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why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?

 
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
where did life come from?
how did it start?
can't answer that one, because you would have to accept the belief in a higher being


BS.

"Abiogenesis".
"Panspermia".

I don't believe in a higher being and I answered, you lose.


then you are too stupid to understand, life did not "just happen" you still did not answer my question?
if you believe in evolution then you have to believe that life was just an accident - then you are just an accident.
well maybe you were and that is why you are too dumb to understand.
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I think it's so funny how evil and insulting relitards are lol
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Creative Design belongs in a Mythology class - Not a Biology Class.


thank you, finally someone with a little common sense!!!!


lol... not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP?
lmao!
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my bad, i read it wrong. sorry.
i will have to take that "thank you back"

but you are still a retard!!!
"Common sense is something very Uncommon" - Ben Franklin
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
then you are too stupid to understand, life did not "just happen"
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Why not?
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
If you go all the way back to the big bang, that is as far as the theory can take you.


Bullshit... M theory, string theory all go far beyond and "outside" our universe in scope.


Evolution admits that it cannot yet determine scientifically what the first cause outside of the universe was,


True... but primarily because evolution is a feild of biology and not astrophysics.


At the same time Science offers no alternative that can explain how the universe came into being in the first place.


Repeating yourself.
It offers many... see above.



man that was good!!!!


No it wasn't, it just sounded good to a mouth breather like you because it was written nicely and seemed to support your position.

But as you can see it was in fact deeply flawed with a number of fundamental errors that render the entirety invalid.

Fail.
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You started off good then ended with a thud.
Don't be little...The Irish can't afford that kind of reputation...ha
"My brain won't shut up"
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
where did life come from?
how did it start?
can't answer that one, because you would have to accept the belief in a higher being


BS.

"Abiogenesis".
"Panspermia".

I don't believe in a higher being and I answered, you lose.


then you are too stupid to understand, life did not "just happen" you still did not answer my question?
if you believe in evolution then you have to believe that life was just an accident - then you are just an accident.
well maybe you were and that is why you are too dumb to understand.


I think it's so funny how evil and insulting relitards are lol
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i love this, this is so much fun!!!!
"Common sense is something very Uncommon" - Ben Franklin
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
one creation theory is that god created a universe in which natural selection dictates the evolution of species.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
It's not taught cause it's not Purtnunt...K?
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To whom? Many "theories" are taught which are not pertinent...

When someone decides what is or is not pertinent regarding theories, they are imposing their biases on the learner. Rather present all relevant "theories" and let the learner use his/her mind to determine if it is pertinent.

Or is a person not able to think for themselves anymore?
They must be told what to think?
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
You are the retard, you take a "theory" for fact and don't even have an open mind to anything else, because that is what you were taught in school.
so you are the sheep, just following along without any sense of your own.


Changed 1 word...

You are the retard, you take a "theory" for fact and don't even have an open mind to anything else, because that is what you were taught in church.
so you are the sheep, just following along without any sense of your own.

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yes, i go to church and i went to collage too, but i just don't take a theroy for truth.
you don't want to believe in God so you go along with the dumb asses that came up with evolution.
if evolution is correct, then where did life come from?
how did it start?
can't answer that one, because you would have to accept the belief in a higher being - that being is God and you can't deal with the truth!!! that was from a movie wasn't it?
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Yes you do, you take a book (a far fetched theory/story) with no scientific basis, no proof at all and you believe it, simple as that.

The evolution theory doesn't need an explanation of what was before the (last) big bang to see that it exist.
Because as far as we can follow the process in reverse due to archeology and biology the evolution theory is the most logical explanation based on evidence we Do have.

It would be great if we did have an answer what was before the (last) big bang based on evidence but we don't and neither do you but again we don't need it to proof evolution.

You say it's god, we say we don't know.

And IF it turns out there is a consciousness that created a process what we call evolution then it will be scientifically proven.

Until then, we don't know, you don't know, and the people who wrote the bible a long time ago certainly didn't know.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Because that crazy Christian lobby usurped the buzzword "intelligent design".

Look, its obviously both. Its intelligent evolution.

Oh, my can't wrap their Bible addled brain around that concept.

Pathetic.

Opiate of the masses.

Well give them some damn methadone.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Creative Design belongs in a Mythology class - Not a Biology Class.

thank you, finally someone with a little common sense!!!!

lol... not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP?
lmao!

my bad, i read it wrong. sorry.
i will have to take that "thank you back"

but you are still a retard!!!
 Quoting: dirtydog1967


You did surprise me with your reply OP.

Then I figured you musta read it wrong.

Still I was going to let it slide. lol.

Pretend somehow I won.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
because most people would rather believe a lie than the truth.
simple as that. people seem to think that we are just too smart to believe that we were created and would rather believe we crawled out of the ocean.
i guess that evolutionist believe that lighting some how struck a lake and created life.
then over billions of years we evolved into humans from a one cell microb.
anyway, how do you account for all the different forms of life?
i do belive that animals can ADAPT to their eviroment, but not evolve into different forms of life.

just some thoughts. blink
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you know why... the devil is at work...
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Creative Design belongs in a Mythology class - Not a Biology Class.

thank you, finally someone with a little common sense!!!!

lol... not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP?
lmao!

my bad, i read it wrong. sorry.
i will have to take that "thank you back"

but you are still a retard!!!


You did surprise me with your reply OP.

Then I figured you musta read it wrong.

Still I was going to let it slide. lol.

Pretend somehow I won.
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i know - i got carried away there for a minute, i was really wanting someone to agree with me (LOL)
but i think i am outnumbered here, but that is ok, i love a good fair fight!!!!
and in a real fight, i usually win (LOL)
"Common sense is something very Uncommon" - Ben Franklin
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
If you go all the way back to the big bang, that is as far as the theory can take you.

For a universe to exist there had to be a cause outside of the universe. If there was no cause, then no universe.

There had to be something or someone that exists outside of the time space continuum to cause the universe to come into existence.

Nothing breeds nothing.

Evolution admits that it cannot yet determine scientifically what the first cause outside of the universe was, and if you say it was God, they say prove it because they make no claim to know the first causation and lay the burden of proof on the creationist who says first cause is God.

Still the question remains for Evolution as to first cause.

They don't like the answer of God being the first cause because they say there is no evidence for that.

At the same time Science offers no alternative that can explain how the universe came into being in the first place.

They who believe Evolution have great faith that....

A. Science presently has no evidence for first cause, but will will one day discover the evidence that reveals first cause.

B. First cause is unknown, but it was absolutely not God.


man that was good!!!!
thanks!!!
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NOBODY has witnessed any evolution ever except micro!!!
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
where did life come from?
how did it start?
can't answer that one, because you would have to accept the belief in a higher being


BS.

"Abiogenesis".
"Panspermia".

I don't believe in a higher being and I answered, you lose.


then you are too stupid to understand, life did not "just happen" you still did not answer my question?
if you believe in evolution then you have to believe that life was just an accident - then you are just an accident.
well maybe you were and that is why you are too dumb to understand.


I think it's so funny how evil and insulting relitards are lol

i love this, this is so much fun!!!!
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oh I can tell... most of you thoroughly enjoy fighting. I think it's rather sad. Of course you think your religion is the only right one as well? lol... God will have a hay day smacking all you little whiny bitchy religitards. You are the freaks that PUSH people away from God rather than show them the light.. duh.. Keep pushing. :)
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Creative Design belongs in a Mythology class - Not a Biology Class.


thank you, finally someone with a little common sense!!!!


lol... not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP?
lmao!


my bad, i read it wrong. sorry.
i will have to take that "thank you back"

but you are still a retard!!!
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You're just pissy because you're getting pwned lmao!
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
but i think i am outnumbered here, but that is ok, i love a good fair fight!!!!
and in a real fight, i usually win (LOL)
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lol you just had to slip that in didn't you lmao!

INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT!

LMAO!
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Creative Design belongs in a Mythology class - Not a Biology Class.


thank you, finally someone with a little common sense!!!!


lol... not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP?
lmao!


my bad, i read it wrong. sorry.
i will have to take that "thank you back"

but you are still a retard!!!
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god is watching you
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Evolution is an explainable theory based on science and fits with models. Intelligent design is based on a badly translated story book that makes no sense. Do you want schools to teach about the tooth fairy, easter bunny and santa too?


let me see - a one cell microb crawled out the ocean and decided to become an animal that could walk on land and then --------- oh yeah, let's teach about the easter bunny, the tooth fairy and santa, that all makes perfect sense to me!!!!
it is about as probable as evolution.
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Typical retard statement. It's just easier for the morans to believe in some story book fable than science...it's too scary for them....lol
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Creative Design belongs in a Mythology class - Not a Biology Class.

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thank you, finally someone with a little common sense!!!!

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lol... not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP?
lmao!

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my bad, i read it wrong. sorry.
i will have to take that "thank you back"

but you are still a retard!!!

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You're just pissy because you're getting pwned lmao!
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Best part is, he pwned himself. chuckle
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
OP: "You have no theory on the cause of life witout a higher being".

Answer- abiogenesis, panspermia.

OP: "That didn't happen so you didn't answer my question."

That sums up your entire argument OP.

Not doing very well...

You didn't answer my question, you said "Life DID NOT just happen".

I ask you again... why not?
And bear in mind I am locked and loaded for any standard Creationist response about odds and chance and probability.

Y'know OP, I am sure you are well intentioned but you are really not doing the Creationist movement any favours in this thread... just sayin lol.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
because most people would rather believe a lie than the truth.
simple as that. people seem to think that we are just too smart to believe that we were created and would rather believe we crawled out of the ocean.
i guess that evolutionist believe that lighting some how struck a lake and created life.
then over billions of years we evolved into humans from a one cell microb.
anyway, how do you account for all the different forms of life?
i do belive that animals can ADAPT to their eviroment, but not evolve into different forms of life.

just some thoughts. blink
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to drive a wedge between people and God, to undermind you and who you are, with doubt. to break your spirit. to make you believe life is meaningless, but the government will give your life meaning. it use to be, that our beliefs influenced law and our lives, it was recently, separation of church and state, but here recently i've noticed a small change. it appears the government no longer accepts Jesus but are using the bible (with a spin) to promote their own agendas. i watched pelosi with her explanation of "the Word" and i didnt know if i should have laughed or cried. and this theology of not needing Jesus to get into heaven, i dont know about these people......

this equal justice "doctrine" or "collective salvation" are foriegn doctrines to my ears, and causes the hairs on the back of my neck to rise. great deception is here, gird yourselves well. i love the internet, it gives people the opportunity to say what is really on their minds, unfortunately, it appears to be an overwhelming majority of non-believers. and they are mostly confused, seems everyone who has a bible is a christian, yet it isnt so. there are so few christians, but alot of forgeries. with this in mind, im starting to wonder how many people i know or meet in my day to day life are as hateful as they are here, perhaps they are silent cause they believe they are a minority? if coupled with the christian look alikes, the new agers and the like, true christians are but a trace element.

i am thinking that soon something is going to happen, it has to, there is to much and to many things going on for something not to pop loose. if one was to apply mathematics to this problem, one would find that we are living way into borrowed time.

its getting bad enough that im starting to wonder if Jesus will find faith when he returns. and the funny thing is, they scoff at jews and the way they are yet turn around and do they very same crap themselves! and then say they are more holier than israel. inbetween their rhetoric, worshipping the sun (cme) and saying how we should go to war with mexico. but they believe in God. and some of them dont. and no one believes in the bible or in a heaven, but you say they are going to burn in hell if they change not their ways, then they believe, if only in their terms, and your not a christian cause you judged them so unjustly, yet if they would read the bible, which they dont believe, they would see that it was written.

i dont believe it is mans right to dictate to the creator what is right or wrong. i dont believe homosexuals will be in heaven, i honestly believe that it is written they are an abomination to the Lord, and there is no place in heaven, which is perfect, for an abomination. ok, so what if i am slightly wrong? it is written that one should love the sinner but not their sin. and i do, and i dont judge the people i do know that are this way, but i dont love their sin either. and i dont think there should be any gay marriage either.

is the bible real or false, i say it is real. the jews have kept the old testament intact, and there are plenty of parts and pieces of the new testament to confirm it as well. albeit they did have a congregation of men to determine what is and is not acceptable to put in the bible, but i also believe God is the one who is ultimately in control as well. besides Jesus said, walk in the light that you know. he is coming shortly.

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Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Creative Design belongs in a Mythology class - Not a Biology Class.

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thank you, finally someone with a little common sense!!!!

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lol... not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP?
lmao!

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my bad, i read it wrong. sorry.
i will have to take that "thank you back"

but you are still a retard!!!

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You're just pissy because you're getting pwned lmao!


Best part is, he pwned himself. chuckle
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not quite, just a bunch of lunatics and retards that too stupid to think for themselves.
"Common sense is something very Uncommon" - Ben Franklin
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
but i think i am outnumbered here, but that is ok, i love a good fair fight!!!!
and in a real fight, i usually win (LOL)


lol you just had to slip that in didn't you lmao!

INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT!

LMAO!
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yeah, because I am BIGGER than most of you computer keyboard warriors!!!!
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Creative Design belongs in a Mythology class - Not a Biology Class.


thank you, finally someone with a little common sense!!!!


lol... not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP?
lmao!


my bad, i read it wrong. sorry.
i will have to take that "thank you back"

but you are still a retard!!!




god is watching you
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i know - i should be more kind, i will try harder.
"Common sense is something very Uncommon" - Ben Franklin
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
You are the retard, you take a "theory" for fact and don't even have an open mind to anything else, because that is what you were taught in school.
so you are the sheep, just following along without any sense of your own.


Changed 1 word...

You are the retard, you take a "theory" for fact and don't even have an open mind to anything else, because that is what you were taught in church.
so you are the sheep, just following along without any sense of your own.


yes, i go to church and i went to collage too, but i just don't take a theroy for truth.
you don't want to believe in God so you go along with the dumb asses that came up with evolution.
if evolution is correct, then where did life come from?
how did it start?
can't answer that one, because you would have to accept the belief in a higher being - that being is God and you can't deal with the truth!!! that was from a movie wasn't it?
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You are a fucking liar. Did you honestly go to "collage?" LOL You retarded piece of shit. It is spelled "COLLEGE". A collage is a bunch of pictures put together in a frame. And you don't take "THEROY" for truth. Yeah, I don't take "THE ROY" for truth either. It is spelled theory, you dumb fuck. I DIDN'T go to college and I barely graduated from high school and I am a hell of a lot smarter than you are. So you should ask for a refund.

And as for your question: "Where did life come from?" I don't know the answer to that but then neither do you. You can't even spell college so I don't think you would have a fucking clue where life comes from. But just because I don't know where life comes from does NOT mean I have to believe in God or worship some dead Jew on a stick. You are a complete idiot.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Evolution is an explainable theory based on science and fits with models. Intelligent design is based on a badly translated story book that makes no sense. Do you want schools to teach about the tooth fairy, easter bunny and santa too?


let me see - a one cell microb crawled out the ocean and decided to become an animal that could walk on land and then --------- oh yeah, let's teach about the easter bunny, the tooth fairy and santa, that all makes perfect sense to me!!!!
it is about as probable as evolution.


Typical retard statement. It's just easier for the morans to believe in some story book fable than science...it's too scary for them....lol
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You are absolutely correct. Over 93% of scientists are atheists because they are intelligent and they use logic and reason in their thinking. So instead of honestly reading about evolution, Christians prefer to believe that there is an invisible man in the sky who can see everything they do. And he knows when they have been naughty and he knows when they have been nice. And if they are bad, he puts a lump of coal in their stockings. And if they are good, he pats them on the head, and says "Well done, little Christian." I wish they would grow up and realize that they believe in fucking Santa Claus.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
OP: "You have no theory on the cause of life witout a higher being".

Answer- abiogenesis, panspermia.
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"An international science-and-education foundation is offering a $1,000,000 prize to anyone who can ‘explain how genetic code arose spontaneously’!"
[link to www.us.net]

So, how did you spend your $$Million?


OP: "That didn't happen so you didn't answer my question."

That sums up your entire argument OP.

Not doing very well...

You didn't answer my question, you said "Life DID NOT just happen".

I ask you again... why not?
And bear in mind I am locked and loaded for any standard Creationist response about odds and chance and probability.
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Ohhh, goody. An Evo-tard with a calculator.

So what are the odds of a single living cell spontaneously forming by random chance from inorganic compounds? Feel free to reference any unknown laws that may apply.

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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
because most people would rather believe a lie than the truth.
simple as that. people seem to think that we are just too smart to believe that we were created and would rather believe we crawled out of the ocean.
i guess that evolutionist believe that lighting some how struck a lake and created life.
then over billions of years we evolved into humans from a one cell microb.
anyway, how do you account for all the different forms of life?
i do belive that animals can ADAPT to their eviroment, but not evolve into different forms of life.

just some thoughts. blink
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All religion are based on a common template where man is viewed as someone who is weak and unwise. Unable to make rational and logical decisions to save himself, he must rely on Gods or higher forces of nature to guide and protect him. In addition to being weak and unwise, he must follow a set of rules and regulations, failure to do so often results in a horrible fate such as the Christian Hell or being reborn as a lesser being in the case of some Asian religions. This is how I see all religions on planet Earth.

Why is Evolutionary Theory taught in schools? Because there are more public schools than private religious ones, due to Constitutional restrictions, any publicly funded educational institution is prohibited from teaching religiously influenced material. It is similar to teachers in public schools not being allowed to pray in class. However, if you prefer to learn about Divine Creation, taking the public school approach may not be a bad idea after all as physicists are beginning to discover that perhaps there is evidence of a Divine Creator in the physics of the universe. But if you must, you can always enroll in a religious school where they'll tell you to cut your hair, follow a dress code, not have booze on campus, etc.

But if you want to take a step further, you can choose not to learn anything and untether your consciousness from everything. In other words, don't go to school , just drop out and space out at everything.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
claim:
>>>"Over 93% of scientists are atheists."
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Of the millions of college scientific degreed how many are Christian, again..?

I think what you are trying to say is the teachers at the university level are 93% atheist. The other 7% just haven't been purged yet or are in a field of mathematics/engineering. The political purging does not reflect truth in science or intelligence, only political correctness. The atheistic secular humanism politics is MARXISM.

Loma Linda university teaches YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISM, and turns out doctors phd, runs a hospital, ect.
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Re: why is the THEORY of evolution taught in public schools and not Intelligent Design?
Why is Evolutionary Theory taught in schools? Because there are more public schools than private religious ones, due to Constitutional restrictions, any publicly funded educational institution is prohibited from teaching religiously influenced material.
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Evolution theory is a state sponsored pagan religion. It was adopted from previous Egyptian/babylonian transmutation.
Excluding evolution does not promote any religion, it only keeps the facts observed which can then be used to support a religion, whichever religion it would support.





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