HA! And are YOU, perchance, a principal in a rival group?
Hmmm?

Rima and STubblebine are for real. They mortgaged their house in order to fight CODEX. Stubblebine spoke out about 911, nothing in it for him to do so.

Read all the gossip here (Betcha this poster is in it!): [link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
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Posted May 21 by Lorae at
[link to groups.yahoo.com]
Re: Codex?

Excellent video:
[link to video.google.com]

Re: Codex?

Hey, Kathy, is that one of the groups your husband works with? I've read so much this morning, but remember seeing his last name somewhere.


Posted May 21, 2007 by Kathy at [link to groups.yahoo.com]


Re: [The-Unveiling] Re: Codex?

Yes- Ralph is working with Rima, who is amazing! We have been working within the health movement since the early seventies.

We got pulled into it by friends Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw ("Life Extension") who we met in Young Americans for Freedom back in the late 60s. A group of about 30(?) or so of us were removed from our state offices (NJ; CA; NY; PA) for being too
libertarian. We formed the Society for Individual Liberty and that grew very quickly and became the Libertarian Party a few years later. We vote libertarian but are not active in the party.

We work with any group that is fighting the FDA, but of late, we have been focusing on Rima's work, because she is consistent and making real headway. Rima has
been attacked by one of the leaders of one of the other organizations because she is creative and making progress.

The excuse to attack her is that she is married to retired Gen. Burt Stubblebine (who is working hard alongside Rima in this fight - he is one of the Gens who came out against the 911 story but the attacker ignores that and says that neither of them should be trusted because he was in the military).The attacking person is used to calling the shots within this movement and determining what gets done. If you argue with him, he goes berserk and screams obscenities at you. I have known him since the mid 80s and he hasn't changed.

We humored him for many years, but since Rima has become his target, he has gotten nastier and writes horrible lies about Rima and Burt and occasionally, us. This is beginning to hurt him because our record in this movement is very good. Rima ignores him and just works hard on the real fight- with the feds. The attacker is
actually worried about losing his "crown" to Rima and this is a movement in which there is no time for "crowns". The attacker's current plan for fighting Codex is to get petitions to Congress to repeal NAFTA- passed into law some 20 years ago! While we would like to see this happen and urge those we know to support those plans, we think that NAFTA is unlikely to be repealed- and that ALL methods of fighting Codex should be supported.

This made the attacker so angry that a few months ago, he called and raged
at me, calling me, among other things, a 'fucking cunt'. I'd rather work with Rima, thank you!

I tell you all this, not because I like to gossip (I don't, unless it's about a politician!) because you asked about us, and while the attacker is quieting down (I suspect those he works with are demanding same), he wrote viscious emails that we "went with Rima for the money" (there has been none- though it would be nice if there were!) and are purposely trying to undermine his efforts by working with Rima (also not true- we support and help anyone fighting this cause!).

So you may have seen Ralph's name on an email from him, or you may have seen it on Rense, Rumor Mill, etc., or heard him on various radio shows or seen him on a few Gary Null videos. I hope the movement can get beyond this and everyone can work together again, but at least we are working toward the same goal though from different camps.

Unfortunately, in the last week or two, several government moves have made the fight all the more difficult. Ralph is focusing on interpreting what is happening and
Rima is getting things organized online to get everyone moving on the new issues. And of course, we are also fighting the North American Union (fortunately, some states are against this also!

Ralph's site is www.vitaminlawyer.com and our group's site is
www.lifespirit.org

Don't we live in exciting times??!! –Kathy
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Posted by Kathy July 9, 2007 at
[link to groups.yahoo.com]
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Re: IN CASE THIS ONE SLIPPED UNDER THE RADAR


Thanks for the encouragement on Codex! Ron Paul's office called today-they need us to get hundreds of thousands of messages to Pelosi's office today because a Bill is coming up tomorrow (HR 2900) and we want Ron Paul's HR 2117 attached to it! I have about 5,700 emails to answer (no exaggeration) and after today's email blast on the above, there will be many more! Can any of those Angels type???? -Kathy


E-mail Pelosi at:
[link to www.house.gov]


[link to groups.yahoo.com]

Currently the bill (2900) is scheduled for 40 minutes of debate and NO
amendments, which means Ron Paul's important Health Freedom Protection Act, HR.2117 or other amendments, such as that proposed by attorney Jonathan Emord, would not be allowed to become an amendment to this bill. HR.2900 is the House companion bill to S.1082, the FDA "revitalization" bill that breezed through the Senate
last month. That Senate bill was amended to protect Dietary Supplements and
we want to make sure the House bill will also be amended to protect supplements
and natural remedies.

To do that, HR.2900 must be "brought up under a regular order" so it can be
fully debated and amended.Right now, it is scheduled to be brought up "under
special rule" which does not allow the amendments!

This Bill was brought out very suddenly-frankly, I think that they are trying
to push it through without the Paul attachment or the Emord attachment to make
sure he gets no 'credit'- as well as because both parties are owned by the
FDA! –Kathy[



Posted July 13, 2007 by Kathy at [link to groups.yahoo.com]

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Re: [The-Unveiling] Re: Ken- spiritual progress/Joan of Arc

Hundreds of eyewitness accounts? How do we know? Did they get them on the internet? Did they write best selling books? What? there were no bookstores? no newspapers? no tv? but we know from the histories "later" written that there were
hundreds of witnesses. I am not saying you are "wrong". I am saying that history, as we are fed it, may be very contrived. Someday, those time machines will no doubt force us to do a few rewrites!

I'm in the middle of this FDA battle- but when it's done, I'm gonna look for the info I had read about Joan.

The House voted through the FDA expansion without the protections for alternatives and nutrients. I admit I "lost it" a bit today. Left a message on Pelosi's machine that she is truly "Madame" Speaker since she is running a whoreHouse. Also said something about her sucking FDA dick.......

Oh well! the WhoreHouse and Senate have to 'compromise' now- between the two bills passed- so we have our work cut out. Ralph drove down to Wash DC today
and is meeting with Ron Paul's people and others - Then on to new attack plan...

Oh by the way- I got a letter today stating that surveyors for the North American HIghway are surveying over the land owned by "Mt Carmel"- the Waco people who were shot up by the govt. Since this road was planned decades ago, they must
have known they "needed" the property when they attacked. – Kathy



Posted by Lorae July 13, 2007 at [link to groups.yahoo.com]

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Re: Ken- spiritual progress/Joan of Arc

Oh WOW! Madame Pelosi! I LIKE that! And the symbolism of the freeway through Waco. IN OUR FACES!

The good side to all of this is that they are becoming quite transparent, either because they consider themselves invincible or because they have run out of time and are desperate... or both.
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