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OH NO! -- Judge Rules New York Can Begin Collecting Cigarette Taxes On Indian Lands | |
| DreamTheater Offer Upgrade  User ID: 978506  United States09/14/2010 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| SilverPatriot User ID: 938262 United States09/15/2010 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New York State is cash strapped and looking for the golden goose to solve the economic woes a liberal government finds itself lost spending spree, Governor Patterson is being held captive by the greed of the unions, and may have found his sticky fingers in a hornet’s nest and all will be stung. |
| LennyDaRetard User ID: 1065346 United States09/15/2010 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No matter what any state might have to say about it, when this goes to a fed. appeals court, the Native Americans will win... they always do in cases like these. Gambling, vice/sin taxes, self governance, etc... PS - The doom, metaphysical/phenomenological/quantum singularity, DNA upgrade, glandular overdrive, NWO takeover, final Illuminati card, WWIII, geomagnetic reversal, geologic event, Planet X, comet, asteriod, interstellar cloud, solar event, zombiepocalypse, mutant-bunnies-attack, megavirus, final phase of Project What-N-have-U, end-o-somebody's clalendar, start-o-somebody's calendar, prophecy of the phophet [insert prophet here], opening of the gate, aliens landing, aliens landing again, return of The Grand Poobah(s), that one thingamajigger that one crazy hippy chick once said and that other inevitabley inexplicable thingy we're all waiting for... is coming! PPS - Tinfoil hat or a blindfold... pick your poison. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1098522  Canada09/15/2010 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No matter what any state might have to say about it, when this goes to a fed. appeals court, the Native Americans will win... they always do in cases like these. Quoting: LennyDaRetardGambling, vice/sin taxes, self governance, etc... And so it should be. Fucking land thieves to take away the land and stick us onto small little patches of waste land. |
| SilverPatriot User ID: 938262 United States09/15/2010 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No matter what any state might have to say about it, when this goes to a fed. appeals court, the Native Americans will win... they always do in cases like these. Quoting: LennyDaRetardGambling, vice/sin taxes, self governance, etc... I am not so sure remember the day of the Fort Hood shootings and obama had his nose up the Native Americans backsides and finally made mention of the slayings at Ft. Hood. If obama kisses the backside of any group, you can be sure that he will betray you and sure enough, obama followed up with the Pact Act. |
| SilverPatriot User ID: 938262 United States09/15/2010 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No matter what any state might have to say about it, when this goes to a fed. appeals court, the Native Americans will win... they always do in cases like these. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1098522Gambling, vice/sin taxes, self governance, etc... And so it should be. Fucking land thieves to take away the land and stick us onto small little patches of waste land. Waste lands for sure especially in Canada I was stationed at Cold Lake in Canada where there was a large Indian Reservation and as bad as Americans treat Native Americans Canada treats them worse. |
| Calare User ID: 1093567 United States09/15/2010 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What really sickens me, is NY isn't even TRYING to come up with a decent excuse. If "We need the money" is a valid legal excuse, I can see muggings going through the roof... If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill I will choose a path that's clear I will choose freewill Neil Peart |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1099205  Switzerland09/15/2010 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The local tribes have made threats of violence should this have been passed. Well now it has... Quoting: DreamTheater[link to morichesdaily.com] A New York State appeals court lifted Tuesday the temporary order that prevented the state from collecting taxes on cigarettes sold to non-Indian customers. I've got a brillant idea... make all customers honorary members of the tribe!  Screw NY taxes!!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1099001 United States09/15/2010 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Pea Vine User ID: 736350 United States09/15/2010 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No matter what any state might have to say about it, when this goes to a fed. appeals court, the Native Americans will win... they always do in cases like these. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1098522Gambling, vice/sin taxes, self governance, etc... And so it should be. Fucking land thieves to take away the land and stick us onto small little patches of waste land. + a million! This is BULLSHIT! It's a damn "Put'em in a corner and keep crowding them". I say do whatever is neccassary. F##k 'em!   "I'm still here, you bastards!"...Papillion |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 985286 United States09/15/2010 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The local tribes have made threats of violence should this have been passed. Well now it has... Quoting: DreamTheater[link to morichesdaily.com] A New York State appeals court lifted Tuesday the temporary order that prevented the state from collecting taxes on cigarettes sold to non-Indian customers. But the dominant tribe in the market remained temporarily immune from the tax. Earlier this month, a state appellate judge restored the order that kept the state from collecting the $4.35 per-pack tax. The court’s five-judge panel later ruled the state properly approved regulations for the tax. The Seneca and Cayuga nations say the fee violates their sovereign rights and will damage their economies. However, Governor David Paterson says the state needs the $200 million the tax is expected to generate. This sets a precedence that now not only can the State of New York impose tax collection for its own coffers from the Soverign Indian lands but also from every State in the Union as well as every nation on Earth.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 769657 United States09/15/2010 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 985286 United States09/15/2010 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What really sickens me, is NY isn't even TRYING to come up with a decent excuse. If "We need the money" is a valid legal excuse, I can see muggings going through the roof... Quoting: Calareand armed robbery, kidnapping, child sex prostitution and trafficing, drug growing and selling, murder by the State for hire., State sexual rape for money.. yea, any excuse because they need the $$$ because everything has to be sacrficed to their god of Mammon - Money. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 985286 United States09/15/2010 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it'll get thrown out. A local judge can't rule that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 769657true enough. It's a federal issue because the treaties with the Indian Tribes are between the Federal Government and those Indian Tribes. Thsi thing has to go clear up to the SCOTUS and then evne to every single Tribal Government... A treaty is a pact, one that either party can dissolve if they see the other party breaking it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1099130 United States09/15/2010 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Seneca County where this is taking place. Most of the local sheep are such idiots about this issue. They are almost all against the Indians and think they should pay. One of the saddest/funniest statements was from a family member when he was bitching about the Indians trying to take our land. He had no idea how ironic that was. |
| Pea Vine User ID: 736350 United States09/15/2010 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^^THIS PEOPLE^^^^^^ Look up the word SOVERIGN (sp). This is BULL. It is just ANOTHER broken PROMISE. Sooner or later this crap will bring ugly results, mark my words.  "I'm still here, you bastards!"...Papillion |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1099130 United States09/15/2010 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soverign Indian lands Quoting: Pea Vine^^^^THIS PEOPLE^^^^^^ Look up the word SOVERIGN (sp). This is BULL. It is just ANOTHER broken PROMISE. Sooner or later this crap will bring ugly results, mark my words. The Indians are the only ones I've seen who have the balls to stand up to these criminals. |
| Little_Big_Chief User ID: 1099220 United States09/15/2010 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The local tribes have made threats of violence should this have been passed. Well now it has... Quoting: DreamTheater[link to morichesdaily.com] A New York State appeals court lifted Tuesday the temporary order that prevented the state from collecting taxes on cigarettes sold to non-Indian customers. But the dominant tribe in the market remained temporarily immune from the tax. Earlier this month, a state appellate judge restored the order that kept the state from collecting the $4.35 per-pack tax. The court’s five-judge panel later ruled the state properly approved regulations for the tax. The Seneca and Cayuga nations say the fee violates their sovereign rights and will damage their economies. However, Governor David Paterson says the state needs the $200 million the tax is expected to generate. man thats messed up, im moving to NY near a indian reservation with my cousin soon and he gets his cigg's real cheap from a Indian smoke shop |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1099176 United States09/15/2010 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1087014 United States09/15/2010 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yea, let the tax man come on the Mohawk rez and try and collect - I was there in the early 90's when something similar was taking place and they shot down a state police helicopter. The natives play for keeps in NY if you mess wth their livelihood and they don't care. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1066301 United States09/15/2010 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Seneca County where this is taking place. Most of the local sheep are such idiots about this issue. They are almost all against the Indians and think they should pay. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099130One of the saddest/funniest statements was from a family member when he was bitching about the Indians trying to take our land. He had no idea how ironic that was. Get ready for Tire burning and no route west on 86..didn't they put something on the train tracks a couple of months ago and a train came to a sudden stop..I'm from the area too..This is not right to tax them a treaty is a treaty.. |
| Pea Vine User ID: 734077 United States09/15/2010 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soverign Indian lands Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099130^^^^THIS PEOPLE^^^^^^ Look up the word SOVERIGN (sp). This is BULL. It is just ANOTHER broken PROMISE. Sooner or later this crap will bring ugly results, mark my words. The Indians are the only ones I've seen who have the balls to stand up to these criminals. You just don't fuck with those that don't have anything much to lose. This is beyond pathetic. The Feds have WAY crossed the line. GOD, I wish the REST of the U.S. would get their head and their ass wired TOGETHER! It's comin' folks. If shit don't change, we're gonna be two-blocked. Not just with this issue, but all-together. They won't let us live and be well. Indian OR White. Just look at how they got us dodgin' and duckin'! The Feds are Creating a WHOLE NEW CRIMINAL CLASS!Earn money LEGALLY, then CHANGE the rules and STEAL the money right back! "I'm still here, you bastards!"...Papillion |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 900066 United States09/15/2010 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 900066 United States09/15/2010 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1071666 United States09/15/2010 03:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The local tribes have made threats of violence should this have been passed. Well now it has... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099205[link to morichesdaily.com] A New York State appeals court lifted Tuesday the temporary order that prevented the state from collecting taxes on cigarettes sold to non-Indian customers. I've got a brillant idea... make all customers honorary members of the tribe! Screw NY taxes!!!!! perfect, email them and tell them i like it! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1071666 United States09/15/2010 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The local tribes have made threats of violence should this have been passed. Well now it has... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1071666[link to morichesdaily.com] A New York State appeals court lifted Tuesday the temporary order that prevented the state from collecting taxes on cigarettes sold to non-Indian customers. I've got a brillant idea... make all customers honorary members of the tribe! Screw NY taxes!!!!! perfect, email them and tell them i like it! in fact, if every non-reservation American was adopted (legally) by an Indian, then would anyone have to pay taxes? ANY taxes? this should be explored! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1099271 United States09/15/2010 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
