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Message Subject Who or what is lucifer? (Light Bearer/bringer)
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I've heard so many stories throughout my life regarding this 'lucifer'. Some say he is good some say he is evil. Some say he was satan before he feel. Some say he never fell, some say he fell because he wouldn't give up his chair to God, whom was tired. Some say he was herme's bestfriend, who would exchange philosophy with him often. Others say he is the bringer of knowledge and wisdom, and innocence. Other say he is the problem, as lucifuge flees from him. Others say he is a brother to Paymon/Paimon, who is in charge of protecting 2 kings. Others believe he was the original human being, who's home/world got blown up. Others believe he was a philosopher, eons ago, who in an world free of harm and danger and doubt, thought another way of living up (nonconforming to his), and imagined a life different from his, innocently (since it was all his imagination) he got caught up in his own whirlwind. Some say the whirlwind was started up by Satan (According to jesus Satan is nothing without lucifer) to fulfill his master plan, some think it was started by his Father, to show him a lesson. Others say he was Jesus, other say he was a babylonian king. Throughout all this confusion, who is lucifer. There are so many stories regarding this being, share some of your stories and opinion...


Lousy Translation of "Heylel."

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 891582


I'm shocked.

In four pages full of rhetoric and intricate detail, ONLY ONE OTHER PERSON was willing to spill the actual beans.

Lucifer is actually Heylel.

Heylel = son of dawn

Heylel's father = god of dawn (Shachar)
Shacar's brother = god of dusk (Shalim)

Isaiah chose to call his mortal enemy Son of Shachar (Heylel) (later "Lucifer")

A reading of Isaiah 14;16 confirms Lucifer as being a man who is visible.

Simple logic and a read of Isaiah 14 reveals Lucifer to be none other than...

...THE WHITE RACE.
 
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