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Gulf Loop Current Stalls

 
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Gulf Loop Current Stalls
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Oceanographic satellite data now shows that the Loop Current in the Gulf of Mexico has stalled as a consequence of the BP oil spill [volcano] disaster. This according to Dr. Gianluigi Zangari, an Italian theoretical physicist, and major complex and chaotic systems analyst at the Frascati National Laboratories in Italy.

He further notes that the effects of this stall have also begun to spread to the Gulf Stream. This is because the Loop Current is a crucial element of the Gulf Stream itself and why it is commonly referred to as the “main engine” of the Stream.

The concern now, is whether or not natural processes can re-establish the stalled Loop Current. If not, we could begin to see global crop failures as early as 2011.
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The mechanism by which the oil slick could lead to something like this could have to do with the changed viscosity of the water penetrated with oil to great depths due to the Corexit dispersant; and it could have to do with the darkened water attracting more solar heat, increasing its temperature.



[link to yowusa.com]

Approximately 1.8 to 2 million gallons of Corexit have been spayed in the Gulf of Mexico. This is a critical fact as current satellite data of the Gulf feeds, tell Zangari that the Loop Current in the Gulf of Mexico has clearly stalled. This due to environmental impacts from a man-made introduction of oil, which were then compounded by other agents (Corexit and so on).

Worse yet, these real-time satellite data feeds offers clear evidence to Zangari that a new artificial system has been generated in the Gulf in a remarkably short period of time. It is this new and unnatural system which has changed the viscosity, temperature and salinity of the Gulf's seawater, thereby causing the Loop Current to stall. A system that has existed for millions of years.
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Damn.. So this can cause a "day after tomorrow" type event? Thats so very not good. And they dont even know how they can restart it...
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The main effect - besides sudden, erratic temperature changes - is agricultural doom.
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I suggest everyone read the article at yowusa

I might not agree with all of the Niburu/Planet-X content there, but this article drives the Oil Doom home.

We could have a MAJOR FUCKING PROBLEM on our hands, the scope of which, may not be seen for a while yet....

This is serious folks, one of the more serious issues facing the world/GLP'tards.
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I am still not paying a carbon tax.
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08/04/2010 11:28 AM
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How trustworthy are readings from a satellite when it comes to underwater current readings? Seems a little suspicious? no?
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At present, Admiral Thad Allen is trying to assure Americans that the worst of the disaster has passed and that the oil slicks have disappeared due to natural processes. However the markers from oceanographic satellite feeds Dr. Zangari is studying tell him an entirely different story.

The millions of gallons of Corexit sprayed in the Gulf have given BP and the US government a convenient way to mitigate public concerns by removing the threat from sight. The logic being that since the oil is disappearing, so is the crisis. However, taking oil from the surface and spreading through the water column is not a PR matter. Instead, it has become a convenient way to cover up one massive mistake, with a tragically larger one.


The White House point person was on every news show this morning addressing concerns about the 1 million gallons of dispersant put into the GoM.
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We did have a stronger winter here last year though til spring time this year. I think the polar caps melting is a bigger threat than the oil though, whatever you might think about greenhouse gasses freshwater seems to effect the current and the flow of it.....
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How trustworthy are readings from a satellite when it comes to underwater current readings? Seems a little suspicious? no?
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Well scientists have been studying it for 20 to 30 years I believe. I'm sure they know enough to identify observable changes.
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Damn.. So this can cause a "day after tomorrow" type event? Thats so very not good. And they dont even know how they can restart it...
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Nuclear bombs will probably be used to restart it!

worth a shot :)
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Damn.. So this can cause a "day after tomorrow" type event? Thats so very not good. And they dont even know how they can restart it...


Nuclear bombs will probably be used to restart it!

worth a shot :)
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Damn.. So this can cause a "day after tomorrow" type event? Thats so very not good. And they dont even know how they can restart it...
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Paraphrasing here from TPTB "Never let a disaster go to waste" Wonder what they will come up with to captialize on this...

Mother Nature is pretty awesome maybe she can fix herself... I hope...
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How trustworthy are readings from a satellite when it comes to underwater current readings? Seems a little suspicious? no?

Well scientists have been studying it for 20 to 30 years I believe. I'm sure they know enough to identify observable changes.
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That I don't argue with but how do you measure the current only depending on satellite data? the current is deep down and is measured with bouyus...
Just questioning the information by this scientist...
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Just questioning the information by this scientist...
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Since you asked:

[link to oceanworld.tamu.edu]

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

Evidently it's pretty standard and accurate.
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Just questioning the information by this scientist...



Since you asked:

[link to oceanworld.tamu.edu]

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

Evidently it's pretty standard and accurate.
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Seems to be measuring surface currents.
Sorry I am not trying to be a negative but there are a lot of alarmists outhere with questionable research...

Nice links though, especially the first one. hf
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Just questioning the information by this scientist...



Since you asked:

[link to oceanworld.tamu.edu]

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

Evidently it's pretty standard and accurate.


Seems to be measuring surface currents.
Sorry I am not trying to be a negative but there are a lot of alarmists outhere with questionable research...

Nice links though, especially the first one. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515108

Well the entire point is that the mix of corexit and ocean water changes the overall viscosity which impacts the speed of the current and/or the flow all together.

I'm not sure what your beef is with the premise?

There is likely some relativity or comparative correlation between the surface level current and the current in the water column. No?
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Just questioning the information by this scientist...



Since you asked:

[link to oceanworld.tamu.edu]

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

Evidently it's pretty standard and accurate.


Seems to be measuring surface currents.
Sorry I am not trying to be a negative but there are a lot of alarmists outhere with questionable research...

Nice links though, especially the first one. hf

Well the entire point is that the mix of corexit and ocean water changes the overall viscosity which impacts the speed of the current and/or the flow all together.

I'm not sure what your beef is with the premise?

There is likely some relativity or comparative correlation between the surface level current and the current in the water column. No?
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Well.
I went through the article more thorough and my beef is: if you have oil on the surface on the water of course it is gonna affect the readings if you measure the surface current.
...Different fluid, heavier and probably slows down the waves over bigger parts of the water aswell. As it dilutes with the water, especially the corexit.
However, how do you know that this is gonna affect the current long term?
A temporary change is not the same as a permanent...
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Please don't put me in a category as a non-believer though, as I do see worrying patterns from this oil spill. Especially I wonder what kind of long term effects this will have, and!! especially if the spill continues, doesn't seem totally fixed yet if you ask me.

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Gotta go, will be back later this evening. hf
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However, how do you know that this is gonna affect the current long term?
A temporary change is not the same as a permanent...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515108

Agreed, we don't know.

But we can't rule out that the effect maybe cascading or have a domino effect of some sort. We are in unprecedented territory as the cause is not natural but man made and never seen before.

Anyway, the point of the corexit is to SINK the oil within the water column so as to "see no evil" if you will and make it more difficult for Federal authorities to calculate the amount of oil to assess the per barrel fine.

That said, it means there is oil below the surface, whether it is detected or not, and - as it is mixed with corexit - it is impacting the viscosity and speed of the current, both underwater and at the surface.
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