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Corporations Lobby For Private Debtors Prisons

 
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In our modern era of debt servitude, a PR Push has been designed to reintroduce a serious discussion of debtors' prisons as a sound solution. What goes beyond alarming is that the full-fledged return of debtors’ prisons might be seen as both appropriately terrifying, as well as a profitable investment opportunity and politically sound decision to be made by state governments struggling with their own looming bankruptcies, and a Federal government struggling politically with the concept of a jobless recovery that is not materializing.

A de facto debtors' prison has already been largely accepted in the case of "deadbeat" parents when a failure to pay child support puts them in civil contempt of court. It is this civil contempt charge that is now beginning to take on an expanded definition to include those who owe for much smaller infractions. When a court order to pay a debt is issued and ignored, it then qualifies as a civil contempt of court. At that point, the judge becomes a literal dictator with the ability to imprison a person indefinitely for the violation. The Constitution explicitly prohibits incarceration for failure to pay debts, but it is the violation of a court order that gives judges free rein to impose draconian punishments. In this way, an end-run around the Constitution can become frighteningly commonplace.(2)

America already has a record-high ratio of people in prison, with no signs of the trend reversing as private corporations like Wackenhut Corporation, referred to as a "Free Market in Human Misery," have long been enlisted to turn government directives into shareholder profit. One might even deign to call it blatant fascism in its purest form, as government legislation leads offenders directly into private company coffers. The prison-industrial complex has already capitalized on government actions like The War on Drugs. A prime example is how The California Correctional Peace Officers Association helped fuel the prison-building boom as a cozy relationship was established on Capitol Hill through influence peddling.(3)

Profiting from the suffering of the poor while bailouts and bonuses await the over-leveraged banksters, car companies, and state governments, sets up a prison-industrial complex with a class warfare component that is the domestic mirror of the military-industrial complex sent abroad. This domestic prison system seems to be the only industry left to build upon, and it is here that things become truly frightening. For the federally-owned prison system complex, Federal Prison Industries (UNICOR), more incarceration means a growing supply of cheap labor and a skewing of unemployment numbers, as these inmates are often doing jobs they couldn't even find if they were job hunting on the outside. But it is the private prison system, with its web fully woven throughout the U.S. government, that stands to profit the most from the return of debtors' admission.(4)

The largest private prison conglomerate in the U.S. is Corrections Corporation of America (CCA), which controls more than 47% of all private prison and jail beds nationwide and is able to produce a 13-15% return annually on new real estate investments. Wackenhut (now subsumed into G4S, the largest security company in the world) was of course started by an FBI agent, George Wackenhut, who is famous for developing millions of dossiers on America's "potential subversives" in the sixties, and was exposed as being an integral player within the shadow CIA.(5)

These major security conglomerates are at the top of a growing pyramid of for-profit, international detention center operators that has Wall Street giants like Goldman Sachs simply fawning over the solid, long-term investment potential. Similar to war, when there is a profit to be made off of incarceration, only more incarceration can be expected to follow.

Read the whole story here: [link to www.activistpost.com]
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Pfffft..Constitution....like anybody on the payroll in DC has read that silly old thing...
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07/26/2010 11:42 PM
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Pfffft..Constitution....like anybody on the payroll in DC has read that silly old thing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729515

Read it? They probably don't even know what it is.
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07/26/2010 11:45 PM
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Pfffft..Constitution....like anybody on the payroll in DC has read that silly old thing...

Read it? They probably don't even know what it is.
 Quoting: WeAreWatchingYou

Sure they do...it's that old dumb thing written by white racist biggots that wasn't meant for our "sophisticated" times.
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What does a debtor prison really do? I mean it takes food, maintenance, staff it is really just a black hole. Now a work camp on the other hand at least offers some profitability. But, the global corporations already have slave labor in China and India, why would they readjust their entire structure for debtors prisons. This is most likely a fear tactic to dissuade people from charging up their credit cards before they declare bankruptcy.
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What does a debtor prison really do? I mean it takes food, maintenance, staff it is really just a black hole. Now a work camp on the other hand at least offers some profitability. But, the global corporations already have slave labor in China and India, why would they readjust their entire structure for debtors prisons. This is most likely a fear tactic to dissuade people from charging up their credit cards before they declare bankruptcy.
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Who do you think will pay for that food, maintenance and staff? The taxpayers will. There are quite a few articles on GLP where people are already being imprisoned for not paying debt so i doubt its a fear tactic. It just another way to rape the American people of what they have left.
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Pfffft..Constitution....like anybody on the payroll in DC has read that silly old thing...

Read it? They probably don't even know what it is.

Sure they do...it's that old dumb thing written by white racist biggots that wasn't meant for our "sophisticated" times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729515


you should be glad that "old dumb thing" is still around.
cause you wouldnt be typing right here, right now.
im sure if the powers that be could make it dissapear, they would.
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07/27/2010 12:03 AM
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One day, we will be forced to fight for our freedoms.

That day is not today, but soon you will see the first volley... And it will be tangible.
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What does a debtor prison really do? I mean it takes food, maintenance, staff it is really just a black hole. Now a work camp on the other hand at least offers some profitability. But, the global corporations already have slave labor in China and India, why would they readjust their entire structure for debtors prisons. This is most likely a fear tactic to dissuade people from charging up their credit cards before they declare bankruptcy.


Who do you think will pay for that food, maintenance and staff? The taxpayers will. There are quite a few articles on GLP where people are already being imprisoned for not paying debt so i doubt its a fear tactic. It just another way to rape the American people of what they have left.
 Quoting: WeAreWatchingYou

+ it is for people unable to pay "debt", i.e. people who used credit because they could get credit and now can no longer make payments. Those living off the government teat are safe.
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Pfffft..Constitution....like anybody on the payroll in DC has read that silly old thing...

Read it? They probably don't even know what it is.

Sure they do...it's that old dumb thing written by white racist biggots that wasn't meant for our "sophisticated" times.


you should be glad that "old dumb thing" is still around.
cause you wouldnt be typing right here, right now.
im sure if the powers that be could make it dissapear, they would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1025555

It's called sarcasm..
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07/27/2010 12:17 AM
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I wonder if they will harvest your bodyparts in there?
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What does a debtor prison really do? I mean it takes food, maintenance, staff it is really just a black hole. Now a work camp on the other hand at least offers some profitability. But, the global corporations already have slave labor in China and India, why would they readjust their entire structure for debtors prisons. This is most likely a fear tactic to dissuade people from charging up their credit cards before they declare bankruptcy.


Who do you think will pay for that food, maintenance and staff? The taxpayers will. There are quite a few articles on GLP where people are already being imprisoned for not paying debt so i doubt its a fear tactic. It just another way to rape the American people of what they have left.

+ it is for people unable to pay "debt", i.e. people who used credit because they could get credit and now can no longer make payments. Those living off the government teat are safe.
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That's going to be a lot of people they will have to spend money to incarcerate. blink
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What does a debtor prison really do? I mean it takes food, maintenance, staff it is really just a black hole. Now a work camp on the other hand at least offers some profitability. But, the global corporations already have slave labor in China and India, why would they readjust their entire structure for debtors prisons. This is most likely a fear tactic to dissuade people from charging up their credit cards before they declare bankruptcy.


Who do you think will pay for that food, maintenance and staff? The taxpayers will. There are quite a few articles on GLP where people are already being imprisoned for not paying debt so i doubt its a fear tactic. It just another way to rape the American people of what they have left.

+ it is for people unable to pay "debt", i.e. people who used credit because they could get credit and now can no longer make payments. Those living off the government teat are safe.


That's going to be a lot of people they will have to spend money to incarcerate. blink
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They spent enough under El Presidente to build prisons to house approximately 5 percent of the US population.
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Pfffft..Constitution....like anybody on the payroll in DC has read that silly old thing...

Read it? They probably don't even know what it is.

Sure they do...it's that old dumb thing written by white racist biggots that wasn't meant for our "sophisticated" times.


you should be glad that "old dumb thing" is still around.
cause you wouldnt be typing right here, right now.
im sure if the powers that be could make it dissapear, they would.

It's called sarcasm..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729515


On his/her defense, it is really hard to tell the difference in these bizarre times with things that were unthinkable 30 years ago happening today. :(
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There are quite a few articles on GLP where people are already being imprisoned for not paying debt so i doubt its a fear tactic.
 Quoting: WeAreWatchingYou


Look closer, it's a fear tactic.

Those articles here are always about people that didn't show up to the court hearing and let that infraction go to warrant, then were taken to jail on that warrant. Not for the debt.

100% of the cases, not most of them, but all of them.

Those stories are picked up from time and again and circulate even in the MSM, then posted at sites like this.

100% of the time, the person fails to show up to court for their hearing, gets a warrant, then spends a couple days in jail until their next hearing.

It's nothing but fear mongering and people who don't understand that if you get a notification to go to court, you must show up. If you don't show up, regardless if it's a traffic ticket, or a small claim against you for debt, you will have a warrant issued for your arrest. The cops can either come and get you, but they probably won't, or they will wait till you get pulled over for something unrelated like speeding, then haul you in on the failure to appear warrant.

Believe me, I've had it happen to me several times personally, I'm speaking from experience as well as letting you know, they literally cannot take you to jail simply for being in debt at the moment. Not showing up to court for your trial however, they most def. will.
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07/27/2010 12:36 AM
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Aaaaah, then it will be ze French Revolution Part Deux.

Storm ze FEMA camps, I mean the Bastille!!!
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Believe me, I've had it happen to me several times personally, I'm speaking from experience as well as letting you know, they literally cannot take you to jail simply for being in debt at the moment. Not showing up to court for your trial however, they most def. will.
 Quoting: Brian Moran


The IRS had my father Jailed for 2 years for not paying them taxes they said he owed was that a fear tactic too? He never missed a day in court.
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What does a debtor prison really do? I mean it takes food, maintenance, staff it is really just a black hole. Now a work camp on the other hand at least offers some profitability. But, the global corporations already have slave labor in China and India, why would they readjust their entire structure for debtors prisons. This is most likely a fear tactic to dissuade people from charging up their credit cards before they declare bankruptcy.


Who do you think will pay for that food, maintenance and staff? The taxpayers will. There are quite a few articles on GLP where people are already being imprisoned for not paying debt so i doubt its a fear tactic. It just another way to rape the American people of what they have left.

+ it is for people unable to pay "debt", i.e. people who used credit because they could get credit and now can no longer make payments. Those living off the government teat are safe.


That's going to be a lot of people they will have to spend money to incarcerate. blink


They spent enough under El Presidente to build prisons to house approximately 5 percent of the US population.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1048978


I half expect that they will convert Michigan and Minnesota into Gulags.