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When the 20 agents arrived bearing a search warrant at her Ventura County farmhouse door at 7 a.m. on a Wednesday a couple weeks back, Sharon Palmer didn't know what to say. This was the third time she was being raided in 18 months, and she had thought she was on her way to resolving the problem over labeling of her goat cheese that prompted the other two raids. (In addition to producing goat's milk, she raises cattle, pigs, and chickens, and makes the meat available via a CSA.)

But her 12-year-old daughter, Jasmine, wasn't the least bit tongue-tied. "She started back-talking to them," recalls Palmer. "She said, 'If you take my computer again, I can't do my homework.' This would be the third computer we will have lost. I still haven't gotten the computers back that they took in the previous two raids."

As part of a five-hour-plus search of her barn and home, the agents -- from the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office, Los Angeles County Sheriff, Ventura County Sheriff, and the California Department of Food and Agriculture -- took the replacement computer, along with milk she feeds her chickens and pigs.

While no one will say officially what the purpose of this latest raid was, aside from being part of an investigation in progress, what is very clear is that government raids of producers, distributors, and even consumers of nutritionally dense foods appear to be happening ever more frequently. Sometimes they are meant to counter raw dairy production, other times to challenge private food organizations over whether they should be licensed as food retailers.

The same day Sharon Palmer's farm was raided, there was a raid on Rawesome Foods, a Venice, Calif., private food club run by nutritionist and raw-food advocate Aajonus Vonderplanitz. For a membership fee of $25, consumers can purchase unpasteurized dairy products, eggs that are not only organic but unwashed, and a wide assortment of fermented vegetables and other products.

The main difference in the two raids seems to be that Palmer's raiding party was actually much smaller, about half the size of the Venice contingent: Vonderplanitz was also visited by the FBI and the FDA.

In the Rawesome raid, agents made off with several thousand dollars worth of raw honey and raw dairy products. They also shut Rawesome for failure to have a public health permit, though the size and scope of the raid suggests the government officials might have more in mind. Regardless, within hours the outlet reopened in defiance of the shutdown order.

Earlier in June, agents of the Minnesota Department of Agriculture, escorted by police and also bearing search warrants, raided and shut down Traditional Foods Warehouse, a popular food club in Minneapolis specializing in locally-produced foods. They also raided two farms suspected of illegally selling raw milk. And in a national first among such raids, agents searched a private home and made off with computers; the family's offense appears to have been that it allowed one of the raw dairy farmers to park in its driveway to distribute raw milk to area residents who had ordered it.

The Minnesota Department of Agriculture has declined comment on such raids, saying they are part of an ongoing investigation into raw milk distribution in the state in lieu of eight illnesses in May linked to raw milk.

Meanwhile, the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade, and Consumer Protection has launched three raids over the last three months on the dairy farm and farm store of Vernon Hershberger, near Madison. The day after DATCP agents placed seals on his fridges storing raw dairy products in July, Hershberger cut the seals, and announced he was going to challenge the agency's contention he needs a dairy and retail license to sell his products. Obtaining such licenses would be problematic, though, since Wisconsin prohibits sale of raw milk, except "incidental" sales, and defining "incidental" has been a bone of contention for many years. In any event, Hershberger contends he sells only to consumers who contract privately for his food.

What's behind all these raids? They seem to stem from increasing concern at both the state and federal level about the spread of private food groups that have sprung up around the country in recent years -- food clubs and buying groups to provide specialized local products that are generally unavailable in groceries, like grass-fed meats, pastured eggs, fermented foods, and, in some cases, raw dairy products. Because they are private and limited to consumers who sign up for membership, these groups generally avoid obtaining retail and public health licenses required of retailers that sell to the general public.

In late 2008 and early 2009, the representatives of state agriculture agencies in Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, and Illinois met via phone conferences with representatives of the FDA to map a plan for targeting raw-milk buying clubs in the Midwest. The meetings came to light after Max Kane, the owner of a Wisconsin buying club who was subpoenaed by Wisconsin authorities for the names of his customers and suppliers, obtained email accounts of the sessions via a Freedom of Information request to Wisconsin's Agriculture, Trade, and Consumer Protection department. (Kane has since been prosecuted by Wisconsin authorities for contempt of court for failing to give up the names; his case is under appeal after he was found guilty last December.)

Now, the Midwest program seems to have gone national, and the recent spate of raids suggests a quickening pace and broadened scope. While most raids before the Midwest government meetings had been related to raw-milk distribution, some, like a December 2008 armed raid of Manna Storehouse, an Ohio food club near Cleveland, have been about licensing issues. In that raid, armed law enforcement officers held a mother and eight young children being home-schooled at gunpoint for several hours while they searched the home and food storage areas. A legal challenge to the raid by the family is still tied up in court.

The current uptick has Pete Kennedy of the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund concerned, not only about the spreading of the raids, but about the seemingly easy willingness of judges to hand out search warrants. While the U.S. Constitution's fourth amendment suggests judges should exercise tight controls over search warrants ("no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause..."), Kennedy observes, "I haven't seen an agency turned down yet" over the last four years in requests for search warrants connected with raw milk and other food production and distribution.

Given that the targets of search warrants don't get a say in court as to whether they should be issued, legal experts and those who have been raided say the most that food producers can do is take steps to prepare themselves to weather the raids as best they can.

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Great post OP!
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Great post OP!
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Thank you good sir/ma'am.

The government controls EVERYTHING!!!

I bet you this shit doesn't make it on the 6o'clock news!
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Maggots. Cops are as much the enemy as the rest of them. There is no murder when at war.
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Maggots. Cops are as much the enemy as the rest of them. There is no murder when at war.
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Cops are the real enemy, because we deal with cops.
You don't have Obama knocking on your door.

It's easy to order to kill.
It's another thing to pull the trigger.

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This is sick!!!
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Maggots. Cops are as much the enemy as the rest of them. There is no murder when at war.

Cops are the real enemy, because we deal with cops.
You don't have Obama knocking on your door.

It's easy to order to kill.
It's another thing to pull the trigger.
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Absolutely. Though you'll always have the herd bleating that they're just doing their job even whilst they are ransacking their homes and giving them cavity searches.
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Maggots. Cops are as much the enemy as the rest of them. There is no murder when at war.

Cops are the real enemy, because we deal with cops.
You don't have Obama knocking on your door.

It's easy to order to kill.
It's another thing to pull the trigger.


Absolutely. Though you'll always have the herd bleating that they're just doing their job even whilst they are ransacking their homes and giving them cavity searches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1037893

They're just growing food!

Land of the free, yea! Free vaccines, maybe!

This is fucked up people!

They're stealing organic, healthy food!
Treating people like criminals!

No more rights exist...
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I have to disagree with 'cops are the enemy'. Some of them are shits like in any demographic, but most of them aren't.

Without them we'd have total anarchy because people simply won't behave.

Wouldn't need police if people would stop impinging upon each other. Until people do stop that we will have cops and Thank God for that.
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fuckin pigs. supporting this fraud they call a "system of justice"... makes me sick to my mutherfucking stomach to see this shit..... when the FUCK are people going to get pissed off enough to unite and do something??????? when the fuck will humans grow a United Backbone????? jesus fuckin christ..
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I have to disagree with 'cops are the enemy'. Some of them are shits like in any demographic, but most of them aren't.

Without them we'd have total anarchy because people simply won't behave.

Wouldn't need police if people would stop impinging upon each other. Until people do stop that we will have cops and Thank God for that.
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fuck that. people rely on others to help them- we NEED anarchy and COMPLETE collapse of the current system- for a NEW system to take place..... they support negativity and fraud laws set up by elite bankers... we need to unite the public- to protect the public- and support the public!!!!!!! we dont need alphabet gangs to protect us - PROTECT YOURSELVES! supply yourselves! stop being so god damn dependent.... does ANYONE practice independence anymore?
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Blame the local Sheriff for allowing it to happen!
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I have to disagree with 'cops are the enemy'. Some of them are shits like in any demographic, but most of them aren't.

Without them we'd have total anarchy because people simply won't behave.

Wouldn't need police if people would stop impinging upon each other. Until people do stop that we will have cops and Thank God for that.

fuck that. people rely on others to help them- we NEED anarchy and COMPLETE collapse of the current system- for a NEW system to take place..... they support negativity and fraud laws set up by elite bankers... we need to unite the public- to protect the public- and support the public!!!!!!! we dont need alphabet gangs to protect us - PROTECT YOURSELVES! supply yourselves! stop being so god damn dependent.... does ANYONE practice independence anymore?
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+1


Ask yourself, why would a cop shoot a innocent dog?
Why would a cop steal crops and a 12 year olds computer?
Because they're ordered to do so.
You know, you can say 'No'!

If someone at work ordered me to do something I didn't believe in, I would say 'no'.

They're brainwashed people!
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I have to disagree with 'cops are the enemy'. Some of them are shits like in any demographic, but most of them aren't.

Without them we'd have total anarchy because people simply won't behave.

Wouldn't need police if people would stop impinging upon each other. Until people do stop that we will have cops and Thank God for that.

fuck that. people rely on others to help them- we NEED anarchy and COMPLETE collapse of the current system- for a NEW system to take place..... they support negativity and fraud laws set up by elite bankers... we need to unite the public- to protect the public- and support the public!!!!!!! we dont need alphabet gangs to protect us - PROTECT YOURSELVES! supply yourselves! stop being so god damn dependent.... does ANYONE practice independence anymore?

+1


Ask yourself, why would a cop shoot a innocent dog?
Why would a cop steal crops and a 12 year olds computer?
Because they're ordered to do so.
You know, you can say 'No'!

If someone at work ordered me to do something I didn't believe in, I would say 'no'.

They're brainwashed people!
 Quoting: guy369

Exactly! just like armies of the world-- the elite tell them to go kill innocents and invade a country- they blindly follow and cock- n load the guns.... FOOLS... many have no backbone anymore and dont stand up for ANYTHING they believe in.... i welcome the apocalypse..
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This is part of the codex almentarious where they ban and/or regulate organic foods while promoting GMO foods and the pesticides they use.

Obama signed an executive order in June to back door this UN population reduction program.

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Exactly! just like armies of the world-- the elite tell them to go kill innocents and invade a country- they blindly follow and cock- n load the guns.... FOOLS... many have no backbone anymore and dont stand up for ANYTHING they believe in.... i welcome the apocalypse..
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Me too!
We need it.

Shit can't get better with this current system.
Stealing peoples food!!!???
What's next? They're going to steal your air!

This is a disgrace to the 'United States of America'
You're country has absolutely no freedoms!

...Barely any do anymore.
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The future solution will be barter and trade... they cant do SHIT to the people if they arent SELLING the goods.


ugh, this makes me so MOTIVATED... Im just going to send them some LOVE and keep on quietly non complying :)
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These government criminals will not post the level of gases present along the coast. They will not post the level of contamination in the water. They will not test seafood for contaminates.

And yet these motherfuckers are harassing the Amish and others that are trying to eat the way nature intended us to eat? Doesn't it make you feel all tingly inside knowing that fedgov is protecting you from these monstrously evil people??
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we need to get to the polls and elect RESPONSIBLE people to get rid of this type of abuse of power

WE HAVE THE POWER
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The future solution will be barter and trade... they cant do SHIT to the people if they arent SELLING the goods.


ugh, this makes me so MOTIVATED... Im just going to send them some LOVE and keep on quietly non complying :)
 Quoting: the Quetzal

That's about all that's left to do my friend.
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we need to get to the polls and elect RESPONSIBLE people to get rid of this type of abuse of power

WE HAVE THE POWER
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The polls are rigged.
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These government criminals will not post the level of gases present along the coast. They will not post the level of contamination in the water. They will not test seafood for contaminates.

And yet these motherfuckers are harassing the Amish and others that are trying to eat the way nature intended us to eat? Doesn't it make you feel all tingly inside knowing that fedgov is protecting you from these monstrously evil people??
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clappa
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The intelligent way to handle this is through the court system. Y'all need to learn to keep a cool head to truly effect change.

Yes the laws re raw foods are difficult. Others deal with them just fine, all the time. The amounts of red tape and paperwork are over the top. BUT, that will change eventually when folks comply with the regulations in place.

People ARE working to enact change.

Screaming that cops are the bad guys doesn't help anything.

Being militant doesn't help anything but it could make you a target.

Being logical and working within the parameters in place in our legal system is what effective people do, and successfully so.

Support them. Keep buying their stuff! And learn to raise awareness without blowing your top so people will listen to you.
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I have to disagree with 'cops are the enemy'. Some of them are shits like in any demographic, but most of them aren't.

Without them we'd have total anarchy because people simply won't behave.

Wouldn't need police if people would stop impinging upon each other. Until people do stop that we will have cops and Thank God for that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034721


Idiot alert. Without cops we could exterminate all the scumbags and bury them in the hills. There would be less crime.
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Exactly! just like armies of the world-- the elite tell them to go kill innocents and invade a country- they blindly follow and cock- n load the guns.... FOOLS... many have no backbone anymore and dont stand up for ANYTHING they believe in.... i welcome the apocalypse..


Me too!
We need it.

Shit can't get better with this current system.
Stealing peoples food!!!???
What's next? They're going to steal your air!

This is a disgrace to the 'United States of America'
You're country has absolutely no freedoms!

...Barely any do anymore.
 Quoting: guy369


You're mistaken, I could hop in my car right now and go buy all that good stuff from folks who aren't being "harassed" because they comply with the difficult regulations in place.

They're working to enact change in these areas. And showing that they comply with standards is what keeps working.
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Food Reform on the way?
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The intelligent way to handle this is through the court system. Y'all need to learn to keep a cool head to truly effect change.

Yes the laws re raw foods are difficult. Others deal with them just fine, all the time. The amounts of red tape and paperwork are over the top. BUT, that will change eventually when folks comply with the regulations in place.

People ARE working to enact change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034721



We have the best justice money can buy. No mass money to buy politicians? Forget anything even remotely approaching justice.




Screaming that cops are the bad guys doesn't help anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034721




The police and courts are where is regime's political decrees get smashed into our faces. The police and courts going along with the acts of this criminal government are "bad guys". The police and courts that are victimizing the common man are "bad guys".
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Food Reform on the way?
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Looks that way...
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I have to disagree with 'cops are the enemy'. Some of them are shits like in any demographic, but most of them aren't.

Without them we'd have total anarchy because people simply won't behave.

Wouldn't need police if people would stop impinging upon each other. Until people do stop that we will have cops and Thank God for that.

fuck that. people rely on others to help them- we NEED anarchy and COMPLETE collapse of the current system- for a NEW system to take place..... they support negativity and fraud laws set up by elite bankers... we need to unite the public- to protect the public- and support the public!!!!!!! we dont need alphabet gangs to protect us - PROTECT YOURSELVES! supply yourselves! stop being so god damn dependent.... does ANYONE practice independence anymore?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985532

+1

The government hates food independence. They are treating these farmers exactly the same as terrorism suspects, taking their computers etc.

Hope and change! Whatever one thought of GWB, and I didn't think much, I didn't hear that these raids were going on. They weren't treating food providers the same as terrorists.
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Well, They deprive people's right of work. To bad for those who wants to feed themselves by their own hands. Here too.
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Well, They deprive people's right of work. To bad for those who wants to feed themselves by their own hands. Here too.
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No more independence....

...Good luck living off the grid.
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