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~ This in-depth article is TRULY amazing! There is a detailed DECADES-LONG history of the CIA never letting a good crisis go to waste, and experimenting with mosquito-carried dengue fever releases for biological warfare purposes. The similarity of the symptoms of both dengue fever and oil/benzene/Corexit poisoning are REMARKABLY similar, and there are those in the health fields who are beginning to wonder who's poisoning the people in the Gulf Of Mexico at any given time, BP, or the CIA... or a combination of the two? Truly, this will only add further misery to the entire sad sorry state of affairs, 100 days into the BP disaster...

~ The article:
[link to www.truth-out.org]

~ From the article:

The timing of this outbreak of dengue fever presents two additional problems; the symptoms of dengue fever are very similar to that of exposures to chemicals such as those contained in crude oil and the dispersants currently being used in the contaminated areas of the Gulf of Mexico, potentially making it difficult to diagnose the source of a sufferer's symptoms. Worse yet, there looms the possibility that Corexit and other toxins present in the Gulf area may weaken the immune system, thus, setting the stage for more severe forms of the disease in people who are, or have previously been, exposed to the virus.

As if this were not troubling enough, let us compare the above symptom picture to the symptoms associated with exposure to the dispersants Corexit 9500 and Corexit 9527. The exact risks of exposure to these chemicals have yet to be determined; in fact, the manufacturers' material safety data sheet (MSDS) for Corexit 9500 states: "No toxicity studies have been conducted on this product." The MSDS further states that one should not come in contact with the product or breathe its vapors and that adequate protective skin protection and breathing apparatuses should be worn when handling or working with the compound. Any hints of safe usage within the MSDS on these chemicals should be viewed from the following perspective: the MSDS data assumes limited exposure (for example, while applying the chemical) and the use of adequate protective gear. These statistics do not apply, therefore, to unprotected people who may be subject to long-term, consistent exposure.

Many toxicologists have raised grave concerns, however, about the risks that these dispersants may pose to residents of the Gulf of Mexico area. Dr. Susan Shaw, a marine toxicologist, talked about her recent experience with shrimpers who had been working in the Gulf waters. In an interview on CNN, she addressed the situation of a shrimper who had thrown his net into water, causing the water to splash onto his unprotected skin. She reported that he developed a "headache that lasted 3 weeks, heart palpitations, muscle spasms, bleeding from the rectum ..." and continued, "and that's what this Corexit does, it ruptures red blood cells, causes internal bleeding and liver and kidney damage. ..." She asserts that the combination of oil from the well, combined with Corexit dispersant, increases the toxicity of both substances. In combination, she believes that they are skin permeable and that they aerosolize to produce a breathing hazard as well. The toxins can enter the body through the respiratory tract, but are unlikely to remain localized in the lungs, instead spreading throughout one's entire body system.

Numerous reports have come in from both residents of the Gulf area and journalists visiting the area that many people who are exposed to the water are beginning to experience health problems. Among the most commonly reported symptoms are burning eyes, skin rashes, lightheadedness, dizziness, difficulty breathing, transient numbness and shooting pains, persistent coughing, sore throats, muscle and bone aches, weakness and severe fatigue. More troubling reports, such as those of the shrimpers mentioned above, have included bleeding from the nose and from the rectum, as well as permanent numbness in extremities and complete loss of the sense of smell. It is generally accepted in the medical literature that, although the initial, acute presentation of toxic exposure is generally the most severe, symptoms may linger indefinitely or even result in permanent damage to the body.

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This is THE most serious issue in the US today is the poisoning being done by the dispersants..but only when the deaths start piling up are people going to be worried about more than how pretty their beaches are and where the tourist dollars are going to. (or rather not going to.)

I listening to C-Span right now and they are talking about stuff related to the spill, and one of the suits is upset that not as many people are coming to Florida to spend their tourism dollars.

While I can understand the negative economic impact of this, I am utterly appalled that it is all that is being focused on. More important than tourist dollars ARE PEOPLE'S LIVES, but that keeps getting swept under the rug..or it is reported on briefly, and then on to what day number it is of lindsey lohan's jail sentence.
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what happened after Bonnie? Did the Corexit end up inland or what?

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get your dengue fever vaccine..

they are working on them, read an article last fall that a new one is to be launched soon..


for dengue fever..

when it's corexit.
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Thanks so much for posting this, OP!
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~ Oh, I SO agree about their continued greed in the face of disaster!! Even Jindahl demanding that the oil drilling continue, despite the disaster, despite all of the illnesses coming to light. Understandably, the main sources of income there are the oil industry, tourism, and fishing... but what happens when one has ruined the other two? I also believe that between Michelle Obama going down there and saying 'COME ON DOWN, VACATION HERE!!' and that guy in Florida wanting the government to stop even the little bit of truth that the mainstream media is showing concerning the beaches because it is hurting tourism, is JUST ABOUT as evil as Bush saying the best way to recover from 9/11 was to shop.

~ I think as the days go on, and we are 100 days into this nightmare, and new developments are occurring daily, we will be able to see more and more cases of what could be EITHER Corexit poisoning OR dengue fever. I am of the mind that the powers that be could sway public opinion one way or the other... if too many people are falling ill due to the chemical witch-brew in the air, they can claim that these people have contracted dengue fever. If too many people contract dengue fever for it to NOT be a weaponized form of the virus, and thereby putting the CIA back in the spotlight for their nefarious experiments on American citizens, they can claim it may be from the BP spill...

~ Either way, one would be able to claim to have extraordinary psychic abilities, just by saying that a LOT of people down south are going to be getting sick soon...
~ Y'all Are CrAzY Doom Tards!! But I love y'all anyway... well, not the shills, not so much... ~

~ Wanna know what we're all here for? THEY know: [link to www.youtube.com] ... So if _THEY_ can manage this, why in the world are WE such hateful fail-tards, people ........ ? ~
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~ Either way, one would be able to claim to have extraordinary psychic abilities, just by saying that a LOT of people down south are going to be getting sick soon...
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Why aren't they sick already? Bonnie must have dumped a load on them.
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what happened after Bonnie? Did the Corexit end up inland or what?
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~ That is a good question, and though I haven't heard concrete particulars concerning this, more than a few scientists and meteorologists have speculated that this was going to be the case. Most likely there must be people testing areas to see if Bonnie's limited landfall produced higher inland concentrations of chemicals.

~ Sadly, however, it would most likely be hard to tell, as many eyewitnesses have reported planes spraying the dispersants both day and night, even over cities well inland of the beachfronts.

~ Hopefully, and soon, there will be some hard data for people to see for themselves how dangerous the environment is down there...
~ Y'all Are CrAzY Doom Tards!! But I love y'all anyway... well, not the shills, not so much... ~

~ Wanna know what we're all here for? THEY know: [link to www.youtube.com] ... So if _THEY_ can manage this, why in the world are WE such hateful fail-tards, people ........ ? ~
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~ Hopefully, and soon, there will be some hard data for people to see for themselves how dangerous the environment is down there...
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This the best I can find so far.

"The Environmental Protection Agency has said that air quality testing along the Gulf Coast has not detected the presence of pollution that would cause long-term health problems. According the Alabama Department of Public Health, at least 114 people have gone to local emergency rooms, clinics and urgent care centers since May 14 complaining of ailments thought to be related to the oil spill."

[link to blog.al.com]
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~ I think that they must be collating data in the hospitals, though, to be sure, BP or the government is certainly capable of tampering with this data, and some clean-up crew workers have said that when they began to become ill, they were not allowed to go to the hospitals for treatment.

~ Here is an interesting page and video, concerning the effects of Corexit poisoning in the Gulf Of Mexico... by some officials, the estimates are in the millions of gallons of dispersants used already. Also, Corexit is said to have a 25% or higher kill rate of ANY living organisms that it comes into contact with.

[link to globalresearch.ca]

~ I can tell you, first-hand, two things:

~ 1. I live in Tennessee, some 700 miles or so from those waters, and for the past two weeks, several times during the day, while wearing sunglasses, I can look up and see the sun behind the clouds, and instead of the normal 'shine-through' (i.e., the 'silver-lining') I can see that 'oil rainbow in a puddle' effect... muted, brownish rainbow coloring, where the clouds are just thin enough for the sun to shine through. It is especially noticeable around the edges of the clouds. ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT, and lately, with the full moon, IT IS THE EXACT SAME. As a matter of fact, I just stepped in from having a quick smoke, and again, the clouds in front of the moon have this same oily look to them. In all of my years of sky gazing, I have NEVER seen anything like this, so I believe that the oil is indeed in the atmosphere as well as in the water, to some greater or lesser degree.

... and ...

~ 2. I am a firm believer in the reality of chemtrails, and of planes spraying them... I have witnessed it here in the skies over Tennessee for years. For the last several weeks, there has been VERY little air traffic overhead, and the skies here have been UNUSUALLY CLEAR. There have been many people from other parts of the US saying the same thing, and it has been conjectured that the government has been using these planes to spray the dispersants down in the Gulf Of Mexico.

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I am fairly certain that if we saw the *real* data, we would see a lot of very sick people in the gulf area. Most of the symptoms are being written off as anxiety, other disorders, etc. Sadly, it is unlikely that this information will reach the public until it is too late for a huge number of people.
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I am fairly certain that if we saw the *real* data, we would see a lot of very sick people in the gulf area. Most of the symptoms are being written off as anxiety, other disorders, etc. Sadly, it is unlikely that this information will reach the public until it is too late for a huge number of people.
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~ EXACTLY!! Early on, when people began to become ill, they were told they were experiencing 'mental illness', and there are several older news stories regarding this. Some people have even called this 'Gulf Syndrome Part III', because of what American veterans returning from both Gulf Wars in Iraq received as their diagnosis. They were told that they had PTSD, not DU poisoning or illness from the exposure to the blown oil wells.

~ One key piece of data in the dots that I am trying to connect here is the fact that around July 15th, Goldman Sachs (who makes money every time there is a disaster of any type, it seems, by 'shorting', or betting against such an occurance... as a matter of fact they 'shorted' this entire Gulf Of Mexico disaster before it happened, and therefore made money from it happening...) bought the Belgian company Ontex, makers of among other things adult diapers.

~ I imagine that they (Goldman Sachs) must see growing numbers of victims in the southern states, whether they have Corexit poisoning or dengue fever, or some combination thereof, as yet another way to make money from disasters that become profitable to those who have the 'uncanny foresight' to 'predict' which consumer products will soon be in demand...

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~ One key piece of data in the dots that I am trying to connect here is the fact that around July 15th, Goldman Sachs (who makes money every time there is a disaster of any type, it seems, by 'shorting', or betting against such an occurance... as a matter of fact they 'shorted' this entire Gulf Of Mexico disaster before it happened, and therefore made money from it happening...) bought the Belgian company Ontex, makers of among other things adult diapers.

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How low can they go?
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~ I am sad to say, that I believe we will see them sink even lower, my friends... =( And I never thought that I would type out the words 'adult diapers' or 'bleeding rectums' for the entire world-wide-web to see... Ewww.

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~ I think that what I find troubling about this SUDDEN unexpected outbreak of dengue fever in Florida, is that according to the CDC, it shouldn't be here.

~ Again, from the article:

Prior to the recent Key West findings and still today, the CDC has consistently reported that there have been no outbreaks of dengue fever in Florida since 1934 and none in the continental US since 1946.

~ But, we know from other sources and documents that the military and the CIA HAVE had it in their biowarfare arsenal, and still do to this day.

~ And because of the lethality of Corexit, AND the fact that some of the ingredients are UNKNOWN, and PROPRIETARY, and therefore remain undisclosed to the public upon which it is being sprayed, leads me to believe that there is a distinct possibility that it could be even more dangerous and lethal than even the experts believe it is.

~ Lastly, the fact that Obama is making money from his investments in Nalco, the manufacturers of Corexit...

[link to scienceray.com]

~ Truth is INDEED stranger than fiction... and scarier!!
~ Y'all Are CrAzY Doom Tards!! But I love y'all anyway... well, not the shills, not so much... ~

~ Wanna know what we're all here for? THEY know: [link to www.youtube.com] ... So if _THEY_ can manage this, why in the world are WE such hateful fail-tards, people ........ ? ~
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Thread: all these oil incidents are NO ACCIDENT (Page 2)

damned.........verydamned........668.
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[link to www.conspiracyplanet.com]

[link to www.conspiracyplanet.com]

[link to antimatterradio.com]

~ And lastly, here is the warning label of Corexit 9500:
[link to usahitman.com]
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Good thread.
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that suck bad. had no idea the symptoms of core exit were like breakback fever. i heard that is one of the most horrible ordeals there is. i hate those fkrs. i've been hit with one of their more exotic and horrific bioweapons myself so i know what these sadistical maniacs are willing to do.
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~ LOL, I'm such a geek-ette, forgot to log-in... just HAD to get posting on some of these things!! =)

~ I lived in New Orleans on two separate occasions, in the early 90's, and then again to go through the Katrina disaster... I can tell you that I could STILL see the specific damage to the magnolia trees along Esplanade avenue that I had witnessed from Hurricane Andrew. It took down all of these magnificent old trees, there were limbs down across both lanes for days and days.

~ We think of the bayou area as uncontrollable swampy jungle, but I think that many of the south's ecosystems are slower growing than people think.

~ The fact that Corexit is a highly toxic neurotoxin as well as defoliant can only mean that it's use is designed to strip the area of ALL life, eventually. Some experts say that it only has a 28 day existence, but if some of it's components are undisclosed, how can we know that this is true?
~ Y'all Are CrAzY Doom Tards!! But I love y'all anyway... well, not the shills, not so much... ~

~ Wanna know what we're all here for? THEY know: [link to www.youtube.com] ... So if _THEY_ can manage this, why in the world are WE such hateful fail-tards, people ........ ? ~
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Some experts say that it only has a 28 day existence, but if some of it's components are undisclosed, how can we know that this is true?
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I remember some radio show saying the components it breaks down to last years.
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On the other hand, I have different fingers.
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I'm surprised you don't have more dengue up there. It's not so far away. All it takes is one person on vacation to get it and then go back home. Then they get bitten by one or two mosquitoes and begin passing it around. When people get it here, we get it in waves. When I got it the first time, there were five other people in my neighborhood who got it.

One thing people need to know about dengue - absolutely DO NOT TAKE NSAIDs FOR THE PAIN!!! NSAIDs, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, decrease your platelet count. And so does dengue. There are four types of dengue, one of them is the hemorrhagic variety - t's pretty much like ebola - you start bleeding, you will even see blood under your skin like a bruise even if you haven't been hit there. The other three kinds are not quite as dangerous, unless you load up on NSAIDs. If you take NSAIDs and you have the hemorrhagic kind, you're pretty much toast. There's no real treatment for that kind other than IV fluids and blood transfusions. If you can't stop the bleeding, well . . .

Even the classical forms of dengue (that means non hemorrhagic) can be dangerous if your platelet count gets low enough. That happened to me and I had to call some friends to get a blood transfusion. Of course, I had complicated everything because I had taken tons of NSAIDs (injections, even!) in the days before I realized it was dengue. The pain and discomfort were unimaginable! I kept squirming around and moaning, I just couldn't get comfortable. I didn't know it was dengue!

I went to the doc when I first got sick, but he thought it was just food poisoning. After a few more days of pain, I finally went back for some more tests and he called me that afternoon and told me to get to the hospital because my platelets were dangerously low. This was my second bout with dengue. The first time, I didn't take anything for the pain and just suffered through it. I still ended up in the hospital but my platelets didn't get as low as the second time - when I used the NSAIDs. It was kind of scary. The doc told me not to brush my teeth in case my gums bled. And when I told her I was getting my period in a few days, she said "no, you can't have it now!"

How did I not know I had dengue again? Because it's like any bad flu, you don't know what it is at first and it could be almost anything. But I really should have had a clue because the headaches and body aches are murder - the squirming and moaning. I haven't had the "flu" in thirty years and really had nothing to compare symptoms to.

The first time I had dengue, I had a hard time eating. I didn't want food in my mouth, it was so gross to chew it. I knew if I starved myself it would make things worse so I even bought baby food in jars so I wouldn't have to chew, I could just swallow the food to get it down. But that didn't happen with the second time I had dengue - my appetite was strong and it didn't bother me at all to have food in my mouth. The pain was worse, though. So was the dehydration. I was pale and a puncture wound in my leg turned my whole thigh purple.

Your first clue with dengue: major headache, like none you've ever had, probably right behind the eyes. You'll need something really strong to get it to back off. And it won't go away after a couple of days, body aches follow shortly after, with lots of squirming. You are so uncomfortable, you keep moving around, it's really hard to lie still. So stick with tylenol or narcotics that are NSAID-free until you can rule out dengue, do not use ibuprofen or other NSAIDs. It could prove fatal in the worst case.



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I'm surprised you don't have more dengue up there. It's not so far away. All it takes is one person on vacation to get it and then go back home. Then they get bitten by one or two mosquitoes and begin passing it around. When people get it here, we get it in waves. When I got it the first time, there were five other people in my neighborhood who got it.

One thing people need to know about dengue - absolutely DO NOT TAKE NSAIDs FOR THE PAIN!!! NSAIDs, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, decrease your platelet count. And so does dengue. There are four types of dengue, one of them is the hemorrhagic variety - t's pretty much like ebola - you start bleeding, you will even see blood under your skin like a bruise even if you haven't been hit there. The other three kinds are not quite as dangerous, unless you load up on NSAIDs. If you take NSAIDs and you have the hemorrhagic kind, you're pretty much toast. There's no real treatment for that kind other than IV fluids and blood transfusions. If you can't stop the bleeding, well . . .

Even the classical forms of dengue (that means non hemorrhagic) can be dangerous if your platelet count gets low enough. That happened to me and I had to call some friends to get a blood transfusion. Of course, I had complicated everything because I had taken tons of NSAIDs (injections, even!) in the days before I realized it was dengue. The pain and discomfort were unimaginable! I kept squirming around and moaning, I just couldn't get comfortable. I didn't know it was dengue!

I went to the doc when I first got sick, but he thought it was just food poisoning. After a few more days of pain, I finally went back for some more tests and he called me that afternoon and told me to get to the hospital because my platelets were dangerously low. This was my second bout with dengue. The first time, I didn't take anything for the pain and just suffered through it. I still ended up in the hospital but my platelets didn't get as low as the second time - when I used the NSAIDs. It was kind of scary. The doc told me not to brush my teeth in case my gums bled. And when I told her I was getting my period in a few days, she said "no, you can't have it now!"

How did I not know I had dengue again? Because it's like any bad flu, you don't know what it is at first and it could be almost anything. But I really should have had a clue because the headaches and body aches are murder - the squirming and moaning. I haven't had the "flu" in thirty years and really had nothing to compare symptoms to.

The first time I had dengue, I had a hard time eating. I didn't want food in my mouth, it was so gross to chew it. I knew if I starved myself it would make things worse so I even bought baby food in jars so I wouldn't have to chew, I could just swallow the food to get it down. But that didn't happen with the second time I had dengue - my appetite was strong and it didn't bother me at all to have food in my mouth. The pain was worse, though. So was the dehydration. I was pale and a puncture wound in my leg turned my whole thigh purple.

Your first clue with dengue: major headache, like none you've ever had, probably right behind the eyes. You'll need something really strong to get it to back off. And it won't go away after a couple of days, body aches follow shortly after, with lots of squirming. You are so uncomfortable, you keep moving around, it's really hard to lie still. So stick with tylenol or narcotics that are NSAID-free until you can rule out dengue, do not use ibuprofen or other NSAIDs. It could prove fatal in the worst case.



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~ Thank you soooooooooooo much for your information, I think that it's important that people who have experienced this disease relate their experience. I have heard it before from other people who came down with dengue fever that for the first few days (in one case the first couple weeks!!) they had NO IDEA what they had contracted, and THEIR DOCTORS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS EITHER!!

~ The way to avoid getting dengue fever? AVOID MOSQUITO BITES!! How in the world do you do that if you live in the gulf states?!?! I mean, I always believed that the state bird of Louisiana should be the mosquito, not the pelican (lol) because those little bastards are EVERYWHERE down there, and in the still air of New Orleans, half of the reasons why people use so much air conditioning is to not take a chance that their window screens have holes that can let these bloodsuckers in...

~ Your advice about sticking to just tylenol is life saving advice as well!!
~ Y'all Are CrAzY Doom Tards!! But I love y'all anyway... well, not the shills, not so much... ~

~ Wanna know what we're all here for? THEY know: [link to www.youtube.com] ... So if _THEY_ can manage this, why in the world are WE such hateful fail-tards, people ........ ? ~
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Some experts say that it only has a 28 day existence, but if some of it's components are undisclosed, how can we know that this is true?


I remember some radio show saying the components it breaks down to last years.
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~ Here are the components/composition of Corexit, from WIKI:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

~ From the WIKI:

Compared with 12 other dispersants listed by the EPA, Corexit 9500 and 9527 are either similarly toxic or 10 to 20 times more toxic.

~ Also:

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[23][14] The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[24] According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding.[4]

According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[25] On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it.[3]

Reportedly Corexit may be toxic to marine life and helps keep spilled oil submerged. There is concern that the quantities used in the Gulf will create 'unprecedented underwater damage to organisms.'[26] Nalco spokesman Charlie Pajor said that oil mixed with Corexit is "more toxic to marine life, but less toxic to life along the shore and animals at the surface" because the dispersant allows the oil to stay submerged below the surface of the water.[27] Corexit 9500 causes oil to form into small droplets in the water; fish may be harmed when they eat these droplets.[4] According to its Material safety data sheet, Corexit may also bioaccumulate, remaining in the flesh and building up over time.[28] Thus predators who eat smaller fish with the toxin in their systems may end up with much higher levels in their flesh.[4]
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One way to quickly tell if your narcotics are tylenol based and not NSAID based is by their name. For example, Lorcet and Percocet have "cet" in their names, which means "acetaminophen", or tylenol.

Vicodin also has tylenol, Vicoprofen has ibuprofen. Percodan has aspirin, another "bleeder", so don't use that. Just make sure, you can't feel it when your platelets are low. It just shows in bloodwork. I was such a case (with low platelets and no major bleeding) that they were bringing in all the docs around to "show me off".

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I'm going up to Fort Myers in a couple of weeks. How do we know if there are dispersants in the ocean? What kind of lab would test for this? I called a couple of labs in Fort Myers but they only test drinking water. And I don't drink the tap water there.
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I lived in NO and Lafayette for over 20 years, then HAD to move out of state for my health, chemical injury. I could not walk outside without my skin getting red and burning from the crop dusting and the oil industry and have severe reactive airway disease. This was back in 1994 when I had to leave my children and get to some cleaner farm land in TX, no crop dusting. I am now in North Arkansas in the mtns. My husband and I are sick over what is happening to our beloved louisiana......but cannot get our family still there to wake up and get themselves and our grandkids out of there and out of toxic danger.
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Wilma Subra, Subra Company in New Iberia, LA does testing and knows what to test for. 337-367-2216
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I found someone who wrote a compelling article on how BP is using nasty strategy to limit their liabilities. The media blackout and use of dispersants are part of it - they are using dispersants to cheapen their fines and court costs, basically. I did a thread on it a week or so ago:

Thread: BP's Nasty Strategy To Limit Liability - this is why there is media blackout and use of dispersants

Here's a piece of it:

Under the Clean Water Act (CWA), BP faces fines of up to $4,300 for each barrel spilled. Furthermore, pursuant to Section 2702 of the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 (OPA 90), BP may be required to pay royalties (18.75%) owed to the federal government for the oil gushing from the well.
BP owns 65 percent of the Deepwater Horizon well, Anadarko owns 25 percent, and Mitsui owns 10 percent. Under OPA 90, responsible parties and guarantors are jointly and severally liable for the costs incurred. In this incident, BP has been named the responsible party. Pursuant to OPA 90, a “responsible party” means, in the case of an offshore facility, the lessee or permittee of the area in which the facility is located. Under the definition of responsible party in OPA 90, the fact that Anadarko and Mitsui are also “lessees,” may relate to the potential liability of Anadarko and Mitsui. However, the role of Anadarko and Mitsui as solely financial partners rather than operators of the well is a key issue. Passive investors like Anadarko and Mitsui would normally be required to pay their pro rata share of liability unless it is possible to prove gross negligence on the part of BP.
Gross negligence is defined as “the intentional failure to perform a manifest duty in reckless disregard of the consequences as affecting the life or property of another.”

The question is, given BP’s documented violation of federal safety regulations aboard the Deepwater Horizon, e.g., using an improper cementing technique to seal the well, failing to adequately test and maintain blowout prevention equipment and drilling deeper than BP’s federal permit allowed, did BP know or should BP have known about a condition that could lead to the disaster of April 20, 2010? If the answer is yes, it may be possible to prove gross negligence on the part of BP. If gross negligence can be proven on the part of BP, Anadarko and Mitsui could be fully indemnified.



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Even the EPA seems to have calmed down a bit about their use. I looked on their website recently and they made it out like it's safe to go in the water. There was only a "moderate" warning for the Port Charlotte area in FL. I'd sure like to get some sea water tested but I don't know who to call.

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