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Give me the verse on that.


Oh its not in your bible, its one of those gold nuggets intentional left out, that all the offspring of the flesh and blood Elohim were always twins!!
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Then give us the source. You will understand if I don't just take your word for it.
 Quoting: Puddleglum


You'll find evidence of that in The Coptic Gospel of Thomas. In the first verse the author calls himself Didymus Judas Thomas. Didymus in Greek means "twin." Thomas in Aramaic means "twin." Some ancient Syriac traditions, such as The Apocryphal Acts of Thomas, indicate that Jesus and Jude were not just brothers, they were IDENTICAL TWINS.
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It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body.


Jesus was raised in his body.


Luke 24:39 (King James Version)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


It's a fairy tale, remember???? It's the story of the SUN and has simply been personified.

The church Father Tertullian (160-220 AD), an ex-Pagan and Bishop of Carthage, admits the true identity of Christ by stating in refutation of his critics: “You say we worship the sun; so do you.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1049761


Christians worship the Son, not the sun. Anyone who says otherwise, no matter what position trhey hold, is someone who has fallen into apostasy.

Anyone who calls Christianity a fairy tale is someone who has done very little studying into it's evidences, here is a good place to start, read The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel. It will prove to you without much of a shadow of a doubt that the Resurrection occurred (at least to those with an unbiased open mind).
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Christ rose from the dead and we can see the Jews with our own eyes.


RUN!!! ZOMBIE CHRIST!!!



A zombie never really died. Jesus actually died but rose from the dead.

A zombie will eventually die. Jesus is alive for ever more.


A zombie is someone who died, then came back to life. Christ sounds exactly like a zombie to me.

And how could you possibly know that a zombie will eventually die?

You are wrong. Look it up before you go on making a fool of yourself. A zombie never really died.


technically correct.

like vampires, zombies are technically "undead" - neither dead nor living.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657383



i believe the definition is actually "living dead".

both living and dead at the same time
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It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body.


Jesus was raised in his body.


Luke 24:39 (King James Version)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


I doubt very much this is true, but if so, lets not rule out the fact that Jesus had a twin brother too!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Give me the verse on that.


Oh its not in your bible, its one of those gold nuggets intentional left out, that all the offspring of the flesh and blood Elohim were always twins!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!



Then give us the source. You will understand if I don't just take your word for it.



THE ACTS OF THOMAS
(Christian-Gnostic Apocrypha)

CONCERNING THE SERPENT


31: And when he had said this, a great serpent came out of a hole, darting his head and lashing his tail on the ground, and said with a loud voice to the apostle: "I will say before you for what reason I slew him, for to this end have you come, to put my works to shame." Yes, speak on." And the serpent: "There is a certain beautiful woman in this village over against us; and as she once passed by my place, I saw her and fell in love with her, and following her I kept watch on her.

And I found this young man kissing her, and he had intercourse with her and did other shameful things with her. Now it would be easy for me to disclose them before you, but I dare not do it. For I know that you are the twin brother of the Christ, and do ever abolish our nature. But not wishing to disquiet her, I did not kill him in that very hour, but watched for him, and as he came by in the evening I smote and slew him, the more especially since he dared to do this on the Lord's day." But the apostle questioned him, saying: "Tell me of what seed and what race you are."

And he said to him: "I am a reptile of the reptile nature, the baleful son of a baleful father; I am the son of him who hurt and smote the four standing brothers;  I am son of him who sits upon the throne and has power over the creation which is under Heaven, who takes his own from those who borrow; I am son of him who girds the sphere about; and I am kinsman of him who is outside the ocean, whose tail is set in his own mouth; I am he that entered through the fence into Paradise and said to Eve all the things which my father charged me to say to her; I am he that kindled and inflamed Cain to slay his own brother, and because of me thorns and thistles sprang up on the earth; I am he who hurled the angels from above, and bound them in lusts for women, that earthborn children might come from them and I fulfill my will in them;...(THE ACTS OF THOMAS: Concerning The Serpent)

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!


THOMAS is not a legitimate christian source, along with the apocryphal books.

A decided by the Pagan Emperor Constantine, and his cohorts in the 4th century...
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills


I agree with you about Constantine, but Thomas was not approved because it contradicted too much of the apostolic writings and beliefs that the church had observed for 300 years.
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The Jews don't give us any proof. I don't see what,s the point. They deny lots of Christian dogmas though, just liek the atheists and the Moslems.

Their very existence is the proof. They are the enigma of all the races in the world. They remain a separate race and are never assimilated into others. They were cast out of their nation but remained a nation in exile. They have been regathered again as a nation. This has never happened to any other people. This is what the Bible predicted.
 Quoting: Puddleglum


Wrong, many of them have been assimilated. How many of us are actually Jews that were forced to convert or die by the Church during the Middle Ages and have been Christian for many many generations.
What you are saying about their 'race' is just the same as if (for example) the Irish had been persecuted and driven out of Ireland, then later were able to go back and have their own homeland. Would you call them a separate race? I wouldn't
Would you call the Palestinians a separate race? I don't.
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!


THOMAS is not a legitimate christian source, along with the apocryphal books.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1066502


Typical response from a typical nice little sheeple!!


sheep Baaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Typical response from a typical nice little sheeple!!

sheep Baaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1049761


So true,

They are sheep, and they know their shephard, and they hear his voice, and they follow him.
And he knows them by name, and he lays down his life for them, and he feeds them.
And noone shall take one of them from him.
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 Quoting: TXGal4Truth



another do another do another do

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It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body.


Jesus was raised in his body.


Luke 24:39 (King James Version)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


I doubt very much this is true, but if so, lets not rule out the fact that Jesus had a twin brother too!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Give me the verse on that.


Oh its not in your bible, its one of those gold nuggets intentional left out, that all the offspring of the flesh and blood Elohim were always twins!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!



Then give us the source. You will understand if I don't just take your word for it.



THE ACTS OF THOMAS
(Christian-Gnostic Apocrypha)

CONCERNING THE SERPENT


31: And when he had said this, a great serpent came out of a hole, darting his head and lashing his tail on the ground, and said with a loud voice to the apostle: "I will say before you for what reason I slew him, for to this end have you come, to put my works to shame." Yes, speak on." And the serpent: "There is a certain beautiful woman in this village over against us; and as she once passed by my place, I saw her and fell in love with her, and following her I kept watch on her.

And I found this young man kissing her, and he had intercourse with her and did other shameful things with her. Now it would be easy for me to disclose them before you, but I dare not do it. For I know that you are the twin brother of the Christ, and do ever abolish our nature. But not wishing to disquiet her, I did not kill him in that very hour, but watched for him, and as he came by in the evening I smote and slew him, the more especially since he dared to do this on the Lord's day." But the apostle questioned him, saying: "Tell me of what seed and what race you are."

And he said to him: "I am a reptile of the reptile nature, the baleful son of a baleful father; I am the son of him who hurt and smote the four standing brothers;  I am son of him who sits upon the throne and has power over the creation which is under Heaven, who takes his own from those who borrow; I am son of him who girds the sphere about; and I am kinsman of him who is outside the ocean, whose tail is set in his own mouth; I am he that entered through the fence into Paradise and said to Eve all the things which my father charged me to say to her; I am he that kindled and inflamed Cain to slay his own brother, and because of me thorns and thistles sprang up on the earth; I am he who hurled the angels from above, and bound them in lusts for women, that earthborn children might come from them and I fulfill my will in them;...(THE ACTS OF THOMAS: Concerning The Serpent)

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth

Why do you accept this a genuine? There seems to be agreement among scholars that it was not written by Thomas because it was written long after his death. Do you have a compelling reason for accepting it as genuine?
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Christ rose from the dead and we can see the Jews with our own eyes.


RUN!!! ZOMBIE CHRIST!!!



A zombie never really died. Jesus actually died but rose from the dead.

A zombie will eventually die. Jesus is alive for ever more.


A zombie is someone who died, then came back to life. Christ sounds exactly like a zombie to me.

And how could you possibly know that a zombie will eventually die?

You are wrong. Look it up before you go on making a fool of yourself. A zombie never really died.


technically correct.

like vampires, zombies are technically "undead" - neither dead nor living.



i believe the definition is actually "living dead".

both living and dead at the same time
 Quoting: moops

Zombie-The word entered the English language in 1871.the origin of zombi's comes from the Voodoo culture.the Voodoo priest created a "zombie powder"that was composed of Tetrodotoxin a poison found in the puffer fish and dissociatives such as datura when combined these powders induce death like symptoms... The person did not die, there was only an appearance of death.
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It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body.


Jesus was raised in his body.


Luke 24:39 (King James Version)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


I doubt very much this is true, but if so, lets not rule out the fact that Jesus had a twin brother too!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Give me the verse on that.


Oh its not in your bible, its one of those gold nuggets intentional left out, that all the offspring of the flesh and blood Elohim were always twins!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!



Then give us the source. You will understand if I don't just take your word for it.



THE ACTS OF THOMAS
(Christian-Gnostic Apocrypha)

CONCERNING THE SERPENT


31: And when he had said this, a great serpent came out of a hole, darting his head and lashing his tail on the ground, and said with a loud voice to the apostle: "I will say before you for what reason I slew him, for to this end have you come, to put my works to shame." Yes, speak on." And the serpent: "There is a certain beautiful woman in this village over against us; and as she once passed by my place, I saw her and fell in love with her, and following her I kept watch on her.

And I found this young man kissing her, and he had intercourse with her and did other shameful things with her. Now it would be easy for me to disclose them before you, but I dare not do it. For I know that you are the twin brother of the Christ, and do ever abolish our nature. But not wishing to disquiet her, I did not kill him in that very hour, but watched for him, and as he came by in the evening I smote and slew him, the more especially since he dared to do this on the Lord's day." But the apostle questioned him, saying: "Tell me of what seed and what race you are."

And he said to him: "I am a reptile of the reptile nature, the baleful son of a baleful father; I am the son of him who hurt and smote the four standing brothers;  I am son of him who sits upon the throne and has power over the creation which is under Heaven, who takes his own from those who borrow; I am son of him who girds the sphere about; and I am kinsman of him who is outside the ocean, whose tail is set in his own mouth; I am he that entered through the fence into Paradise and said to Eve all the things which my father charged me to say to her; I am he that kindled and inflamed Cain to slay his own brother, and because of me thorns and thistles sprang up on the earth; I am he who hurled the angels from above, and bound them in lusts for women, that earthborn children might come from them and I fulfill my will in them;...(THE ACTS OF THOMAS: Concerning The Serpent)

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Why do you accept this a genuine? There seems to be agreement among scholars that it was not written by Thomas because it was written long after his death. Do you have a compelling reason for accepting it as genuine?
 Quoting: Puddleglum



One, it fits in with all my studies of suppressed info about an ancient reptilian race,

2 it fits the pattern of all the other ancient texts when dealing with the offspring of the Elohim as always being twins!!
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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I doubt very much this is true,

You'd better make sure. The fate of your soul is at stake.


That's not true either, my soul has never been in safer hands, my hands, not your cursed religions!!

Your soul is in great peril, but you are like a child playing with fire not realizing the danger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 564884


Would you please explain why you think HT's Soul is in great peril? I don't understand what gives you the right to say such a thing.
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OMG...you still won't address it...could it be you don't have an answer? could it be that you can't claim divinity of a religion when it's bases don't add up to what you're trying to shove down ppl's throats?

IE: OP can't answer the whole question of how xtianity can be correct...condemning ev1 that doesn't believe the way they do when the original jews did not believe in hell...read back folks...it's all in the beginning pgs and OP won't touch it with a 10-ft pole...


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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!


THOMAS is not a legitimate christian source, along with the apocryphal books.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1066502


Typical response from a typical obedient little sheeple.


sheep Baaaaaa, Baaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaa
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I have checked several recognized sources on Jewish history. All of them agree with my understanding of it. The Jews as a group have a definite traceable history. It seems to me that the only way to deny this miracle is to deny the reality of Jewish history. That is what is being attempted on here. The preponderance of the evidence is on my side. Denying Jewish history flies in the face of recognized and reliable historical evidence.
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Anyone who calls Christianity a fairy tale is someone who has done very little studying into it's evidences, here is a good place to start, read The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel. It will prove to you without much of a shadow of a doubt that the Resurrection occurred (at least to those with an unbiased open mind).
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Oh, on the contrary!! It's precisely because I HAVE done a whole lot of research that I left religion at the age of 48 and have never regretted it. Perhaps you should read a few books too. Here's a good start:

The Christ conspiracy: the greatest story ever sold
By Acharya S

[link to books.google.ca]
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Typical response from a typical nice little sheeple!!

sheep Baaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


So true,

They are sheep, and they know their shephard, and they hear his voice, and they follow him.
And he knows them by name, and he lays down his life for them, and he feeds them.
And noone shall take one of them from him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052576


Sheeple, not sheep!! Sheeple have blinders on. They do not/can not think for themselves. Your "shepherd" (God) I've noticed is a "HE" Infinite Consciousness/Universal Mind/Unconditional Love does NOT have a gender. IT IS ENERGY!!!
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It certainly rules out the resurrection of the physical body.


Jesus was raised in his body.


Luke 24:39 (King James Version)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


I doubt very much this is true, but if so, lets not rule out the fact that Jesus had a twin brother too!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Give me the verse on that.


Oh its not in your bible, its one of those gold nuggets intentional left out, that all the offspring of the flesh and blood Elohim were always twins!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!



Then give us the source. You will understand if I don't just take your word for it.



THE ACTS OF THOMAS
(Christian-Gnostic Apocrypha)

CONCERNING THE SERPENT


31: And when he had said this, a great serpent came out of a hole, darting his head and lashing his tail on the ground, and said with a loud voice to the apostle: "I will say before you for what reason I slew him, for to this end have you come, to put my works to shame." Yes, speak on." And the serpent: "There is a certain beautiful woman in this village over against us; and as she once passed by my place, I saw her and fell in love with her, and following her I kept watch on her.

And I found this young man kissing her, and he had intercourse with her and did other shameful things with her. Now it would be easy for me to disclose them before you, but I dare not do it. For I know that you are the twin brother of the Christ, and do ever abolish our nature. But not wishing to disquiet her, I did not kill him in that very hour, but watched for him, and as he came by in the evening I smote and slew him, the more especially since he dared to do this on the Lord's day." But the apostle questioned him, saying: "Tell me of what seed and what race you are."

And he said to him: "I am a reptile of the reptile nature, the baleful son of a baleful father; I am the son of him who hurt and smote the four standing brothers;  I am son of him who sits upon the throne and has power over the creation which is under Heaven, who takes his own from those who borrow; I am son of him who girds the sphere about; and I am kinsman of him who is outside the ocean, whose tail is set in his own mouth; I am he that entered through the fence into Paradise and said to Eve all the things which my father charged me to say to her; I am he that kindled and inflamed Cain to slay his own brother, and because of me thorns and thistles sprang up on the earth; I am he who hurled the angels from above, and bound them in lusts for women, that earthborn children might come from them and I fulfill my will in them;...(THE ACTS OF THOMAS: Concerning The Serpent)

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Why do you accept this a genuine? There seems to be agreement among scholars that it was not written by Thomas because it was written long after his death. Do you have a compelling reason for accepting it as genuine?



One, it fits in with all my studies of suppressed info about an ancient reptilian race,

2 it fits the pattern of all the other ancient texts when dealing with the offspring of the Elohim as always being twins!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth



You believe their was an ancient reptilian race and you accept anything that goes along with your a priori assumption?
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We don't have to disprove anything.

Common logic of young people is good enough to see through the obvious bullshit factor.

All we need to do is wait for a generation or so.

There will still be a few gum brained stragglers, still living if fear.

At least the mass insanity won't be able to influence politics or harm the rest of us, like it does now.
 Quoting: DNAprototype


Well when people were dying in India, was it the atheist helping the lepers, crippled and sick like Mother Theresa?

I had life saving surgery from a hospital called, "Baptists Hospital." A man prayed for me before surgery and it was nice.
No atheists comforted me that day.

Do atheist build hospitals? Now they may but rare during medical care inception.

When aids ridden homosexuals are abandoned, who sits by their death bed and misters to them while at hospice?

Were atheist in Afghanistan helping provide medical services and dying in their mission? Nope.

When the Christian influence is gone from this planet, I promise it will be hellish.

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Religious people; Ignore em, maybe they will go away.
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 Quoting: TXGal4Truth

putin
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another do another do another do

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Go fetch some gold for your masters HT...hehe.

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Jesus will stop Christianity....
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Religious people; Ignore em, maybe they will go away.
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Or, you can always CHOOSE NOT to click on their threads. :)
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Or, you can always CHOOSE NOT to click on their threads. :)
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I feel a duty to help quicken the extinction of the mass insanity of the planet.

It's reverse evangelism.
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Or, you can always CHOOSE NOT to click on their threads. :)



I feel a duty to help quicken the extinction of the mass insanity of the planet.

It's reverse evangelism.
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Insanity comes in all shapes, colors, beliefs. This is what makes ALL of us unique.

If we were all the same, we'd be ROBOTS. IMO, that would be BORING.
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Insanity comes in all shapes, colors, beliefs. This is what makes ALL of us unique.

If we were all the same, we'd be ROBOTS. IMO, that would be BORING.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth



Insanity makes us all unique? haha! Maybe.

Unfortunately religious people are the robots you speak of, and those beliefs are harming the rest of us.
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Why do you accept this a genuine? There seems to be agreement among scholars that it was not written by Thomas because it was written long after his death. Do you have a compelling reason for accepting it as genuine?
 Quoting: Puddleglum


You mean it was RE-WRITTEN long after his death, just like so many others!! The 4 biblical gospels were accepted into the canon apparently because they exist in Greek/Aramaic. The Gospel of Thomas survives only in Coptic but it was originally composed in Greek, as evidenced in some surviving Greek fragments of its text. In other words, it was copied from the original Greek/Aramaic language, which makes it just as genuine as your beloved 4 biblical gospels.





GLP