IBEX - Looks Back at Earth and Catches a Head-On Crash Between Solar Wind and Earth's Magnetic Field

interesting. thanks!

between you and OTOC

you will keep us on alert to the soon to be CME's right?

good work man

Here's a representation of it:

[link to www.space.com]
The IBEX spacecraft has found that Energetic Neutral Atoms, or ENAs, are coming from a region just outside Earth's magnetopause where nearly stationary protons from the solar wind interact with the tenuous cloud of hydrogen atoms in Earth's exosphere.

It's all about how the Sun is interacting with the Earth nowadays...

That picture looks like the last crop circle.

Here's a representation of it:

[link to www.space.com]
The IBEX spacecraft has found that Energetic Neutral Atoms, or ENAs, are coming from a region just outside Earth's magnetopause where nearly stationary protons from the solar wind interact with the tenuous cloud of hydrogen atoms in Earth's exosphere.



Sickscent, in that image you see the ENA-formation zone. Energetic neutral atoms equal plasma, isn't that so? That's where plasma is created?

that's so neat!

thanks Sickscent

ibex

ibex

hi sickscent

and when you translate up there to down here it gets funny

least it makes me smile

ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE
AND THE CHARGE FIELD

I will show that atmospheric pressure is misinterpreted and that atmospheric weight is a myth. I will use my charge field to explain why the atmosphere in fact weighs nothing. In addition, I will show why the ionosphere exists as a separate layer, and precisely why it is above the stratosphere.

[link to www.milesmathis.com]

ibex

Ooh nice to see new data.

Any thoughts on yesterday's mail?

Ooh nice to see new data.

Any thoughts on yesterday's mail?


yeah, I mailed ya back...my head was kind of frazzled. Hope it made sense!

Ooh nice to see new data.

Any thoughts on yesterday's mail?


yeah, I mailed ya back...my head was kind of frazzled. Hope it made sense!

"I have said this before in certain threads, but I believe you can view these types of process as similar in structure, but using different components.

Yes for an Interstellar CME of that size, we would presume the iron and heavier element content is higher than that of a usual CMe we get. which should act to strengthen the magnetic field of it and the general structure, would also give it some form of gravitational and electromagnetic pull to it which acts to partially hold the cloud together, and would in certain places increase the overall density and magnetic strength, in other places decrease the overall density and magnetic strength

The idea that turned me onto that thought process, was the Magnetic Flux Tubes...why couldn't there be one, or a similar structure of one, that involves interstellar energies (supernovas or whatever) and the heliosphere? Same process (or structure), just different aspects...can't get the right words right now...

Well I see no reason why not, between large magnetic entities, I would assume it takes a considerable amount of time to connect and only a few hours to disconnect again, depending on the distance. Think of how thin the center of the "tube" would be when it first connects and how if anything disrupted the tube in any way how long it would take to break.

So I come to the conclusion of very rare short duration bursts of magnetic connectivity over vast distances, with the thinning of the magnetic tube acting to accelerate the particles way beyond the speed of light due to "pressure". Also come to the conclusion that whichever side of the flux tube is more active (a bigger producer of Interstellar waves/particles) would over power the over and flood that side, given reasonable "power" advantage to one

Even, if say, the energies (from novas or whatever) come into the 'local fluff' and become the denser, faster mor energized aspects of the fluff...the fluff would be variable throughout, and the little bits that are 'denser' would act as a better 'conductor' for the more intense energies from the explosions and consequent energies out in interstellar space.

I would agree, due to the higher concentration's of "particles" in certain areas which I would almost guarantee that the conductive nature of those areas would be increased, But I would also assume that they may act as a form of barrier and soak into them more radiation and particles, making those places even warmer and more actively conductive than the areas around them.

Effectively repowering the CME when it is far from any heat source.

That was my idea as to how certain denser columns of the fluff could have possibly penetrated the heliosphere...along with magnetic fields that are created from the energies...

I would assume that they would enter from the tail of the heliosphere (wherever that is pointing due to our movement throught the cloud and the clouds movement itself). I would again assume that as we are moving through it, it should act to increase the overall impact velocity of the "cloud" giving it more chance to "perferate" part of the heliosphere or "snap back" the tail.

Either way is possible to my mind, just like the magnetosphere on earth. But I guess we will have to wait and see, It should be easy to tell when and if particles from the fluff reach our planet, as the overall make-up of it should be vastly different.

Another thing, if it does act like our magnetosphere, then moving quickly from one strong polarity to the other or from dense to not dense "should" affect the producer of the magnetic field (heliosphere) equal and opposite reactions so to speak, you slam something into the magnetosphere, it pushes back and alters the positioning of the magnetic field lines emanating from the source.

With something as fluid as the sun and not solid like our earth (on earth you can see the effect of a hard slam on our magnetosphere as the auroras tend to drop in latitude due to the compression of the magnetosphere and where that compression will force the magnetic lines to come out from the earth.

Anyway, with the sun, think of the same effect on the magnetic field lines would effectively enlarge the visible poles of the sun and well my assumption would be that it would compress the other areas and make the magnetic fields on sunspots, etc, much more likely to violently snap as they should innately be under more tension.

Let alone the effect that an influx of foreign stella particles would have on the interplanetary magnetic field

Ooh nice to see new data.

Any thoughts on yesterday's mail?


yeah, I mailed ya back...my head was kind of frazzled. Hope it made sense!


Sent two mails?

I have recieved 1.

I know I've sent two.

Ooh nice to see new data.

Any thoughts on yesterday's mail?


yeah, I mailed ya back...my head was kind of frazzled. Hope it made sense!


Sent two mails?

I have recieved 1.

I know I've sent two.



"I have said this before in certain threads, but I believe you can view these types of process as similar in structure, but using different components.

Yes for an Interstellar CME of that size, we would presume the iron and heavier element content is higher than that of a usual CMe we get. which should act to strengthen the magnetic field of it and the general structure, would also give it some form of gravitational and electromagnetic pull to it which acts to partially hold the cloud together, and would in certain places increase the overall density and magnetic strength, in other places decrease the overall density and magnetic strength

The idea that turned me onto that thought process, was the Magnetic Flux Tubes...why couldn't there be one, or a similar structure of one, that involves interstellar energies (supernovas or whatever) and the heliosphere? Same process (or structure), just different aspects...can't get the right words right now...

Well I see no reason why not, between large magnetic entities, I would assume it takes a considerable amount of time to connect and only a few hours to disconnect again, depending on the distance. Think of how thin the center of the "tube" would be when it first connects and how if anything disrupted the tube in any way how long it would take to break.

So I come to the conclusion of very rare short duration bursts of magnetic connectivity over vast distances, with the thinning of the magnetic tube acting to accelerate the particles way beyond the speed of light due to "pressure". Also come to the conclusion that whichever side of the flux tube is more active (a bigger producer of Interstellar waves/particles) would over power the over and flood that side, given reasonable "power" advantage to one

Even, if say, the energies (from novas or whatever) come into the 'local fluff' and become the denser, faster mor energized aspects of the fluff...the fluff would be variable throughout, and the little bits that are 'denser' would act as a better 'conductor' for the more intense energies from the explosions and consequent energies out in interstellar space.

I would agree, due to the higher concentration's of "particles" in certain areas which I would almost guarantee that the conductive nature of those areas would be increased, But I would also assume that they may act as a form of barrier and soak into them more radiation and particles, making those places even warmer and more actively conductive than the areas around them.

Effectively repowering the CME when it is far from any heat source.

That was my idea as to how certain denser columns of the fluff could have possibly penetrated the heliosphere...along with magnetic fields that are created from the energies...

I would assume that they would enter from the tail of the heliosphere (wherever that is pointing due to our movement throught the cloud and the clouds movement itself). I would again assume that as we are moving through it, it should act to increase the overall impact velocity of the "cloud" giving it more chance to "perferate" part of the heliosphere or "snap back" the tail.

Either way is possible to my mind, just like the magnetosphere on earth. But I guess we will have to wait and see, It should be easy to tell when and if particles from the fluff reach our planet, as the overall make-up of it should be vastly different.

Another thing, if it does act like our magnetosphere, then moving quickly from one strong polarity to the other or from dense to not dense "should" affect the producer of the magnetic field (heliosphere) equal and opposite reactions so to speak, you slam something into the magnetosphere, it pushes back and alters the positioning of the magnetic field lines emanating from the source.

With something as fluid as the sun and not solid like our earth (on earth you can see the effect of a hard slam on our magnetosphere as the auroras tend to drop in latitude due to the compression of the magnetosphere and where that compression will force the magnetic lines to come out from the earth.

Anyway, with the sun, think of the same effect on the magnetic field lines would effectively enlarge the visible poles of the sun and well my assumption would be that it would compress the other areas and make the magnetic fields on sunspots, etc, much more likely to violently snap as they should innately be under more tension.

Let alone the effect that an influx of foreign stella particles would have on the interplanetary magnetic field



also adding a bit here while I'm at it.

I would assume also that unelss there is a sudden massive influx of stella particles that our solar wind would with no problem push away these particles and not allow them to reach very far into the inside of the heliosphere.

Ooh nice to see new data.

Any thoughts on yesterday's mail?


yeah, I mailed ya back...my head was kind of frazzled. Hope it made sense!


Sent two mails?

I have recieved 1.

I know I've sent two.



"I have said this before in certain threads, but I believe you can view these types of process as similar in structure, but using different components.

Yes for an Interstellar CME of that size, we would presume the iron and heavier element content is higher than that of a usual CMe we get. which should act to strengthen the magnetic field of it and the general structure, would also give it some form of gravitational and electromagnetic pull to it which acts to partially hold the cloud together, and would in certain places increase the overall density and magnetic strength, in other places decrease the overall density and magnetic strength

The idea that turned me onto that thought process, was the Magnetic Flux Tubes...why couldn't there be one, or a similar structure of one, that involves interstellar energies (supernovas or whatever) and the heliosphere? Same process (or structure), just different aspects...can't get the right words right now...

Well I see no reason why not, between large magnetic entities, I would assume it takes a considerable amount of time to connect and only a few hours to disconnect again, depending on the distance. Think of how thin the center of the "tube" would be when it first connects and how if anything disrupted the tube in any way how long it would take to break.

So I come to the conclusion of very rare short duration bursts of magnetic connectivity over vast distances, with the thinning of the magnetic tube acting to accelerate the particles way beyond the speed of light due to "pressure". Also come to the conclusion that whichever side of the flux tube is more active (a bigger producer of Interstellar waves/particles) would over power the over and flood that side, given reasonable "power" advantage to one

Even, if say, the energies (from novas or whatever) come into the 'local fluff' and become the denser, faster mor energized aspects of the fluff...the fluff would be variable throughout, and the little bits that are 'denser' would act as a better 'conductor' for the more intense energies from the explosions and consequent energies out in interstellar space.

I would agree, due to the higher concentration's of "particles" in certain areas which I would almost guarantee that the conductive nature of those areas would be increased, But I would also assume that they may act as a form of barrier and soak into them more radiation and particles, making those places even warmer and more actively conductive than the areas around them.

Effectively repowering the CME when it is far from any heat source.

That was my idea as to how certain denser columns of the fluff could have possibly penetrated the heliosphere...along with magnetic fields that are created from the energies...

I would assume that they would enter from the tail of the heliosphere (wherever that is pointing due to our movement throught the cloud and the clouds movement itself). I would again assume that as we are moving through it, it should act to increase the overall impact velocity of the "cloud" giving it more chance to "perferate" part of the heliosphere or "snap back" the tail.

Either way is possible to my mind, just like the magnetosphere on earth. But I guess we will have to wait and see, It should be easy to tell when and if particles from the fluff reach our planet, as the overall make-up of it should be vastly different.

Another thing, if it does act like our magnetosphere, then moving quickly from one strong polarity to the other or from dense to not dense "should" affect the producer of the magnetic field (heliosphere) equal and opposite reactions so to speak, you slam something into the magnetosphere, it pushes back and alters the positioning of the magnetic field lines emanating from the source.

With something as fluid as the sun and not solid like our earth (on earth you can see the effect of a hard slam on our magnetosphere as the auroras tend to drop in latitude due to the compression of the magnetosphere and where that compression will force the magnetic lines to come out from the earth.

Anyway, with the sun, think of the same effect on the magnetic field lines would effectively enlarge the visible poles of the sun and well my assumption would be that it would compress the other areas and make the magnetic fields on sunspots, etc, much more likely to violently snap as they should innately be under more tension.

Let alone the effect that an influx of foreign stella particles would have on the interplanetary magnetic field



also adding a bit here while I'm at it.

I would assume also that unelss there is a sudden massive influx of stella particles that our solar wind would with no problem push away these particles and not allow them to reach very far into the inside of the heliosphere.


Yeah, thats the one I want to go over...fucking beautiful images in my mind concerning this...

Yeah, thats the one I want to go over...fucking beautiful images in my mind concerning this...

Yeah, thats the one I want to go over...fucking beautiful images in my mind concerning this...


Lol, do excuse the mistakes of grammar and/or spelling etc in there.

Anyway back to ibex and the magnetosphere.

I haven't as of yet been able to find the actual data, but I also think it would take some time for them to compute it into a graphical model representation of the actual data.

I do think that the "artist's impression" of the words gives a good idea as to exactly what they mean though.

Do indeed post if you find the actual data :)

And it is very interesting.