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Ron Paul: ISRAEL CREATED HAMAS - CIA FINANCED MADRASSA SCHOOLS TO RADICALIZE MUSLIMS

 
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...self-proclaimed 'gods' with a 'right to rule' trying to control something they cannot. It will be a glorious harvest of these beasts.
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Man the CIA has made some bad mistakes affecting our entire world....when will they stop?
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Ron Paul is severely undereducated in international affairs--that is, what goes on out side of Texas.

Fact is, Ron Paul is an establishment insider, but is so weak that nobody gives a hoot what he says, really. He already has many detractors in the so-called alternate media, even among those effete "protesters" who like English Tea Parties. Do those ijits know that when they go for tea in Britain they mean food, a meal? Geez. Yanks having Tea Parties and quoting Ron Paul and Glenn Beck while their country is stolen right out from under them.

Mr Paul, like Mr Beck, have poor grasps of American history, and no grasp of middle eastern history. Maybe Paul really has his Lone Star State facts down pat, though. That's good. That's one, no, two, up on Beck.

Hey, President Paul and Vice President Beck! And bring in Michelle Obama as secretary of state.
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Israel created Hamas because Israel doesn't want peace. They do everything they can to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. Zionists are very deceptive.
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Ron Paul is severely undereducated in international affairs--that is, what goes on out side of Texas.

Fact is, Ron Paul is an establishment insider, but is so weak that nobody gives a hoot what he says, really. He already has many detractors in the so-called alternate media, even among those effete "protesters" who like English Tea Parties. Do those ijits know that when they go for tea in Britain they mean food, a meal? Geez. Yanks having Tea Parties and quoting Ron Paul and Glenn Beck while their country is stolen right out from under them.

Mr Paul, like Mr Beck, have poor grasps of American history, and no grasp of middle eastern history. Maybe Paul really has his Lone Star State facts down pat, though. That's good. That's one, no, two, up on Beck.

Hey, President Paul and Vice President Beck! And bring in Michelle Obama as secretary of state.
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They allow him to say some fairly accurate things with the knowledge that what he says really doesn't matter. This is America - home of the easily duped slave.
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Israel created Hamas because Israel doesn't want peace. They do everything they can to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. Zionists are very deceptive.
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OK

Why did the Palestinian president Arafat turn down a generous peace deal?

The Palestinians don't want peace.
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Man the CIA has made some bad mistakes affecting our entire world....when will they stop?
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When the money runs out.
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lamabump
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bump
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bump
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where are the shills?
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Israel created Hamas because Israel doesn't want peace. They do everything they can to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. Zionists are very deceptive.
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would not put it past the Jews to have commited yesterdays killing of 3 people + a pregnant woman.
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Israel created Hamas because Israel doesn't want peace. They do everything they can to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. Zionists are very deceptive.

OK

Why did the Palestinian president Arafat turn down a generous peace deal?

The Palestinians don't want peace.
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well op?
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Ron Paul is severely undereducated in international affairs--that is, what goes on out side of Texas.


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or did you mean Ron Paul is severely uninfluenced and unimpressed with the Israel Lobby here in the USA?
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Israel created Hamas because Israel doesn't want peace. They do everything they can to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. Zionists are very deceptive.

OK

Why did the Palestinian president Arafat turn down a generous peace deal?

The Palestinians don't want peace.

well op?
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he and his gang was controlled by mossad, he enjoyed this kind of life, living at the expense of other countries , the money was pouring like a flood
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he and his gang was controlled by mossad, he enjoyed this kind of life, living at the expense of other countries , the money was pouring like a flood
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rolleyes

he was controlled by mossad alright-like when they had that tank barrel sticking in his face!

OP the palestians had a great chance and BLEW IT.

i know


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So what happened to you 882151 from Norway. Did you're daddy keep bopping you on the head with a rolled up newspaper when you where a toddler, and telling you that the nasty ole' Jooo's did it.

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
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19.47 you are an old pervert pedophile zionist shill , keep distracting us with your images


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""Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation," says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel's destruction.

Instead of trying to curb Gaza's Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat's Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas. Sheikh Yassin continues to inspire militants today; during the recent war in Gaza, Hamas fighters confronted Israeli troops with "Yassins," primitive rocket-propelled grenades named in honor of the cleric."

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas
[link to online.wsj.com]
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:lamabump:
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Careful posting stuff like that. The Jews will send the death squads out after him.
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19.47 you are an old pervert pedophile zionist shill , keep distracting us with your images


shill
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19.47 was actually born Moise Sheklegrubber, in Crown Heights Jew York, on October 31 1947.
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19.47 you are an old pervert pedophile zionist shill , keep distracting us with your images


shill


19.47 was actually born Moise Sheklegrubber, in Crown Heights Jew York, on October 31 1947.
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Here is a photo of 9teen47:

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Yasser Arafat was a 33 degree Freemason, look it up, it was controlled from the start
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Israel created Hamas because Israel doesn't want peace. They do everything they can to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. Zionists are very deceptive.

OK

Why did the Palestinian president Arafat turn down a generous peace deal?

The Palestinians don't want peace.

well op?
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I'd not want another peace of my land to be taken
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Israeli Roots of Hamas Are Being Exposed
[link to www.larouchepub.com]

Speaking in Jerusalem Dec. 20, U.S. Ambassador to Israel Daniel Kurtzer made the connection between the growth of the Islamic fundamentalist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and Israel's promotion of the Islamic movement as a counter to the Palestinian nationalist movement. Kurtzer's comments come very close to EIR's own presentation of the evidence of Israel's instrumental role in establishing Hamas, and its ongoing control of that organization.

Kurtzer said that the growth of the Islamic movement in the Palestinian territories in recent decades—"with the tacit support of Israel"—was "not totally unrelated" to the emergence of Hamas and Islamic Jihad and their terrorist attacks against Israel. Kurtzer explained that during the 1980s, when the Islamic movement began to flourish in the West Bank and Gaza, "Israel perceived it to be better to have people turning toward religion rather than toward a nationalistic cause [the Palestinian Liberation Organization—ed.]." It therefore did little to stop the flow of money to mosques and other religious institutions, rather than to schools.

According to the Dec. 21 Israeli daily Ha'aretz, Kurtzer made these extraordinary statements at a seminar on religion and politics sponsored by Oz V'Shalom-Netivot Shalom, a largely Anglo-American organization that promotes peace between Israelis and Palestinians. Rabbi Dr. Aharon Lichtenstein, the head of Har Etzion Yeshiva in Alon Shvut, who is an active advocate of a just regional peace, also spoke. Kurtzer said that as a result of the growth of Islam at the expense of education, there are now Palestinians who are "determined terrorists that use religious beliefs in a perverted way to appeal to the masses."
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Ron Paul is severely undereducated in international affairs--that is, what goes on out side of Texas.

Fact is, Ron Paul is an establishment insider, but is so weak that nobody gives a hoot what he says, really. He already has many detractors in the so-called alternate media, even among those effete "protesters" who like English Tea Parties. Do those ijits know that when they go for tea in Britain they mean food, a meal? Geez. Yanks having Tea Parties and quoting Ron Paul and Glenn Beck while their country is stolen right out from under them.

Mr Paul, like Mr Beck, have poor grasps of American history, and no grasp of middle eastern history. Maybe Paul really has his Lone Star State facts down pat, though. That's good. That's one, no, two, up on Beck.

Hey, President Paul and Vice President Beck! And bring in Michelle Obama as secretary of state.
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hey fuckoff mr glass
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Ron Paul is severely undereducated in international affairs--that is, what goes on out side of Texas.

Fact is, Ron Paul is an establishment insider, but is so weak that nobody gives a hoot what he says, really. He already has many detractors in the so-called alternate media, even among those effete "protesters" who like English Tea Parties. Do those ijits know that when they go for tea in Britain they mean food, a meal? Geez. Yanks having Tea Parties and quoting Ron Paul and Glenn Beck while their country is stolen right out from under them.

Mr Paul, like Mr Beck, have poor grasps of American history, and no grasp of middle eastern history. Maybe Paul really has his Lone Star State facts down pat, though. That's good. That's one, no, two, up on Beck.

Hey, President Paul and Vice President Beck! And bring in Michelle Obama as secretary of state.
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Guess what pal, that is exactly what we need here, someone who gets us and our constitution. Let the secretary of foreign affairs handle the rest. Ron Paul is interested in fixing things internally.
You don't need our dollar, figure it out for yourself, fight your own battles. sheep
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Hamas history tied to Israel
[link to www.informationclearinghouse.info]

Israel was certainly funding the group at that time. One U.S. intelligence source who asked not to be named said that not only was Hamas being funded as a "counterweight" to the PLO, Israeli aid had another purpose: "To help identify and channel towards Israeli agents Hamas members who were dangerous terrorists."

In addition, by infiltrating Hamas, Israeli informers could only listen to debates on policy and identify Hamas members who "were dangerous hard-liners," the official said.

In the end, as Hamas set up a very comprehensive counterintelligence system, many collaborators with Israel were weeded out and shot. Violent acts of terrorism became the central tenet, and Hamas, unlike the PLO, was unwilling to compromise in any way with Israel, refusing to acquiesce in its very existence.

But even then, some in Israel saw some benefits to be had in trying to continue to give Hamas support: "The thinking on the part of some of the right-wing Israeli establishment was that Hamas and the others, if they gained control, would refuse to have any part of the peace process and would torpedo any agreements put in place," said a U.S. government official who asked not to be named.

"Israel would still be the only democracy in the region for the United States to deal with," he said.

All of which disgusts some former U.S. intelligence officials.

"The thing wrong with so many Israeli operations is that they try to be too sexy," said former CIA official Vincent Cannestraro.

According to former State Department counter-terrorism official Larry Johnson, "the Israelis are their own worst enemies when it comes to fighting terrorism."

"The Israelis are like a guy who sets fire to his hair and then tries to put it out by hitting it with a hammer."

"They do more to incite and sustain terrorism than curb it," he said.
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Ron Paul is severely undereducated in international affairs--that is, what goes on out side of Texas.




or did you mean Ron Paul is severely uninfluenced and unimpressed with the Israel Lobby here in the USA?
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Nope. You're wide of the mark, old son. Paul is probably a nice guy, well-meaning, and excellent as a representative of a district. He really does show a poor grasp of world history. Not just trying to insult him--I can believe he's a good man.
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Making Enemies

How Israel helped to create Hamas
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"But there is something bitterly ironic in Israel’s support for Fatah against Hamas—and it should be a lesson to governments everywhere that meddle in other states’ affairs. In the past, Israel supported Hamas against Fatah. Indeed, in the 1970s and 80s, Israel played a not insignificant role in encouraging Hamas’s emergence in the belief that such an Islamist group might help rupture support for the mass nationalist movement of Fatah. Twenty years later, Israel has switched sides, hoping that it can encourage Fatah to see off Hamas. It wants “moderate” Palestinians to take on the “extremist” Palestinians it helped create. Like America and Britain before it—both of whom have supported and armed Islamist movements in the Middle East in attempts to undermine secular nationalist parties—Israel is learning the hard way that it is one thing to let radical Islamists off the leash but quite another thing to rein them back in again. If you make monsters, you shouldn’t be surprised if they come back to bite you.

Hamas first emerged in 1987. It was formed from various charities based in the Palestinian territories with links to the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist movement born in Egypt in the 1920s from which many of today’s radical Islamic sects, including al-Qaeda, have sprung. Israel allowed these Islamic charities to gain strength and influence in Palestinian areas, hoping that they would counter the influence of secular Palestinian resistance movements. Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of Hamas until his death by Israeli air strike in 2004, formed Hamas as the military wing of his group the Islamic Association, which was licensed by Israel 10 years earlier. During that period, when there was open conflict between Israeli forces and Palestinian nationalists, Israeli officials gave the nod to and even indirectly funded the establishment of Islamic societies in the West Bank and Gaza that might weaken the Palestine Liberation Organization. Martha Kessler, a senior analyst for the CIA, has said, “[W]e saw Israel cultivate Islam as a counterweight to Palestinian nationalism.” The very Islamic groups “cultivated” by Israel in the 1970s became Hamas in the 1980s, which went on to become Israel’s biggest nightmare in the 1990s. It remains so today."

Maybe Ron Paul knows a little more than hari thinks he does.

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