A New Thought on Planetary Formation

awesome!

H2 is actually pretty abundant in molecular form in space and all it needs is some Oxygen, water is not as scare as you've been led to believe. To tie in with your thread I have this "little" bit of information. We know that planetoids and planets form inside these clouds and that copious amounts of dust is required, add movement and sit back and watch.

(PhysOrg.com) -- A team of scientists from the Instituto Astrofísica de Canarias (IAC) and the University of Texas has succeeded in identifying one of the most complex organic molecules yet found in the material between the stars, the so-called interstellar medium. The discovery of anthracene could help resolve a decades-old astrophysical mystery concerning the production of organic molecules in space. The researchers report their findings in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.

'We have detected the presence of anthracene molecules in a dense cloud in the direction of the star Cernis 52 in Perseus, about 700 light years from the Sun,' explains Susana Iglesias Groth, the IAC researcher heading the study.

In her opinion, the next step is to investigate the presence of amino acids. Molecules like anthracene are prebiotic, so when they are subjected to ultraviolet radiation and combined with water and ammonia, they could produce amino acids and other compounds essential for the development of life

'Two years ago,' says Iglesias, 'we found proof of the existence of another organic molecule, naphthalene, in the same place, so everything indicates that we have discovered a star formation region rich in prebiotic chemistry.' Until now, anthracene had been detected only in meteorites and never in the interstellar medium. Oxidized forms of this molecule are common in living systems and are biochemically active. On our planet, oxidized anthracene is a basic component of aloe and has anti-inflammatory properties.

The new finding suggests that a good part of the key components in terrestrial prebiotic chemistry could be present in interstellar matter.

Since the 1980s, hundreds of bands found in the spectrum of the interstellar medium, known as diffuse spectroscopic bands, have been known to be associated with interstellar matter, but their origin has not been identified until now. This discovery indicates that they could result from molecular forms based on anthracene or naphthalene. Since they are widely distributed in interstellar space, they might have played a key role in the production of many of the organic molecules present at the time of the formation of the Solar System.

The results are based on observations carried out at the William Herschel Telescope at Roque de los Muchachos Observatory on La Palma in the Canary Islands and with the Hobby-Eberly Telescope in Texas in the United States.

More information: The new work appears in the paper “Anthracene cations toward the Perseus molecular complex", S. Iglesias Groth S., Manchado A., Rebolo R., González J. I., García Hernández A. (IAC); Lambert D. L. (McDonald Observatory, University of Texas), Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, in press. A preprint of the paper can be seen at [link to arxiv.org]
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The idea that comets and meteorites seeded an early Earth with the tools to make life has gained momentum from recent observations of some of these building blocks floating throughout the cosmos.

Scientists scanning a galaxy 12 million light-years away with NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope detected copious amounts of nitrogen containing polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PANHs), molecules critical to all known forms of life.

PANHs carry information for DNA and RNA and are an important component of hemoglobin, the molecule that transports oxygen through the body. They also make chlorophyll, the main molecule responsible for photosynthesis in plants, and – perhaps most importantly – they're the main ingredient in caffeine and chocolate.

"There once was a time that the assumption was that the origin of life, everything from building simple compounds up to complex life, had to happen here on Earth," said study leader Doug Hudgins of Ames Research Center. "We've discovered that some very biologically interesting molecules can be formed outside our earthly environment and delivered here."

Wherever there's a planet ...

While organic compounds have been discovered in meteorites that have landed on Earth, this is the first direct evidence for the presence of complex, important biogenic compounds in space. So far evidence suggests that PANHs are formed in the winds of dying stars and spread all over interstellar space.

"This stuff contains the building blocks of life, and now we can say they're abundant in space," Hudgins said. "And wherever there's a planet out there, we know that these things are going to be raining down on it. It did here and it does elsewhere."
[link to www.space.com]



A two-year survey of enormous interstellar dust clouds has turned up eight organic molecules in two different regions of space. One is a stellar nursery awash in light while the other is a cold, starless void.

The finding, detailed in the current issue of Astrophysical Journal, supports other recent studies suggesting molecules important for life commonly form in the gas and dust clouds that condense to form stars and planets.

Space tumbleweeds

The molecules are thought to form by two main mechanisms. In the first, simple chemical reactions add an atom to a molecule that is stuck to the surface of a dust grain afloat in space. The second method involves chemical reactions between neutral molecules and highly reactive molecules called radicals.

Once formed, the molecules are shaken loose from their dust-grain homes by rapidly moving shock waves. As the freed molecules tumble end-over-end in space, they can emit or absorb radiation at precise radio frequencies unique to each type of molecule. Astronomers identify the molecules based on these radio frequencies.

Within a dust cloud, thousands of billions of molecules undergo the same types of rotation, emitting and absorbing the same radio frequencies. The end result is a signal strong enough to be detected by instruments on Earth.

The newfound molecules bring the total number of biologically-relevant molecules found in interstellar space to 141. Scientists have previously found benzene, a ring-shaped carbon molecule important for life on Earth, around stars and intact amino acids in meteorites that have crash-landed on Earth.

Even more complex molecular creations might be possible in space, experiments suggest. In one study, scientists simulated deep space conditions in the laboratory and created small structures resembling cell walls in living organisms.

A case for extraterrestrial life

Taken together, the findings suggest that the chemical ingredients necessary for life began taking shape long before our planet was formed.

Many scientists now accept the notion that ancient meteorites and comets helped jumpstart life on our planet by bringing a significant amount of water, organic molecules and even amino acids to early Earth.
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Elusive Oxygen Molecule Finally Discovered In Interstellar Space By The Odin Satellite

Astrochemists have long argued that the Life molecules, water (H2O) and oxygen (O2), are highly abundant in the denser regions of the interstellar medium. One of the primary goals of the Odin astronomy mission was to use spectral line data from molecular oxygen (O2) and water H2O) to study processes of star formation.

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The actual observations were made during 33 days over a period from August 2002 to February 2006. After careful processing and detailed analysis of more than 300 000 spectra, the O2 line is convincingly visible, at a level of five times above the noise. The characteristics of the observed O2 profile are precisely as expected, based on the profiles of the spectral lines from other species like atomic carbon, carbon monoxide and water vapour, observed from the same cloud with ground-based telescopes and with Odin.

So now they've found that UV causes the molecules to break apart, which are provided by the clouds, and then get recombined to create water and other compounds. Interesting. Thanks sickscent.

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One of the 'sparks' I found also, was when a comet was showing water in its tail, when it should have long ago 'burned' off...

Your posts make this very interesting...

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Just glad my bookmarked information is coming in handy, eerily more often than not. People still seem to think comets are nothing more than icy snowballs when in fact they are so much more complex than that. The tails of comets are ionic, meaning charged and hence why they always point away from the sun, it's due to the solar wind. As a comet gets closer to the sun it becomes enveloped in a plasma, same thing happens to meteorites as they enter the atmosphere, the heat creates a layer of plasma which fuses our atmosphere with the elements on the meteorite. You can see this here; [link to www.niger-meteorite-recon.de]

Fusion occurs inside plasma, hence why I feel understanding the processes is vital for humanity, not only can we get virtually unlimited energy but also be able to create and change matter. In alchemy this was known as the philospher's stone.

In alchemy

The Great Work (Latin: Magnum opus) is a term which originated in medieval European alchemy which refers to the successful completion of the transmutation of base matter into gold or the creation of the philosopher's stone. It has subsequently been used as a metaphor for spiritual transformation in the Hermetic tradition. It originally had four stages:[2]

nigredo (-putrefactio), blackening(-putrefaction): corruption, dissolution, individuation, see also Suns in alchemy - Sol Niger

albedo, whitening: purification, burnout of impurity; the moon, female

citrinitas, yellowing: spiritualisation, enlightenment; the sun, male;

rubedo, reddening: unification of man with god, unification of the limited with the unlimited.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Interesting connections there too.

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A Bubble of Obsolete Presumptions
Sep 07, 2010

The Bubble Nebula illustrates how revolutionary progress in theoretical understanding changes our perceptions of the universe.

Before space telescopes and modern telescope technology, astronomers photographed rings of dim light. They called them planetary nebulae. Under the accepted presumptions about exploding stars, they concluded that the rings were spherical bubbles of hot gas. The appearance of the ring was due to edge-brightening, the increase of luminance from viewing a greater depth of gas at the edge of a sphere.

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Thread: Hubble Spies an Amazing Cosmic Spiral

The Hubble Space Telescope’s Advanced Camera for Surveys has captured a remarkable image of a spiral in space. No, not a spiral galaxy, (and not another Norway Spiral!) but the formation of an unusual pre-planetary nebula in one of the most perfect geometrical spirals ever seen. The nebula, called IRAS 23166+1655, is forming around the star LL Pegasi (also known as AFGL 3068) in the constellation of Pegasus.

The image shows what appears to be a thin spiral pattern of amazing precision winding around the star, which is itself hidden behind thick dust. Mark Morris from UCLA and an international team of astronomers say that material forming the spiral is moving outwards at a speed of about 50,000 km/hour and by combining this speed with the distance between layers, they calculate that the shells are each separated by about 800 years.

The spiral pattern suggests a regular periodic origin for the nebula’s shape, and astronomers believe that shape is forming because LL Pegasi is a binary star system. One star is losing material as it and the companion star are orbiting each other. The spacing between layers in the spiral is expected to directly reflect the orbital period of the binary, which is estimated to be also about 800 years.

The Urantia Book
Paper 57
The Origin of Urantia *
(651.1) 57:0.1 IN PRESENTING excerpts from the archives of Jerusem for the records of Urantia respecting its
antecedents and early history, we are directed to reckon time in terms of current usage — the present
leap-year calendar of 365¼ days to the year. As a rule, no attempt will be made to give exact years,
though they are of record. We will use the nearest whole numbers as the better method of presenting these
historic facts.
(651.2) 57:0.2 When referring to an event as of one or two millions of years ago, we intend to date such an
occurrence back that number of years from the early decades of the twentieth century of the Christian era.
We will thus depict these far-distant events as occurring in even periods of thousands, millions, and billions
of years.
1. The Andronover Nebula
(651.3) 57:1.1 Urantia is of origin in your sun, and your sun is one of the multifarious offspring of the
Andronover nebula, which was onetime organized as a component part of the physical power and material
matter of the local universe of Nebadon. And this great nebula itself took origin in the universal forcecharge
of space in the superuniverse of Orvonton, long, long ago.
(651.4) 57:1.2 At the time of the beginning of this recital, the Primary Master Force Organizers of Paradise had
long been in full control of the space-energies which were later organized as the Andronover nebula.
(651.5) 57:1.3 987,000,000,000 years ago associate force organizer and then acting inspector number 811,307
of the Orvonton series, traveling out from Uversa, reported to the Ancients of Days that space conditions
were favorable for the initiation of materialization phenomena in a certain sector of the, then, easterly
segment of Orvonton.
(651.6) 57:1.4 900,000,000,000 years ago, the Uversa archives testify, there was recorded a permit issued by
the Uversa Council of Equilibrium to the superuniverse government authorizing the dispatch of a force
organizer and staff to the region previously designated by inspector number 811,307. The Orvonton
authorities commissioned the original discoverer of this potential universe to execute the mandate of the
Ancients of Days calling for the organization of a new material creation. *
(652.1) 57:1.5 The recording of this permit signifies that the force organizer and staff had already departed from
Uversa on the long journey to that easterly space sector where they were subsequently to engage in those
protracted activities which would terminate in the emergence of a new physical creation in Orvonton.
(652.2) 57:1.6 875,000,000,000 years ago the enormous Andronover nebula number 876,926 was duly initiated.
Only the presence of the force organizer and the liaison staff was required to inaugurate the energy whirl
which eventually grew into this vast cyclone of space. Subsequent to the initiation of such nebular
revolutions, the living force organizers simply withdraw at right angles to the plane of the revolutionary
disk, and from that time forward, the inherent qualities of energy insure the progressive and orderly
evolution of such a new physical system.
(652.3) 57:1.7 At about this time the narrative shifts to the functioning of the personalities of the superuniverse.
In reality the story has its proper beginning at this point — at just about the time the Paradise force
organizers are preparing to withdraw, having made the space-energy conditions ready for the action of the
power directors and physical controllers of the superuniverse of Orvonton.
2. The Primary Nebular Stage
(652.4) 57:2.1 All evolutionary material creations are born of circular and gaseous nebulae, and all such primary
nebulae are circular throughout the early part of their gaseous existence. As they grow older, they usually
become spiral, and when their function of sun formation has run its course, they often terminate as
clusters of stars or as enormous suns surrounded by a varying number of planets, satellites, and smaller
groups of matter in many ways resembling your own diminutive solar system.
(652.5) 57:2.2 800,000,000,000 years ago the Andronover creation was well established as one of the
magnificent primary nebulae of Orvonton. As the astronomers of near-by universes looked out upon this
phenomenon of space, they saw very little to attract their attention. Gravity estimates made in adjacent
creations indicated that space materializations were taking place in the Andronover regions, but that was
all.
(652.6) 57:2.3 700,000,000,000 years ago the Andronover system was assuming gigantic proportions, and
additional physical controllers were dispatched to nine surrounding material creations to afford support and
supply co-operation to the power centers of this new material system which was so rapidly evolving. At this
distant date all of the material bequeathed to the subsequent creations was held within the confines of this
gigantic space wheel, which continued ever to whirl and, after reaching its maximum of diameter, to whirl
faster and faster as it continued to condense and contract.
(652.7) 57:2.4 600,000,000,000 years ago the height of the Andronover energy-mobilization period was
attained; the nebula had acquired its maximum of mass. At this time it was a gigantic circular gas cloud in
shape somewhat like a flattened spheroid. This was the early period of differential mass formation and
varying revolutionary velocity. Gravity and other influences were about to begin their work of converting
space gases into organized matter.
3. The Secondary Nebular Stage
(653.1) 57:3.1 The enormous nebula now began gradually to assume the spiral form and to become clearly
visible to the astronomers of even distant universes. This is the natural history of most nebulae; before
they begin to throw off suns and start upon the work of universe building, these secondary space nebulae
are usually observed as spiral phenomena.
(653.2) 57:3.2 The near-by star students of that faraway era, as they observed this metamorphosis of the
Andronover nebula, saw exactly what twentieth-century astronomers see when they turn their telescopes
spaceward and view the present-age spiral nebulae of adjacent outer space.
(653.3) 57:3.3 About the time of the attainment of the maximum of mass, the gravity control of the gaseous
content commenced to weaken, and there ensued the stage of gas escapement, the gas streaming forth as
two gigantic and distinct arms, which took origin on opposite sides of the mother mass. The rapid
revolutions of this enormous central core soon imparted a spiral appearance to these two projecting gas
streams. The cooling and subsequent condensation of portions of these protruding arms eventually
produced their knotted appearance. These denser portions were vast systems and subsystems of physical
matter whirling through space in the midst of the gaseous cloud of the nebula while being held securely
within the gravity grasp of the mother wheel.
(653.4) 57:3.4 But the nebula had begun to contract, and the increase in the rate of revolution further lessened
gravity control; and erelong, the outer gaseous regions began actually to escape from the immediate
embrace of the nebular nucleus, passing out into space on circuits of irregular outline, returning to the
nuclear regions to complete their circuits, and so on. But this was only a temporary stage of nebular
progression. The ever-increasing rate of whirling was soon to throw enormous suns off into space on
independent circuits.
(653.5) 57:3.5 And this is what happened in Andronover ages upon ages ago. The energy wheel grew and grew
until it attained its maximum of expansion, and then, when contraction set in, it whirled on faster and
faster until, eventually, the critical centrifugal stage was reached and the great breakup began.
(653.6) 57:3.6 500,000,000,000 years ago the first Andronover sun was born. This blazing streak broke away
from the mother gravity grasp and tore out into space on an independent adventure in the cosmos of
creation. Its orbit was determined by its path of escape. Such young suns quickly become spherical and
start out on their long and eventful careers as the stars of space. Excepting terminal nebular nucleuses, the
vast majority of Orvonton suns have had an analogous birth. These escaping suns pass through varied
periods of evolution and subsequent universe service.
(653.7) 57:3.7 400,000,000,000 years ago began the recaptive period of the Andronover nebula. Many of the
near-by and smaller suns were recaptured as a result of the gradual enlargement and further condensation
of the mother nucleus. Very soon there was inaugurated the terminal phase of nebular condensation, the
period which always precedes the final segregation of these immense space aggregations of energy and
matter.
(654.1) 57:3.8 It was scarcely a million years subsequent to this epoch that Michael of Nebadon, a Creator Son
of Paradise, selected this disintegrating nebula as the site of his adventure in universe building. Almost
immediately the architectural worlds of Salvington and the one hundred constellation headquarters groups
of planets were begun. It required almost one million years to complete these clusters of specially created
worlds. The local system headquarters planets were constructed over a period extending from that time to
about five billion years ago.
(654.2) 57:3.9 300,000,000,000 years ago the Andronover solar circuits were well established, and the nebular
system was passing through a transient period of relative physical stability. About this time the staff of
Michael arrived on Salvington, and the Uversa government of Orvonton extended physical recognition to
the local universe of Nebadon.
(654.3) 57:3.10 200,000,000,000 years ago witnessed the progression of contraction and condensation with
enormous heat generation in the Andronover central cluster, or nuclear mass. Relative space appeared
even in the regions near the central mother-sun wheel. The outer regions were becoming more stabilized
and better organized; some planets revolving around the newborn suns had cooled sufficiently to be
suitable for life implantation. The oldest inhabited planets of Nebadon date from these times.
(654.4) 57:3.11 Now the completed universe mechanism of Nebadon first begins to function, and Michael’s
creation is registered on Uversa as a universe of inhabitation and progressive mortal ascension.
(654.5) 57:3.12 100,000,000,000 years ago the nebular apex of condensation tension was reached; the point of
maximum heat tension was attained. This critical stage of gravity-heat contention sometimes lasts for
ages, but sooner or later, heat wins the struggle with gravity, and the spectacular period of sun dispersion
begins. And this marks the end of the secondary career of a space nebula.
4. Tertiary and Quartan Stages
(654.6) 57:4.1 The primary stage of a nebula is circular; the secondary, spiral; the tertiary stage is that of the
first sun dispersion, while the quartan embraces the second and last cycle of sun dispersion, with the
mother nucleus ending either as a globular cluster or as a solitary sun functioning as the center of a
terminal solar system.
(654.7) 57:4.2 75,000,000,000 years ago this nebula had attained the height of its sun-family stage. This was
the apex of the first period of sun losses. The majority of these suns have since possessed themselves of
extensive systems of planets, satellites, dark islands, comets, meteors, and cosmic dust clouds.
(654.8) 57:4.3 50,000,000,000 years ago this first period of sun dispersion was completed; the nebula was fast
finishing its tertiary cycle of existence, during which it gave origin to 876,926 sun systems.
(654.9) 57:4.4 25,000,000,000 years ago witnessed the completion of the tertiary cycle of nebular life and
brought about the organization and relative stabilization of the far-flung starry systems derived from this
parent nebula. But the process of physical contraction and increased heat production continued in the
central mass of the nebular remnant.
(655.1) 57:4.5 10,000,000,000 years ago the quartan cycle of Andronover began. The maximum of nuclearmass
temperature had been attained; the critical point of condensation was approaching. The original
mother nucleus was convulsing under the combined pressure of its own internal-heat condensation tension
and the increasing gravity-tidal pull of the surrounding swarm of liberated sun systems. The nuclear
eruptions which were to inaugurate the second nebular sun cycle were imminent. The quartan cycle of
nebular existence was about to begin.
(655.2) 57:4.6 8,000,000,000 years ago the terrific terminal eruption began. Only the outer systems are safe at
the time of such a cosmic upheaval. And this was the beginning of the end of the nebula. This final sun
disgorgement extended over a period of almost two billion years.
(655.3) 57:4.7 7,000,000,000 years ago witnessed the height of the Andronover terminal breakup. This was the
period of the birth of the larger terminal suns and the apex of the local physical disturbances.
(655.4) 57:4.8 6,000,000,000 years ago marks the end of the terminal breakup and the birth of your sun, the
fifty-sixth from the last of the Andronover second solar family. This final eruption of the nebular nucleus
gave birth to 136,702 suns, most of them solitary orbs. The total number of suns and sun systems having
origin in the Andronover nebula was 1,013,628. The number of the solar system sun is 1,013,572.
(655.5) 57:4.9 And now the great Andronover nebula is no more, but it lives on in the many suns and their
planetary families which originated in this mother cloud of space. The final nuclear remnant of this
magnificent nebula still burns with a reddish glow and continues to give forth moderate light and heat to its
remnant planetary family of one hundred and sixty-five worlds, which now revolve about this venerable
mother of two mighty generations of the monarchs of light.
5. Origin of Monmatia — The Urantia Solar System
(655.6) 57:5.1 5,000,000,000 years ago your sun was a comparatively isolated blazing orb, having gathered to
itself most of the near-by circulating matter of space, remnants of the recent upheaval which attended its
own birth.
(655.7) 57:5.2 Today, your sun has achieved relative stability, but its eleven and one-half year sunspot cycles
betray that it was a variable star in its youth. In the early days of your sun the continued contraction and
consequent gradual increase of temperature initiated tremendous convulsions on its surface. These titanic
heaves required three and one-half days to complete a cycle of varying brightness. This variable state, this
periodic pulsation, rendered your sun highly responsive to certain outside influences which were to be
shortly encountered.
(655.8) 57:5.3 Thus was the stage of local space set for the unique origin of Monmatia, that being the name of
your sun’s planetary family, the solar system to which your world belongs. Less than one per cent of the
planetary systems of Orvonton have had a similar origin.
(655.9) 57:5.4 4,500,000,000 years ago the enormous Angona system began its approach to the neighborhood
of this solitary sun. The center of this great system was a dark giant of space, solid, highly charged, and
possessing tremendous gravity pull.
(656.1) 57:5.5 As Angona more closely approached the sun, at moments of maximum expansion during solar
pulsations, streams of gaseous material were shot out into space as gigantic solar tongues. At first these
flaming gas tongues would invariably fall back into the sun, but as Angona drew nearer and nearer, the
gravity pull of the gigantic visitor became so great that these tongues of gas would break off at certain
points, the roots falling back into the sun while the outer sections would become detached to form
independent bodies of matter, solar meteorites, which immediately started to revolve about the sun in
elliptical orbits of their own.
(656.2) 57:5.6 As the Angona system drew nearer, the solar extrusions grew larger and larger; more and more
matter was drawn from the sun to become independent circulating bodies in surrounding space. This
situation developed for about five hundred thousand years until Angona made its closest approach to the
sun; whereupon the sun, in conjunction with one of its periodic internal convulsions, experienced a partial
disruption; from opposite sides and simultaneously, enormous volumes of matter were disgorged. From the
Angona side there was drawn out a vast column of solar gases, rather pointed at both ends and markedly
bulging at the center, which became permanently detached from the immediate gravity control of the sun.
(656.3) 57:5.7 This great column of solar gases which was thus separated from the sun subsequently evolved
into the twelve planets of the solar system. The repercussional ejection of gas from the opposite side of the
sun in tidal sympathy with the extrusion of this gigantic solar system ancestor, has since condensed into
the meteors and space dust of the solar system, although much, very much, of this matter was
subsequently recaptured by solar gravity as the Angona system receded into remote space.
(656.4) 57:5.8 Although Angona succeeded in drawing away the ancestral material of the solar system planets
and the enormous volume of matter now circulating about the sun as asteroids and meteors, it did not
secure for itself any of this solar matter. The visiting system did not come quite close enough to actually
steal any of the sun’s substance, but it did swing sufficiently close to draw off into the intervening space all
of the material comprising the present-day solar system.
(656.5) 57:5.9 The five inner and five outer planets soon formed in miniature from the cooling and condensing
nucleuses in the less massive and tapering ends of the gigantic gravity bulge which Angona had succeeded
in detaching from the sun, while Saturn and Jupiter were formed from the more massive and bulging
central portions. The powerful gravity pull of Jupiter and Saturn early captured most of the material stolen
from Angona as the retrograde motion of certain of their satellites bears witness.
(656.6) 57:5.10 Jupiter and Saturn, being derived from the very center of the enormous column of superheated
solar gases, contained so much highly heated sun material that they shone with a brilliant light and emitted
enormous volumes of heat; they were in reality secondary suns for a short period after their formation as
separate space bodies. These two largest of the solar system planets have remained largely gaseous to this
day, not even yet having cooled off to the point of complete condensation or solidification.
(656.7) 57:5.11 The gas-contraction nucleuses of the other ten planets soon reached the stage of solidification
and so began to draw to themselves increasing quantities of the meteoric matter circulating in near-by
space. The worlds of the solar system thus had a double origin: nucleuses of gas condensation later on
augmented by the capture of enormous quantities of meteors. Indeed they still continue to capture
meteors, but in greatly lessened numbers.
(657.1) 57:5.12 The planets do not swing around the sun in the equatorial plane of their solar mother, which
they would do if they had been thrown off by solar revolution. Rather, they travel in the plane of the
Angona solar extrusion, which existed at a considerable angle to the plane of the sun’s equator.
(657.2) 57:5.13 While Angona was unable to capture any of the solar mass, your sun did add to its
metamorphosing planetary family some of the circulating space material of the visiting system. Due to the
intense gravity field of Angona, its tributary planetary family pursued orbits of considerable distance from
the dark giant; and shortly after the extrusion of the solar system ancestral mass and while Angona was
yet in the vicinity of the sun, three of the major planets of the Angona system swung so near to the
massive solar system ancestor that its gravitational pull, augmented by that of the sun, was sufficient to
overbalance the gravity grasp of Angona and to permanently detach these three tributaries of the celestial
wanderer.
(657.3) 57:5.14 All of the solar system material derived from the sun was originally endowed with a
homogeneous direction of orbital swing, and had it not been for the intrusion of these three foreign space
bodies, all solar system material would still maintain the same direction of orbital movement. As it was, the
impact of the three Angona tributaries injected new and foreign directional forces into the emerging solar
system with the resultant appearance of retrograde motion. Retrograde motion in any astronomic system is
always accidental and always appears as a result of the collisional impact of foreign space bodies. Such
collisions may not always produce retrograde motion, but no retrograde ever appears except in a system
containing masses which have diverse origins.
6. The Solar System Stage — The Planet-Forming Era
(657.4) 57:6.1 Subsequent to the birth of the solar system a period of diminishing solar disgorgement ensued.
Decreasingly, for another five hundred thousand years, the sun continued to pour forth diminishing
volumes of matter into surrounding space. But during these early times of erratic orbits, when the
surrounding bodies made their nearest approach to the sun, the solar parent was able to recapture a large
portion of this meteoric material.
(657.5) 57:6.2 The planets nearest the sun were the first to have their revolutions slowed down by tidal friction.
Such gravitational influences also contribute to the stabilization of planetary orbits while acting as a brake
on the rate of planetary-axial revolution, causing a planet to revolve ever slower until axial revolution
ceases, leaving one hemisphere of the planet always turned toward the sun or larger body, as is illustrated
by the planet Mercury and by the moon, which always turns the same face toward Urantia.
(657.6) 57:6.3 When the tidal frictions of the moon and the earth become equalized, the earth will always turn
the same hemisphere toward the moon, and the day and month will be analogous — in length about fortyseven
days. When such stability of orbits is attained, tidal frictions will go into reverse action, no longer
driving the moon farther away from the earth but gradually drawing the satellite toward the planet. And
then, in that far-distant future when the moon approaches to within about eleven thousand miles of the
earth, the gravity action of the latter will cause the moon to disrupt, and this tidal-gravity explosion will
shatter the moon into small particles, which may assemble about the world as rings of matter resembling
those of Saturn or may be gradually drawn into the earth as meteors.
(658.1) 57:6.4 If space bodies are similar in size and density, collisions may occur. But if two space bodies of
similar density are relatively unequal in size, then, if the smaller progressively approaches the larger, the
disruption of the smaller body will occur when the radius of its orbit becomes less than two and one-half
times the radius of the larger body. Collisions among the giants of space are rare indeed, but these
gravity-tidal explosions of lesser bodies are quite common.
(658.2) 57:6.5 Shooting stars occur in swarms because they are the fragments of larger bodies of matter which
have been disrupted by tidal gravity exerted by near-by and still larger space bodies. Saturn’s rings are the
fragments of a disrupted satellite. One of the moons of Jupiter is now approaching dangerously near the
critical zone of tidal disruption and, within a few million years, will either be claimed by the planet or will
undergo gravity-tidal disruption. The fifth planet of the solar system of long, long ago traversed an
irregular orbit, periodically making closer and closer approach to Jupiter until it entered the critical zone of
gravity-tidal disruption, was swiftly fragmentized, and became the present-day cluster of asteroids.
(658.3) 57:6.6 4,000,000,000 years ago witnessed the organization of the Jupiter and Saturn systems much as
observed today except for their moons, which continued to increase in size for several billions of years. In
fact, all of the planets and satellites of the solar system are still growing as the result of continued meteoric
captures.
(658.4) 57:6.7 3,500,000,000 years ago the condensation nucleuses of the other ten planets were well formed,
and the cores of most of the moons were intact, though some of the smaller satellites later united to make
the present-day larger moons. This age may be regarded as the era of planetary assembly.
(658.5) 57:6.8 3,000,000,000 years ago the solar system was functioning much as it does today. Its members
continued to grow in size as space meteors continued to pour in upon the planets and their satellites at a
prodigious rate.
(658.6) 57:6.9 About this time your solar system was placed on the physical registry of Nebadon and given its
name, Monmatia.
(658.7) 57:6.10
2,500,000,000 years ago the planets had grown immensely in size. Urantia was a well-developed
sphere about one tenth its present mass and was still growing rapidly by meteoric accretion.
(658.8) 57:6.11 All of this tremendous activity is a normal part of the making of an evolutionary world on the
order of Urantia and constitutes the astronomic preliminaries to the setting of the stage for the beginning of
the physical evolution of such worlds of space in preparation for the life adventures of time.
7. The Meteoric Era — The Volcanic Age
The Primitive Planetary Atmosphere
(658.9) 57:7.1 Throughout these early times the space regions of the solar system were swarming with small
disruptive and condensation bodies, and in the absence of a protective combustion atmosphere such space
bodies crashed directly on the surface of Urantia. These incessant impacts kept the surface of the planet
more or less heated, and this, together with the increased action of gravity as the sphere grew larger,
began to set in operation those influences which gradually caused the heavier elements, such as iron, to
settle more and more toward the center of the planet.
(659.1) 57:7.2 2,000,000,000 years ago the earth began decidedly to gain on the moon. Always had the planet
been larger than its satellite, but there was not so much difference in size until about this time, when
enormous space bodies were captured by the earth. Urantia was then about one fifth its present size and
had become large enough to hold the primitive atmosphere which had begun to appear as a result of the
internal elemental contest between the heated interior and the cooling crust.
(659.2) 57:7.3 Definite volcanic action dates from these times. The internal heat of the earth continued to be
augmented by the deeper and deeper burial of the radioactive or heavier elements brought in from space
by the meteors. The study of these radioactive elements will reveal that Urantia is more than one billion
years old on its surface. The radium clock is your most reliable timepiece for making scientific estimates of
the age of the planet, but all such estimates are too short because the radioactive materials open to your
scrutiny are all derived from the earth’s surface and hence represent Urantia’s comparatively recent
acquirements of these elements.
(659.3) 57:7.4 1,500,000,000 years ago the earth was two thirds its present size, while the moon was nearing
its present mass. Earth’s rapid gain over the moon in size enabled it to begin the slow robbery of the little
atmosphere which its satellite originally had.
(659.4) 57:7.5 Volcanic action is now at its height. The whole earth is a veritable fiery inferno, the surface
resembling its earlier molten state before the heavier metals gravitated toward the center. This is the
volcanic age. Nevertheless, a crust, consisting chiefly of the comparatively lighter granite, is gradually
forming. The stage is being set for a planet which can someday support life.
(659.5) 57:7.6 The primitive planetary atmosphere is slowly evolving, now containing some water vapor, carbon
monoxide, carbon dioxide, and hydrogen chloride, but there is little or no free nitrogen or free oxygen. The
atmosphere of a world in the volcanic age presents a queer spectacle. In addition to the gases enumerated
it is heavily charged with numerous volcanic gases and, as the air belt matures, with the combustion
products of the heavy meteoric showers which are constantly hurtling in upon the planetary surface. Such
meteoric combustion keeps the atmospheric oxygen very nearly exhausted, and the rate of meteoric
bombardment is still tremendous.
(659.6) 57:7.7 Presently, the atmosphere became more settled and cooled sufficiently to start precipitation of
rain on the hot rocky surface of the planet. For thousands of years Urantia was enveloped in one vast and
continuous blanket of steam. And during these ages the sun never shone upon the earth’s surface.
(659.7) 57:7.8 Much of the carbon of the atmosphere was abstracted to form the carbonates of the various
metals which abounded in the superficial layers of the planet. Later on, much greater quantities of these
carbon gases were consumed by the early and prolific plant life.
(660.1) 57:7.9 Even in the later periods the continuing lava flows and the incoming meteors kept the oxygen of
the air almost completely used up. Even the early deposits of the soon appearing primitive ocean contain
no colored stones or shales. And for a long time after this ocean appeared, there was virtually no free
oxygen in the atmosphere; and it did not appear in significant quantities until it was later generated by the
seaweeds and other forms of vegetable life.
(660.2) 57:7.10 The primitive planetary atmosphere of the volcanic age affords little protection against the
collisional impacts of the meteoric swarms. Millions upon millions of meteors are able to penetrate such an
air belt to smash against the planetary crust as solid bodies. But as time passes, fewer and fewer prove
large enough to resist the ever-stronger friction shield of the oxygen-enriching atmosphere of the later
eras.
8. Crustal Stabilization
The Age of Earthquakes
The World Ocean and the First Continent
(660.3) 57:8.1 1,000,000,000 years ago is the date of the actual beginning of Urantia history. The planet had
attained approximately its present size. And about this time it was placed upon the physical registries of
Nebadon and given its name, Urantia.
(660.4) 57:8.2 The atmosphere, together with incessant moisture precipitation, facilitated the cooling of the
earth’s crust. Volcanic action early equalized internal-heat pressure and crustal contraction; and as
volcanoes rapidly decreased, earthquakes made their appearance as this epoch of crustal cooling and
adjustment progressed.
(660.5) 57:8.3 The real geologic history of Urantia begins with the cooling of the earth’s crust sufficiently to
cause the formation of the first ocean. Water-vapor condensation on the cooling surface of the earth, once
begun, continued until it was virtually complete. By the end of this period the ocean was world-wide,
covering the entire planet to an average depth of over one mile. The tides were then in play much as they
are now observed, but this primitive ocean was not salty; it was practically a fresh-water covering for the
world. In those days, most of the chlorine was combined with various metals, but there was enough, in
union with hydrogen, to render this water faintly acid.
(660.6) 57:8.4 At the opening of this faraway era, Urantia should be envisaged as a water-bound planet. Later
on, deeper and hence denser lava flows came out upon the bottom of the present Pacific Ocean, and this
part of the water-covered surface became considerably depressed. The first continental land mass emerged
from the world ocean in compensatory adjustment of the equilibrium of the gradually thickening earth’s
crust.
(660.7) 57:8.5 950,000,000 years ago Urantia presents the picture of one great continent of land and one large
body of water, the Pacific Ocean. Volcanoes are still widespread and earthquakes are both frequent and
severe. Meteors continue to bombard the earth, but they are diminishing in both frequency and size. The
atmosphere is clearing up, but the amount of carbon dioxide continues large. The earth’s crust is gradually
stabilizing.
(660.8) 57:8.6 It was at about this time that Urantia was assigned to the system of Satania for planetary
administration and was placed on the life registry of Norlatiadek. Then began the administrative recognition
of the small and insignificant sphere which was destined to be the planet whereon Michael would
subsequently engage in the stupendous undertaking of mortal bestowal, would participate in those
experiences which have since caused Urantia to become locally known as the “world of the cross.”
(661.1) 57:8.7 900,000,000 years ago witnessed the arrival on Urantia of the first Satania scouting party sent
out from Jerusem to examine the planet and make a report on its adaptation for a life-experiment station.
This commission consisted of twenty-four members, embracing Life Carriers, Lanonandek Sons,
Melchizedeks, seraphim, and other orders of celestial life having to do with the early days of planetary
organization and administration.
(661.2) 57:8.8 After making a painstaking survey of the planet, this commission returned to Jerusem and
reported favorably to the System Sovereign, recommending that Urantia be placed on the life-experiment
registry. Your world was accordingly registered on Jerusem as a decimal planet, and the Life Carriers were
notified that they would be granted permission to institute new patterns of mechanical, chemical, and
electrical mobilization at the time of their subsequent arrival with life transplantation and implantation
mandates.
(661.3) 57:8.9 In due course arrangements for the planetary occupation were completed by the mixed
commission of twelve on Jerusem and approved by the planetary commission of seventy on Edentia. These
plans, proposed by the advisory counselors of the Life Carriers, were finally accepted on Salvington. Soon
thereafter the Nebadon broadcasts carried the announcement that Urantia would become the stage
whereon the Life Carriers would execute their sixtieth Satania experiment designed to amplify and improve
the Satania type of the Nebadon life patterns.
(661.4) 57:8.10 Shortly after Urantia was first recognized on the universe broadcasts to all Nebadon, it was
accorded full universe status. Soon thereafter it was registered in the records of the minor and the major
sector headquarters planets of the superuniverse; and before this age was over, Urantia had found entry on
the planetary-life registry of Uversa.
(661.5) 57:8.11 This entire age was characterized by frequent and violent storms. The early crust of the earth
was in a state of continual flux. Surface cooling alternated with immense lava flows. Nowhere can there be
found on the surface of the world anything of this original planetary crust. It has all been mixed up too
many times with extruding lavas of deep origins and admixed with subsequent deposits of the early worldwide
ocean.
(661.6) 57:8.12 Nowhere on the surface of the world will there be found more of the modified remnants of these
ancient preocean rocks than in northeastern Canada around Hudson Bay. This extensive granite elevation is
composed of stone belonging to the preoceanic ages. These rock layers have been heated, bent, twisted,
upcrumpled, and again and again have they passed through these distorting metamorphic experiences.
(661.7) 57:8.13 Throughout the oceanic ages, enormous layers of fossil-free stratified stone were deposited on
this ancient ocean bottom. (Limestone can form as a result of chemical precipitation; not all of the older
limestone was produced by marine-life deposition.) In none of these ancient rock formations will there be
found evidences of life; they contain no fossils unless, by some chance, later deposits of the water ages
have become mixed with these older prelife layers.
(662.1) 57:8.14 The earth’s early crust was highly unstable, but mountains were not in process of formation. The
planet contracted under gravity pressure as it formed. Mountains are not the result of the collapse of the
cooling crust of a contracting sphere; they appear later on as a result of the action of rain, gravity, and
erosion.
(662.2) 57:8.15 The continental land mass of this era increased until it covered almost ten per cent of the earth’s
surface. Severe earthquakes did not begin until the continental mass of land emerged well above the water.
When they once began, they increased in frequency and severity for ages. For millions upon millions of
years earthquakes have diminished, but Urantia still has an average of fifteen daily.
(662.3) 57:8.16 850,000,000 years ago the first real epoch of the stabilization of the earth’s crust began. Most of
the heavier metals had settled down toward the center of the globe; the cooling crust had ceased to cave
in on such an extensive scale as in former ages. There was established a better balance between the land
extrusion and the heavier ocean bed. The flow of the subcrustal lava bed became well-nigh world-wide, and
this compensated and stabilized the fluctuations due to cooling, contracting, and superficial shifting.
(662.4) 57:8.17 Volcanic eruptions and earthquakes continued to diminish in frequency and severity. The
atmosphere was clearing of volcanic gases and water vapor, but the percentage of carbon dioxide was still
high.
(662.5) 57:8.18 Electric disturbances in the air and in the earth were also decreasing. The lava flows had brought
to the surface a mixture of elements which diversified the crust and better insulated the planet from certain
space-energies. And all of this did much to facilitate the control of terrestrial energy and to regulate its
flow, as is disclosed by the functioning of the magnetic poles.
(662.6) 57:8.19 800,000,000 years ago witnessed the inauguration of the first great land epoch, the age of
increased continental emergence.
(662.7) 57:8.20 Since the condensation of the earth’s hydrosphere, first into the world ocean and subsequently
into the Pacific Ocean, this latter body of water should be visualized as then covering nine tenths of the
earth’s surface. Meteors falling into the sea accumulated on the ocean bottom, and meteors are, generally
speaking, composed of heavy materials. Those falling on the land were largely oxidized, subsequently worn
down by erosion, and washed into the ocean basins. Thus the ocean bottom grew increasingly heavy, and
added to this was the weight of a body of water at some places ten miles deep.
(662.8) 57:8.21 The increasing downthrust of the Pacific Ocean operated further to upthrust the continental land
mass. Europe and Africa began to rise out of the Pacific depths along with those masses now called
Australia, North and South America, and the continent of Antarctica, while the bed of the Pacific Ocean
engaged in a further compensatory sinking adjustment. By the end of this period almost one third of the
earth’s surface consisted of land, all in one continental body.
(662.9) 57:8.22 With this increase in land elevation the first climatic differences of the planet appeared. Land
elevation, cosmic clouds, and oceanic influences are the chief factors in climatic fluctuation. The backbone
of the Asiatic land mass reached a height of almost nine miles at the time of the maximum land
emergence. Had there been much moisture in the air hovering over these highly elevated regions,
enormous ice blankets would have formed; the ice age would have arrived long before it did. It was several
hundred millions of years before so much land again appeared above water.
(663.1) 57:8.23 750,000,000 years ago the first breaks in the continental land mass began as the great northand-
south cracking, which later admitted the ocean waters and prepared the way for the westward drift of
the continents of North and South America, including Greenland. The long east-and-west cleavage
separated Africa from Europe and severed the land masses of Australia, the Pacific Islands, and Antarctica
from the Asiatic continent.
(663.2) 57:8.24 700,000,000 years ago Urantia was approaching the ripening of conditions suitable for the
support of life. The continental land drift continued; increasingly the ocean penetrated the land as long
fingerlike seas providing those shallow waters and sheltered bays which are so suitable as a habitat for
marine life.
(663.3) 57:8.25 650,000,000 years ago witnessed the further separation of the land masses and, in consequence,
a further extension of the continental seas. And these waters were rapidly attaining that degree of saltiness
which was essential to Urantia life.
(663.4) 57:8.26 It was these seas and their successors that laid down the life records of Urantia, as subsequently
discovered in well-preserved stone pages, volume upon volume, as era succeeded era and age grew upon
age. These inland seas of olden times were truly the cradle of evolution.
(663.5) 57:8.27 [Presented by a Life Carrier, a member of the original Urantia Corps and now a resident
observer.]

you guys noticing syncronicity

First Sight
Sep 08, 2010

Over a century ago, doctors invented a procedure to remove cataracts from people’s eyes. Among their first patients were people who had been blind from birth. The surgery enabled them to see for the first time as though they were newborn. But unlike newborns, they had acquired language and so were able to tell the doctors what they were experiencing.

They didn’t see “things” that were “out there”; they saw meaningless moving patches of color. The patches were not just confusing in themselves, they caused confusion with other senses as well. The newly sighted persons’ understandings of the world were disrupted. They had to make sense of it all over again.

The patients had to learn how to interpret those color patches in ways that were compatible with their other sensations. This entailed developing new concepts of “things”—groups of sensations combined into a unitary concept—that could be interrelated in a concept of “space.” For the most part, they had no concept of space.

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

No kidding.

cool

No seriously...the last few days like crazy...

Did you ever see the 2nd transformer movie where he gets that bizarre download of information and goes all ADD...THAT's how I feel...

I'm all over the place...

I love you guys...you always take me places I have never been.

Rather like being along on the Enterprise, whose continuing mission.............well, you know the rest ;)

no i never saw the movie , what`s ADD?

I never saw it either...explain aruna

Seriously? Jeez you guys...I'd post a clip if I could access youtube...but I'll have to do that later.

ADD...attention defecit disorder...it was a joke...

Because it's not really like ADD...it's more like hyper sensory...information streaming...I don't know how else to put that...

what if that 'cloud' the solar system is about to enter is just a huge cloud of water?

are passages through clouds like this what brings vast quantities of water to the earth?

got it

knowledge is instant, get used to it

...and who would of thought that you really would have to get used to it...?

no...its not that kind of cloud...

Not for me yet...instant...but a hell of alot faster than it used to be for sure! And more clear...easier to identify the relevance of it...which is why when you mentioned the synchronicity...I find that taking the second step...action...on the first...recognition of/in the event...it leads to more in a faster and clearer sequence.

You understand that I'm sure. It's just nice to be focused with more clarity.

yep...thats the process of getting used to it...

Damn...I'm a retard...sorry Sick...

It's just that the whole cloud theory triggered that for me...picking up like a snowball and forming a planet...



Did not mean to go off topic.

dunno, in my experience of cultures, they either want you to dress a a holy man, make you their shaman, lock you up , hate you or pretend you don`t exist as you demonstrate it

feed back

the sycronisities are the result of your imput, scales up infinitly therefore nothing is exempt from sycronised feed back

nature talking/walking with you