germany, and I'll never go to the states.

Can't believe the 'tossers' in here, yes you, making such remarks.
 Quoting: ZIPUX


Canucktards.

UK tards.

Nethertards.

Where's the Aussietards at?
Anonymous Coward
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02/25/2012 07:21 AM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


I'm not a big fan of Canadians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1027887


Not even William Shatner?
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 07:32 AM
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How did you get that from reading that report? It sounds justified. If I have a gun as a civilian and another civilian is acting strange and appearing to draw he weapon then his mistake would be not to shoot me dead first, cause I'm blowing him away..... Now everyone knows cops have guns and are itching to use it.... you have to pick your battles. Sounds like this guy picked poorly.

RE-READ THE THREAD!!!!

Attorney Ross Goodman represents Scott's family. He says Scott never pulled a gun and was not acting in a threatening way toward officers. He says other witnesses will back that up. Some comments on 8NewsNOW.com from people who claim to have witnessed the shooting agree with Goodman.

One person wrote, "I saw the whole thing go down from start to finish, and the cops were trigger happy. The guy never had a chance." "I was there, and I never saw this guy do anything with his gun," another person wrote. "The police started shooting immediately after ‘drop it' was yelled."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984012

he was told to get on the ground and he did not comply
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1022207

UNLESS HE HAS BROKEN A LAW THAT THE COP WITNESSED OR HE HAS A WARRANT, HE HAS NO OBLIGATION WHATSOEVER TO OBEY A COMMAND BY A POLICE OFFICE. HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM.

THIS WAS MURDER, MAYBE PREMEDITATED FIRST DEGREE DEPENDING ON WHAT WAS SAID BY THE OFFICERS BEFORE THE SHOOTING.
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 07:35 AM
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I'm not a big fan of allowing the public to carry concealed weapons.
 Quoting: ºEATº


Stay the fuck in Canada then.
 Quoting: Sledster


The person has a 'right' to an opinion, yes?

You stay the fuck in Germany, and I'll never go to the states.

Can't believe the 'tossers' in here, yes you, making such remarks.
 Quoting: ZIPUX


cANSIANS ARE GUTLESS PUSSIES AND NEED TO MIND THEIR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS AND WORRY ABOUT THIER OWN SAD SATTE OF AFFAIRS.
WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THE NATIVE AMERICANS MURDERED AND RAPED BY THESE GHOULS

AIM,WS -RWH
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 07:36 AM
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How did you get that from reading that report? It sounds justified. If I have a gun as a civilian and another civilian is acting strange and appearing to draw he weapon then his mistake would be not to shoot me dead first, cause I'm blowing him away..... Now everyone knows cops have guns and are itching to use it.... you have to pick your battles. Sounds like this guy picked poorly.

RE-READ THE THREAD!!!!

Attorney Ross Goodman represents Scott's family. He says Scott never pulled a gun and was not acting in a threatening way toward officers. He says other witnesses will back that up. Some comments on 8NewsNOW.com from people who claim to have witnessed the shooting agree with Goodman.

One person wrote, "I saw the whole thing go down from start to finish, and the cops were trigger happy. The guy never had a chance." "I was there, and I never saw this guy do anything with his gun," another person wrote. "The police started shooting immediately after ‘drop it' was yelled."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984012

he was told to get on the ground and he did not comply
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1022207

UNLESS HE HAS BROKEN A LAW THAT THE COP WITNESSED OR HE HAS A WARRANT, HE HAS NO OBLIGATION WHATSOEVER TO OBEY A COMMAND BY A POLICE OFFICE. HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM.

THIS WAS MURDER, MAYBE PREMEDITATED FIRST DEGREE DEPENDING ON WHAT WAS SAID BY THE OFFICERS BEFORE THE SHOOTING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1391681

OH, AND BTW, IF THE COPS DREW THEIR WEAPONS, HE HAD THE RIGHT OF SELF DEFENSE, ACCORDING TO SEVERAL SUPREME COURT AND LOWER COURT RULINGS.
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 07:39 AM
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maybe his Costco card had expired and he entered the store illegally ?

jus sayin.
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someone from the NRA should contact costco on their stance on this matter. I will hands down refuse to spend another dime in that store if they are anti-2A.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Thye already lost my business. They had a man murdered because he told their security staff to fuck off.
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 07:42 AM
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All you dumb fucks defending the police need to get it through your heads that they are bound by precisely the same laws and rules of entanglement we are when it comes to self defense according to the law. Public policy and law are two different things. That's why we have jury trials....When push comes to shove, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 08:06 AM
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bump FOR CITIZEN AWARENESS
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 08:11 AM
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In the Mayan calender year 5127,(2012) according to the Mayan belief system, the year is lead by the Kab'lajuj E, or 12th Road, which represents the "change of authority" in the new time, the path forward and the destiny of peoples."

JUSTICE IS COMING. CAN YOU FEEL IT YET?
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 08:12 AM
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If i were a cop, I'd resign and beg forgiveness today
Anonymous Coward
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02/25/2012 08:16 AM
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Police are more dangerous then the people. especially in packs.

I think they should be disarmed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1127413


I could not agree more... I mean they are supposed to be protecting and serving, and arresting people not delivering street justice to those they deem guilty! Someone needs to stop them and soon! This is old, last year, but its become obvious over the past couple years that our police force is out of control with power. Something has changed in thier training, when we figure out what that change was, we might have a fighting chance, until then, we will continue to be at the mercy of evil power hungry pissed off men that think the people they are protecting are all the enemey, until a judge says otherwise, not that they are willing to let a judge pass sentence before they administer thier own justice! Heaven help us all!
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Honest people don't become police ... any criminal knows that
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 08:33 AM
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Police are more dangerous then the people. especially in packs.

I think they should be disarmed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1127413


I could not agree more... I mean they are supposed to be protecting and serving, and arresting people not delivering street justice to those they deem guilty! Someone needs to stop them and soon! This is old, last year, but its become obvious over the past couple years that our police force is out of control with power. Something has changed in thier training, when we figure out what that change was, we might have a fighting chance, until then, we will continue to be at the mercy of evil power hungry pissed off men that think the people they are protecting are all the enemey, until a judge says otherwise, not that they are willing to let a judge pass sentence before they administer thier own justice! Heaven help us all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328578


Honest people don't become police ... any criminal knows that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1832654


Anonymous Coward
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02/25/2012 08:36 AM
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good old "conceal it and they will carry you away".

cant believe the morans didn't see this coming.
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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02/25/2012 08:52 AM
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good old "conceal it and they will carry you away".

cant believe the morans didn't see this coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11341954


They never would have made it out of their holsters if they drew on me like that.

I practice quick draw and neck shots as often as possible. The second amendment is clear on the citizens right to keep and bear arms.
A citizen has the right to resist an illegal arrest ,or to defend themselves against illegal police aggression. This was clearly illegal police aggression, and the police can say whatever they want but a camera doesn't lie. If you make it a me or you situation, I'm going to make it you and let a jury decide my guilt or innocence.

The supreme court of the United States has repeatedly ruled that citizens have the right to resist an unlawful arrest or to defend themselves against illegal aggression by police officers, using whatever force is made necessary.

I am not suggesting people guilty of criminal activity or observed in the act of criminal activity, or who have lawfully signed warrants against them shoot police, or even draw on them, but when your life or liberty is unlawfully threatened, DEFEND YOURSELF for Christs sake, and demand a jury trial.

A cop is just another criminal once he crosses that line. Don't run, drop your firearm and turn yourself into the sheriff.

Let a jury decide. Juries are made up of citizens, the vast majority of which have either been abused by the police themselves or know someone they love who has. Since the police are always armed and quick to use deadly force, the choices of self defense are limited(see above video). A police departments or city councils public policy does not trump the supreme court.

My guess is the shock wave would have knocked the other two unconscious.
I have been the victim of police and criminal injustice many times in my life, don't try to convince me I am wrong. The line between right and wrong here is clearly defined, there is no gray area involved.
Northman

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03/09/2012 05:54 PM
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Old swedish saying: "The smaller the penis the bigger the gun." Those gals like REAL men!





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