Which is superior in nature: individuals or hive minds? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 ![]() 07/28/2010 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humanism or collectivism vs natural rights. The rights of the individual, sovereign individual, are supreme to the rights of the collective. The reason being is that the collective rights are always, always, manipulated by a select few for the many. They end up being controllers, manipulators, tyrants and enemies of humanity. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1048598 ![]() 07/28/2010 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humanism or collectivism vs natural rights. The rights of the individual, sovereign individual, are supreme to the rights of the collective. The reason being is that the collective rights are always, always, manipulated by a select few for the many. They end up being controllers, manipulators, tyrants and enemies of humanity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432You cant deny people are not social animals. But I understand your point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001319 ![]() 07/28/2010 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love that it was someone from China trying to convince us of the glorious benefits of the hive mind. Yes, everything has its pros and cons, but please, let us not forget which one opens humanity up for substantial abuses of power. Once you have 'control' of the hive mind, who is to say that said control will be used to improve the standard of living of the entire 'hive'??? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1049654 ![]() 07/28/2010 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we find the answer to this question in the philosophical implications of quantum mechanics. We find that a particle is both a discrete ("individual") entity while simultaneously being a non-discrete ("collective") wave spread out over the entire universe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047759 ![]() 07/28/2010 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love that it was someone from China trying to convince us of the glorious benefits of the hive mind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001319Yes, everything has its pros and cons, but please, let us not forget which one opens humanity up for substantial abuses of power. Once you have 'control' of the hive mind, who is to say that said control will be used to improve the standard of living of the entire 'hive'??? ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 798722 ![]() 07/28/2010 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "superior" is a human invention. There is no such thing in nature. There are many cycles. There is a "web". And there is constant change, "up" and "down", round and round. What is "superior" in nature, the photon or the star? Each has it's purpose and function in the whole picture, or better movie. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1051472 ![]() 07/29/2010 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "superior" is a human invention. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 798722There is no such thing in nature. There are many cycles. There is a "web". And there is constant change, "up" and "down", round and round. What is "superior" in nature, the photon or the star? Each has it's purpose and function in the whole picture, or better movie. What about the concept of survival of the FITTEST? FITTEST sends superior to me? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1052165 ![]() 07/29/2010 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "superior" is a human invention. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051472There is no such thing in nature. There are many cycles. There is a "web". And there is constant change, "up" and "down", round and round. What is "superior" in nature, the photon or the star? Each has it's purpose and function in the whole picture, or better movie. What about the concept of survival of the FITTEST? FITTEST sends superior to me? What means fit? Do you really believe there is some kind of superior fitness fit for everything? Fitness is constantly changing. A shark may be the fittest in a special enviroment but certainly not on land. Is ebola virus fitter and superior to you because it can kill you?. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 657383 ![]() 07/29/2010 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are no "individuals" in nature. There are only species. You can only exist as an individual in relation to other individuals. Individuals can only exist in groups. Most individuals require something like a "society" to survive. recent studies show human biology is as "hardwired" for care and empathy as violence and ambition. Alone and without the Hive the individual wouldn't even recognize themselves. The "individual" can only emerge from the "hive-mind" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 847425 ![]() 07/29/2010 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "superior" is a human invention. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052165There is no such thing in nature. There are many cycles. There is a "web". And there is constant change, "up" and "down", round and round. What is "superior" in nature, the photon or the star? Each has it's purpose and function in the whole picture, or better movie. What about the concept of survival of the FITTEST? FITTEST sends superior to me? What means fit? Do you really believe there is some kind of superior fitness fit for everything? Fitness is constantly changing. A shark may be the fittest in a special enviroment but certainly not on land. Is ebola virus fitter and superior to you because it can kill you?. We can kill a shark and control Ebola to a certain extent - ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 847425 ![]() 07/29/2010 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are no "individuals" in nature. There are only species. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657383You can only exist as an individual in relation to other individuals. Individuals can only exist in groups. Most individuals require something like a "society" to survive. recent studies show human biology is as "hardwired" for care and empathy as violence and ambition. Alone and without the Hive the individual wouldn't even recognize themselves. The "individual" can only emerge from the "hive-mind" ![]() I agree. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1050078 ![]() 07/29/2010 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are no "individuals" in nature. There are only species. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657383You can only exist as an individual in relation to other individuals. Individuals can only exist in groups. Most individuals require something like a "society" to survive. recent studies show human biology is as "hardwired" for care and empathy as violence and ambition. Alone and without the Hive the individual wouldn't even recognize themselves. The "individual" can only emerge from the "hive-mind" Think of the question as if it appears on a spectrum - do you gravitate more toward the hive or the individual? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 657383 ![]() 07/29/2010 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are no "individuals" in nature. There are only species. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1050078You can only exist as an individual in relation to other individuals. Individuals can only exist in groups. Most individuals require something like a "society" to survive. recent studies show human biology is as "hardwired" for care and empathy as violence and ambition. Alone and without the Hive the individual wouldn't even recognize themselves. The "individual" can only emerge from the "hive-mind" Think of the question as if it appears on a spectrum - do you gravitate more toward the hive or the individual? ideally you strive for balance. understanding your rights as an individual and empathizing with the needs of others as well. "no man is an island" its that simple. The 'individual' has been fetishized. Everyone is encouraged to think they are Rambo in need of nothing from anyone. How often in a day are we hailed as "individuals"? What does it means when "everybody wants to be an individual"? Extremist individualism is as delusional and dangerous as any collectivist enterprise. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1052222 ![]() 07/29/2010 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are no "individuals" in nature. There are only species. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 847425You can only exist as an individual in relation to other individuals. Individuals can only exist in groups. Most individuals require something like a "society" to survive. recent studies show human biology is as "hardwired" for care and empathy as violence and ambition. Alone and without the Hive the individual wouldn't even recognize themselves. The "individual" can only emerge from the "hive-mind" ![]() I agree. speak for yourself. i'm an individual in the fullest sense of the word. |
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