Marines ´beat US workers´ in Iraq --THIS IS GOOD

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Sorry picked it off google news.
If they roughed up US folks,enough so they have retained lawyers,imagine what was done to captured enemy.Think our people are wearing thin 2 or 3 tours will do that to you.
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I want to see more of these troops duking it out with workers stories, stateside.

Summer will be such a drag without some action.

Looks like even the front lines U.S. Military is seeing through the illuminate fog of lies.

It´s foolish to expect those soldiers who´ve been forced to remain in Iraq as slaves of the US govt to be happy about it. Must really suck for them to have their lives falling apart back home, facing death every day, seeing their friends get blown to bits, and then see these guys there to make money. I don´t condone it but I sure can empathize with their stress and frustration.

What the fuck do you expect really. A bunch of soldiers taken away from there families to fight against a bunch of crazy ass muslims. Just to have to watch a bunch of freeloaders move in to take advantage of there dire situation and make a fortune at it too. Then when the soldiers go home they can´t get proper medical care and are so fucked up they can´t cope with society and hold down a job. That´s if they even manage to make it home in one piece. They should kick the crap out of all these opportunists and really cry me a fucking river when one of these stupid ass contractors gets there head cut off. What kind of a dumb ass person would even enter hostile terroritry to make a few extra bucks knowing this would be his fate if he gets take hostage. Just fuckin stupid this is and the media plays it right up. For once I would like the media to tell us how dumb these idiots really are. Stay the fuck out of my house and you wouldn´t see the end of my baseball bat hit your face is basically the moral of this storey. More of this kind of news is needed to bring back some sanity in the USA.

I never expected that kind of rebellion and possible disention within the ranks of the military.

And they got guns and stuff.

You have link to the whole article?

Taser them.

Some american guys are saying that taser is good.

The Marines are heartless, immoral, seething, bloodthirsty animals.

Damned to Hell, they are.

Divide and conquer.
We`re at war with ourselves.
:dubya:

Tell it to the marines

how would you feel if you would be hired to "defend" your country, then learned that halliburton makes 5 times the amount your doing, and that the marines were engage to "defend" those workers?

Fuck, i would ask for a ransome.

Hail to the Thief!

especially, if thoses marines dont agree with the war because they beleive it has everything to do with oil.

the military rally should just be two branches.....like the "democracy" lol.....so they can berate each other and eventually fight each other.....why is it a supprise that the lowest moron in a military uiniform (marines) would treat YOU like shit.......they would do the same to anyone who isnt a marine....navy air force army, security mercenary....whoever!

thats a good point,

people dont change, situation does.

now they get a taste of what we are putting out to the Iraqi´s. I thought these contractors are tough, I guess not all

Yeah, what´s left of the military that has not gotten killed yet is waking up.

Maybe they are tired of being some punk bitches death slave...instead of fighting for a truthful cause...keyword truthful.

Like when was the last truthful cause?

Wonder how they will PR this

Damm,firing on our own troops!guess those big money boys dont want this to end till they have their share of the loot.Falluja is where the 4 contractors were strung up and was one of the reasons the town was destroyed.

What a mess we are in and you know if Bush could run again, those people making the big bucks would vote for him in a heartbeat.

Would be an interesting but one sided battle contractors against the troops.

this story is complete bullshit.

THE CONFLICT IN IRAQ
U.S. Marines Detained 19 Contractors in Iraq
Most of the men are American security guards. Some say they were abused after being accused of firing at civilians and troops.
By T. Christian Miller
Times Staff Writer

June 8, 2005

WASHINGTON — U.S. Marines forcibly detained a team of security guards working for an American engineering firm in Iraq after reportedly witnessing the contractors fire at U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians from an armed convoy, the military said Tuesday.

After three days of detention in jail cells at a U.S. military base in Iraq, 19 employees of North Carolina-based Zapata Engineering, including 16 Americans, were released last week.

All have resigned from the company and are returning home, U.S. and company officials said.

The employees have said that the incident in Fallouja last month was a case of mistaken identity. Several have accused the Marines of verbally and physically abusing them while they were in custody.

A Marine Corps spokesman denied that any abuse had taken place and said an investigation was continuing. No Iraqis or Americans were injured in the incident that prompted the arrests.

"The Americans were segregated from the rest of the detainee population and, like all security detainees, were treated humanely and respectfully," Lt. Col. David Lapan said Tuesday in an e-mail confirming the incident.

This is believed to be the first time that the U.S. military has detained private security personnel in Iraq for allegedly putting American troops and Iraqi civilians at risk. By some estimates, there are as many as 20,000 such workers in Iraq protecting American civilians and U.S. and Iraqi government officials.

The incident has reignited debate about the accountability of security contractors in Iraq, where they operate in a legal gray zone. Contracting experts said it was unclear what authority the U.S. military would have to detain American civilians in Iraq.

"Two years into the [Iraq war], and there´s still a hole when it comes to a legal structure," said Peter W. Singer, a Brookings Institution scholar who has written extensively on private military contractors.

"Where in the chain of command do [contractors] fit? Where is the accountability? If something bad happens, who investigates it, who prosecutes, and who punishes?" he asked.

The incident has also raised new questions about the treatment of captives by U.S. military forces. Several of the detained Zapata employees said that they were stripped and threatened by a snarling military dog while Marines jeered and took photos.

"I never in my career have treated anybody so inhumane," one of the contractors, Rick Blanchard, a former Florida state trooper, wrote in an e-mail message. "They treated us like insurgents, roughed us up, took photos, hazed us, called us names."

Zapata officials said they were continuing to investigate the incident, but had found no evidence that their security guards had fired at U.S. military personnel.

Instead, they said, it appeared that the guards had fired warning shots in the air when an unidentified vehicle approached the convoy as it was passing through Fallouja on a routine mission.

Zapata is one of several companies contracted by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to dispose of explosives in Iraq. The firm´s workers operate from an isolated outpost south of Fallouja.

"Our personnel did not fire on the Marines," said Mary Richards, Zapata´s senior vice president for operations. "Based on everything that we know and everything that we have collected, they followed the rules that are required when working as a contractor in Iraq."

Lapan, the Marine Corps spokesman, gave a different account of the circumstances leading up to the detention.

On May 18, he said, a Marine patrol in Fallouja reported receiving fire from a convoy of late-model trucks and sport utility vehicles. The Marines also saw gunmen in the convoy fire at civilians in the streets of Fallouja, where reconstruction was taking place.

Three hours later, a second set of Marines at an observation post reported receiving fire from vehicles matching the description of the convoy involved in the earlier incident, Lapan said.

The Marines stopped the convoy using spiked strips in the road and took 16 Americans and three Iraqi translators into custody. Of the Americans, 14 were armed security personnel, according to the Corps of Engineers.

Lapan said the vehicles and weapons, which were owned by the Corps of Engineers and loaned to the workers under the contract, were impounded as part of the investigation.

The reason the men were released remained unclear on Tuesday. Lapan did not respond to follow-up questions.

The contractors were "safely transported to their compound near Baghdad, along with representatives of the company that employed them," Lapan said.

Contractors have disputed many parts of the Marine account.

Mark Schopper, a lawyer for two of the contractors, said that his clients, both former Marines, were subjected to "physical and psychological abuse."

He said his clients told him that Marines had "slammed around" several contractors, stripped them to their underwear and placed a loaded weapon near their heads.

"How does it feel to be a big, rich contractor now?" the Marines shouted at the men, Schopper said, in an apparent reference to the large salaries security contractors can make in Iraq.

He also said that during their detention, the workers´ relatives in the United States received phone calls from people with American accents threatening to kill their loved ones if they talked about the incident.

Schopper said he had contacted the FBI and his congressman, Jim Gibbons (R-Nev.), about the incident.

"It was repulsive, appalling treatment," the attorney said.

Jana Crowder, the founder of a support group for the wives of American contractors in Iraq, said she had been in contact with two wives of the detained men.

She said the men were not allowed to call their families or others during their detention.

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cry me a river

they hired lawyers, the real ones behind it all

The name of the company the contractors worked for is called Zapata Engineering. Hmmm... where have i heard the name ´Zapata´ before?

Perhaps some additional Googling is in order... this rabbit hole may go a lot deeper than we can possibly imagine...

In 1953, Bush got money from Brown Brothers Harriman and, with partners Hugh and Bill Liedtke, formed Zapata Petroleum. By the late 1950s they were millionaires. Bush bought subsidiary Zapata Off-Shore from his partners and went into business on his own in 1954. By 1958, the new company was drilling on the Cay Sal Bank in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico. These islands had been leased to Nixon supporter and CIA contractor Howard Hughes the previous year and were later used as a base for CIA raids on Cuba. The CIA was using companies like Zapata to stage and supply secret missions attacking Fidel Castro’s Cuban government in advance of the Bay of Pigs invasion. The CIA’s codename for that invasion was “Operation Zapata.” In 1981, all Securities and Exchange Commission filings for Zapata Off-Shore between 1960 and 1966 were destroyed. In other words, the year Bush became vice president, important records detailing his years at his drilling company disappeared. In 1969, Zapata bought the United Fruit Company of Boston, another company with strong CIA connections.

AC 1747--

Good sleuthing!

And don´t forget the possible Zapata connection to the Kennedy assasination. Or the Zapata Oil drug running operations...

This entire nightmare called the "Iraq War" revolves around GHWB and his oil mafia.

called Zapata Engineering. Hmmm... where have i heard the name ´Zapata´ before?
i believe That was also used as a CIA front