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HardTruth

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you're right.

arguing with anyone who's only response is "the bible says so" is a pointless endeavor and a waste of time.


I gave you proof. The Bible says the Jews are indestructible. You can see that with your eyes.


Shhhhh.


A dead book or the living will of God.

He can rewrite the past anytime fool.

Shutup and be still before the Lord.
 Quoting: Benjamin 1061831


Well, I see that Puddleglum's forward momentum regarding his false religion has come to a screeching halt....lol!!
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you're right.

arguing with anyone who's only response is "the bible says so" is a pointless endeavor and a waste of time.


I gave you proof. The Bible says the Jews are indestructible. You can see that with your eyes.


Shhhhh.


A dead book or the living will of God.

He can rewrite the past anytime fool.

Shutup and be still before the Lord.


Well, I see that Puddleglum's forward momentum regarding his false religion has come to a screeching halt....lol!!
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 Quoting: HardTruth

scheming
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Miracles of Islam:

[link to www.miraclesofislam.com]



Uh oh, Christians got some stiff competition.
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Miracles of Islam:

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Uh oh, Christians got some stiff competition.
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At 1:58 you can clearly see it's reptilian, laying on it's belly like an alligator!!
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There is No Evidence for the Story of the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus
“The crucifixion story of Jesus Christ is mythical, based on pagan religions, and makes no sense:

1.There is a complete absence of evidence for the events described - no authors mention the phenomenal events that supposedly occurred at the time of Jesus' resurrection, and, there are no records of Jesus being crucified in the first place. This is despite there being multiple historians of the time who kept extensive records of events in that era, especially of unusual events and the misdeeds of rulers. The only records we have are those written by Christians themselves, the Gospels. And within each of those gospels nearly all details of the crucifixion and resurrection are different.[/u] Very important details, such as Jesus' last words, are so different that it appears they are simply being made up by the authors. The earliest Christians did not know simple details such as where Jesus was buried.

2.Most the details of Jesus' death and rebirth are similar to the existing myths surrounding god-men in that era. The similarities to the Christs of other pagan religions are shockingly detailed, so much so that early Church fathers had to defend themselves against pagan critics who said that the stories of Jesus were simply pagan stories with new names.
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Arguing with anyone who's only response is "the bible says so" is a pointless endeavor and a waste of time.
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I saw this post, i should have listened. chuckle

I took me like 5 posts to establish who the OP was talking about concerning who the real Jews are according to him, genetically or just religiously because he doesn't know what he is talking about himself.

And when we finally came to an understanding so we could move on the the next question he twisted and bended my question out of context, pulled out one of his one-liners and took off.

And most likely, he took off feeling proud about himself. chuckle


I should have know better. chuckle

The problem with old people is that they can't process new information or anything contrary to their foundation. At a certain age, their perception of the world is what it has become with no possibility to chance it. It's like a building of information, once it's build up, it's hard to change anything in it's foundation.


And i still didn't get an answer about what he is smoking (avatar). tounge

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Arguing with anyone who's only response is "the bible says so" is a pointless endeavor and a waste of time.


I saw this post, i should have listened. chuckle

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That was my post, and clearly I should have taken my own advice.

Never it let it be said I'm not a hypocrite!
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Do you ever say anything new? You are a broken record.
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lolatu potkettle
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Arguing with anyone who's only response is "the bible says so" is a pointless endeavor and a waste of time.

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I saw this post, i should have listened. chuckle

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That was my post, and clearly I should have taken my own advice.

Never it let it be said I'm not a hypocrite!
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chuckle
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after a thousand years of oppression let the world hear these words once more, SAVE US OH' LORD FROM THE WRATH OF THE NORSEMEN!

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Yea, except for the 6 or so million that were massacred in WWII.

The maths doesn't add up. It take 3 1/2 hours to cremate one body. Do the maths.

:9teen: I'd watch my mouth if I was you 1049761, smart arse remarks like that will have to be answered for if you die in your sins; If you would like to know more about this subject from a biblical point of view.

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Oh, so now the "claims" made by a certain group is considered the "word of god" and to question it is a "sin?"

9teen.47™, I've told you many times before what you can do with your sh_t tracts!!


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Something I can never grasp is how Christians, brainlessly in awe of the so-called "Jews", never acknowledge the plain scriptural definition that "He is not a jew who is one outwardly, but inwardly", and that literal circumcision is meaningless, being merely an illustration of the circumcision of the heart. And that blood genealogy does not identify one with Abraham - only faith does.

wtf, people?
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[link to egodeath.com]
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Thanks for the link!! Excellent
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I have tons of new material,
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I'd like to hear more.
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Miracles of Islam:

[link to www.miraclesofislam.com]



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That angel is HUGE!
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The Jews don't give us any proof. I don't see what,s the point. They deny lots of Christian dogmas though, just liek the atheists and the Moslems.

Their very existence is the proof. They are the enigma of all the races in the world. They remain a separate race and are never assimilated into others. They were cast out of their nation but remained a nation in exile. They have been regathered again as a nation. This has never happened to any other people. This is what the Bible predicted.


Religion is the greatest form of mass mind control yet invented.

The Anunnaki priesthood in Babylon began to invent a whole new history and religious "truth", through which they could control the people mentally, emotionally, and, as a consequence, physically. In doing so, they replaced spiritual truths with fairy tales about mythical people, which the masses were told to take literally At this point, they were still referring to "gods" plural because the Illuminati's manipulation had not yet reached the stage where the Anunnaki and other gods could be transformed into one "god". When that change came it would eliminate the more obvious records of their existence.



The Hebrew priesthood would achieve this, together with the English translators of the Bible. The religion of Babylon created the mould, even the detailed stories, for those that followed. For example, where have you heard this before? In Babylon they worshipped a trinity of Nimrod, the father, symbolized as a fish; Tammuz or Ninus, the son, who was said to have died to save humanity on December 25th; and Queen Semiramis, the Babylonian "Isis", who was symbolized as a dove. They said that Nimrod and Tammuz, the father and son, were "one".



When Tammuz died for the sins of humanity, the priesthood said he was put in a tomb and, three days later when they rolled back the stone, he was gone. All this was thousands of years before Christianity and it is just one of so many versions of the "Jesus" story that were told long before "Jesus" was supposed to have lived
. Oh yes, in the spring rituals to mark the death and resurrection of Tammuz/Ninus, they offered buns inscribed with a solar cross - the hot cross buns of the much later "Christian" festival called Easter.



Christianity is just recycled "paganism" that condemns "pagans" as evil. What hypocrisy. Even the term "Testament" is the entomological confirmation that it is literally all a load of balls.

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clappa
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Christianity is just recycled "paganism" that condemns "pagans" as evil. What hypocrisy. Even the term "Testament" is the entomological confirmation that it is literally all a load of balls.

link:
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1063586


“They drank from that spiritual rock and that rock was Christ.” (1 Cor. 10:4). These are the identical words found in Mithraic scriptures, except that the name Mithra is used instead of Christ. Mithraism was a pre-Christian religion.

The Star of David symbol originally appeared approx. 6,000 B.C in the most ancient history of India as the symbol of the SUN.

Two of the most powerful early bishops, Irenaeus and Papias record that Christ lived to be very old, "flatly denying as 'heresy' the Gospel stories as to his crucifixion at about thirty years of age." [link to www.paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com]

Origen, one of the heralded Fathers of the Church and described by Saint Gregory as "the Prince of Christian learning in the third century," wrote: "Every soul comes into this world strengthened by the victories and weakened by the defeats of its previous life." In 325 AD, at the Council of Nicea, for the sake of unity, all passages making reference to reincarnation were removed from the scriptures. Puts a new meaning to the term “Ye must be born again.”
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Christianity is just recycled "paganism" that condemns "pagans" as evil. What hypocrisy. Even the term "Testament" is the entomological confirmation that it is literally all a load of balls.

link:
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


“They drank from that spiritual rock and that rock was Christ.” (1 Cor. 10:4). These are the identical words found in Mithraic scriptures, except that the name Mithra is used instead of Christ. Mithraism was a pre-Christian religion.

The Star of David symbol originally appeared approx. 6,000 B.C in the most ancient history of India as the symbol of the SUN.

Two of the most powerful early bishops, Irenaeus and Papias record that Christ lived to be very old, "flatly denying as 'heresy' the Gospel stories as to his crucifixion at about thirty years of age." [link to www.paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com]

Origen, one of the heralded Fathers of the Church and described by Saint Gregory as "the Prince of Christian learning in the third century," wrote: "Every soul comes into this world strengthened by the victories and weakened by the defeats of its previous life." In 325 AD, at the Council of Nicea, for the sake of unity, all passages making reference to reincarnation were removed from the scriptures. Puts a new meaning to the term “Ye must be born again.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1049761




Absolutely!!

"Jesus said, 'If they say to you, From where have you originated? say to them, 'We have come from the Light, where the Light has originated through itself.'" The Book of Thomas, Nag Hammadi Texts.

In Jer. 1:5, God says, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." This is a biblical implication that we existed in some form before we were born.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:.... (Rev 3:12)

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; (1Co 15:50)

The above kind of rules out resurrection now doesn't it!!
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"Every soul comes into this world strengthened by the victories and weakened by the defeats of its previous life." In 325 AD, at the Council of Nicea, for the sake of unity, all passages making reference to reincarnation were removed from the scriptures. Puts a new meaning to the term “Ye must be born again.”



Absolutely!!

"Jesus said, 'If they say to you, From where have you originated? say to them, 'We have come from the Light, where the Light has originated through itself.'" The Book of Thomas, Nag Hammadi Texts.

In Jer. 1:5, God says, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." This is a biblical implication that we existed in some form before we were born.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:.... (Rev 3:12)

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; (1Co 15:50)

The above kind of rules out resurrection now doesn't it!!
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body. That has never made any sense to me to begin with. I'm studying a course called "Lost Christianities" and the Professor says Jesus taught that the resurrection was about the Soul/Spirit and not the body. He taught that our Soul/Spirit is imprisoned and it needs to be rescued. If you read between the lines, that would mean he taught how to avoid Re-Incarnation. I wouldn't doubt for a moment that the "white light" is a huge trap.
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you're right.

arguing with anyone who's only response is "the bible says so" is a pointless endeavor and a waste of time.
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Bingo.
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Well, I see that Puddleglum's forward momentum regarding his false religion has come to a screeching halt....lol!!
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 Quoting: HardTruth

It is called an IP ban. I get it all the time that is why I have the signature I have. HaHaHaHa Wrong again.
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you're right.

arguing with anyone who's only response is "the bible says so" is a pointless endeavor and a waste of time.


Bingo.
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If the Bible says that something is going to happen and you can see it with your eyes, then bingo, you have proof that it was written by someone who knows the future. I am talking about detailed, unambiguous prophecies.
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"Every soul comes into this world strengthened by the victories and weakened by the defeats of its previous life." In 325 AD, at the Council of Nicea, for the sake of unity, all passages making reference to reincarnation were removed from the scriptures. Puts a new meaning to the term “Ye must be born again.”



Absolutely!!

"Jesus said, 'If they say to you, From where have you originated? say to them, 'We have come from the Light, where the Light has originated through itself.'" The Book of Thomas, Nag Hammadi Texts.

In Jer. 1:5, God says, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." This is a biblical implication that we existed in some form before we were born.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:.... (Rev 3:12)

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; (1Co 15:50)

The above kind of rules out resurrection now doesn't it!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!


It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body. That has never made any sense to me to begin with. I'm studying a course called "Lost Christianities" and the Professor says Jesus taught that the resurrection was about the Soul/Spirit and not the body. He taught that our Soul/Spirit is imprisoned and it needs to be rescued. If you read between the lines, that would mean he taught how to avoid Re-Incarnation. I wouldn't doubt for a moment that the "white light" is a huge trap.
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Indeed the flesh is a prison, and we are all tricked into reincarnation thru the laws of Karma!!

Memories erased and stolen, sent back to build TPTB their civilization on a fairly young and toxic world!!

How you beat karma is to let go of everything, forgive all, demand no justice for past offences to your person, and most of all forgive yourself!!

We are our own judges in the afterlife, even the christians bible hints at it, "Judge not lest ye be judged," and Forgive us our sins AS WE forgive."!!

We give our permission, for the most part, to be reincarnated!!

Take for example the following story:

I was given a time limit in heaven right from the start. The days were much longer there; I had 77 of them in which to relax before I incarnated once again. I judge this to be at least 10 years on Earth, because I was allowed to "peek" at my current mother's life as it progressed.
My first view of her was when she was about twenty years old. I periodically checked up on her for the rest of my time in heaven, getting to know her before I was born as her daughter (she had me when she was thirty-four).

I actually knew her in spirit, of course, but as spirits we're sometimes very different from our earthly selves. I was trying to become familiar with her human personality in this life, which was formed from a great deal of hardship, as I observed while there.

Even though I had hand-selected my new life, I was literally counting the days until I could return to human form. It's hard to leave a comfortable home for an uncertain future! And surprisingly, that is very much emphasized in heaven: you never know what might happen on Earth.

There's a dark place, like a cave, where spirits go to fall toward their incarnate life. Before you enter, a group surrounds you, blessing you and praying that everything will go as it was divinely planned. But of course, there are no guarantees.

The falling itself didn't scare me - it's like going down a dark, nondescript elevator shaft with different levels flashing by. On occasion your soul stops at some level to be "tinkered with," to be adjusted to life in a physical world or to have your memory blocked. One of these "tinkerers" asked me nervously if I was absolutely sure I wanted to do this. And I told him yes. I was excited to be living again.


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It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body.
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Jesus was raised in his body.


Luke 24:39 (King James Version)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
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So, you stole your name from a C.S. Lewis story. Not very original.

There is no real proof on this planet of most christian myths, including the existence of Jesus.

Give up.
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It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body.


Jesus was raised in his body.


Luke 24:39 (King James Version)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
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I doubt very much this is true, but if so, lets not rule out the fact that Jesus had a twin brother too!!
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Ok sure

So tell me where the Bible says this:

A guy born in Austria, a failed painter, is going to rise to power somewhere in a place called Europe in around 1933 and eventually he's going to try and murder all the jews (and homosexuals and gypsies and disabled people) he can find and then gas them to death with zcylon-b.

then around 1947 a bunch of europeans will create state called Israel and plop it down smack-dab in the middle of old palestine and claim they did the world a huge favor.

Then, a group of "believers" in a place called America will start flooding into politics in the latter half of the 20th century and they will build the biggest military the world has ever seen and will pursue a foreign policy that they hope will more or less speed armageddon along, since they clearly think that "God's plan" isn't good enough to work on its own.

If the bible had said all that, you might have an argument.
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The subject is the Jews and what the Bible says about them. You compared them to Kansas and the Wizard of Oz. Stick to the point. There is no comparison between Kansas existing and what the Bible says about the Jews.

I know you will not see this because you are so scatter brained. The Bible doesn't tell you how to tie your shoe either.
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It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body.


Jesus was raised in his body.


Luke 24:39 (King James Version)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


I doubt very much this is true, but if so, lets not rule out the fact that Jesus had a twin brother too!!
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth

Give me the verse on that.
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you're right.

arguing with anyone who's only response is "the bible says so" is a pointless endeavor and a waste of time.


Bingo.

If the Bible says that something is going to happen and you can see it with your eyes, then bingo, you have proof that it was written by someone who knows the future. I am talking about detailed, unambiguous prophecies.
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Sorry. They are only detailed in the interpretation. Not in the actual words.
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And Shift along the Axis
From matter to Spirit
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