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stargazer (OP) User ID: 1061276 United Kingdom 08/09/2010 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone has thoughts on this? Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah. Quoting: PsemeniGiven I have a vast respect for Christ consciousness I'll share that I think that Jesus "Christ" was made into being a messiah, and is and was not, as a being, spirit or human, a messiah to begin with, much less a false one. It's tricky what the ones who fabricated all this religious dogma about the life and meaning of Jesus have done. To see your question as written kind of makes my heart drop into my stomach because when one does come to recognize the trickery and deception they might do something along the lines of throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water...they'll reject the truthful and vital Christ consciousness energy as a complete and total fallacy. The Trickster's goal is achieved when this happens. Why do you say Christ Consciousness instead of cosmic or universal consciousness? I dont like to use the term christ consciousness, as I find it suspicious. I heard of mass consciousness before where a group of beings i.e. humans become connected mentally/spiritually. What if the term christ consciousness is used as a means of christ being able to control people that is if he is a deceiver. I know christ consciousness has a different meaning. It's reaching a higher consciousness and I'm guessing you become more sensitive to others and build a connection with others. I'm just looking at the possibilities. |
stargazer (OP) User ID: 1061276 United Kingdom 08/09/2010 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754098I think you are a deceiver and a liar, just like your father, your messiah, Satan. See ya judgment day. We will see if your messiah can help you then. I'm not lieing. I didnt say Christ is the false messiah, I said its possible that he maybe. There is a difference. Since I'm guessing you are a typical christian, can you explain why the bible promotes stoning, murder etc.? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1063185 Canada 08/09/2010 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah. Quoting: stargazerI think you are a deceiver and a liar, just like your father, your messiah, Satan. See ya judgment day. We will see if your messiah can help you then. I'm not lieing. I didnt say Christ is the false messiah, I said its possible that he maybe. There is a difference. Since I'm guessing you are a typical christian, can you explain why the bible promotes stoning, murder etc.? One of the most interesting artifacts of being infested with Satan is the inability to question the infestation. Most of what you call "typical Christians" are actually followers of Satan disguised as the Almighty. When that evil gets into their heads they develop a formula that tells them that they are being caused to question by the evil one and so their minds shy away from attempting rational and reasoned thought. This is how the wicked protects itself and how so many who believe themselves to be "good" people are held in thrall by the wickedness. This mental protection that the evil places in their minds is part of the proof that they follow the evil. The evil will always set about to make each of its followers less than they have the potential to be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1054590 United States 08/09/2010 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah. Quoting: stargazerI think you are a deceiver and a liar, just like your father, your messiah, Satan. See ya judgment day. We will see if your messiah can help you then. I'm not lieing. I didnt say Christ is the false messiah, I said its possible that he maybe. There is a difference. Since I'm guessing you are a typical christian, can you explain why the bible promotes stoning, murder etc.? That is the Old Testament. The Old Testament states eye for an eye. It talks of a jealous god. It has a group of human beings it calls chosen that are allowed to rule us. This started before Christianity. Moreover, we are these chosen people sacrificing goats at the temple? Does this sound like something the creator of all needs?? I believe in most of Jesus' teachings. The one with which I disagree are the ones that got distorted from human beings. He was not God, he said so himself. He, like all of us, is a son of God. |
MARK HOLSCHER User ID: 1063439 United States 08/10/2010 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deception & Lies Built Christianity in 325 CE Quoting: stargazerI have studied Christianity and other beliefs for quite some time now and I can’t believe how people can believe in a religion that promotes oppression, murder as well as many other crimes. Like Christianity for example, there is a passage that promotes stoning, if you lookup passage Deuteronomy 21:18-21. I'm starting to believe that both God and Allah are the same and he is the false god as both religions have immoral teachings like in Islam, apparently its good to fear Allah. I have read about an African belief about the chitauli and there is a story that states that before the chitauli arrived, africans believed that God dwelt under the earth and after they were told he is in heaven. What if Satans greatest deception wasn’t that he didn’t exist but what if his greatest deception was fooling the Christian population in believing Satan is God and God is Satan. There’s also the possibility that the name God might have come from a different belief. I have heard of a pan-semitic deity called Gad who was worshipped by Hebrews during the Babylonian captivity. ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] ) Also from what I read about Christianity, I have come across the Piso theory. There are some that believe that Christianity was created by the Romans and another article I found states that the New Testament was written by the Roman Piso family ( [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] , [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] ) Anyone has thoughts on this? Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah. I read the Lamb will open the seven seals one by one and also the lamb having seven horns: [link to en.wikipedia.org] THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH IS EVERYTHING. THE LIE IS EVERYTHING ELSE. THE TRUTH IS JESUS CHRIST AND THE FATHER OF LIES IS SATAN. THE TRUTH WORKS BY LOVE AND CREATES LIFE. THE LIE WORKS BY HATE, DISINFORMATION, MURDER AND DEATH. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1058520 United States 08/10/2010 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also do you guys think it is a possibility that Christ might be the false messiah. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754098I think you are a deceiver and a liar, just like your father, your messiah, Satan. See ya judgment day. We will see if your messiah can help you then. Only a sith deals in absolutes, I guess you can't accept the fact that others might honestly think this way and question things and thinking for ourselves. Your god is the one that killed 2 million people: [link to dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com] |
MARK HOLSCHER User ID: 1063439 United States 08/10/2010 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It doesn't seem to me that it should matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1061424The real God is the one that doesn't particularly care what the fuck you think. So...just search the God that is their but isn't paying the least bit attention to you...especially if you have stupid shit to talk about. EVERY ATOM THAT IS IN YOU IS THE TRUTH THAT WORKS BY LOVE. TO EXPRESS HATE AS IN YOU COMMENT "The real god is the one that....bla bla bla'. WHEN YOU EXPRESS HATE, YOU DISTROY YOUR OWN ATOMS AND YOU DIE. HERE'S A THOUGHT THAT CAN RENEW YOUR MIND, DRINK FROM THE CUP OF LIFE AND ACCEPT THE BAPTISM OF THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. [link to knol.google.com] |
MARK HOLSCHER User ID: 1063439 United States 08/10/2010 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the spiritual dimension of reality is a realm of EXPERIENCE, not "blind faith"... that's why christianity suits the infantile... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 955563THE TRUTH IS THE SPIRITUAL DEMENSION, THAT IS REALITY, THAT IS FAITH. THATS WHY THE TRUTH IS POWER AND AUTHORITY AGAINST WHICH NO ONE CAN STAND AGAINST. THIS IS CHRISTANITY, THIS IS LIFE. AND CHRISTIANS ARE BABIES IN CHRIST YOU ARE CORRECT. TO BE INFANTILE IS HOW ONE COMES TO CHRIST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I CAN SEE HOWEVER YOU HAVE BECOME YOUR OWN GOD. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1063495 Canada 08/10/2010 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | trust only in the creator, there can only be one true creator. Quoting: MARK HOLSCHER 1063439the creator of the universe DANE THE TRUTH WORKS BY LOVE AND CREATES LIFE. THE LIE CAN'T CREATE ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE IS NO LOVE IN HIM. THE TRUTH IS JESUS CHRIST AND THE LIE IS SATAN. The teachings of Jesus make for a much more palatable way of life that the lies told to the ancient Hebrews by the prince of liars pretending to be the Creator. Those of you who live by the philosophy of Jesus will certainly spread much more happiness than those who follow Yahweh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1014858 United States 08/10/2010 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've often thought this op. If I recall in revelations it said that most of the world would believe the lie and follow the supposed anti christ. Sounds like christianity to me has already fulfilled that prophecy. Jesus also said the way was short and narrow and very few people would ever find it, with christianity having billions of followers it doesn't sound to me as if that way is narrow or having very few followers. If I am not mistaken Jesus also said that very few would ever know his father but many would claim to, again this sounds like christianity. I believe Jesus was a good man with a great message, however I do not believe that Jesus would have been a follower christian dogma. His message is the exact opposite of what christians profess to follow. I believe tptb have used the bible as a tool to control us and manipulate our thinking. Certainly there are gods out there or beings who aspire to be godlike, but as I have often heard "if it expects or demands worship it is not divine. |
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stargazer (OP) User ID: 1061276 United Kingdom 08/10/2010 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since I'm guessing you are a typical christian, can you explain why the bible promotes stoning, murder etc.? Quoting: Eve_2000bcI wasn't the AC that made their 2 cent cheap shot at you. I will however enlighten you who started brain washing people and when it all started. Adam was Enkis biological son. He wanted to start a blood line. Adam failed so then Enki came down and lied to Mary and told her he was God. He is not God though! He seduced and had sex with mary and 9 months later Jesus was born. Enki and both Enlil didn't stop there! Enki brain washed Mary into believing he was God and continued to brain wash Jesus. The whole time he lied to Jesus and told him to lead people away from Cains jewish religion and lead the people to Christianity. He swore to Jesus he would be leading people to unity and love but what Jesus did was start a bunch of holy wars. The mer name Christ strikes a cord with me because blood thirsty Christians then want a man to be the anti Christ. They are trying to accuse Cain and it's ridiculous! Christians have no idea Enki is the biological father to Jesus. If they did I'm pretty sure they would deny it and claim it to be a lie. The sad reality is that there is no such thing as Christ and anyone who follows any Religion is duped. Where did you get your story from? It doesnt make sense. Your story and timeline is mixed up. Mary wasnt even born yet when Adam was around. They are 2 people from two very distant times. Didnt Cain murder his brother out of jealousy. So how can he promote the Jewish religion unless the Jewish religion promotes Satan. From what I heard from the sumerian religion, Enki is the Creator God, and Enlil is a leader (half-brother of enki) who hated humans and tried to have them killed during noah's time (the flood). I believe Enlil is the leader who told Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree of good and evil to keep them ignorant where as Enki, the creator, wanted humans to be free and to be better than what they were and not be slaves. Thats what I believe. Wasnt Enki a scientist and creator god who loved humans and saved noah from the flood and Enlil a human hating powerhungry leader. I heard Enki is Noah's biological father. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1058843 Slovenia 08/11/2010 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If, in any culture, children are taught, You are born in sin and are sinful by nature— If children are given a message that amounts to Don’t think, don’t question, believe— If children are given a message that amounts to Who are you to place your mind above that of the priest, the minister, the rabbi?— If children are told, If you have value it is not because of anything you have done or could ever do, it is only because God loves you— If children are told, Submission to what you cannot understand is the beginning of morality— If children are instructed, Do not be willful, self‐assertiveness is the sin of pride— If children are instructed, Never think that you belong to yourself— If children are informed, In any clash between your judgement and that of your religious authorities, it is your authorities you must believe,— If children are informed, Self‐sacrifice is the foremost virtue and the noblest duty— then consider what will be the likely consequences for the practice of living consciously, or the practice of self‐assertiveness, or any of the other pillars of healthy self‐esteem. ― Nathaniel Branden, in The Six Pillars of Self‐Esteem |
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2012gregg User ID: 933586 United States 08/11/2010 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | laffin...Yulius Cesar I've asked xtians the same question, OP in5D: [link to www.in5d.com] Maya 2012: [link to www.maya12-21-2012.com] in5d YouTube Channel: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1061276 United Kingdom 08/11/2010 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not have the time line mixed up. I do realize Enki came before Adam and Adam came before Jesus. Quoting: Eve_2000bc2000bc in Eden a chimp looking woman who was one of our primitive ancestors birthed a half Annunaki son and died giving birth to Enki's son. Enki called him, Adam. That was around 2000bc Eden was located in Iraq near a town called Eridu. My time lines are very accurate. Annunaki do not age like humans do. They have the perfect DNA. Enki lived on for thousands of years before he died. He did seduce and lie to Mary. He then had sex with her out of wed lock and left her in a Isreali desert impregnated. She was so scared that an Annunaki came to her that she rushed to her cousin Joseph to marry her because she knew she bore an Annunaki child. She believed whole heartily that Enki was God but he is not! He is just a elder Annunaki. Enki is also the dragon in Revelation 17. He was sent here to cause babble and confusion. With one stroke the many who follow him follow a unrighteous path away from God who owns the Earth. Enki has riches,influence,power and the people who are stupid follow him believing in the dragon. The dragon is he, Enki. Born from a Draconian mother. A Draconian is a dragon looking creature from the sea. Draconian is a evil ET that is set to work for the dark forces. An unholy beast. Enki is a deceptive manipulator,shape shifter,and a unholy demon who lies and believes he is God. His brother is Enlil. Enlil later became known as Lucifer. Jesus was not the biological son of God. He was the son of Enki and that made Jesus Annunaki. It was through Enki brain washing Jesus to believe he was God that pisses me off even more. The mer name of Christ is what Enki wanted Jesus to tell people. It started a holy war right there and the dragon Enki was very pleased people were to finally be more separated so he and the other elder Annunaki could control the masses. Why I said that about Cain is because Cain and his children and his grand children first developed shamash cults and practiced them. Then Shamash cults turned into the jewish religion. Mary was one of Cain's grand daughters. If you would look at Annunaki and assume they live like humans and die at 100 years old like humans do then you are correct about the time line,but Annunaki are capable of living up well to one million years old. They do not age like humans with their imperfect DNA. Please tell me what is the source of your info to add credibility to your version of the story. I thought Enki wasnt an annunaki. From what I heard he created the annunaki to work in mines and then felt sorry for them because of harsh working conditions. So who do you think is god? Anu? I thought Enki was also known as Ptah, the creator. How are you so sure that Enki isnt the creator? There's alot of deception these days and its difficult to see the truth at times. |