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Everything begins with a leap of faith

 
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Everything begins with a leap of faith
In my view it isn't worth anymore. Most people have already made their decision for what they wish to experience in the following years. Regardless of all the 2012 stuff, we are in a crossroads of sorts between spirituality and materialism.

When people come inside spiritual threads with this kind of rude opinionated bullshit, they are either looking to confirm their views (often materialistic, hence non-spiritual), or they are secretly curious about the material they've just read and thus looking for someone to convince them, that is, someone that can take a leap of faith in their place. Or maybe they just want to pollute / derail the thread.

Everything begins with a leap of faith, even scientific theories. In this vein, religion is an important step, because it's the first step. It was a long time ago when I used to "believe" in spiritual stuff, but I didn't have the courage to live by it. Not coincidentally, I was also more inclined to New Age / lightsider material. Today, spiritual knowledge is just part of my life -- I've been experiencing the spiritual and applying it on my life, daily.

Experience has nothing to do with belief , just as theory has nothing to do with practice. It amuses me to see how people just assume that the matters being discussed here are about "belief". They instantly assume that someone somewhere is obligating them to believe in this stuff. This couldn't be further from the truth. If you have to resort to belief, then you've already been defeated in your spiritual quest , which is really a quest to find out WHO YOU REALLY ARE.

What you really are has nothing to do with "matter." If you really take your time to study well-established concepts such as "time", "space", "matter", etc you will find out that they are all very philosophical , even nearing the edge of being spiritual concepts. For example, there is no such thing as atoms or particles -- they are abstract models with incredible coherence that provides us with accurate measurements, but they are still models.

The most logical answer is that your body is made of absolutely nothing, which then leads us to question if we really are ONLY our bodies.

There is a lot of people with knowledge about the spiritual. The problem with spiritual knowledge is that you cannot prove it for other people when they simply haven't had spiritual experiences themselves. A spiritual science might be possible one day, but until then several human flaws have to be resolved. "Science" in the truest sense of the word is not practiced today. What we have today is a scientific establishment based on greed. There are lot of followers of scientism , science as a religion, out there. In general, they are no more educated than religious followers.

I know a person who is one of them, and even though she graduated from philosophy, he has had to substitute ignorance of spiritual matters with faith in the scientific establishment. All the same old ideas that we are just clusters of atoms randomly put together and we are completely insignificant pieces in the universe, are there. Consciousness? Pfft, there is no such thing as consciousness. Well, we need to pay attention though, because when someone starts talking about their paradigm of hopelessness that involves nihilism, materialism, reductionism, determinism, etc, they won't stop for anything until they have contaminated your mind with all of their contradictory bullshit, which is after all just another BELIEF SYSTEM.
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Re: Everything begins with a leap of faith
go for it. jump from the brooklyn bridge, ill take a picture of you
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Re: Everything begins with a leap of faith
Everyone is born on the edge of the abyss. What is left for us is to decide wether we will take that leap of faith or we will wait until we lose balance and slip.
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Re: Everything begins with a leap of faith
I'm in free fall, its kind of nice, and even in the end i'll never hit the bottom.
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Re: Everything begins with a leap of faith
Its TIME to play.."PICK YOUR FAITH!!!"

Here are the three major choices...

The MUSLIMS say....

ALLAH is the TRUE way..and if you DONT bow to him we have been told in our holy book to kill all infidels who wont submit..OURS is the ONLY true way FOLLOW US OR DIE AND BURN FOREVER...

The CATHOLICS say....

OURS is the only TRUE religion and if you dont bow to the POPE and MARY and follow US you will BURN forver and if we could change the laws back to what they were in the middle ages we would be TORTURING all who dont BOW to the POPE like we did for centuries. OURS is the ONLY true way FOLLOW us or BURN FOREVER>...


The christians say...

OUR is the only TRUE religion...and if you DONT bow to GOD you will BURN FOREVER AND EVER..and if you DONT submit..we shall TORTURE you with ENDLESS DEBATES and ARGUMENTS about RAPTURES and whether to follow the LAW or not and we will KEEP posting FAILED RAPTURE DATES till you SUBMIT...

Now..which one is right??

They all hate eachother..they all say THEIR particular god will torture you forever if you dont submit..and they ALL use TORTURE to FORCE others into their way..either physical or mental(Trib tards)..torture is torture.

Which one is right???
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Re: Everything begins with a leap of faith
Everyone is born on the edge of the abyss. What is left for us is to decide wether we will take that leap of faith or we will wait until we lose balance and slip.
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