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Message Subject Male egos, and strong, independant women...
Poster Handle Woodsprite
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And yes, women are still opressed in many areas of life...
We are still not paid the same wages for performing the same job a man is.
I know all the bullshit in the Media about how it isn't that way anymore...but it's a lie.
I've spent the last 25+ years out there working in the same areas as men...and NEVER have I been paid the same as a man is.
I've had to work twice as hard, and do twice as good a job as them men have..only to be paid less.
I've even been told that the reason I'm treated differantly is 'Because you are a woman'...
So, no I'm not warped...I'm living in reality.
It's you that's under some sort of Delusion of hate.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


Ok I'm going to say something you're probably not going to want to hear, and I really hope you don't take it personally.

Men make less money doing clerical jobs (and 9 times out of 10 won't even be considered for them.)
Women make less money in management/data processing and security.

Companies will also get tax breaks and incentives for hiring women, because you are legally a protected class (in the US anyway.)

I'm just picking two figures I'm specifically familiar with working where I do. Like it or not, women excel at clerical positions. They are able to multitask more effectively, and like planning and having a "domain" more than men in my 15 years experience (and this matches other HR roles and statistics.)

Men, however, are exceedingly better communicators (not talking to each other, but convey straight facts that are vital in most business atmosphere.) Men have less break downs, men take less time off.

When you are battling statistics, yes. You will have to prove yourself, and I know for a fact that not ALL women are this way. Women just happen to be much better than men in areas that don't pay as well.
 Quoting: Jake101

I appreciate your reponse, and no, I don't take it personally.. :)

I'm not specifically speaking about the 'suit and tie' World of business.
I'm talking about Trades...
I worked in the sign indusrty for 12 years, and it was very negative towards women .
I could not find a male owned shop that would train me, 'because I was a woman, and attractive'. I was literally told...'you would be too big of a distraction' in the shop.
After I hooked up with a woman sign person, and we formed our own shop...the prejudice was still there.
The male owned shops got paid twice what we did for the very same work...because they were men.
They bad mouthed us around town...because they didn't want us 'stealing their work'...
They got pissed off because we chose to work from home, so we could take care of our kids...instead of having to pay a high overhead, and worker's comp....
I've had men say things to me that I know they would never say to man in the same position...just because I'm a woman, and they know they aren't going to get their teeth knocked out for saying it..
Affimative Action has never helped me 1 bit, in my working life...
It's always been a joke.

I do agree though...some jobs women are better at, than men, and vice versa...
I'm sure a 250# man is going to be physically stronger than a 120# woman...be able to do more heavy lifitng and stuff..
 
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