Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,885 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 663,750
Pageviews Today: 1,514,981Threads Today: 533Posts Today: 12,193
08:38 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?

 
Muslim by Nature
Offer Upgrade

User ID: 1036722
Canada
07/15/2010 01:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, Master of the Day of Judgment.

I understand that we have moved into times where secularism and Godlessness is becoming the popular position. Our civilization has developed many wondrous things which the eye could not imagine centuries ago, but too we have created instruments that have plagued the human condition and thwarted peoples intellects into heedlessness. The television is probably the most dangerous invention ever known to man. While many souls are trapped in Alice in Wonderland, religiously following sports and quasi-reality TV fictions, they are heedless of the fact that their Reckonings are drawing near.

How many people truly understand the implications of there existing an All Powerful God, Who did not create you out of idle activity, but gave you obligations. A Creator Who has sent many warners and messengers, explaining in detail how to attain prosperity and guidance, while avoiding a doomful recompense? Is not Allah's Wrath most severe?

This thought is often ignored or treated as an issue that one will get back to at a later point in time. The real danger is that this worldly life is ephemeral, death threatens us from many angles with every passing moment - we are only one breath away from expiring. You only get one test on Earth, when you die, that's it, there's no going back, you cannot set aright what you did wrong, you cannot make up for that which you missed. Do not wait until you are dead to find out that the Day of Judgment is real. Do not be distracted by the temporary pleasures of the world, because you will attain old age sooner than you anticipate it - or - death will surely catch you off guard long before that. The Most Gracious does not break His Promise. The Creator has Promised that we shall all taste death, and at an appointed time, we shall be resurrected and summoned to account. The Garden and the Fire is real - be ready.

May the Almighty keep us on the Straight Way.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 284886
United States
07/15/2010 01:17 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
I dont want to respond because it would be your duty to kill me.
Muslim by Nature  (OP)

User ID: 1036722
Canada
07/15/2010 01:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
I dont want to respond because it would be your duty to kill me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284886


You have made the right decision then my friend, no man should speak any word unless he has something good to say. Peace be upon you.
Anonymous Coward
07/15/2010 01:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Religion is ignorant and therefore you are ignorant, OP.


Have a real nice day and spare your peace bullshit.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1036702
United States
07/15/2010 01:24 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
do jews go to heaven whith allah? i know christians don't, they are blashphemers
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1029725
United States
07/15/2010 01:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Religion of War.

A list of attacks against non Muslims that Mohammed was personally a part of during his life.

The first raid: on Waddan.(p. 281)
Hamza's raid to the coast (p. 283)
Raid on Buwat (p. 285)
Raid on al-Ushayra (p. 285)
Raid on al-Kharrar (p. 286)
Raid on Safawan (p. 286)
Battle of Badr (p. 289)
Raid on B. Sulaym (p.360)
Raid called al-Sawig (p. 361)
Raid on Dhu Amarr (p. 362)
Raid on al- Furu (p. 362)
Attack on B. Qaynuqa (p. 363)
Raid on al-Qarada (p. 364)
Battle of Uhud (p. 370)
Raid of Dhatu'l Riqa (p. 445)
Last Expedition to Badr (p. 447)
Raid on Dumatu'l-Jandal (p. 449)
Battle of the Ditch (p. 456) (a defensive operation)
Attack on B. Qurayza (p. 461)
Attack on B. Lihyan (p. 485)
Attack on Dhu Qarad (p. 486)
Attack on B.al-Mustaliq (p. 490)
Expedition to Kharbar (p. 510)
Raid on Muta (p. 531)
Khalid destroys al-Uzza (p. 565)
Battle of Hunayn (p. 566)
Capture of al-Ta'if (p. 587
Raid on Tabuk (p. 602)
Destruction of al-Lat (p. 615)
Usama's expedition to Palestine (p. 652)
Ghalib's raid on B. al-Mulawwah (p. 660)
Zayd's raid on Judham (p. 662)
Zayd' raid on B.Fazara and the death of Umm Qirfa (p. 664)
Abdullah b. Rawaha's raid to kill al-Yusayr (p. 665)
Abdullah b. Unays's raid to kill Khalid b. Sufyan (p. 666)
Uyayna's raid on B, al-Anbar (p. 667)
Ghalib's raid on B.Murra (p. 667)
Amr b. al-'As's raid on Dhatu'l Salasil (p. 668)
Ibn Abu Hadrad's raid on Idam (p. 669)
His (Ibn Abu Hadrad) raid on Ghaba (p. 671)
Abdu'l Rahman's raid on Dumatu'l-Jandal (p. 672)
Abu Ubayda's raid to the coast (p. 673)
Salim b. Umayr's raid to kill Abu `Afak (p. 673)
Umayr b. Adiy's raid to kill Asma (p. 675)
Alqama's raid (p. 677)
Kurz's raid on the Bajilis (p. 677)
Ali's raid on the Yaman (p. 678)


Page numbers reference the life of Mohammed as translated from the Sira of Ibn Iss-Haq, "Biography of God's Messenger" the oldest known account of the life of Mohammed.

War for the sake of conquest and building the foundation of religion, to be spread throughout the Earth until every last man woman and child in all the lands claims Islam as the true religion or pays the Jizya tax to continue to practice theirs.

This is the truth of Islam. A religion of War.
Muslim by Nature  (OP)

User ID: 1036722
Canada
07/15/2010 01:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
do jews go to heaven whith allah? i know christians don't, they are blashphemers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1036702


Some Jews and Christians will enter Paradise, some will not. I cannot judge.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 284886
United States
07/15/2010 01:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
I dont want to respond because it would be your duty to kill me.


You have made the right decision then my friend, no man should speak any word unless he has something good to say. Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature



Oh you misunderstood. I have alot of good things to say, only we just wouldn't agree.

For the record though. I do believe in an All-Powerful Creator and I do not believe the various APC's are one in the same as many now believe.
Muslim by Nature  (OP)

User ID: 1036722
Canada
07/15/2010 01:50 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
The first raid: on Waddan.(p. 281)
Hamza's raid to the coast (p. 283)
Raid on Buwat (p. 285)
Raid on al-Ushayra (p. 285)
Raid on al-Kharrar (p. 286)
Raid on Safawan (p. 286)
Battle of Badr (p. 289)
Raid on B. Sulaym (p.360)
Raid called al-Sawig (p. 361)
Raid on Dhu Amarr (p. 362)
Raid on al- Furu (p. 362)
... ... ...


Page numbers reference the life of Mohammed as translated from the Sira of Ibn Iss-Haq, "Biography of God's Messenger" the oldest known account of the life of Mohammed.

War for the sake of conquest and building the foundation of religion, to be spread throughout the Earth until every last man woman and child in all the lands claims Islam as the true religion or pays the Jizya tax to continue to practice theirs.

This is the truth of Islam. A religion of War.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725


I have a simple question for you my friend, did you even read Ibn Hisham's Sira of the Prophet? How have you qualified yourself to dictate upon others what the truth of Islam is? Islam is not a war mongering religion, the Qur'an is explicit in the fact that peace is better than bloodshed. Having said that, Islam does mandate a martial struggle when it is appropriate, but prohibits such a thing when there is a peaceful alternative. The fact that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) participated in a martial struggle is not indicative of any falsehood on his part, rather, it is telling of the nobility of character. He did not hide behind those who carried the sword of Islam to do his "bidding" like a king who is full of pride would. The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) was a man of his word who was sent by Him to perfect manners for humankind.

When the Muslims came back to reclaim Mecca, all of the Pagan Meccans who forced the Muslims into exile were grossly outnumbered by them and anticipated genocide. The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) intended no harm upon them whatsoever. He was a beautiful human being of exceptional conduct. His objective was never bloodshed. This is the truth.
Muslim by Nature  (OP)

User ID: 1036722
Canada
07/15/2010 02:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
For the record though. I do believe in an All-Powerful Creator and I do not believe the various APC's are one in the same as many now believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284886


Hello. Yes I do understand that there are many people outside of the Abrahamic tradition who believe in an All Powerful God. In the Islamic tradition, this is known as taqwa (which means God devotion, or God consciousness). It is believed by Muslims that human beings have a natural inclination to believe in an Unseen Omnipotent Creator, unless the heart becomes hardened and denies the haqq (truth).

But I have a question, do you believe that the Creator has bestowed any obligations upon the creation? Peace.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1035522
United States
07/15/2010 02:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived.

These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before.

Reincarnation
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1035522
United States
07/15/2010 02:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived.

These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before.

Reincarnation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522

God sent me back here for some reason this time....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 970343
United States
07/15/2010 02:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.
Muslim by Nature  (OP)

User ID: 1036722
Canada
07/15/2010 02:21 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived.

These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before.

Reincarnation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522


Hello friend, well the Muslims do not believe in what you would call reincarnation. We may experience deja vu or witness that which brings familiarity (some times foreseen in a dream, which is a sign of good character), but human beings only have one Earthly life according to the Islamic tradition.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1035522
United States
07/15/2010 02:24 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived.

These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before.

Reincarnation


Hello friend, well the Muslims do not believe in what you would call reincarnation. We may experience deja vu or witness that which brings familiarity (some times foreseen in a dream, which is a sign of good character), but human beings only have one Earthly life according to the Islamic tradition.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature

I am not islamic.

I believe I have been here before tho....

This time I have something important to do...not sure what it is yet...but I have knew this as a very young child. I was saved from being dismembered by a train.
I am a Christian but I also believe I have been here a few times before.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1034753
United Kingdom
07/15/2010 02:24 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
But I have a question, do you believe that the Creator has bestowed any obligations upon the creation? Peace.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature


Yes - they are called laws of nature!

Other than that you are free to do anything - there might be consequences you don't like - but you are free to do it - if there was such a 'god' as you imagine everyone would have been born with a fucking rule book tied to their legs!

'man of perfect conduct' - you asshole! - he was a deranged warlord, bandit, murderer, schemer,pedohile, womaniser, conman and psychopath - that is why muslims are so bad - they follow this assholes example.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1035522
United States
07/15/2010 02:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970343

This is very narrow minded hogwash

God Loves all those on the earth and gives all a chance to follow Him ...and Jesus.
Muslim by Nature  (OP)

User ID: 1036722
Canada
07/15/2010 02:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970343


Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present.
moops

User ID: 906289
United States
07/15/2010 02:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
I dont want to respond because it would be your duty to kill me.


You have made the right decision then my friend, no man should speak any word unless he has something good to say. Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature

stone any helpless women lately?
MOOPS,spreading joy and mayhem :)
[link to www.onegoodkitty.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 284886
United States
07/15/2010 02:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
But I have a question, do you believe that the Creator has bestowed any obligations upon the creation? Peace.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature


That's an odd question. Please reword. Are you asking if free willed individuals have an obligation to God? Yes of course.

However, thankfully by grace we are saved through faith, not by works lest anyman should boast.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1035522
United States
07/15/2010 02:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.


Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature

If allah and God are the same thing in your religion, why dont you just call GOD ?

I have read allah was originally a pre babylonian god of nomadic pagans.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 915485
United States
07/15/2010 02:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived.

These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before.

Reincarnation


Hello friend, well the Muslims do not believe in what you would call reincarnation. We may experience deja vu or witness that which brings familiarity (some times foreseen in a dream, which is a sign of good character), but human beings only have one Earthly life according to the Islamic tradition.

I am not islamic.

I believe I have been here before tho....

This time I have something important to do...not sure what it is yet...but I have knew this as a very young child. I was saved from being dismembered by a train.
I am a Christian but I also believe I have been here a few times before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 898092
United States
07/15/2010 02:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
who gives a shit.

i dont' expect my furniture to care that i built it.

i built it for a reason.

i don't expect my cat to pray to me because i feed it.


same goes with all powerful creators crap.

who cares.

he/she/force/it did what it wanted to do..

good luck with that i say.

i'll do what i want.
Muslim by Nature  (OP)

User ID: 1036722
Canada
07/15/2010 02:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
'man of perfect conduct' - you asshole! - he was a deranged warlord, bandit, murderer, schemer,pedohile, womaniser, conman and psychopath - that is why muslims are so bad - they follow this assholes example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034753


I've studied much of the life and character of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). To do such, I went straight to the sources of Islam. I studied the Qur'an, including the tafsir (scholarly exegesis), the traditions of the Prophet (hadith) and his sira (biography). There was no conclusion I could come to other than that he was an exemplary individual of phenomenal human conduct. Indeed he is the Messenger of Allah, the seal of the Prophets (peace be upon them all). What did you study if I may ask? Sounds like we are talking about two different people here. "Google" will give you any desired conclusion you want, keep that in mind. Go straight to the sources, do not read anything out of context and be truly honest with yourself. Peace be upon you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1035522
United States
07/15/2010 02:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.


Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present.

If allah and God are the same thing in your religion, why dont you just call GOD ?

I have read allah was originally a pre babylonian god of nomadic pagans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 970343
United States
07/15/2010 02:36 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.

This is very narrow minded hogwash

God Loves all those on the earth and gives all a chance to follow Him ...and Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522



You must be muslim because you are calling YHVH's words hogwash. HE said to Abraham:

...for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. -Genesis 21.12
moops

User ID: 906289
United States
07/15/2010 02:37 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.


Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature

John 14:6 (King James Version)

6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
MOOPS,spreading joy and mayhem :)
[link to www.onegoodkitty.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 915485
United States
07/15/2010 02:38 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived.

These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before.

Reincarnation


Hello friend, well the Muslims do not believe in what you would call reincarnation. We may experience deja vu or witness that which brings familiarity (some times foreseen in a dream, which is a sign of good character), but human beings only have one Earthly life according to the Islamic tradition.

I am not islamic.

I believe I have been here before tho....

This time I have something important to do...not sure what it is yet...but I have knew this as a very young child. I was saved from being dismembered by a train.
I am a Christian but I also believe I have been here a few times before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522


Reincarnaton is not Biblical. It is a very cool concept to ponder but it boils down to a New Age Hindu Christian mix of absurdity. That's the enemy's plan, and its working well. Don't be fooled by the enemy, his plan is to kill and destroy by tricking people into believeing things outside of the very simple message of Christ.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 970343
United States
07/15/2010 02:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.


Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature


Your rock is not my Rock.

I couldn't care less what Allah says.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1035522
United States
07/15/2010 02:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling.


Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present.

If allah and God are the same thing in your religion, why dont you just call GOD ?

I have read allah was originally a pre babylonian god of nomadic pagans.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522

AND why do women in your culture have to live life so miserably?

Bound up in burquas like property.

I have read that islamists believe that women would not go to heaven because they are not men.
This is reducing an entire part of humanity to nothing.

Women are human beings and need to be treated with respect. islam is disgusting the ways it treats women.
Shame.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1034753
United Kingdom
07/15/2010 02:46 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator?
'man of perfect conduct' - you asshole! - he was a deranged warlord, bandit, murderer, schemer,pedohile, womaniser, conman and psychopath - that is why muslims are so bad - they follow this assholes example.


I've studied much of the life and character of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). To do such, I went straight to the sources of Islam. I studied the Qur'an, including the tafsir (scholarly exegesis), the traditions of the Prophet (hadith) and his sira (biography). There was no conclusion I could come to other than that he was an exemplary individual of phenomenal human conduct. Indeed he is the Messenger of Allah, the seal of the Prophets (peace be upon them all). What did you study if I may ask? Sounds like we are talking about two different people here. "Google" will give you any desired conclusion you want, keep that in mind. Go straight to the sources, do not read anything out of context and be truly honest with yourself. Peace be upon you.
 Quoting: Muslim by Nature



Well I used common sense - and concluded that if someone turns to banditry, murder, treachery, slavery, pedophilia and says ........but um this demon, I mean angel appeared and told me it was OK and God wants me to do all this stuff. Then it means that they were a lying deluded pschopath!

unfortunately for you he also added - oh yeah and er if anyone questions any of this - er you can kill them!





GLP