Some comments about the procession and progress of the grand shift of consciousness

I must admit, when first reading the post by nodantheman, I was not exceptionally all warm and fuzzy over it but I also recognized there was intelligence being expressed. My next process was to consider if he was seriously, albeit a bit crudely, expressing his deeply held opinion or was he just using his intellect to stir up reaction. After reading his next posting I am of the opinion he is validly sharing his understanding of the world as he has seen it and experienced it. It is quite obvious his view is somewhat contrary to other views expressed on this thread. My response to his expressed, shared insights and understandings remains, however, "thank you for sharing that, I understand what you are saying, it has a certain validity but I see a different and, I might add, a larger picture".

Frightened? Not quite. I have known for over 12 years about 2012. Being rational and realistic. People don't turn into energy or vapors and vanish.

Look, you do not have special powers that I do not have. You are a human being just like me living in the same world with the very same laws of physics. There is NO WAY you could know what will happen in 2012. No one does, but you have this information? I doubt that.

And my response is not negative. you are implying I am negative? I am not. I am only pointing out what a reasonable human mind would.

Beliefs are colored by education, knowledge of the world you live in and what your parents or guardians taught you growing up.

They are nothing more than YOUR opinion, just as my reply is my opinion. If you do not want to see the other side of the coin, how can you sit in a forum topic and act as if you are enlightened? Even enlightened ones see all sides.

Thanks. Btw, I am not looking for an easy out. I just needed to throw it out there and hear what more advanced travelers have to say. Triangulating, so to speak. I think either direction is a good choice if my intention is right. One direction is a new garden, the other is to attempt the restoration of a garden in which the soil has grown tired, and is choked with weeds. One garden is ready to blossom; the other requires a great deal of painstaking work if it is ever to blossom again.

Just a little bump to see if anyone in the evening crowd has any thoughts on my last post.

Does no one else find this next 20 day cycle in March intriguing?

Good thread and yes as someone pointed out here, we all get hurt if things go really bad. I am healing right now to attest to this. But then we are human for the moment.

That aside, other things may happen and the new world you mention seems to be within my wife and my visions for some reason.

First my wife. She is what would be described as the sleeping prophet. She tells me of "those" dreams. These come to pass, usually not good, but do happen. I also see things and have experiences, but she is more asleep. I once told her, she is like a queen of great power, but does not know it, I see this, yet she sleeps.

One of those which she tells me was not a dream but "real" several times over, we were looking at this new world. We were with others looking down from above the clouds in a large vessel or building as she put it. The world was pristine with colors coming from within not reflected. She described it as heavenly, over and over and she wanted to stay there. She even came to like those others even though they were silent.

In a dream we shared months apart. No, I did not tell her mine, but wrote it down, we both saw ourselves on this planet which was green and good, yet things of old remained. Very few people were here or there as I see contradictions from above, but we saw happy folks living a simple life, close to nature. I still wonder where all the people went to. I was told that there would be a great separation of families and loved ones. New unions would occur and then reunions, this after 17 or 18 years from an event.

Preceding this, I had at least three of seeing myself and others in a body like I now have, yet it was a higher vibrational one for others on the street could not see us. We were going somewhere and that somewhere was like an earth that was clean and vast, not cluttered like this one. I would think that if this happens, our bodies we now have would not make it, or at least this old one of mine which has been beaten to hell and is getting fragile would not work.

One of my latest is some voice telling me that I will shortly be returning to my true body which is elsewhere and sleeping. Prior to that, I was taken out of body and shown a white light being within and told it was a sacred thing and since having my aura read and the person telling me it was pure white tinged in blue which relates to the white soul within.

There is more, and this post is so far out there, I feel safe in putting this out, for I am more a dreamer than anything, even though I have taught science in my career, but remained a right brained artist within. Cheers and fair winds.

Heh, I forgot one saga of this which was interesting. It was also of the new world. I saw myself or others, not sure which on a very primitive world. Pretty much in an era before angiosperms, mostly bryophyta/mosses and earlier. A base was being set up to change the world and I wondered how the hell they or we were going to live there. It was mostly gray and wet, water running through the primitive plants and crews setting out to do their thing. Oddly, the buildings which were pre-fab contrasted with the fauna and looked out of place.

Later I saw pictures at night of this world going through rapid change. The latest one was of lush jungle, yet the same world. I watched two animals meet in front of our group, each an enemy of the other in this world. They went through a ritual of snarls and antics and finally got into a good natured wrestling match. What I learned is, the animals on this world were very intelligent and one,a wolf, led us through the woods and around some swampy area's to a pretty neat human camp. I know this is far out, but it sure is fun recounting it. Anyhow at my age, I stopped being embarrassed. enjoy lol.

Reading this thread made me feel better.