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Male egos, and strong, independant women...
I read a very nice post by a male on here a bit ago, talking about Male Egos, and how women today don't 'stroke' it enough, therfore, men don't ask women out.

I felt the need to add a side bar to his thread, because while he may be speaking for some men, there are others that need to be adressed.

I'm talking about the men that get intimidated/jealous of a strong, independant woman.
I've had the problem with pretty much every man I've ever been with....no matter how much I 'stroke their ego" to make them feel good.
They just can't handle a woman that makes more money than they do...or is blessed with a gift that generates income without having to slave away at a job you hate.
My independance is threatning to them....because I do not 'need' them.

Personally, this bums me out to no end.......because when I'm in love with someone, I want to 'shine' for them...so they can be proud to be my partner...be able to tell their friends 'Yeah, that's MY GIRL!"
I know that personally, I'd much rather want to be in someone's life that 'wanted' me there, not because they 'needed" me to be there.

Are there no men out there that can appreciate a smart, talented , attractive, independant woman out there these days?

Why should we have to "pretend' that we 'need' you?
Why isn't it good enough that we love you , and want you in our lives?
Why do you get all threatened when we 'succeed', and are shining for you, so you will be proud to have us on your arm?!
Do you really want some woman that depends on you for EVERYTHING?
Emotional fulfilment, financial support, emotional support?
Seems to me it would get old pretty quick having to be EVERYTHING to another person, have them lean on you for it all.

Because of these things, is why I really don't date anymore.
I'm sick of having to fight to be me, to be 'allowed' to create...
Sick of men that get pissed off and leave because I made more money in 4 days, than they did in a month...
Sick of men that get all upset, because I don't need them in my life, I just 'want' them to be in it...

A woman's life does not have to revolve around a man, and I'm sick and tired of having to tip-toe around their so easily bruised egos.
Partnerships should be an equal exchange of love,respect, and support for one another...not some competition, or some deadly game of having to constantly prop up your partner's ego, or it all comes crashing down.
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I'm a man. I would have no problems with my wife being more successful, more intelligent, and making more money than I. However, the sad fact is, many women who end up in those situations seem to think something is wrong, and end up leaving the guy. It's all about appearances and women, even smart ones, fall for the hype.

On the other hand, women should be more than willing to attract the attention of the guy, talk to them, let them know what they feel -- instead of playing "hard to get." Men won't understand the mixed signals and go elsewhere.
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I'm a man. I would have no problems with my wife being more successful, more intelligent, and making more money than I. However, the sad fact is, many women who end up in those situations seem to think something is wrong, and end up leaving the guy. It's all about appearances and women, even smart ones, fall for the hype.

On the other hand, women should be more than willing to attract the attention of the guy, talk to them, let them know what they feel -- instead of playing "hard to get." Men won't understand the mixed signals and go elsewhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101259


I think you are probably a minority when it comes to men...LOL

I've never felt like my life was better, or that I didn't deserve what I earned, and I've never held it over anyone's head either.
Because the money isn't important to me, it's a side effect of doing something I LOVE.

I've never played 'hard to get'....but I have been told numerous times that I am very 'intimidating' , because of my skills, and the fact that I am an attractive, intelligent woman.
I've never understood it...

My problems usually occur later in the relationship....when they start trying to fill my life up, solving their problems, so I'm too busy to create.
They feel like their lives/problems should over ride my need to Create.

I truly had the love of my life leave me, because he was intimidated by my skills, ability to make $.....it broke my heart that he would let that come between us....because I was shining for him.
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I'm a man. I would have no problems with my wife being more successful, more intelligent, and making more money than I. However, the sad fact is, many women who end up in those situations seem to think something is wrong, and end up leaving the guy. It's all about appearances and women, even smart ones, fall for the hype.

On the other hand, women should be more than willing to attract the attention of the guy, talk to them, let them know what they feel -- instead of playing "hard to get." Men won't understand the mixed signals and go elsewhere.


I think you are probably a minority when it comes to men...LOL

I've never felt like my life was better, or that I didn't deserve what I earned, and I've never held it over anyone's head either.
Because the money isn't important to me, it's a side effect of doing something I LOVE.

I've never played 'hard to get'....but I have been told numerous times that I am very 'intimidating' , because of my skills, and the fact that I am an attractive, intelligent woman.
I've never understood it...

My problems usually occur later in the relationship....when they start trying to fill my life up, solving their problems, so I'm too busy to create.
They feel like their lives/problems should over ride my need to Create.

I truly had the love of my life leave me, because he was intimidated by my skills, ability to make $.....it broke my heart that he would let that come between us....because I was shining for him.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


Often women do not know their mixed signals are just that, mixed. They don't come straight out and tell men things. That is something men would like, really.

As for intimidation, no, it wouldn't intimidate me. I just wish I had someone, but I don't. I am intelligent, but that is all I have to offer. Looks are not great. Jobs, I've had bad luck there. Etc. Being alone all the time makes it hard to care about jobs, though...
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Re: Male egos, and strong, independant women...
I read a very nice post by a male on here a bit ago, talking about Male Egos, and how women today don't 'stroke' it enough, therfore, men don't ask women out.

I felt the need to add a side bar to his thread, because while he may be speaking for some men, there are others that need to be adressed.

I'm talking about the men that get intimidated/jealous of a strong, independant woman.
I've had the problem with pretty much every man I've ever been with....no matter how much I 'stroke their ego" to make them feel good.
They just can't handle a woman that makes more money than they do...or is blessed with a gift that generates income without having to slave away at a job you hate.
My independance is threatning to them....because I do not 'need' them.

Personally, this bums me out to no end.......because when I'm in love with someone, I want to 'shine' for them...so they can be proud to be my partner...be able to tell their friends 'Yeah, that's MY GIRL!"
I know that personally, I'd much rather want to be in someone's life that 'wanted' me there, not because they 'needed" me to be there.

Are there no men out there that can appreciate a smart, talented , attractive, independant woman out there these days?

Why should we have to "pretend' that we 'need' you?
Why isn't it good enough that we love you , and want you in our lives?
Why do you get all threatened when we 'succeed', and are shining for you, so you will be proud to have us on your arm?!
Do you really want some woman that depends on you for EVERYTHING?
Emotional fulfilment, financial support, emotional support?
Seems to me it would get old pretty quick having to be EVERYTHING to another person, have them lean on you for it all.

Because of these things, is why I really don't date anymore.
I'm sick of having to fight to be me, to be 'allowed' to create...
Sick of men that get pissed off and leave because I made more money in 4 days, than they did in a month...
Sick of men that get all upset, because I don't need them in my life, I just 'want' them to be in it...

A woman's life does not have to revolve around a man, and I'm sick and tired of having to tip-toe around their so easily bruised egos.
Partnerships should be an equal exchange of love,respect, and support for one another...not some competition, or some deadly game of having to constantly prop up your partner's ego, or it all comes crashing down.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


wanna go out sometime? :) Looking for a woman just like you. I am in law school. 6 foot 3 dark hair and eyes. You are beautiful to me, just by hearing your words. I like it when a woman makes more than me. It's a major turn on. it means you have your shit together
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Money is all that is important.
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You people are bot scabs on the scrodum of america.

By the way.
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You people are bot scabs on the scrodum of america.

By the way.
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because we want to better ourselves? Who are you to judge? You are probably sleeping in your moms basement holding out for the apocalypse. lol

Live life while you have it. Apocalypse or no apocalypse life is short. If not, you will have a sad existence.
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LOL...I'm one hell of a 'talker'....so I know I'm not sending mixed signals.
I learned years ago, because of the wrapper Creator stuffed me into...I have to be crystal clear with men.
If I'm not interested in them sexually, it's difficult for me to even just be 'nice', or 'friendly', because they mistake it for me being attracted to them.
It always comes down to that uncomfortable conversation " I like you as a friend, but I'm not interested in dating you"
When I am attracted to someone...me being an Aries girl, I normally am the 1 to ask them out for the first time.
So, no mixed signals..I make the first move.
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Re: Male egos, and strong, independant women...
I read a very nice post by a male on here a bit ago, talking about Male Egos, and how women today don't 'stroke' it enough, therfore, men don't ask women out.

I felt the need to add a side bar to his thread, because while he may be speaking for some men, there are others that need to be adressed.

I'm talking about the men that get intimidated/jealous of a strong, independant woman.
I've had the problem with pretty much every man I've ever been with....no matter how much I 'stroke their ego" to make them feel good.
They just can't handle a woman that makes more money than they do...or is blessed with a gift that generates income without having to slave away at a job you hate.
My independance is threatning to them....because I do not 'need' them.

Personally, this bums me out to no end.......because when I'm in love with someone, I want to 'shine' for them...so they can be proud to be my partner...be able to tell their friends 'Yeah, that's MY GIRL!"
I know that personally, I'd much rather want to be in someone's life that 'wanted' me there, not because they 'needed" me to be there.

Are there no men out there that can appreciate a smart, talented , attractive, independant woman out there these days?

Why should we have to "pretend' that we 'need' you?
Why isn't it good enough that we love you , and want you in our lives?
Why do you get all threatened when we 'succeed', and are shining for you, so you will be proud to have us on your arm?!
Do you really want some woman that depends on you for EVERYTHING?
Emotional fulfilment, financial support, emotional support?
Seems to me it would get old pretty quick having to be EVERYTHING to another person, have them lean on you for it all.

Because of these things, is why I really don't date anymore.
I'm sick of having to fight to be me, to be 'allowed' to create...
Sick of men that get pissed off and leave because I made more money in 4 days, than they did in a month...
Sick of men that get all upset, because I don't need them in my life, I just 'want' them to be in it...

A woman's life does not have to revolve around a man, and I'm sick and tired of having to tip-toe around their so easily bruised egos.
Partnerships should be an equal exchange of love,respect, and support for one another...not some competition, or some deadly game of having to constantly prop up your partner's ego, or it all comes crashing down.


wanna go out sometime? :) Looking for a woman just like you. I am in law school. 6 foot 3 dark hair and eyes. You are beautiful to me, just by hearing your words. I like it when a woman makes more than me. It's a major turn on. it means you have your shit together
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1097746


LOL.....Where have ya been all these years?!!!!
I've been searching for someone like you!
You guys are like trying to find a living Dodo Bird...:P

LOL..I doubt I'd make more money than an attorney...but sometimes I do pull down $50 an hour plus, depending on the job.
Normally I charge big time when I have have to go up a couple of stories on a building to work...I hate heights, but will do it if I'm paid enough.

So, what part of the Country are you in?!
Seriously, it would be nice to meet someone that isn't intimidated by me...that would appreciate me shining for them...:)
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Money is all that is important.
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It shouldn't be that way though...:(
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Money is all that is important.


It shouldn't be that way though...:(
 Quoting: Woodsprite


The problem is -- women will say that; most know it isn't good to base it all on money. However, the unconscious element seems to affect many (not all) who say it doesn't. It's sad.
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Re: Male egos, and strong, independant women...
I read a very nice post by a male on here a bit ago, talking about Male Egos, and how women today don't 'stroke' it enough, therfore, men don't ask women out.

I felt the need to add a side bar to his thread, because while he may be speaking for some men, there are others that need to be adressed.

I'm talking about the men that get intimidated/jealous of a strong, independant woman.
I've had the problem with pretty much every man I've ever been with....no matter how much I 'stroke their ego" to make them feel good.
They just can't handle a woman that makes more money than they do...or is blessed with a gift that generates income without having to slave away at a job you hate.
My independance is threatning to them....because I do not 'need' them.

Personally, this bums me out to no end.......because when I'm in love with someone, I want to 'shine' for them...so they can be proud to be my partner...be able to tell their friends 'Yeah, that's MY GIRL!"
I know that personally, I'd much rather want to be in someone's life that 'wanted' me there, not because they 'needed" me to be there.

Are there no men out there that can appreciate a smart, talented , attractive, independant woman out there these days?

Why should we have to "pretend' that we 'need' you?
Why isn't it good enough that we love you , and want you in our lives?
Why do you get all threatened when we 'succeed', and are shining for you, so you will be proud to have us on your arm?!
Do you really want some woman that depends on you for EVERYTHING?
Emotional fulfilment, financial support, emotional support?
Seems to me it would get old pretty quick having to be EVERYTHING to another person, have them lean on you for it all.

Because of these things, is why I really don't date anymore.
I'm sick of having to fight to be me, to be 'allowed' to create...
Sick of men that get pissed off and leave because I made more money in 4 days, than they did in a month...
Sick of men that get all upset, because I don't need them in my life, I just 'want' them to be in it...

A woman's life does not have to revolve around a man, and I'm sick and tired of having to tip-toe around their so easily bruised egos.
Partnerships should be an equal exchange of love,respect, and support for one another...not some competition, or some deadly game of having to constantly prop up your partner's ego, or it all comes crashing down.


wanna go out sometime? :) Looking for a woman just like you. I am in law school. 6 foot 3 dark hair and eyes. You are beautiful to me, just by hearing your words. I like it when a woman makes more than me. It's a major turn on. it means you have your shit together


LOL.....Where have ya been all these years?!!!!
I've been searching for someone like you!
You guys are like trying to find a living Dodo Bird...:P

LOL..I doubt I'd make more money than an attorney...but sometimes I do pull down $50 an hour plus, depending on the job.
Normally I charge big time when I have have to go up a couple of stories on a building to work...I hate heights, but will do it if I'm paid enough.

So, what part of the Country are you in?!
Seriously, it would be nice to meet someone that isn't intimidated by me...that would appreciate me shining for them...:)
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Haha, Illinois, but willing to move. Im 23
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You people are bot scabs on the scrodum of america.

By the way.


because we want to better ourselves? Who are you to judge? You are probably sleeping in your moms basement holding out for the apocalypse. lol

Live life while you have it. Apocalypse or no apocalypse life is short. If not, you will have a sad existence.
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I am thy that has been judge. The laws you will use are intended to fuck people out of money. Keeping people poor and in bad social standing is the same as haveing more money then them.

Go and base your life on victems, base it on laws based on money and domination. Watch your TV and pretend you are rightous.

In the end you will be as ignorent as you are now haveing reaked of an unnatureal colone your hole life.
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Ya would know it!
Too young for me! Damnit!!!
I'm 44, and have a son that's 21... :P

But, if this is the mindset of most younger men....it explains why these days the men that are interested in me are younger.
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Money is all that is important.


It shouldn't be that way though...:(


The problem is -- women will say that; most know it isn't good to base it all on money. However, the unconscious element seems to affect many (not all) who say it doesn't. It's sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101259


It is sad.....because where there is love, and 2 people working together, the material things just 'come' as a result of their love, and working together to have a life.

You know, I don't even ask the men I go out with about their finances...because it isn't important to me.
If we click, and work together...there isn't anything 'material' that can't be aquired.
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WOMEN ARE ALL DUMB WHORES.

DEEP DOWN THEY JUST WANT TO BE SLUTS AND NOT INDEPENDANT & STRONG.

IF A WOMAN WANTS TO BE INDEPENDENT AND SMART, SHES NOT BEING TRUE TO HER OWN BIOLOGY AND PRIMAL NEEDS.

WOMEN LIKE TO BE DUMB DITZ READY TO SUCK YOUR TOES WHEN YOU ASK EM.
Don't believe anything I say... I lie all the time.
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LOL...I'm one hell of a 'talker'....so I know I'm not sending mixed signals.
I learned years ago, because of the wrapper Creator stuffed me into...I have to be crystal clear with men.
If I'm not interested in them sexually, it's difficult for me to even just be 'nice', or 'friendly', because they mistake it for me being attracted to them.
It always comes down to that uncomfortable conversation " I like you as a friend, but I'm not interested in dating you"
When I am attracted to someone...me being an Aries girl, I normally am the 1 to ask them out for the first time.
So, no mixed signals..I make the first move.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


I know what you mean. I've had the same problem.

You know what fixes it?

Hang out with a better class of male.

It took me literally decades to realize that upper class males are use to women who are intelligent and accomplished and attractive, and that solved all my problems.
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WOMEN ARE ALL DUMB WHORES.

DEEP DOWN THEY JUST WANT TO BE SLUTS AND NOT INDEPENDANT & STRONG.

IF A WOMAN WANTS TO BE INDEPENDENT AND SMART, SHES NOT BEING TRUE TO HER OWN BIOLOGY AND PRIMAL NEEDS.

WOMEN LIKE TO BE DUMB DITZ READY TO SUCK YOUR TOES WHEN YOU ASK EM.
 Quoting: RazriN


OP, this illustrates my point. This is the voice of trash speaking.
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Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.
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WOMEN ARE ALL DUMB WHORES.

DEEP DOWN THEY JUST WANT TO BE SLUTS AND NOT INDEPENDANT & STRONG.

IF A WOMAN WANTS TO BE INDEPENDENT AND SMART, SHES NOT BEING TRUE TO HER OWN BIOLOGY AND PRIMAL NEEDS.

WOMEN LIKE TO BE DUMB DITZ READY TO SUCK YOUR TOES WHEN YOU ASK EM.
 Quoting: RazriN

Razin....we all know how you feel about women, so I'm gonna just let your comments slide.
I'm sorry you've had such awful experiences that have left you with this opinion of women.
Hopefully one day, you'll run across a woman that isn't a lying, cheating, money grubbing harlot....we do exist.
It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack though...:P
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Money is all that is important.


It shouldn't be that way though...:(


The problem is -- women will say that; most know it isn't good to base it all on money. However, the unconscious element seems to affect many (not all) who say it doesn't. It's sad.


It is sad.....because where there is love, and 2 people working together, the material things just 'come' as a result of their love, and working together to have a life.

You know, I don't even ask the men I go out with about their finances...because it isn't important to me.
If we click, and work together...there isn't anything 'material' that can't be aquired.
 Quoting: Woodsprite



Look how the focus is about money and material things.

Thats all there is for you.
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LOL...I'm one hell of a 'talker'....so I know I'm not sending mixed signals.
I learned years ago, because of the wrapper Creator stuffed me into...I have to be crystal clear with men.
If I'm not interested in them sexually, it's difficult for me to even just be 'nice', or 'friendly', because they mistake it for me being attracted to them.
It always comes down to that uncomfortable conversation " I like you as a friend, but I'm not interested in dating you"
When I am attracted to someone...me being an Aries girl, I normally am the 1 to ask them out for the first time.
So, no mixed signals..I make the first move.


I know what you mean. I've had the same problem.

You know what fixes it?

Hang out with a better class of male.

It took me literally decades to realize that upper class males are use to women who are intelligent and accomplished and attractive, and that solved all my problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068251


LMAO...this reminds me so much of advice I was given years ago by an elderly black lady I worked for.
Madeline told me I needed to go "hang around golf courses" to find me a nice man to settle down with...:P

In my line of work, it's rather difficult to meet these 'professional' types, when I'm in beat up clothes, covered in paint...:P
Most white collar people don't associate with us 'laborers'
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WOMEN ARE ALL DUMB WHORES.

DEEP DOWN THEY JUST WANT TO BE SLUTS AND NOT INDEPENDANT & STRONG.

IF A WOMAN WANTS TO BE INDEPENDENT AND SMART, SHES NOT BEING TRUE TO HER OWN BIOLOGY AND PRIMAL NEEDS.

WOMEN LIKE TO BE DUMB DITZ READY TO SUCK YOUR TOES WHEN YOU ASK EM.

Razin....we all know how you feel about women, so I'm gonna just let your comments slide.
I'm sorry you've had such awful experiences that have left you with this opinion of women.
Hopefully one day, you'll run across a woman that isn't a lying, cheating, money grubbing harlot....we do exist.
It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack though...:P
 Quoting: Woodsprite



HAHAHAHA COOL.

hf
Don't believe anything I say... I lie all the time.
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Hopefully one day, you'll run across a woman that isn't a lying, cheating, money grubbing harlot....we do exist.
It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack though...:P
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You do realise this is what you are , right ?
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While personally i would have no problem with a woman making more money than me (I actually lived together with such a woman for many years), the problem is more on the womens side, because you always want to mate upwards. Secretly you put a man down for being less successful than you. It is in the genes. Money makes a man sexy, a woman not.
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Money is all that is important.


It shouldn't be that way though...:(


The problem is -- women will say that; most know it isn't good to base it all on money. However, the unconscious element seems to affect many (not all) who say it doesn't. It's sad.


It is sad.....because where there is love, and 2 people working together, the material things just 'come' as a result of their love, and working together to have a life.

You know, I don't even ask the men I go out with about their finances...because it isn't important to me.
If we click, and work together...there isn't anything 'material' that can't be aquired.



Look how the focus is about money and material things.

Thats all there is for you.
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No, it really isn't to me...it only figures into the discussion, because it causes problems for me.
If it didn't come between me and the men I've been involved with ( THEY are the ones that have the problem with me making more than they do, not me!), I wouldn't bring it up.

You'd be surprised at the number of men that use their wealth as a way to 'get' women, or use it to control them.
They get really pissed off when I'm unimpressed by it, and they cannot "buy my affections and loyalty" with 'stuff'.
It really bothers them that I have my own house, 3 paid for vehicles, and money to do whatever I want....that I don't have to come and ask them for anything other than their love and affection, spend time with me.
It really bothers them that if I don't like working for a specific person, I can tell them 'fuck off", and walk away, and go out and find another job, as soon as I want to.

I think this is why they act like they do.....they just can't handle simply being 'wanted', and not 'needed'.
It takes all their 'power' away.
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Money is all that is important.


It shouldn't be that way though...:(


The problem is -- women will say that; most know it isn't good to base it all on money. However, the unconscious element seems to affect many (not all) who say it doesn't. It's sad.


It is sad.....because where there is love, and 2 people working together, the material things just 'come' as a result of their love, and working together to have a life.

You know, I don't even ask the men I go out with about their finances...because it isn't important to me.
If we click, and work together...there isn't anything 'material' that can't be aquired.
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To know from which position you are firmly judging, please read it in the Book of Baruch, ...and never might that it has Hebrew overtones.
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Hopefully one day, you'll run across a woman that isn't a lying, cheating, money grubbing harlot....we do exist.
It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack though...:P

You do realise this is what you are , right ?
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How would you know, you've never met me?
Personally, I never lie, because I think it's wrong, and don't like it being done to me...
I have NEVER cheated on anyone I've ever been involved with.
If I'm not interested in them anymore, and find myself looking around at others, I figure it's time to get out of the relationship.
If I was really in love with them, I wouldn't be lookin' around.
Better to just put the cards on the table and let it be what it is....mutually part without a bunch of bullshit drama.

Money grubbing Harlot?
Why would I need anyone else's money, when I have my own?!!!
I sure don't have to prostitute myself for anything...because I have everything I need to exist, very nicely, without having to take anything from them.

The only things I'm looking for in a life partner, is someone to walk the road with me, hand in hand, towards a life we both want...both people contributing what they can.
When things are perfect...you cover each other's weaknesses, and things work out beautifully.
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No, it really isn't to me...it only figures into the discussion, because it causes problems for me.
If it didn't come between me and the men I've been involved with ( THEY are the ones that have the problem with me making more than they do, not me!), I wouldn't bring it up.

You'd be surprised at the number of men that use their wealth as a way to 'get' women, or use it to control them.
They get really pissed off when I'm unimpressed by it, and they cannot "buy my affections and loyalty" with 'stuff'.
It really bothers them that I have my own house, 3 paid for vehicles, and money to do whatever I want....that I don't have to come and ask them for anything other than their love and affection, spend time with me.
It really bothers them that if I don't like working for a specific person, I can tell them 'fuck off", and walk away, and go out and find another job, as soon as I want to.

I think this is why they act like they do.....they just can't handle simply being 'wanted', and not 'needed'.
It takes all their 'power' away.
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Aren't we talking about how special you are ?

Could it be that you are in direct competition with them the entite time you are around them.
This is what I dealing with right now in my life and there is no reason. My meir presence generates a competition based on the vanity of women. They have got to be better than men. It's fucking stupid.
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While personally i would have no problem with a woman making more money than me (I actually lived together with such a woman for many years), the problem is more on the womens side, because you always want to mate upwards. Secretly you put a man down for being less successful than you. It is in the genes. Money makes a man sexy, a woman not.
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Well, if that's the way it is...then it sux!

To me that whole notion of 'marrying up' is antiquated in today's World.
I'm sure there are some that still feel this way.....but to me, it dosen't involve money.
Why can't they just pick a partner that has genetic qualities they admire and would like to pass on to their children?
Like, compassion, intelligence, creativity, loyalty, integrity....
These things cannot be 'bought' with any amount of money, and are so much more important in the Grand Scheme of things...





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