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Interesting discussion with my Illuminatti Dad....

 
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Interesting discussion with my Illuminatti Dad....
The day before yesterday I had a most interesting discussion with my Masonic Dad.
I should say, I come from a family of Mason's...many in my Mom's fam. are 32 degree or higher.
For years, he has denied that it was anything other than a 'social organization'...even when I've spoken to him about such things as why there is a 'skull and bones' on the masonic Crucifix.
The other day, we were talking about what's going on in the World these days....and he said " You know, there is a group of people that are calling all the shots for all the G'Mints , these days".
I responded with 'Yep, I know, the Illuminatti'.
He asked me about the Illuminatti, and I told him, that I believed that they were part of the Masonic order...that they have held the knowledge of the event that's approaching the Earth for many, many years, and have been 'orchestrating events' all along to get their desired 'outcome'.
I told him that's why they have the big letter G in their symbol...standing for Gnosis...the Knowledge.
I also told him that's why our family has always prospered...because we have always been 'tied into' them, and they are the ones that control whether you prosper in this 'World' or not.
I was shocked by his relpy to me.
He simply said...' Sounds like you have it all figured out now, and have found the Truth'.
This is the very first time, in over 20 years of me questioning him about the Masoinc Order, that he has ever been so forth coming with the Truth.
I don't know why he chose to speak so openly to me about it the other day...maybe it's because he's getting old now, and thinks he dosen't have much time left, or maybe he sees that soon, it won't be a 'secret' anymore...
Whatever his reason was, I was completly shocked to hear him him say that what I have believed for so long, is actually the Truth.
The Revelations seem to be coming so fast now...it almost has my head spinning.
I wonder what's next?
Just the past week, we've had Alien Ambassadors appointed by the UN, High Military peeps stepping out and talking about the UFO's and our Nukes, Scientists saying they have discovered another planet that has the possibility of supporting life.....
Mason's admitting to the truth about them...
Whatever it is, I'm sure it's going to be just as incredible as all these other Revelations that seem to be pouring out like someone turned on a water faucet!
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Sounds to me like your sarcasm detector is broken
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He wasn't being sacrastic...my Dad just isn't that way.
When he speaks about serious stuff, he's always dead serious.
In the past, he'd just tell me that I was 'nuts', or it was just a 'social organization, nothing more'.
For him to have said what he did the other day, it was monumental.
He was the 1 that opened up the conversation, and brought it up, not me.
Never before has he even aknowledged that there could possibly be a larger group of people at work behind the scenes, controlling the World's G'Mints.
I personally don't think he likes what he is seeing , going down.
Like he was 'lied to' in some way, and now dosen't feel so obligated to 'keep the secret'.
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Sounds to me like you are either DeMolay or Order of the Rainbow.
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Sounds to me like you are either DeMolay or Order of the Rainbow.
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Those are for younger people to get them introduced and started.
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Re: Interesting discussion with my Illuminatti Dad....
Didn't you already know you have to pact with the devil to be successful (materially) on this earth.
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Sounds to me like you are either DeMolay or Order of the Rainbow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1120064

When I was 11, I was approached about becoming a "Rainbow Girl"....to prepare me for the Eastern Star.
I was pressured heavily by my Mother to join, but not really given any info about them other than ' If you join and become part of the Order, your life will be much easier for you'.
I was also told that if I didn't join them then, that if I later in life decided I wanted to, it would be much harder for me to do so.
It gave me the willies...because of all the secrecy involved, and I didn't like that upside down pentacle that the Eastern Star has as their symbol...so I didn't join.
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Didn't you already know you have to pact with the devil to be successful (materially) on this earth.
 Quoting: <| NutOnTheEdge |>

I haven't...but it appears that I have been surrounded my whole life by others that have.
I don't know it it's with the Devil, or not...but it sure did creep me out when I was young.

Watching them as I've grown up, it has made me develop a Hate of all things material....because they were all so very material, nothing else ever mattered to them.
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Why not just ask him outright what he thinks is coming down the pipe?

Sounds like he may as well spill the beans now you've 'got it all figured out'.
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Sounds to me like you are either DeMolay or Order of the Rainbow.

When I was 11, I was approached about becoming a "Rainbow Girl"....to prepare me for the Eastern Star.
I was pressured heavily by my Mother to join, but not really given any info about them other than ' If you join and become part of the Order, your life will be much easier for you'.
I was also told that if I didn't join them then, that if I later in life decided I wanted to, it would be much harder for me to do so.
It gave me the willies...because of all the secrecy involved, and I didn't like that upside down pentacle that the Eastern Star has as their symbol...so I didn't join.
 Quoting: Woodsprite

Yeah. I remember a couple years back I was walking down the street and I walked past the building being used by the Order of the Eastern Star. They had the curtain open and in the room (the room was probably a basement room in the building as the floor was about 3 feet below the sidewalk and the ceiling of the room would have been just below head level when standing on the sidewalk) and on the floor was an upside down multi-colored pentacle.

I remember thinking, "WOW! Well, that confirms all the rumors for me..."
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Sounds to me like you are either DeMolay or Order of the Rainbow.

When I was 11, I was approached about becoming a "Rainbow Girl"....to prepare me for the Eastern Star.
I was pressured heavily by my Mother to join, but not really given any info about them other than ' If you join and become part of the Order, your life will be much easier for you'.
I was also told that if I didn't join them then, that if I later in life decided I wanted to, it would be much harder for me to do so.
It gave me the willies...because of all the secrecy involved, and I didn't like that upside down pentacle that the Eastern Star has as their symbol...so I didn't join.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


I know a few OES. Males and females (yes, there are males). Had some pretty good open and candid conversations with them. They also thought I should join and tried to convince me that their higher ups would enjoy having me. I was never inclined to join, just wanted to talk about some of the ritual and symbolism involved. Interesting people.
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The compass, square make the letter A, a letter A with a broken middle bar, it is the design of the pyramid seen from the side and split, the tunnels that run through it are the broken middle bar, up to the right is the king's chamber, which all matches up to the Orion Nebula, where the idiot Illuminutty think they came from. The G is actually an Omega symbol turned sideways. Alpha and Omega is what the masonic logo means, and it refers to an ancient goddess symbol.

It comes from the worship of the goddess tanith, whose symbol is an ankh, and crescent moon. The inside terrorist attacks of 9/11 and Deep Horizon started on days right before the crescent moon phase. That is when they attack, the next crescent moon is October 13,14,15. If something big happens next week, it is likely it will happen on the 13th.

Now, don't you just love the masons and their scientology-like alien fantasies? Yep, folks, the upper masons or Illuminutty, think that they are of a different breed of human, and that we are nothing more than their slaves to do with as they please.
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Re: Interesting discussion with my Illuminatti Dad....
The day before yesterday I had a most interesting discussion with my Masonic Dad.
I should say, I come from a family of Mason's...many in my Mom's fam. are 32 degree or higher.
For years, he has denied that it was anything other than a 'social organization'...even when I've spoken to him about such things as why there is a 'skull and bones' on the masonic Crucifix.
The other day, we were talking about what's going on in the World these days....and he said " You know, there is a group of people that are calling all the shots for all the G'Mints , these days".
I responded with 'Yep, I know, the Illuminatti'.
He asked me about the Illuminatti, and I told him, that I believed that they were part of the Masonic order...that they have held the knowledge of the event that's approaching the Earth for many, many years, and have been 'orchestrating events' all along to get their desired 'outcome'.
I told him that's why they have the big letter G in their symbol...standing for Gnosis...the Knowledge.
I also told him that's why our family has always prospered...because we have always been 'tied into' them, and they are the ones that control whether you prosper in this 'World' or not.
I was shocked by his relpy to me.
He simply said...' Sounds like you have it all figured out now, and have found the Truth'.
This is the very first time, in over 20 years of me questioning him about the Masoinc Order, that he has ever been so forth coming with the Truth.
I don't know why he chose to speak so openly to me about it the other day...maybe it's because he's getting old now, and thinks he dosen't have much time left, or maybe he sees that soon, it won't be a 'secret' anymore...
Whatever his reason was, I was completly shocked to hear him him say that what I have believed for so long, is actually the Truth.
The Revelations seem to be coming so fast now...it almost has my head spinning.
I wonder what's next?
Just the past week, we've had Alien Ambassadors appointed by the UN, High Military peeps stepping out and talking about the UFO's and our Nukes, Scientists saying they have discovered another planet that has the possibility of supporting life.....
Mason's admitting to the truth about them...
Whatever it is, I'm sure it's going to be just as incredible as all these other Revelations that seem to be pouring out like someone turned on a water faucet!
 Quoting: Woodsprite


the way i c it ,is they with the knowledge were left in charge of the farm so to speak,overseers,as we the pop gre so did the need of more farmers, jesus speaks of parables and pharisses hideing the knowledge ,but he was pissed they were profiting from it but dident do anything about it, so this theif which is comeing we need to watchout for,
its all very cryptic ,eyes to see ,ears to hear, wow to them who know but still choose the wrong way,, we were better of not knowing anything it seams ,be like little children,be like a passer by... i fear we who have delved in to all this stuff may have put a snare about our soul,i hope im wrong,we can not undoo what we know,
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Re: Interesting discussion with my Illuminatti Dad....
Ask him what TGAOTU means and see if he says " The grand architect of the universe"
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Didn't you already know you have to pact with the devil to be successful (materially) on this earth.
 Quoting: <| NutOnTheEdge |>

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Woodsprite have you ever considered infiltrating your father's lodge and sharing the secrets and information with all of us?
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shroom this is way over my head
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Thanks for the story woodsprite.

Interesting timing.

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... thanks OP ...
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Re: Interesting discussion with my Illuminatti Dad....
He wasn't being sacrastic...my Dad just isn't that way.
When he speaks about serious stuff, he's always dead serious.
In the past, he'd just tell me that I was 'nuts', or it was just a 'social organization, nothing more'.
For him to have said what he did the other day, it was monumental.
He was the 1 that opened up the conversation, and brought it up, not me.
Never before has he even aknowledged that there could possibly be a larger group of people at work behind the scenes, controlling the World's G'Mints.
I personally don't think he likes what he is seeing , going down.
Like he was 'lied to' in some way, and now dosen't feel so obligated to 'keep the secret'.
 Quoting: Woodsprite

Maybe he wasnt lied to, but many times in history and probably in each individual life you make a choice knowing the oitcome and thinking you will be up to the challenge. Only to find out when the distasteful part of the plan happens you were not ready....like putting your own pet to sleep....many people shoot their pets, many cannot handle doing this even though when they walk out to the woods with their old dog and their gun they believe they will be able to.
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all people will have to come to terms with everything they have been involved with or in OP

sounds like he is beginning to

good for you not joining and most people do see that for the most part it is all about materialism, power and greed

I also read that they think they will be somehow forgiven by the charity they do and that reminds me of christians who hurt others then think that confessions will cleanse them of what they did or said.

bottom line is that neither charity nor confession fixes those that have been hurt or deceived
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Woodsprite have you ever considered infiltrating your father's lodge and sharing the secrets and information with all of us?
 Quoting: the prophecyer


It's been a very long time since my Dad went to the Lodge...I don't think it would work...esp. since I didn't do the Rainbow Girl thing.
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Thanks for the story woodsprite.

Interesting timing.

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 Quoting: BOWMAN

You're welcome...
Yeah, I thought it was too, why I mentioned it.
I really have been asking him about it for a long time.
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He wasn't being sacrastic...my Dad just isn't that way.
When he speaks about serious stuff, he's always dead serious.
In the past, he'd just tell me that I was 'nuts', or it was just a 'social organization, nothing more'.
For him to have said what he did the other day, it was monumental.
He was the 1 that opened up the conversation, and brought it up, not me.
Never before has he even aknowledged that there could possibly be a larger group of people at work behind the scenes, controlling the World's G'Mints.
I personally don't think he likes what he is seeing , going down.
Like he was 'lied to' in some way, and now dosen't feel so obligated to 'keep the secret'.

Maybe he wasnt lied to, but many times in history and probably in each individual life you make a choice knowing the oitcome and thinking you will be up to the challenge. Only to find out when the distasteful part of the plan happens you were not ready....like putting your own pet to sleep....many people shoot their pets, many cannot handle doing this even though when they walk out to the woods with their old dog and their gun they believe they will be able to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 868011

True, good point there....

Maybe he just thought it wouldn't happen 'in his lifetime'...like a couple of hundred years from now, not today.
I can see that happening too...
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all people will have to come to terms with everything they have been involved with or in OP

sounds like he is beginning to

good for you not joining and most people do see that for the most part it is all about materialism, power and greed

I also read that they think they will be somehow forgiven by the charity they do and that reminds me of christians who hurt others then think that confessions will cleanse them of what they did or said.

bottom line is that neither charity nor confession fixes those that have been hurt or deceived
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1120150

Thanks... :)
I absolutly agree with what you've said.

My Great Uncles/Cousins were big into the Charity end of the Masons.
Masonic Temple people, always doing something for 'the kids'.
Great Uncle Ed used to always be Foster Brooks' driver when he was here for that golf charity thing...drove one of those lil cars in the parades and stuff.
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Re: Interesting discussion with my Illuminatti Dad....
Ask him what TGAOTU means and see if he says " The grand architect of the universe"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1120327

Even without asking him...I'm pretty sure it does.
It just sounds right to me..
I think it's pretty obvious in their other symbols that they hold those beliefs too...like the eye over the pyramid, the compass and square, they all point to " the grand architect of the universe"
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lucifer is strong in you tomato
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Thanks for sharing this OP.
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Sounds interesting!

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I always thought rainbows were a bunch of shitty drug addicts living in the woods





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