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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
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Lord of the Rings is better.
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Sorry, but I don't think any 'channeling' was involved.

Tolkien wrote LOTR largely as an excuse to showcase his invented languages. He also wrote an extensive backdrop of historical and linguistic materials -- frankly, he was brilliant, but a bit obsessed.

As I understand his writing processes, they were typical of any fiction writer -- write a bit, change a bit, go back, revise, jump ahead, start again.

So I don't think channeling was involved. But that's just my opinion.
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
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You know what is creepy, is Christians love LOTR. Why???
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Sorry, but I don't think any 'channeling' was involved.

Tolkien wrote LOTR largely as an excuse to showcase his invented languages. He also wrote an extensive backdrop of historical and linguistic materials -- frankly, he was brilliant, but a bit obsessed.

As I understand his writing processes, they were typical of any fiction writer -- write a bit, change a bit, go back, revise, jump ahead, start again.

So I don't think channeling was involved. But that's just my opinion.
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I agree. He was a brilliant writer, a clever linguist and just an all round great storyteller. He took what he had of his innate talents and made an enduring story for generations.
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You know what is creepy, is Christians love LOTR. Why???
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Because he was biffles with C.S. Lewis, and he's a huge deal amongst the Seminary students for his christian philosophy writings.

Also, OP, I had the same thought not too long ago, but Tolkein's process and inspirations were very well noted or outright documented.
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maybe not channelled exactly but his worlds seem so diverse and detailed and with so much background material to them that i suspect he was in contact with someone or something.
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I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
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Lord of the Rings was a metaphor about England fighting Nazi Germany. Anyone who's even casually read the books knows this.
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Did you ever wonder what Sauriman was using the innocent hobbits to make in the Shire there at the end, what he was planning to use if for... and if he faked his own death? Like Gandalf the White the fireproof did?

Trust me, It's a lot nicer to read it with Sauron representing Venetian banking system. Don't ever even consider the other interpretation where everyone but Radagast the Brown is actually in secret alliance with Sauron. The elves, for example, are using plausible deniability to get out of being connected to having genetically engineered their own people into Orcs.
Raising a clueless army to engage in a last minute destruction of the means of production at Orthanc and Modor followed the lame gesture at refertilization (one box of dust? One seed?) then hauling ass across the sea sounds like a bunch who is worried about being caught enslaving the natives during a strip mining operation and wants to cover their tracks in case a human (or Hobbit) rights group shows up to inspect the place.

There is a startling lack of oversight on Middle Earth. Of course, we are talking about a universe that was built so shittyly that it could be destroyed by what was essentially a divine Yoko Ono.
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
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More so 'inspired' and based on historical events!

Thread: If one wishes to understand Non Black peoples history in 9 hours...
Thread: Who did Edgar Allen Poe gain his Inspiration from?
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
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You know what is creepy, is Christians love LOTR. Why???
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Nothing wrong with christians loving LOTR.

The very first verses of the bible begin with that there was this group of gods called the Elohim which made man in their image.
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
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Lord of the Rings was a metaphor about England fighting Nazi Germany. Anyone who's even casually read the books knows this.
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Not possible. First of all England and Germany were both industrialized nations fighting each other, while the war in LOTR was about non-industrialized nations fighting industrialized, utilizing nature on their side to fight the fires and machinery. I don't think LOTR has a modern example to compare it too, because industrial societies almost always defeat non-industrial.
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LOTR, was probably given to him by the British Monarchists and the Roman Catholic Church.

As they are both trying to create a "last stand" moment, to solidify the West into a singular race and a singular creed. That is why they are leaving areas controlled by the Roman Catholic Church, alone in certain parts of Europe.

The idea, is to force Swedes out of Sweden, Germans out of Germany and etc, so they flee to these safe havens where their children intermix into a singular "white race", coupled with a singular Church.

From there, the Roman Catholic's can act hysterical and proclaim a British monarch as the "Savior of the West", type thing, like their prophecy(plan incase they lost control of Europe) entails.
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
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Lord of the Rings was a metaphor about England fighting Nazi Germany. Anyone who's even casually read the books knows this.
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Not possible. First of all England and Germany were both industrialized nations fighting each other, while the war in LOTR was about non-industrialized nations fighting industrialized, utilizing nature on their side to fight the fires and machinery. I don't think LOTR has a modern example to compare it too, because industrial societies almost always defeat non-industrial.
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You don't understand metaphor, do you?
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
 Quoting: Ryna de Liane


Lord of the Rings was a metaphor about England fighting Nazi Germany. Anyone who's even casually read the books knows this.
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Not possible. First of all England and Germany were both industrialized nations fighting each other, while the war in LOTR was about non-industrialized nations fighting industrialized, utilizing nature on their side to fight the fires and machinery. I don't think LOTR has a modern example to compare it too, because industrial societies almost always defeat non-industrial.
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You don't understand metaphor, do you?
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I do understand metaphor, I don't think you do, usually in the metaphor the players in conflict have some similarities that correspond to the main themes and conflicts of the story. One of the main conflict of the story is industrialized society vs. unindustrialized / agricultural society. England does not meet that requirement in the slightest, in fact they were the founders of industrialization in some of the most key inventions. So if anything that would make England moreso the "orcs" than Germany.

But maybe read the authors words for himself, because he was asked countless times by friends if it was all an allegory for WW2, and he alway denied it. Did he have experiences from WW1 which he tried to add some of the feelings that he experienced being in war? Sure. But don't try to dumb his books down to the extreme of saying that the Allies were the good races in LOTR and the Axis were the bad races. For it to even be remotely a possible allegory, the "good guys" would have to be non-industrial and the bad guys would have to be industrial because that's the main conflict of the story.
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
 Quoting: Ryna de Liane


You know what is creepy, is Christians love LOTR. Why???
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JRR Tolkien was a Christian. While God and Christ aren't mentioned in the literature, there are various allegories that sort of resemble Christ. Frodo (who was innocent) taking the evil ring kind of represents Jesus who is innocent being forced to suffer for the sins of all. Gandalf resurrecting into Gandalf the White represents Christ's resurrection. And Aragorn being crowned king of Gondor and defeating Sauron represents Jesus Christ returning to the earth to destroy the antichrist.

So there is definitely some parallels in the story...

Parallels like that aren't in a movie, like, say Star Wars. Luke is a farmboy and trained to be a Jedi, ehhh I don't see it. Maybe you could say as Obi-Wan Kenobi died and then returns as a ghost, that that kind of represents a resurrection, but it's still quite different.
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Did you ever wonder what Sauriman was using the innocent hobbits to make in the Shire there at the end, what he was planning to use if for... and if he faked his own death? Like Gandalf the White the fireproof did?

Trust me, It's a lot nicer to read it with Sauron representing Venetian banking system. Don't ever even consider the other interpretation where everyone but Radagast the Brown is actually in secret alliance with Sauron. The elves, for example, are using plausible deniability to get out of being connected to having genetically engineered their own people into Orcs.
Raising a clueless army to engage in a last minute destruction of the means of production at Orthanc and Modor followed the lame gesture at refertilization (one box of dust? One seed?) then hauling ass across the sea sounds like a bunch who is worried about being caught enslaving the natives during a strip mining operation and wants to cover their tracks in case a human (or Hobbit) rights group shows up to inspect the place.

There is a startling lack of oversight on Middle Earth. Of course, we are talking about a universe that was built so shittyly that it could be destroyed by what was essentially a divine Yoko Ono.
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Bro I think the Annunaki have done something to your brain.
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Greetings, mae govannen and peace to all. i am Ryna de Liane, an Elf of the Pleiades. I've been studying the UFO phenomenon since 2004, a time of great awakening for me.

I am growing fairly convinced that JRR Tolkien channeled the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Before you go writing me off as some crazy half baked Legolas fangirl (i don't even like Orlando Bloom), please hear me out.

I didn't really want to believe it first myself...i just kept running into UFO books describing us Pleiadeans as being Elf like (go look up Semjase, the Pleiadean who contacted Billy Meier in the mid-1970s if you don't actually believe me!). I recall things that are hard to explain...and when i read the Silmarillion i began to realize that the ban placed by Eru-Iluvatar on Valinor (for humans that is) paralleled the Terran Quarantine by the Reptilians. (I am not saying every single Reptilian/Dragon is "evil", i've known moral, good, pure Dragons and Reptilians and i've also been unlucky enough to meet two "Elves" who are purely evil.) We Elves of the Pleiades (as well as Sirius and Alnitak in Orions Belt) always knew that humanity had a future in the stars.

In addition to THAT i can tell you all much more...feel free to send me an email at [email protected]

I'm also on Livejournal, my username is "indyj_fangirl"

Namarie and Blessings,
Ryna de Liane
 Quoting: Ryna de Liane


Lord of the Rings was a metaphor about England fighting Nazi Germany. Anyone who's even casually read the books knows this.
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Tolkien explicitly denies this in the preface to the revised 1966 edition.
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Why?

Don't you think human mind can't be wonderfull?
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JRR Tolkien was a Christian.
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Perhaps. They do like to exploit the little people to do their dirty work.





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