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I know Partial Truth about 911

 
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Why does everyone who posts a "I know the truth", "the rabbit hole runs deep", "I can't keep this secret any more" thread always turn out to be crap?

1. People fancy themselves a sci-fi author.
2. People love to screw with other people.
3. People want to think of themselves as a experimental psychologist.

take your pick.
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yeh but to lie about being detained and then tell everyone you were lying. . you see how that is inconsistent.

then he posts the word 'lie' in japanese. also inconsistent.

OP is a hero if legit, and all others that are still in the milgram experiment. you saw what happens in nuremberg
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Here's what Sheldon Nidle had to say about the 911 attacks in his Sep 7 posting.

"The technology used on the World Trade Center was masked by the spectacle of very realistic 3-D airplane holograms (but without the telltale light sources). The effect, though primitive, was enough to fool those not familiar with this technology. This was coupled with a series of doctored videotapes constantly aired by the major TV networks. The use of particle-beam weaponry and preset explosive devices completed the theatrical display, and all went off with only minor glitches."

[link to www.paoweb.com]

So working with the OP's revelation, I think the holograms could have been wrapped around the cruise missiles to make them appear like large Airliners.

There is also a very good video analysis which shows how the video feed was doctored. There is one shot where the nose of the aircraft exits the building. This obvious video tampering error was edited out in later news releases.

It does seem very plausible that a combination of pre-planted explosives (probably nano-thermite), cruise missiles and video editing was used to create the whole effect.

3D holograms and particle beam weaponry does sound a little Sci-Fi but given that top levels of Govt/Mil were involved in this attack its not entirely unlikely that very high tech weaponry was used.
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So here is my current thinking of the whole Geopolitical situation which led to 911 and the after math.

Your kids may read this in a text book one day so listen up.

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Essentially the US economy is the most militarized on the planet. An economy that is based on military might needs two things to survive - fear and money. In the USA you have plenty of both.

A military economy really needs to be in constant war or the threat of war so that the machine can justify being fed tons of cash by the taxpayers. And to ensure you are in constant war you need to instill of lot fear into your entire population of those who will fund the war, ie the taxpayer.

So 911 was designed to instill maximum fear in the population so that a war could be justified. This fear spread throughout all of the USA and into all of it's allies. For good measure other nations had large scale terror strikes against their citizens. Britain had the 7/7 attacks and the Aussies had two Bali bombimgs.

From the point of view of the architects of 911, one of the greatest outcomes was that around 40,000 New Yorkers almost died on 911. These people were the lucky ones who worked in the WTC towers but managed to escape. These people would become some of the most traumatised citizens and therefore become the most fearful and strongest supporters of national revenge. (Ever wonder why Vigilante/Revenge movies are so popular?).

So once TPTB had cast this spell of fear over the entire US population, they only had to point them in the direction they wanted and provide a flimsy excuse to invade the oil rich nation of Iraq.

You have to ask why was Iraq chosen at all? If you look at 3 major middle eastern oil producers - Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran; Iraq was the most logical one to invade. Saudi Arabia was a long term allie of the US and Iran had a much stronger military than Iraq.

And once Iraq and Afghanistan was conquered you have effectively surrounded Iran anyway. It does seem like the long term plan is to conquer Iran but I dont think the evil US empire is going to last long enough for that. They may try but it will be the last thing they do, IMHO.

So the question is, why exactly is Oil so important to the US Govt? Well aside from the obvious, that is its used to power global transport there is another much more important reason.

You see ever since Kissinger did a deal with the Saudi's to sell OPECs oil only in US$, the US$ has been tied to the price of Oil. Previous to this point in time the US$ was tied to the price of Gold, which is why it became the Global reserve currency in the first place.

The effect of tying the US$ to the value of oil means that if you try and devalue the US$ then the inflationary effect is offset by the Global price of oil increasing.

So why would you try and devalue the US$? Well when you have a Military/War based economy you are really in the business of destruction and this business needs a lot of cash. So once you have exhausted the available cash from Taxpayers you need to borrow the money, an aweful lot of it as it turns out.

At some point you need to pay back these loans and if you can't extract more from your taxpayers, then your last option is to print more of your own money. (These days they call this Quantitative Easing.)

The problem that normally occurs when you print a lot of your own money is Hyper Inflation. So why is this just not happening with the US$? Well there are several reasons, they being as follows.

The US$ is pegged to Oil - thus spreading inflationary effect globally.

The US$ is pegged to value of Chinese Yuan/Renminbi, which means your imported goods don't increase in value as the US$ declines.

The value of Gold and Silver is suppressed by various mechanisms.

The US Stock Market is artificially propped up and prevented from collapsing.

So with these mechanisms in place the US Govt can continue funding their never ending wars.

So what is the point of all of this never ending war? Well as Major General Smedley Butler once wrote, "War is a Racket", and is designed to make a few people at the top of the Capitalist pyramid extremely wealthy at the expense of the taxpayer and the blood of its own soldiers and victims of war.

So that in a nutshell is why, in the eyes of TPTB, 911 had to happen.

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So here is my current thinking of the whole Geopolitical situation which led to 911 and the after math.

Your kids may read this in a text book one day so listen up.

******************************************************

Essentially the US economy is the most militarized on the planet. An economy that is based on military might needs two things to survive - fear and money. In the USA you have plenty of both.

A military economy really needs to be in constant war or the threat of war so that the machine can justify being fed tons of cash by the taxpayers. And to ensure you are in constant war you need to instill of lot fear into your entire population of those who will fund the war, ie the taxpayer.

So 911 was designed to instill maximum fear in the population so that a war could be justified. This fear spread throughout all of the USA and into all of it's allies. For good measure other nations had large scale terror strikes against their citizens. Britain had the 7/7 attacks and the Aussies had two Bali bombimgs.

From the point of view of the architects of 911, one of the greatest outcomes was that around 40,000 New Yorkers almost died on 911. These people were the lucky ones who worked in the WTC towers but managed to escape. These people would become some of the most traumatised citizens and therefore become the most fearful and strongest supporters of national revenge. (Ever wonder why Vigilante/Revenge movies are so popular?).

So once TPTB had cast this spell of fear over the entire US population, they only had to point them in the direction they wanted and provide a flimsy excuse to invade the oil rich nation of Iraq.

You have to ask why was Iraq chosen at all? If you look at 3 major middle eastern oil producers - Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran; Iraq was the most logical one to invade. Saudi Arabia was a long term allie of the US and Iran had a much stronger military than Iraq.

And once Iraq and Afghanistan was conquered you have effectively surrounded Iran anyway. It does seem like the long term plan is to conquer Iran but I dont think the evil US empire is going to last long enough for that. They may try but it will be the last thing they do, IMHO.

So the question is, why exactly is Oil so important to the US Govt? Well aside from the obvious, that is its used to power global transport there is another much more important reason.

You see ever since Kissinger did a deal with the Saudi's to sell OPECs oil only in US$, the US$ has been tied to the price of Oil. Previous to this point in time the US$ was tied to the price of Gold, which is why it became the Global reserve currency in the first place.

The effect of tying the US$ to the value of oil means that if you try and devalue the US$ then the inflationary effect is offset by the Global price of oil increasing.

So why would you try and devalue the US$? Well when you have a Military/War based economy you are really in the business of destruction and this business needs a lot of cash. So once you have exhausted the available cash from Taxpayers you need to borrow the money, an aweful lot of it as it turns out.

At some point you need to pay back these loans and if you can't extract more from your taxpayers, then your last option is to print more of your own money. (These days they call this Quantitative Easing.)

The problem that normally occurs when you print a lot of your own money is Hyper Inflation. So why is this just not happening with the US$? Well there are several reasons, they being as follows.

The US$ is pegged to Oil - thus spreading inflationary effect globally.

The US$ is pegged to value of Chinese Yuan/Renminbi, which means your imported goods don't increase in value as the US$ declines.

The value of Gold and Silver is suppressed by various mechanisms.

The US Stock Market is artificially propped up and prevented from collapsing.

So with these mechanisms in place the US Govt can continue funding their never ending wars.

So what is the point of all of this never ending war? Well as Major General Smedley Butler once wrote, "War is a Racket", and is designed to make a few people at the top of the Capitalist pyramid extremely wealthy at the expense of the taxpayer and the blood of its own soldiers and victims of war.

So that in a nutshell is why, in the eyes of TPTB, 911 had to happen.

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 Quoting: TruthSeeker 662708


cheers to my kindred down under!!




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cheers to my kindred down under!!

Z
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Thanks zacksavage, its nice to get some support occassionally. And I appreciate the beer :-)

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Where are all the people from the plane then?
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Thanks zacksavage, its nice to get some support occassionally. And I appreciate the beer :-)

dasbier
 Quoting: TruthSeeker 662708

Well,…I found your thesis beyond debate and am of like mind..

Good to see truth survives all over this globe. Therein lies hope.

Seems crystal clear to me what’s what concerning 911,… even when those shill types ,..willing to piss in the wind on this matter ,…

attempt the impossible.


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Where are all the people from the plane then?
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They are with the 5,661 some odd soldiers that were duped/bought-and-paid-for into battle for the profit of a few,...

Buried somewhere.
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Where are all the people from the plane then?


They are with the 5,661 some odd soldiers that were duped/bought-and-paid-for into battle for the profit of a few,...

Buried somewhere.
[link to projects.washingtonpost.com]



Z
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And don't forget the many witnesses to events of the day who also have had untimely deaths.
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your a brave man for saying what you know...many folks believe the same thing...what I really want to know is WHY? couldn't they just "practice" on fake bldgs etc...or a vegas casino? and 2. the phone calls looked fake to me but on a show on the history chanel tonight they said the calls could have been made...but it's still odd what some of the folks said...like the one man who talked to his mum and used his whole name...
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I remember hearing once that there was a witness who saw one of the planes land and the passengers got off...I still think it was all orchestrated for ECONOMICS...if they say for security and practice then why not evacuate the bldgs first and explain things to the american people that makes sense? we are all tired of being used as guiney pigs IT IS NOT ETHICAL OR AMERICAN...
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I still think all the bldgs were imploded...maybe for safety in case they were ever attacked again...but why not just admit to it and evacuate them first? why let innocent people die? I still remember one of the first people to die and be removed was the poor priest...he was such a wonderful caring priest...
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Where are all the people from the plane then?
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Only two of the planes designated on 9/11 had wheels off time, lift off, etc. The other two never left the ground and paperwork indicates they were delisted and at the boneyard at the time in the desert.

Flight 77 passenger list published showed it was filled with Defense Employees, Raytheon, and BSE contractor NAMES.
It left Dulles flew around and landed at Andrews directly behind the Pentagon. To a person travelling the nearby interstates they thought it crashed on top of the building.
An optical illusion timed to coordinate with an incoming missile from another angle.
See National Security Alert video on youtube for more info.

The decoy plane was used at the Pentagon because it was necessary because of it's lower height profile.
The SAMS at the roof seemed to recognise as friendly and did not fire automatically, btw.

There was no need for this same type of decoy deception at the towers as it took place 110 stories up. Certain missiles could easily be mistaken from that distance for a 757. J ASSAM for instance.
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your a brave man for saying what you know...many folks believe the same thing...what I really want to know is WHY? couldn't they just "practice" on fake bldgs etc...or a vegas casino? and 2. the phone calls looked fake to me but on a show on the history chanel tonight they said the calls could have been made...but it's still odd what some of the folks said...like the one man who talked to his mum and used his whole name...
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I am sure they said what they were supposed to say.
But, the fact remains the phone calls could not have been made. Think of your own cell reception back then.
Way less towers too to link from place to place.

DID NOT HAPPEN.
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bullfuckingshit people we need to stop the muslim infiltration now before they get us to destroy ourselves in a revolution. The muslims want all non muslims to destroy eachother for them after all.
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Thanks for sharing Kain.

Not that I think it'll do much good. Some people just don't want to believe anything other than the Al-Quida story.
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:3facepalm3:


+1000000


Funny to watch people who call others sheep break their backs bowing to believe an anonymous poster on the internet...... even to the point of making excuses for the holes in his story.

Op gets busted a few times & look at the sheep...... BAA!! BAA!! HES REAL!!! BAA!! BAA!!!

Dying to believe...... with no proof from the Op & other posters blowing holes all through the guy..... are they even skeptical of the story?

No

Fluoride has sure done a good job......... BAAAA!!


lmao



yes fluoride does a good job but we here are conspiracy theorists we start off believing conspiracys of this nature then spend our days proving it bullshit that is our nature and its plainly obvious now this crackpot did not just get out of jail he knows his military shit he may be military but his story like you said is like catholicism holy as in full of holes a more clued up military guy might catch him out first but the rest of us rational conspiracy theorists had to wait until he tripped over a bit more obviously

therefore this story is now junk

and we go back to the drawing board..

i might just add that fluoride turns rational thinkers into none rational thinkers if it werent for fluoride the whole world be on glp believing this guy until he fucked up !!
now weres that cat pushing a melon out of the water ?
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Hello my name is Kain. I have told many family members and friends what I know.

I know I'm probably going to be traced and dealt with by our fucked up government for posting this.

I was a 97B2O rank in the united states army I did basic at fort sill OK and my CIASC training at Fort Huachuca.

I had both TS and SCI Clearance

1. I know for a fact we shot a AGM-86D at the pentagon.

2. I know for a fact we shot down a passenger plane flight 93 just to make sure there were deaths involved.

3. I know for a fact we shot 2 experimental NAPALM AGM-86N's at the world trade center towers.

The rest with the explosives inside the buildings I don't have that info .. I'm just giving you the 3 things that I know.

What I've read in TS documents and Heard during the time.

the reason i'm giving up this info is I'm sick and tired of we the american people being manipulated lied to and fucked over.

WE AS THE PEOPLE NEED TO RISE UP AND TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK
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OP was deemed legit?
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I think the most interesting thing he said, not one of his 3 facts, was that the military is not happy with what is going on in the government. That piece of info should be explored further. The rest remains very reasonable speculation. But this is worth looking into I think. Anyone want to corroborate or provide evidence that this part of his statement holds water?
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This claim was actually put forth in this video.







I'm not sure if this has been posted here before, but the theory put forth is very compelling. There is footage here of a delivery vehicle, I've never seen anywhere else either.
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All three videos were taken down.

Anyone have a new loc for them?
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I´ll answer that myself:

[link to blip.tv]

What irony one of the greatest slide of hand magic tricks in human history had to be a false flag attack.
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This claim was actually put forth in this video.







I'm not sure if this has been posted here before, but the theory put forth is very compelling. There is footage here of a delivery vehicle, I've never seen anywhere else either.


All three videos were taken down.

Anyone have a new loc for them?
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Yeah, very odd that they are all taken down.

Anybody can file a Terms of Use complaint on Youtube, without substantiating their claim. This allows shills to take down videos with impunity.

Youtube can not be trusted.
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Just reposted them, get'em while there hot!
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Thanks for reposting the above videos.
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Thanks for reposting the above videos.
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anyone that takes the time to watch all of the videos of all the people/cameras/witnesses...

one conclusion.

planes hit wtcI and 2.

a grey military jet hit bldg2. Like it or not.

why do you people have to find some completely far fetched 'conspiracy within a conspiracy within BULLSHIT'?

geeez people. a remote piloted jet hit bldg 2 ..and then previously installed explosives were detonated throughout.

ISN'T THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU IDIOTS?
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97B20 is a Sergeant, E5 enlisted rank not a lieutenant. Exactly what units did you serve with? How long was your AIT? SCI is not a clearance but rather an access level. This guy is not credible at all.
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my best childhood friend. her father works for the FBI.

I remember her telling me (this was in third grade)

"my daddy was supposed to go to the pentagon for a meeting that day but it got canceled!"

and I was just like "WOW THAT'S LUCKY!"

and now I'm just like.

DERP.
damn.





GLP