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My response to Trin's: Do You Know What I've Learned After 10 Years of Internet Conspiracy Research?

 
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My response to Trin's: Do You Know What I've Learned After 10 Years of Internet Conspiracy Research?
dude.... 21 pages????? Think my post will get buried and I'd like GLP to shoot me down lol.....

Trinity,

Here is how I see it regarding the realm of conspiracy theory and sites like this one, and others which will remain nameless. The golden rule: When confronted with two differing (sometimes extreme) points of view, the TRUTH is right in the middle. INTELLIGENT seekers of TRUTH should see it staring at them in the face and say "Well, that figures". The others exist to provide us entertainment. I even use a scale of 10.

Just a couple of tidbits:

1) Government and the Military Industrial Complex: Conspiracy theorists think that they are all conspiring to take over the world, instigate martial law and kill us all. Sheep/Mainstream society thinks that they only want to take care of us, protect us, feed us and cherish us in some irrational eutopian uncorrupted hogwash.

The truth: When given the power, corruption will manifest itself. It is one of the absolute truths that exists in life. If corruption explodes onto the scene, the only question is: "What are you going to do about it?"

TRUTH VALUE: 5 ENTERTAINMENT VALUE: 10

2) Aliens and UFOs: Conspiracy theorists say that the governments of the world have been covering up the existence of extraterrestrials and their visitations/operations on this planet because we are "unfit" for such a revelation. Sheep/Mainstream society thinks that it is a bunch of woo-woo idiocy, and that EARTH is the only planet in the UNIVERSE capable of sustaining, nurturing and evolving life.

The truth: Of course they fucking exist. The whole burden of proof argument goes straight out the door now that we have the technology to just BEGIN to grasp how unimaginably LARGE and thriving the UNIVERSE is. If you have a degree in statistics and you still do not believe - well.... then you officially achieve rank of Tardwin.

TRUTH VALUE: 8 ENTERTAINMENT VALUE: 10

3) 2012, Pole Shift, Nibiru, BLAH: Conspiracy theorists say that in 2012 someone is going to stick a red hot cattle branding rod up the Sun's ass and it is going to explode with ferocious energy and wipe out the planet. Some of them even say that there is some rogue star/planet that will visit us and shake the living shit outta us, burn us, drown us, and kill us all. Sheep/Mainstream society says that nothing is going to happen, our government space agencies say so. So STFU.

Truth: This isn't really a conspiracy. What is there to conspire? It's freaking space. Neither you or I have any tools to see beyond what we see when we look up at the sky or with our primitive civilian instruments. All we have is history. History and archeological evidence says that DOOM has in fact hit MANY times in our past. EPIC CATACLYSMIC DOOM. However, only the people with the big money and billion dollar wares know what really is up.

Y2K was a man made doom catalyst, therefor something that can be mitigated. And it WAS. Pussy doom. The solar system and beyond is something that we have only begun to really understand, and have no tools to observe from a perspective FROM space.

So we guess and make up shit just like the people who said the earth was flat. Does it pay to be prepared? No. If this sort of doom happens, it doesn't matter what you have done to prepare, your ass is grass. Enjoy the view. The reality? It is going to be a very interesting next few years, and if you live high in the Rockies or Himalayas you just might be one lucky mofo. If the it is just "pretty bad", and TEOTWAWKI doesn't rear it's ugly head, then yes those that have prepared with food, solar panels, weapons and the like might be ok - until the unprepared discover them. Best strategy in that type of situation is to band together versus defend what is about to be take from you.

TRUTH FACTOR: 8 ENTERTAINMENT VALUE: 10

4) The financial system: Conspiracy theorists think that there is a ruling elite that control our banking system, and anything else that involves the exchange of money. They believe that these people sit in the shadows and use this power to control the world, pushing it to a one world order in which these elite sit at the top essentially achieving world domination, something that has never happened in human history. Total domination. Sheep/Mainstream society thinks that we live in a world of free trade, and that no entity has the power to manipulate humanity like that.

The truth: Conspiracy theorists are actually correct. If the system does collapse, see above.

TRUTH FACTOR: 10 ENTERTAINMENT VALUE: 3 (because dude..... THAT SUCKS)


Would go on, but don't want to write a book LOL.

Flame away GLP :)
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Just the customary 1st bump
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There are only three people on this website damned
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There are only three people on this website damned
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me, myself and I ?
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There are only three people on this website damned

me, myself and I ?
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WTF? damned

LOL

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So why did Dave Chappelle really quit?
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So why did Dave Chappelle really quit?
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Because it sucked. Pretty simple.
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There are only three people on this website damned
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Shhhhh!
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Keeping people poor is the same as haveing more money them them.

Makeing people look stupid is the same as looking smarter then them.

So on and so forth.........
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I Say! Good JOB OP!!
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Meh, this belongs buried somewhere between pages 15 and 20 in the pinned thread.
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The cycles of experience. I think Trinity is just finishing one.
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What I would add is there is no way this country is the same as it was 10-20-30 years ago.

They have robbed,taxed,passed a bunch of obscene laws to tax,control and depopulate.That no one can really deny.
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Hmm in SJ's defense, Trin? Anyone else to refute this guy?
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Keeping people poor is the same as haveing more money them them.

Makeing people look stupid is the same as looking smarter then them.

So on and so forth.........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1125870


Dude, I am not trying to make anyone look stupid. At least SOME of you know me here, I hope.

Just telling it like it is....
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The biggest mistake when people go dabbling into conspiracy theories is that they assume that it's all a matter of "belief". This is because they are lazy to research further and then sit down and lend some thought to the matter. They prefer to jump to conclusions, often due to fear that whatever they are researching could be true.

I must say, only fools indulge in the category of belief

I have researched a lot as well and today I'm certain of a few things. I know a few things. When I'm not certain about something, I prefer not to comment. I don't "believe" in anything, except in myself and my own unified theory / model / understanding of Creation. It's the only thing I can rely upon.

The alien factor for example goes far beyond the category of belief and it has nothing to do with whether aliens exist or not. Another thing that most conspiracy researchers seem to lack is knowledge of metaphysics , spirituality and philosophy. Existence is ultimately a paradox. Mind and matter are not separate. The external world is a reflection of the inner world. The subconscious plays a role manifesting colelctive and individual realities. There are multiple dimensions / densities. Etc. Many examples could be presented here that will expand your mind far beyond simplistic black and white analogies such as "exist" vs "not exist". Just like Schroedinger's cat is simultaneously alive and dead, some things are not completely existent or non-existent.

Aliens are thought forms born from the collective unconscious of humanity at the same time that they are real tangible beings. This is the reason why increased awareness about UFOs and aliens is not to be taken independently from the actual appearance of UFOs and alien stories. One phenomenon fuels the manifestation of the other. There is no difference. That is why we are now at the brink of first contact or disclosure. The only indicator you must pay attention to is the masses' acceptance of the alien meme. The more acceptance, the more energy is put into manifesting an alien worldwide event.
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Who invited the voice of reason to GLP?
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The biggest mistake when people go dabbling into conspiracy theories is that they assume that it's all a matter of "belief". This is because they are lazy to research further and then sit down and lend some thought to the matter. They prefer to jump to conclusions, often due to fear that whatever they are researching could be true.

I must say, only fools indulge in the category of belief

I have researched a lot as well and today I'm certain of a few things. I know a few things. When I'm not certain about something, I prefer not to comment. I don't "believe" in anything, except in myself and my own unified theory / model / understanding of Creation. It's the only thing I can rely upon.

The alien factor for example goes far beyond the category of belief and it has nothing to do with whether aliens exist or not. Another thing that most conspiracy researchers seem to lack is knowledge of metaphysics , spirituality and philosophy. Existence is ultimately a paradox. Mind and matter are not separate. The external world is a reflection of the inner world. The subconscious plays a role manifesting colelctive and individual realities. There are multiple dimensions / densities. Etc. Many examples could be presented here that will expand your mind far beyond simplistic black and white analogies such as "exist" vs "not exist". Just like Schroedinger's cat is simultaneously alive and dead, some things are not completely existent or non-existent.

Aliens are thought forms born from the collective unconscious of humanity at the same time that they are real tangible beings. This is the reason why increased awareness about UFOs and aliens is not to be taken independently from the actual appearance of UFOs and alien stories. One phenomenon fuels the manifestation of the other. There is no difference. That is why we are now at the brink of first contact or disclosure. The only indicator you must pay attention to is the masses' acceptance of the alien meme. The more acceptance, the more energy is put into manifesting an alien worldwide event.
 Quoting: gus 1032049

That said, do they exist? Had to ask.
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You had me at "pussy doom".
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The alien factor for example goes far beyond the category of belief and it has nothing to do with whether aliens exist or not. Another thing that most conspiracy researchers seem to lack is knowledge of metaphysics , spirituality and philosophy. Existence is ultimately a paradox. Mind and matter are not separate. The external world is a reflection of the inner world. The subconscious plays a role manifesting colelctive and individual realities. There are multiple dimensions / densities. Etc. Many examples could be presented here that will expand your mind far beyond simplistic black and white analogies such as "exist" vs "not exist". Just like Schroedinger's cat is simultaneously alive and dead, some things are not completely existent or non-existent.

Aliens are thought forms born from the collective unconscious of humanity at the same time that they are real tangible beings. This is the reason why increased awareness about UFOs and aliens is not to be taken independently from the actual appearance of UFOs and alien stories. One phenomenon fuels the manifestation of the other. There is no difference. That is why we are now at the brink of first contact or disclosure. The only indicator you must pay attention to is the masses' acceptance of the alien meme. The more acceptance, the more energy is put into manifesting an alien worldwide event.
 Quoting: gus 1032049


Is this why my 8 year old son (that loves Ben 10 Alien Force and Star Wars) wakes me up in the middle of the night saying that there are aliens in his room? He says that they tickle him at night and he can only see one of them...the others are invisible. He said the invisible ones are the ones who tickle him and the one he can see gets beat up by the invisibles. I told him that he must be having nightmares...but he insists he is not and that it is real. He says the only way anyone can wake me up is to tickle me...and that is what they are doing.

When he comes in my room his face is full of fear....and I don't know what to tell him. He crawls in my bed because he is so scared. When he asks me if aliens are real...I tell him I don't know.

What makes it even worse is that on the same nights that my 10 year old is experiencing this, my 2 year old wakes up crying saying ....mommy...monsters...right there...and I see nothing. This is starting to get weird...
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When he comes in my room his face is full of fear....and I don't know what to tell him. He crawls in my bed because he is so scared. When he asks me if aliens are real...I tell him I don't know.

What makes it even worse is that on the same nights that my 10 year old is experiencing this, my 2 year old wakes up crying saying ....mommy...monsters...right there...and I see nothing. This is starting to get weird...
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This is VERY interesting . When I was a child I used to have a lot of STRANGE shit happening to me, including TICKLING by invisible entities and horrible nightmares for a child. Once I had a lucid dream in which I was on an operating table with greys around me. I tried to get up and I grabbed the arm of one of them. On that night I remember being very agitated, walking around the room with somnambulism, and I eventually woke up outside my bed in a difference corner of the room. It never occurred again.
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Why would you post a new thread, instead of just posting in his thread...

Do you really think your response is more important than everyone elses that you had to make your own thread to respond to his??
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The alien factor for example goes far beyond the category of belief and it has nothing to do with whether aliens exist or not. Another thing that most conspiracy researchers seem to lack is knowledge of metaphysics , spirituality and philosophy. Existence is ultimately a paradox. Mind and matter are not separate. The external world is a reflection of the inner world. The subconscious plays a role manifesting colelctive and individual realities. There are multiple dimensions / densities. Etc. Many examples could be presented here that will expand your mind far beyond simplistic black and white analogies such as "exist" vs "not exist". Just like Schroedinger's cat is simultaneously alive and dead, some things are not completely existent or non-existent.

Aliens are thought forms born from the collective unconscious of humanity at the same time that they are real tangible beings. This is the reason why increased awareness about UFOs and aliens is not to be taken independently from the actual appearance of UFOs and alien stories. One phenomenon fuels the manifestation of the other. There is no difference. That is why we are now at the brink of first contact or disclosure. The only indicator you must pay attention to is the masses' acceptance of the alien meme. The more acceptance, the more energy is put into manifesting an alien worldwide event.


Is this why my 8 year old son (that loves Ben 10 Alien Force and Star Wars) wakes me up in the middle of the night saying that there are aliens in his room? He says that they tickle him at night and he can only see one of them...the others are invisible. He said the invisible ones are the ones who tickle him and the one he can see gets beat up by the invisibles. I told him that he must be having nightmares...but he insists he is not and that it is real. He says the only way anyone can wake me up is to tickle me...and that is what they are doing.

When he comes in my room his face is full of fear....and I don't know what to tell him. He crawls in my bed because he is so scared. When he asks me if aliens are real...I tell him I don't know.

What makes it even worse is that on the same nights that my 10 year old is experiencing this, my 2 year old wakes up crying saying ....mommy...monsters...right there...and I see nothing. This is starting to get weird...
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I can't give you any advice in that situation other than to realize that yes, "they" are real. They likely have nothing to do with you or your family. Stay up with your children if you feel unsafe. I would tell my son or daughter that I would go to sleep with them and wait for "the monsters". Observe, and confirm sleep terrors or not.
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The biggest mistake when people go dabbling into conspiracy theories is that they assume that it's all a matter of "belief". This is because they are lazy to research further and then sit down and lend some thought to the matter. They prefer to jump to conclusions, often due to fear that whatever they are researching could be true.

I must say, only fools indulge in the category of belief

I have researched a lot as well and today I'm certain of a few things. I know a few things. When I'm not certain about something, I prefer not to comment. I don't "believe" in anything, except in myself and my own unified theory / model / understanding of Creation. It's the only thing I can rely upon.

The alien factor for example goes far beyond the category of belief and it has nothing to do with whether aliens exist or not. Another thing that most conspiracy researchers seem to lack is knowledge of metaphysics , spirituality and philosophy. Existence is ultimately a paradox. Mind and matter are not separate. The external world is a reflection of the inner world. The subconscious plays a role manifesting colelctive and individual realities. There are multiple dimensions / densities. Etc. Many examples could be presented here that will expand your mind far beyond simplistic black and white analogies such as "exist" vs "not exist". Just like Schroedinger's cat is simultaneously alive and dead, some things are not completely existent or non-existent.

Aliens are thought forms born from the collective unconscious of humanity at the same time that they are real tangible beings. This is the reason why increased awareness about UFOs and aliens is not to be taken independently from the actual appearance of UFOs and alien stories. One phenomenon fuels the manifestation of the other. There is no difference. That is why we are now at the brink of first contact or disclosure. The only indicator you must pay attention to is the masses' acceptance of the alien meme. The more acceptance, the more energy is put into manifesting an alien worldwide event.
 Quoting: gus 1032049


I have a thought form here with me that says you too are full of shit. What should I do?
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Why would you post a new thread, instead of just posting in his thread...

Do you really think your response is more important than everyone elses that you had to make your own thread to respond to his??
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Are you new here? After 20-30 or so pages of posts (or 5 for that matter), opinions get obscured and obfuscated. I thought it deserved a new page, regardless of my post. Trinity may not realize it yet, but forum posts have a limit of efficacy. If it goes beyond that, you end up with.... GLP?
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The biggest mistake when people go dabbling into conspiracy theories is that they assume that it's all a matter of "belief". This is because they are lazy to research further and then sit down and lend some thought to the matter. They prefer to jump to conclusions, often due to fear that whatever they are researching could be true.

I must say, only fools indulge in the category of belief

I have researched a lot as well and today I'm certain of a few things. I know a few things. When I'm not certain about something, I prefer not to comment. I don't "believe" in anything, except in myself and my own unified theory / model / understanding of Creation. It's the only thing I can rely upon.

The alien factor for example goes far beyond the category of belief and it has nothing to do with whether aliens exist or not. Another thing that most conspiracy researchers seem to lack is knowledge of metaphysics , spirituality and philosophy. Existence is ultimately a paradox. Mind and matter are not separate. The external world is a reflection of the inner world. The subconscious plays a role manifesting colelctive and individual realities. There are multiple dimensions / densities. Etc. Many examples could be presented here that will expand your mind far beyond simplistic black and white analogies such as "exist" vs "not exist". Just like Schroedinger's cat is simultaneously alive and dead, some things are not completely existent or non-existent.

Aliens are thought forms born from the collective unconscious of humanity at the same time that they are real tangible beings. This is the reason why increased awareness about UFOs and aliens is not to be taken independently from the actual appearance of UFOs and alien stories. One phenomenon fuels the manifestation of the other. There is no difference. That is why we are now at the brink of first contact or disclosure. The only indicator you must pay attention to is the masses' acceptance of the alien meme. The more acceptance, the more energy is put into manifesting an alien worldwide event.


I have a thought form here with me that says you too are full of shit. What should I do?
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LOL!
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When he comes in my room his face is full of fear....and I don't know what to tell him. He crawls in my bed because he is so scared. When he asks me if aliens are real...I tell him I don't know.

What makes it even worse is that on the same nights that my 10 year old is experiencing this, my 2 year old wakes up crying saying ....mommy...monsters...right there...and I see nothing. This is starting to get weird...


This is VERY interesting . When I was a child I used to have a lot of STRANGE shit happening to me, including TICKLING by invisible entities and horrible nightmares for a child. Once I had a lucid dream in which I was on an operating table with greys around me. I tried to get up and I grabbed the arm of one of them. On that night I remember being very agitated, walking around the room with somnambulism, and I eventually woke up outside my bed in a difference corner of the room. It never occurred again.
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The worst part is that I have memories of the bolded above....but don't want to scare my children
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Is this why my 8 year old son (that loves Ben 10 Alien Force and Star Wars) wakes me up in the middle of the night saying that there are aliens in his room? He says that they tickle him at night and he can only see one of them...the others are invisible. He said the invisible ones are the ones who tickle him and the one he can see gets beat up by the invisibles. I told him that he must be having nightmares...but he insists he is not and that it is real. He says the only way anyone can wake me up is to tickle me...and that is what they are doing.

When he comes in my room his face is full of fear....and I don't know what to tell him. He crawls in my bed because he is so scared. When he asks me if aliens are real...I tell him I don't know.

What makes it even worse is that on the same nights that my 10 year old is experiencing this, my 2 year old wakes up crying saying ....mommy...monsters...right there...and I see nothing. This is starting to get weird...
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Real?


Is your childrens' distress real?


----->Fix the problem.
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I can't give you any advice in that situation other than to realize that yes, "they" are real. They likely have nothing to do with you or your family. Stay up with your children if you feel unsafe. I would tell my son or daughter that I would go to sleep with them and wait for "the monsters". Observe, and confirm sleep terrors or not.
 Quoting: Silicon Jock


I also am one who "knows" they are real. I was just hoping my children would not realize it so soon. I do not feel unsafe...that is the thing. And I also do not think that they are here to harm my children either. I just do not understand what exactly is going on. It goes much further than what I have mentioned, but I would rather not ellaborate.

I am also one who believes in multidimensional beings. Whether you call them "ghosts" or "aliens" or "entities"....the fact is that they do exist.





GLP