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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 09/20/2010 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: icphotons[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Title: Is the solar system entering a nearby interstellar cloud Authors: Vidal-Madjar, A., Laurent, C., Bruston, P., & Audouze, J. Journal: Astrophysical Journal, Part 1, vol. 223, July 15, 1978, p. 589-600. [link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu] interesting... In the abstract they say that the cloud is VERY CLOSE and we are heading into it...again, 1978. Then, they say, in 2001, it is a 'new' discovery. Straight up lie by decades. then last year Voyager finally enters the cloud and we hear nothing else about it... Exactly. Xenus has searched, as well as I, and we both hit a wall where no information on the cloud's position or density (or anything for that matter) is available. |
icphotons User ID: 1057887 United States 09/20/2010 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: Sickscent[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Title: Is the solar system entering a nearby interstellar cloud Authors: Vidal-Madjar, A., Laurent, C., Bruston, P., & Audouze, J. Journal: Astrophysical Journal, Part 1, vol. 223, July 15, 1978, p. 589-600. [link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu] interesting... In the abstract they say that the cloud is VERY CLOSE and we are heading into it...again, 1978. Then, they say, in 2001, it is a 'new' discovery. Straight up lie by decades. then last year Voyager finally enters the cloud and we hear nothing else about it... Exactly. Xenus has searched, as well as I, and we both hit a wall where no information on the cloud's position or density (or anything for that matter) is available. that makes 3 of us... |
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phizzycyst User ID: 725371 United States 09/20/2010 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SickscentWell, my guess is that they know the area of interst space it is coming from, because they have viewed these clouds for a while now, and know that we were converging with them. So, they should have a great idea as to where to point the birds... I agree, I think they know where to point the sensors (direction of movement), and the more I think about it, the spaced based sensors for the next GOES satellite seems to be 'custom fitted' for this kind of detection??? Hmmm? |
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~*~gsf~*~ User ID: 1089393 Canada 09/20/2010 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: Sickscent[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! :gsfhibiscus: ...Where there's a Will... "...go back to sleep you yellow bellied freaks, afraid of God AND Modern Science..." ~ Wintersleep ~ |
Vet User ID: 1074072 Sweden 09/20/2010 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe in accelerating universe, hard for me to explain in english, but further you are from where you left, its not only the distance that increases, but also in every other dimension, time, density,speed and so on.. I am loved by some, hated by many. Envied by most, yet wanted by plenty...:rose: :rullvann: |
icphotons User ID: 1057887 United States 09/20/2010 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: ~*~gsf~*~[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! damn, is that you in the avatar??? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 09/20/2010 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: ~*~gsf~*~[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! Conditioning |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 09/20/2010 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: icphotons[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! damn, is that you in the avatar??? |
Xenus (OP) User ID: 1066790 Australia 09/20/2010 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They've known for a lot longer than 1978. Priscilla C. Frisch University of Chicago [email protected] Abstract Speculations that encounters with interstellar clouds modify the terrestrial climate have appeared in the scientific literature for over 85 years. The articles in this volume seek to give substance to these speculations by examining the exact mechanisms that link the pressure and composition of the interstellar medium surrounding the Sun to the physical properties of the inner heliosphere at the Earth. [link to lanl.arxiv.org] These clouds cannot be observed by our eyes, most of them are dusty and block, absorb or reflect radiation. They can only been "seen" by spectroscopy, by analyzing the absorption lines from what I understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 09/20/2010 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They've known for a lot longer than 1978. Quoting: Xenus Priscilla C. Frisch University of Chicago [email protected] Abstract Speculations that encounters with interstellar clouds modify the terrestrial climate have appeared in the scientific literature for over 85 years. The articles in this volume seek to give substance to these speculations by examining the exact mechanisms that link the pressure and composition of the interstellar medium surrounding the Sun to the physical properties of the inner heliosphere at the Earth. [link to lanl.arxiv.org] These clouds cannot be observed by our eyes, most of them are dusty and block, absorb or reflect radiation. They can only been "seen" by spectroscopy, by analyzing the absorption lines from what I understand. Priscilla C. Frisch...She is the key to the cloud thing. Her studies and research have been involved since the beginning of the discovery...and it pops up in all related research. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1104553 Germany 09/20/2010 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speculations that encounters with interstellar clouds modify the terrestrial climate Quoting: Xenus have appeared in the scientific literature for over 85 years. So much for "The evil NASA is hiding it all from us !" ... folks just need to read the right stuff instead of woowoo-crap on the internet. Good find. |
icphotons User ID: 1057887 United States 09/20/2010 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this could be the first proof that our Heliosphere it actually really shrinking?! It makes sense that the interstellar cloud would put pressure on these crafts. Does anybody know where Voyager is located at the moment?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104281it's heading towards Uranus! |
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Xenus (OP) User ID: 1066790 Australia 09/20/2010 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this could be the first proof that our Heliosphere it actually really shrinking?! It makes sense that the interstellar cloud would put pressure on these crafts. Does anybody know where Voyager is located at the moment?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1104281It's been shrinking for a while now. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] New data has revealed that the heliosphere, the protective shield of energy that surrounds our solar system, has weakened by 25 per cent over the past decade and is now at it lowest level since the space race began 50 years ago. Scientists are baffled at what could be causing the barrier to shrink in this way and are to launch mission to study the heliosphere. |
~*~gsf~*~ User ID: 1089393 Canada 09/20/2010 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: icphotons[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! damn, is that you in the avatar??? Yes. It is my glp face about 99 percent of the time I am reading here...maybe more :gsfhibiscus: ...Where there's a Will... "...go back to sleep you yellow bellied freaks, afraid of God AND Modern Science..." ~ Wintersleep ~ |
~*~gsf~*~ User ID: 1089393 Canada 09/20/2010 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: Sickscent[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! Conditioning Im not sure I agree with that being the cause...but I respect your opinion of course as you know :) :gsfhibiscus: ...Where there's a Will... "...go back to sleep you yellow bellied freaks, afraid of God AND Modern Science..." ~ Wintersleep ~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 09/20/2010 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this could be the first proof that our Heliosphere it actually really shrinking?! It makes sense that the interstellar cloud would put pressure on these crafts. Does anybody know where Voyager is located at the moment?? Quoting: Xenus It's been shrinking for a while now. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] New data has revealed that the heliosphere, the protective shield of energy that surrounds our solar system, has weakened by 25 per cent over the past decade and is now at it lowest level since the space race began 50 years ago. Scientists are baffled at what could be causing the barrier to shrink in this way and are to launch mission to study the heliosphere. whatever... |
icphotons User ID: 1057887 United States 09/20/2010 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: ~*~gsf~*~[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! damn, is that you in the avatar??? Yes. It is my glp face about 99 percent of the time I am reading here...maybe more beautiful glp face! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 09/20/2010 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: ~*~gsf~*~[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! Conditioning Im not sure I agree with that being the cause...but I respect your opinion of course as you know :) I agree with you. I think it is an aspect of it, though. |
Vet User ID: 1074072 Sweden 09/20/2010 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this could explain string theory, and accelerating space theory I am loved by some, hated by many. Envied by most, yet wanted by plenty...:rose: :rullvann: |
Vet User ID: 1074072 Sweden 09/20/2010 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In wondering how to solve this problem, one naturally wonders if the real world can somehow be interpreted outside 4d reality and embedded in a higher dimensional spacetime described with warped gemetry. if so, the four-dimensional cosmological instants may be uniquely described in two length scales, one scale associated with the size of extra dimensions and the other is a scale associated with the expansion rate of our universe. but we must be able to understand gravity, in 3d. Quoting: Vetthis could explain string theory, and accelerating space theory [link to iopscience.iop.org] I am loved by some, hated by many. Envied by most, yet wanted by plenty...:rose: :rullvann: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1104170 United Kingdom 09/20/2010 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the aught to make a new faster voyager, with a live hd camera and a load more sensors. Quoting: Sickscentalready been done (sorta). They've sent a ton of new birds up lately, with ALL sorts of gadgets. good. its currently a pitty they are not releasing the true high res pics of Titan from a cassini. Im waiting for the probe to reach pluto tho,,, but i think i will have a long wait. unless we develop a superior engine before its arrival that can catch up to it and push it faster to get there sooner. eh i bet the geeks at nasa dint think of that one. |
~*~gsf~*~ User ID: 1089393 Canada 09/20/2010 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: icphotons[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! damn, is that you in the avatar??? Yes. It is my glp face about 99 percent of the time I am reading here...maybe more beautiful glp face! Stunned was the word I was opting for LOL Thanks though... :gsfhibiscus: ...Where there's a Will... "...go back to sleep you yellow bellied freaks, afraid of God AND Modern Science..." ~ Wintersleep ~ |
~*~gsf~*~ User ID: 1089393 Canada 09/20/2010 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then 7 years later they discover this Quoting: Sickscent[link to science.nasa.gov] I have a pdf that show they found this 31 years ago...kinda strange how they with-hold information, isn't it. Not strange at all. Just look at how people react to that which they are 'allowed' to 'know'! Conditioning Im not sure I agree with that being the cause...but I respect your opinion of course as you know :) I agree with you. I think it is an aspect of it, though. Yes I am that sure it is a part :gsfhibiscus: ...Where there's a Will... "...go back to sleep you yellow bellied freaks, afraid of God AND Modern Science..." ~ Wintersleep ~ |