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Male egos, and strong, independant women...

 
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Wtf strong females are hot as hell , you just have to push different buttons.


i cant stand those stupid cunt types of women, you know, those who have no opinion and cannot think for themsellves...

but strong intelligent women are a rarity these days . /
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No, it really isn't to me...it only figures into the discussion, because it causes problems for me.
If it didn't come between me and the men I've been involved with ( THEY are the ones that have the problem with me making more than they do, not me!), I wouldn't bring it up.

You'd be surprised at the number of men that use their wealth as a way to 'get' women, or use it to control them.
They get really pissed off when I'm unimpressed by it, and they cannot "buy my affections and loyalty" with 'stuff'.
It really bothers them that I have my own house, 3 paid for vehicles, and money to do whatever I want....that I don't have to come and ask them for anything other than their love and affection, spend time with me.
It really bothers them that if I don't like working for a specific person, I can tell them 'fuck off", and walk away, and go out and find another job, as soon as I want to.

I think this is why they act like they do.....they just can't handle simply being 'wanted', and not 'needed'.
It takes all their 'power' away.


Aren't we talking about how special you are ?

Could it be that you are in direct competition with them the entite time you are around them.
This is what I dealing with right now in my life and there is no reason. My meir presence generates a competition based on the vanity of women. They have got to be better than men. It's fucking stupid.
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I don't consider myself 'special'....blighted maybe, but def. not special.

I'm not in competitiion with them...I'm just trying to be me, and do what I love...that just happens to generate money.
There is just something about it, that somehow men turn it into a competition, when it isn't 1.
I want them to be proud to be with me, because I am not a Albatross around their neck, simply leaching off of them...I am a woman born with a gift, a need to create.... just let me be me, and let me shine, and I will shower them with so much love they wouldn't know what to do with it all!
This dosen't happen though....the more money I earn, the more awards i win for my work...the more they feel they are in competition with me...less than me.
I've never thrown any of my accomplishments in anyone's face.....because I'm not doing the work I do for money, or awards, I'm doing it because it is a part of my Spirit, something I was born to do....something I LOVE to do.
Why is that so threatning to a man?
Is it because they have nothing like that in their own lives...so they feel I shouldn't either?
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Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.
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Could you please expound on this thought?
I'd like to know more about it.... :)
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09/18/2010 07:52 AM
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OP I'm sure that your experience has been just as you've described.Though I'm afraid it's a bit more complicated than that. The entire dynamic between men and women has been tampered with and redesgned in a way that is not balance.

Women seem to love the way things have turned out because they get to have all the benefits that patriarchy has provided many men(not all).

The reason women are doing better than men right is largely by the elitists design.
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I don't consider myself 'special'....blighted maybe, but def. not special.

I'm not in competitiion with them...I'm just trying to be me, and do what I love...that just happens to generate money.
There is just something about it, that somehow men turn it into a competition, when it isn't 1.
I want them to be proud to be with me, because I am not a Albatross around their neck, simply leaching off of them...I am a woman born with a gift, a need to create.... just let me be me, and let me shine, and I will shower them with so much love they wouldn't know what to do with it all!
This dosen't happen though....the more money I earn, the more awards i win for my work...the more they feel they are in competition with me...less than me.
I've never thrown any of my accomplishments in anyone's face.....because I'm not doing the work I do for money, or awards, I'm doing it because it is a part of my Spirit, something I was born to do....something I LOVE to do.
Why is that so threatning to a man?
Is it because they have nothing like that in their own lives...so they feel I shouldn't either?
 Quoting: Woodsprite



I don't know what to tell you. I think it's just the simple law of women like dickheads.

Maybe men are afraid that you feel entitled to everything they have and you have the resouces to get it.
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No matter how much you tell yourself you're not in competition with men it is a competition. I didn't say you designed this competition, but you do play the game.

What is your definition of femininity? The definitions and roles have been reverse in many ways.Straight men largely don't like the new rules.

That's why (as quiet as it's kept) women are marrying gay men.
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OP I'm sure that your experience has been just as you've described.Though I'm afraid it's a bit more complicated than that. The entire dynamic between men and women has been tampered with and redesgned in a way that is not balance.

Women seem to love the way things have turned out because they get to have all the benefits that patriarchy has provided many men(not all).

The reason women are doing better than men right is largely by the elitists design.
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Yeah, I feel you are right about it being more complicated, probably a tree with roots so deep we'll never be able to see them all.

Personally, I have a love/hate relationship with this whole "women's equality" thing.
While it has been good on some issues....it's messing up some very basic structures in Society.
I'd be happy as a clam, living like in the old days...stay at home and take care of the house and kids.....just so long as I was allowed to Create, still.
We, as a Society, are having a lot of problems with all this change....and it dosen't seem to really be getting much better.
It almost seems like there is hostility lurking under the surface that is growing.
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I'm talking about the men that get intimidated/jealous of a strong, independant woman.






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Stopped reading right there. When you hear these words, you know it is going to be a lot of Oprah, feel good drivel about how "strong" women are.

There are not any.

Women are like little children. You can tell them how great and strong they are, but its just baloney to make them feel good.

Men know this.

And women like this mostly end up alone and bitter, pointing fingers at everyone, except themselves.

Because in reality, all women want to be taken care of by a man.

Just how it is.
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Re: Male egos, and strong, independant women...
OP I'm sure that your experience has been just as you've described.Though I'm afraid it's a bit more complicated than that. The entire dynamic between men and women has been tampered with and redesgned in a way that is not balance.

Women seem to love the way things have turned out because they get to have all the benefits that patriarchy has provided many men(not all).

The reason women are doing better than men right is largely by the elitists design.
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Exactly , equal yet still entitled to all things that men are suposed give to a women. That fair. Not.
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Wtf strong females are hot as hell , you just have to push different buttons.


i cant stand those stupid cunt types of women, you know, those who have no opinion and cannot think for themsellves...

but strong intelligent women are a rarity these days . /
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So if one of these "STRONG" women that you love so much asked you to take it tha butt, would you?

And I'm not just being vulgar for vulgarities sake. I live in New York City. And one of the trends among "STRONG" modern women and metro sexual men is sexual role reversal.

Women openly admit (men not so much) that they perform anal penetration on their supposed straight boy friends. This is what has come about because society has forced gender role obliteration.

Be aware of where your perception and urges come from friend.
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I don't consider myself 'special'....blighted maybe, but def. not special.

I'm not in competitiion with them...I'm just trying to be me, and do what I love...that just happens to generate money.
There is just something about it, that somehow men turn it into a competition, when it isn't 1.
I want them to be proud to be with me, because I am not a Albatross around their neck, simply leaching off of them...I am a woman born with a gift, a need to create.... just let me be me, and let me shine, and I will shower them with so much love they wouldn't know what to do with it all!
This dosen't happen though....the more money I earn, the more awards i win for my work...the more they feel they are in competition with me...less than me.
I've never thrown any of my accomplishments in anyone's face.....because I'm not doing the work I do for money, or awards, I'm doing it because it is a part of my Spirit, something I was born to do....something I LOVE to do.
Why is that so threatning to a man?
Is it because they have nothing like that in their own lives...so they feel I shouldn't either?



I don't know what to tell you. I think it's just the simple law of women like dickheads.

Maybe men are afraid that you feel entitled to everything they have and you have the resouces to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1102306


This is a head scratcher, for sure....
I'm hopeing that your general statement about us liking 'dickheads' is not applicable to all females...LOL
I know I don't like dickheads....that's why I'm alone.
Seems to be a sea of them out there...trying to find 1 that isn't is like looking for 'El Dorado"...fabled city of gold.
Surely there has to be a few men walking the planet that have these Golden Spirits, where competition isn't even in the equation...that can love, just simply because they see the beauty within, and value it more than any material thing.

I don't know that I feel 'entitled" to anything material, and I surely don't want to be a man, I'm happy being a woman...why so threatened that women can earn money too, and have accomplishments recognized by others...just because they do a kick ass job.?
Are we supposed to be 'less than' men, always?
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No matter how much you tell yourself you're not in competition with men it is a competition. I didn't say you designed this competition, but you do play the game.

What is your definition of femininity? The definitions and roles have been reverse in many ways.Straight men largely don't like the new rules.

That's why (as quiet as it's kept) women are marrying gay men.
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How can I get out of the game?
Because I never wanted to be part of it , at any time....just wanted to be me, and live my life the way that makes me happy....like all humans strive to do.
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I'm talking about the men that get intimidated/jealous of a strong, independant woman.










Stopped reading right there. When you hear these words, you know it is going to be a lot of Oprah, feel good drivel about how "strong" women are.

There are not any.

Women are like little children. You can tell them how great and strong they are, but its just baloney to make them feel good.

Men know this.

And women like this mostly end up alone and bitter, pointing fingers at everyone, except themselves.

Because in reality, all women want to be taken care of by a man.

Just how it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1102342


I have 0 desire to 'be taken care of' by any man.
I've learned that it dosen't come without a price....everything that is "given' to you, whether it's fake words of support,companionship or material things....it all comes with a price.
Usually, they expect you to conform to their wishes, do what they want you to do, when they tell you to do it.
Or they hold it over your head, like 'You wouldn't be driving that nice car if it wasn't for me! You better watch your mouth, and do what I say, or it will be gone"

I am alone, and I very well may die alone...but I won't be bitter.
I'll just be sad, like I am now, that things are the way they are.

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Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.
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lol, that way over OP's head AC
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Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


Could you please expound on this thought?
I'd like to know more about it.... :)
 Quoting: Woodsprite


Certainly. The path of the obvious is often the most obscure.... though right at our feet. It's examples are always all around us, the world of natural phenomena constantly offering clues. The natural order can be viewed in the most simple of things, the arc late spring snow makes falling off a leaf to the ground, effortless and on time.

I'm not trying to be obtuse. You seem sincere in your posts or I wouldn't have answered. Men and women fit into this order also, of course, if you want it to be so.
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Exactly , equal yet still entitled to all things that men are suposed give to a women. That fair. Not.
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Well ?

Is this true ?
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Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


lol, that way over OP's head AC
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Not way over my head...but it didn't give much information on his thought...it could lead to several differant places.
At least I was intelligent enough to ask him to further explain his thought...didn't just blow it off, because I didn't grasp the entirety of what he was saying.
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I have 0 desire to 'be taken care of' by any man.

 Quoting: Woodsprite



And you wont be. Trust me there.

A man wants a woman to take care of. It's in the DNA, as the opposite is for the woman.

Anyone who tells you any different, has bought into the feminist nonsense.
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Oh come on Op! Go for the 23 yo. A 20 year age gap is workable.
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Re: Male egos, and strong, independant women...
Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


Could you please expound on this thought?
I'd like to know more about it.... :)


Certainly. The path of the obvious is often the most obscure.... though right at our feet. It's examples are always all around us, the world of natural phenomena constantly offering clues. The natural order can be viewed in the most simple of things, the arc late spring snow makes falling off a leaf to the ground, effortless and on time.

I'm not trying to be obtuse. You seem sincere in your posts or I wouldn't have answered. Men and women fit into this order also, of course, if you want it to be so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1102294


I get the basic gist of what you are saying, I think.
And, yes, the Natural Order of things have become very mixed up.
Like I said, I'd be happy with the traditional role Women carried out for eons....but in today's World, things aren't like that anymore.
I didn't create this New World, I am just trying to adapt to be able to have a happy life in it.
This throws me out into the "Hunter's Arena", whether I want to be there or not.
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Works for me!

My woman is a very senior executive for a major UK retailer (only 2 above her in whole company)

I'm a market trader - lifes great!!!
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Exactly , equal yet still entitled to all things that men are suposed give to a women. That fair. Not.

Well ?

Is this true ?
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YES

It is
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No matter how much you tell yourself you're not in competition with men it is a competition. I didn't say you designed this competition, but you do play the game.

What is your definition of femininity? The definitions and roles have been reverse in many ways.Straight men largely don't like the new rules.

That's why (as quiet as it's kept) women are marrying gay men.


How can I get out of the game?
Because I never wanted to be part of it , at any time....just wanted to be me, and live my life the way that makes me happy....like all humans strive to do.
 Quoting: Woodsprite









We all get out of the game by becoming aware of it. I think achievement is great. And if you're and artist,then you are an artist even if you don't make all that money.


We have to go back to being just being men and women. And that doesn't mean oppression of women. Feminism would have us all believe that all men throughout history hated women and never fought along side you.

Most men love their daughters and sisters. I have often told my women friends (some of whome are very agree), make allies of men.We all have needs(very human needs). We relate to women first through our mother's. I know this sucks for some women, but you are the nurturer on this planet.

That is the gift of the feminine. You don't have to have a child to express this gift.This planet needs that gift.The material system is falling.I think this will be hardest for women in many ways. Most men I know will rejoice!

Return to the spiritual nature of masculine and feminine. Balance.



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the Natural Order of things have become very mixed up.
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no.

YOU have become very mixed up

and a side-show for the 'natural order' to laugh at.

in time you will discover you are wrong about a great many things.

your brain is a product of MSM

you know nothing of what you speak

natural love you will not know

good luck
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Exactly , equal yet still entitled to all things that men are suposed give to a women. That fair. Not.

Well ?

Is this true ?
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I don't think it is.
Because women are having to work just as hard as a man these days to support the family.
Women have lost much in this "Equality" thing, and equality is not really equality , even though everyone says it's so.
I've never felt I was 'entitled' to anything from a man.
His money is his money...his stuff is his stuff.
If we are a couple, then it all becomes 'our stuff"...there is no yours and mine anymore.
The days of a man being the 1 to 'bring home the bacon', and return home to a loving wife that gives him emotional support and has taken care of the home, has dinner on the table for him are over.
Because now there are 2 people out there doing it, and no one left at home to attend to those other things.

We haven't 'gotten it all"...we've lost a great deal, and have had a bunch more crap heaped onto our shoulders by Society.
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ok, i was pretty fukin harsh...

i hope you find love Woodsprite
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Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


lol, that way over OP's head AC
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I disagree. The OP is a beautiful woman with the divine within.If we all tap into our innate spiritual instincts, we find our way to the truth.


OP all women and men can be natural. Especially when we don't let the enemies of humanity do our thinking for us.Feed the soul OP and love will find you.


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Like I said, I'd be happy with the traditional role Women carried out for eons....but in today's World, things aren't like that anymore.

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It certainly is in my house. And that will never change.
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The days of a man being the 1 to 'bring home the bacon', and return home to a loving wife that gives him emotional support and has taken care of the home, has dinner on the table for him are over.

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Not in my home it's not. My wife does all those things, and more.
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Re: Male egos, and strong, independant women...
Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


Could you please expound on this thought?
I'd like to know more about it.... :)


Certainly. The path of the obvious is often the most obscure.... though right at our feet. It's examples are always all around us, the world of natural phenomena constantly offering clues. The natural order can be viewed in the most simple of things, the arc late spring snow makes falling off a leaf to the ground, effortless and on time.

I'm not trying to be obtuse. You seem sincere in your posts or I wouldn't have answered. Men and women fit into this order also, of course, if you want it to be so.


I get the basic gist of what you are saying, I think.
And, yes, the Natural Order of things have become very mixed up.
Like I said, I'd be happy with the traditional role Women carried out for eons....but in today's World, things aren't like that anymore.
I didn't create this New World, I am just trying to adapt to be able to have a happy life in it.
This throws me out into the "Hunter's Arena", whether I want to be there or not.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


That there is all this chatter out there is undeniable, still it's best to keep your own council.

Men and women have to decide, they cannot have it both ways.





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