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Muslim by Nature (OP) User ID: 1036722 Canada 07/15/2010 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? I dont want to respond because it would be your duty to kill me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284886You have made the right decision then my friend, no man should speak any word unless he has something good to say. Peace be upon you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1029725 United States 07/15/2010 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? A list of attacks against non Muslims that Mohammed was personally a part of during his life. The first raid: on Waddan.(p. 281) Hamza's raid to the coast (p. 283) Raid on Buwat (p. 285) Raid on al-Ushayra (p. 285) Raid on al-Kharrar (p. 286) Raid on Safawan (p. 286) Battle of Badr (p. 289) Raid on B. Sulaym (p.360) Raid called al-Sawig (p. 361) Raid on Dhu Amarr (p. 362) Raid on al- Furu (p. 362) Attack on B. Qaynuqa (p. 363) Raid on al-Qarada (p. 364) Battle of Uhud (p. 370) Raid of Dhatu'l Riqa (p. 445) Last Expedition to Badr (p. 447) Raid on Dumatu'l-Jandal (p. 449) Battle of the Ditch (p. 456) (a defensive operation) Attack on B. Qurayza (p. 461) Attack on B. Lihyan (p. 485) Attack on Dhu Qarad (p. 486) Attack on B.al-Mustaliq (p. 490) Expedition to Kharbar (p. 510) Raid on Muta (p. 531) Khalid destroys al-Uzza (p. 565) Battle of Hunayn (p. 566) Capture of al-Ta'if (p. 587 Raid on Tabuk (p. 602) Destruction of al-Lat (p. 615) Usama's expedition to Palestine (p. 652) Ghalib's raid on B. al-Mulawwah (p. 660) Zayd's raid on Judham (p. 662) Zayd' raid on B.Fazara and the death of Umm Qirfa (p. 664) Abdullah b. Rawaha's raid to kill al-Yusayr (p. 665) Abdullah b. Unays's raid to kill Khalid b. Sufyan (p. 666) Uyayna's raid on B, al-Anbar (p. 667) Ghalib's raid on B.Murra (p. 667) Amr b. al-'As's raid on Dhatu'l Salasil (p. 668) Ibn Abu Hadrad's raid on Idam (p. 669) His (Ibn Abu Hadrad) raid on Ghaba (p. 671) Abdu'l Rahman's raid on Dumatu'l-Jandal (p. 672) Abu Ubayda's raid to the coast (p. 673) Salim b. Umayr's raid to kill Abu `Afak (p. 673) Umayr b. Adiy's raid to kill Asma (p. 675) Alqama's raid (p. 677) Kurz's raid on the Bajilis (p. 677) Ali's raid on the Yaman (p. 678) Page numbers reference the life of Mohammed as translated from the Sira of Ibn Iss-Haq, "Biography of God's Messenger" the oldest known account of the life of Mohammed. War for the sake of conquest and building the foundation of religion, to be spread throughout the Earth until every last man woman and child in all the lands claims Islam as the true religion or pays the Jizya tax to continue to practice theirs. This is the truth of Islam. A religion of War. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 284886 United States 07/15/2010 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? I dont want to respond because it would be your duty to kill me. Quoting: Muslim by NatureYou have made the right decision then my friend, no man should speak any word unless he has something good to say. Peace be upon you. Oh you misunderstood. I have alot of good things to say, only we just wouldn't agree. For the record though. I do believe in an All-Powerful Creator and I do not believe the various APC's are one in the same as many now believe. |
Muslim by Nature (OP) User ID: 1036722 Canada 07/15/2010 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? The first raid: on Waddan.(p. 281) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725Hamza's raid to the coast (p. 283) Raid on Buwat (p. 285) Raid on al-Ushayra (p. 285) Raid on al-Kharrar (p. 286) Raid on Safawan (p. 286) Battle of Badr (p. 289) Raid on B. Sulaym (p.360) Raid called al-Sawig (p. 361) Raid on Dhu Amarr (p. 362) Raid on al- Furu (p. 362) ... ... ... Page numbers reference the life of Mohammed as translated from the Sira of Ibn Iss-Haq, "Biography of God's Messenger" the oldest known account of the life of Mohammed. War for the sake of conquest and building the foundation of religion, to be spread throughout the Earth until every last man woman and child in all the lands claims Islam as the true religion or pays the Jizya tax to continue to practice theirs. This is the truth of Islam. A religion of War. I have a simple question for you my friend, did you even read Ibn Hisham's Sira of the Prophet? How have you qualified yourself to dictate upon others what the truth of Islam is? Islam is not a war mongering religion, the Qur'an is explicit in the fact that peace is better than bloodshed. Having said that, Islam does mandate a martial struggle when it is appropriate, but prohibits such a thing when there is a peaceful alternative. The fact that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) participated in a martial struggle is not indicative of any falsehood on his part, rather, it is telling of the nobility of character. He did not hide behind those who carried the sword of Islam to do his "bidding" like a king who is full of pride would. The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) was a man of his word who was sent by Him to perfect manners for humankind. When the Muslims came back to reclaim Mecca, all of the Pagan Meccans who forced the Muslims into exile were grossly outnumbered by them and anticipated genocide. The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) intended no harm upon them whatsoever. He was a beautiful human being of exceptional conduct. His objective was never bloodshed. This is the truth. |
Muslim by Nature (OP) User ID: 1036722 Canada 07/15/2010 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? For the record though. I do believe in an All-Powerful Creator and I do not believe the various APC's are one in the same as many now believe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284886Hello. Yes I do understand that there are many people outside of the Abrahamic tradition who believe in an All Powerful God. In the Islamic tradition, this is known as taqwa (which means God devotion, or God consciousness). It is believed by Muslims that human beings have a natural inclination to believe in an Unseen Omnipotent Creator, unless the heart becomes hardened and denies the haqq (truth). But I have a question, do you believe that the Creator has bestowed any obligations upon the creation? Peace. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1035522 United States 07/15/2010 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before. Reincarnation God sent me back here for some reason this time.... |
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Muslim by Nature (OP) User ID: 1036722 Canada 07/15/2010 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before. Reincarnation Hello friend, well the Muslims do not believe in what you would call reincarnation. We may experience deja vu or witness that which brings familiarity (some times foreseen in a dream, which is a sign of good character), but human beings only have one Earthly life according to the Islamic tradition. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1035522 United States 07/15/2010 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived. Quoting: Muslim by NatureThese memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before. Reincarnation Hello friend, well the Muslims do not believe in what you would call reincarnation. We may experience deja vu or witness that which brings familiarity (some times foreseen in a dream, which is a sign of good character), but human beings only have one Earthly life according to the Islamic tradition. I am not islamic. I believe I have been here before tho.... This time I have something important to do...not sure what it is yet...but I have knew this as a very young child. I was saved from being dismembered by a train. I am a Christian but I also believe I have been here a few times before. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034753 United Kingdom 07/15/2010 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? But I have a question, do you believe that the Creator has bestowed any obligations upon the creation? Peace. Quoting: Muslim by NatureYes - they are called laws of nature! Other than that you are free to do anything - there might be consequences you don't like - but you are free to do it - if there was such a 'god' as you imagine everyone would have been born with a fucking rule book tied to their legs! 'man of perfect conduct' - you asshole! - he was a deranged warlord, bandit, murderer, schemer,pedohile, womaniser, conman and psychopath - that is why muslims are so bad - they follow this assholes example. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1035522 United States 07/15/2010 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970343This is very narrow minded hogwash God Loves all those on the earth and gives all a chance to follow Him ...and Jesus. |
Muslim by Nature (OP) User ID: 1036722 Canada 07/15/2010 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970343Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present. |
moops User ID: 906289 United States 07/15/2010 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? I dont want to respond because it would be your duty to kill me. Quoting: Muslim by NatureYou have made the right decision then my friend, no man should speak any word unless he has something good to say. Peace be upon you. stone any helpless women lately? MOOPS,spreading joy and mayhem :) [link to www.onegoodkitty.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 284886 United States 07/15/2010 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? But I have a question, do you believe that the Creator has bestowed any obligations upon the creation? Peace. Quoting: Muslim by NatureThat's an odd question. Please reword. Are you asking if free willed individuals have an obligation to God? Yes of course. However, thankfully by grace we are saved through faith, not by works lest anyman should boast. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1035522 United States 07/15/2010 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling. Quoting: Muslim by NatureAllah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present. If allah and God are the same thing in your religion, why dont you just call GOD ? I have read allah was originally a pre babylonian god of nomadic pagans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 915485 United States 07/15/2010 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before. Reincarnation Hello friend, well the Muslims do not believe in what you would call reincarnation. We may experience deja vu or witness that which brings familiarity (some times foreseen in a dream, which is a sign of good character), but human beings only have one Earthly life according to the Islamic tradition. I am not islamic. I believe I have been here before tho.... This time I have something important to do...not sure what it is yet...but I have knew this as a very young child. I was saved from being dismembered by a train. I am a Christian but I also believe I have been here a few times before. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 898092 United States 07/15/2010 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? who gives a shit. i dont' expect my furniture to care that i built it. i built it for a reason. i don't expect my cat to pray to me because i feed it. same goes with all powerful creators crap. who cares. he/she/force/it did what it wanted to do.. good luck with that i say. i'll do what i want. |
Muslim by Nature (OP) User ID: 1036722 Canada 07/15/2010 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? 'man of perfect conduct' - you asshole! - he was a deranged warlord, bandit, murderer, schemer,pedohile, womaniser, conman and psychopath - that is why muslims are so bad - they follow this assholes example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034753I've studied much of the life and character of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). To do such, I went straight to the sources of Islam. I studied the Qur'an, including the tafsir (scholarly exegesis), the traditions of the Prophet (hadith) and his sira (biography). There was no conclusion I could come to other than that he was an exemplary individual of phenomenal human conduct. Indeed he is the Messenger of Allah, the seal of the Prophets (peace be upon them all). What did you study if I may ask? Sounds like we are talking about two different people here. "Google" will give you any desired conclusion you want, keep that in mind. Go straight to the sources, do not read anything out of context and be truly honest with yourself. Peace be upon you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1035522 United States 07/15/2010 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present. If allah and God are the same thing in your religion, why dont you just call GOD ? I have read allah was originally a pre babylonian god of nomadic pagans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 970343 United States 07/15/2010 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522This is very narrow minded hogwash God Loves all those on the earth and gives all a chance to follow Him ...and Jesus. You must be muslim because you are calling YHVH's words hogwash. HE said to Abraham: ...for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. -Genesis 21.12 |
moops User ID: 906289 United States 07/15/2010 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling. Quoting: Muslim by NatureAllah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present. John 14:6 (King James Version) 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. MOOPS,spreading joy and mayhem :) [link to www.onegoodkitty.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 915485 United States 07/15/2010 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? What if I have a memory for past lives I have lived. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522These memories are quick and small pieces, but I think I have been here several times before. Reincarnation Hello friend, well the Muslims do not believe in what you would call reincarnation. We may experience deja vu or witness that which brings familiarity (some times foreseen in a dream, which is a sign of good character), but human beings only have one Earthly life according to the Islamic tradition. I am not islamic. I believe I have been here before tho.... This time I have something important to do...not sure what it is yet...but I have knew this as a very young child. I was saved from being dismembered by a train. I am a Christian but I also believe I have been here a few times before. Reincarnaton is not Biblical. It is a very cool concept to ponder but it boils down to a New Age Hindu Christian mix of absurdity. That's the enemy's plan, and its working well. Don't be fooled by the enemy, his plan is to kill and destroy by tricking people into believeing things outside of the very simple message of Christ. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 970343 United States 07/15/2010 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling. Quoting: Muslim by NatureAllah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present. Your rock is not my Rock. I couldn't care less what Allah says. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1035522 United States 07/15/2010 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? Ishmaelites are not the chosen seed for the calling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035522Allah does not look at lineage on the Day of Judgment. Allah looks at good character, good deeds, and most importantly, him who professes true monotheism. All else is irrelevant if the latter is not present. If allah and God are the same thing in your religion, why dont you just call GOD ? I have read allah was originally a pre babylonian god of nomadic pagans. AND why do women in your culture have to live life so miserably? Bound up in burquas like property. I have read that islamists believe that women would not go to heaven because they are not men. This is reducing an entire part of humanity to nothing. Women are human beings and need to be treated with respect. islam is disgusting the ways it treats women. Shame. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034753 United Kingdom 07/15/2010 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Does anybody here actually understand the implications of there existing an All-Powerful Creator? 'man of perfect conduct' - you asshole! - he was a deranged warlord, bandit, murderer, schemer,pedohile, womaniser, conman and psychopath - that is why muslims are so bad - they follow this assholes example. Quoting: Muslim by NatureI've studied much of the life and character of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). To do such, I went straight to the sources of Islam. I studied the Qur'an, including the tafsir (scholarly exegesis), the traditions of the Prophet (hadith) and his sira (biography). There was no conclusion I could come to other than that he was an exemplary individual of phenomenal human conduct. Indeed he is the Messenger of Allah, the seal of the Prophets (peace be upon them all). What did you study if I may ask? Sounds like we are talking about two different people here. "Google" will give you any desired conclusion you want, keep that in mind. Go straight to the sources, do not read anything out of context and be truly honest with yourself. Peace be upon you. Well I used common sense - and concluded that if someone turns to banditry, murder, treachery, slavery, pedophilia and says ........but um this demon, I mean angel appeared and told me it was OK and God wants me to do all this stuff. Then it means that they were a lying deluded pschopath! unfortunately for you he also added - oh yeah and er if anyone questions any of this - er you can kill them! |