Why have most of the extra-solar planets so far discovered been super massive "hot Jupiters"? | |
DogFishHead (OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always assumed it was because they are the easiest to detect with our burgeoning technology to find extra-solar planets. The thought of a Jupiter-sized or even larger gas giant whizzing around a sun at the same distance Mercury is from our sun is pretty amazing. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe in my version of cosmology and particle physics that Binary Stars are a common result from these jupiter gas giants. I alo believe its possible that with the law of emergence and fusion our jupiter could ignite |
stink lines (nli) (OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say it´s not possible...but then again I´m not a scientist. How did the hot Jupiters get so close? Did they form farther out and slowly drift in? Did they form close in? If so...how could they continue to exist over millions/billions of years? Are all of these systems young or old??? |
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DogFishHead (OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would run that theory by some astronomers and scientists first... |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hello dog fish head that´ll be scientists and astronomers that support the big bang theory, are against ether and chaos theory, support spooky spaghetti string theory and who are generally like hawking part of the cull. hawking´s specialty is mathematical topology and he will have heard of schifflers horns paradox the absolute proof of non-linearity and chaos in his own terms etc etc ... my scientists and theoreticians are : Faraday, Tesla, De palma, Twonsend Brown, Frank Searle and they have all built machines that support the model I use for fusion ignition of jupiter. My theory that will never be run past establishment lackeys is at yahoo groups grandunity3000 - feel free to get the starship engine there too |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the two atomic clock experiment supports my model too ... that time is the same wave as gravity and that there is less time further away from the centre of gravity. plenty supporting data that can be used on entirely different cosmologies ... but who needs science when you have the keycard to level 42 goodies and or a list of safe foods |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to answer the original question using my theory, the universe is into binary self reproduction at all levels in the microcosm and the macrocosm .. the mechanism works around symmetry and resonance and is powered by free energy fusion in stars. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dust formation in brown dwarf atmospheres is studied by utilising a model for driven turbulence in the mesoscopic scale regime. We apply a pseudo-spectral method where waves are created and superimposed within a limited wavenumber interval. The turbulent kinetic energy distribution follows the Kolmogoroff spectrum which is assumed to be the most likely value. Such superimposed, stochastic waves may occur in a convectively active environment. They cause nucleation fronts and nucleation events and thereby initiate the dust formation process which continues until all condensible material is consumed. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that IF jupiter does go binary as in 2012 it will also go supernovae because of the heavy end plutonium salts .. it will chave caused a dirty fusion/fission reaction. I think ET dumped the plutonim comet in delberately ... can´t find SL12 or 12 or 14 or 15 on the net the onl;y hits recorded and easily found are SL 9 in 1999 ... makes me suspicious .. sl12-15 was announced 2001 on bbc news - can´t trace the info anywhere |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As others have pointed out, the answer should be fairly obvious... Large objects are much easier to detect than smaller ones (and I´m not talking visual detection, usually these are discovered through gravitational perturbations of the parent star)... and Hot objects are much easier to detect than cooler ones, as they stand out from the background better in the infrared part of the spectrum. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | an increase in solar output coupled with a capacitor like effect of transitional elements around the core of the planet would I hypothesise create enough of a bottle neck in the discharge process at some point to fire up the core. a capaciitor works by magnifying charge across a non conductor - if the sun flares up enough, I theorise that the charge could build up more than it tends to discharge creating an energy bottleneck that could fire the core |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that dust starts to assemble around a seed asteroid and that. emergent energies [for emergence see www.santafe.edu self assembling autocatalytic polymers stuart kauffman] atoms begin the be created and recreated by the local cauldron of the ether ... these new atoms would tend to be around the centre of the periodic table - the germanium etc light metals of semiconductors .. so I think you get a rock coated in light metal salts which eventually acts as a capacitor which when driven by the star causes ignition. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don´t believe that the capacitor metal is a homgenous metallic sheet but a mixture of atomic aggregates 100´s of miles thick which will leak ... its when the suns energy overcomes the leakage that the charge will ted to build up ... [in my theory] |
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SunSpot (OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With the current method being used to find planets, it takes on the order of the period of the planet´s orbit to detect it. So to detect an actual Jupiter around another planet would require about twelve years. There are apparently stars being looked at that show promise in this regard, but it´s going to be several more years before the existence of these more distant planets can be confirmed. Right now, the easiest planets to find are planets that are large and close to the parent star - the larger and closer, the better. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "however in the year 2001 it was hit by shoemaker levy comet sL12-15 which was Plutonium." You should try living in the real world instead of this fantasy la-la land you´ve created. Just about everything you´ve posted in this thread has been complete gibberish. |
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PhantomWolf nli (OP) 12/08/2005 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are easy to find at the moment because they simply are large and close to their star. This means that their gravity causes the Star to wooble quite a bit because their centre of gravity is pulled a bit closer to the planet than it would be otherwise. Since both the planet and star both orbit the centre of gravity of the system, this causes the star to appear to "wooble" and it is this wooble that is what is looked for in the current search for exo-planets so that is what is found. |