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The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"

 
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The Hebrew word qodesh and the equivalent Greek word hagios, together with their derivatives, have been translated with one of three words, or derivatives, in our older English versions, namely: holy, hallowed, or sanctified. Another word is also used in modern versions, and generally in ecclesiastical literature, namely: sacred. Most of us have the idea that this word has the meaning of piety, or being pious, or to be devout. However, this conception is refuted when we read in Isa. 66:17 of the idolatrous people "who sanctify (qadash) themselves and purify themselves, to go to the gardens after an idol in the midst, eating swine's flesh and the abomination and the mouse ...." This refutation of the incorrect idea that "holy" means "to be pious", is further confirmed by the shocking discovery that one of the Hebrew words for a harlot (whore) is qedeshah, a derivative of qadash! Likewise, a male prostitute (or sodomite) is called a qadesh in Hebrew. This then causes us to seek for the real meaning of the word qodesh (its verb being qadash) and its Greek equivalent hagios. The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, vol. 2, p. 817, summarises what most authorities say about qodesh and hagios, ". . . the meaning of 'separation' is paramount ... the more elemental meaning seems to lie with 'separation'." The same dictionary, in vol. 4, p.210, says, "The basic sense of the Hebrew root qadash, as of its Greek equivalent in the Bible—hagios, seems to be 'separateness'." Likewise, Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words repeatedly emphasises the fact of the fundamental meaning of the word to be: "separation" (see under "holiness" and "sanctification"). With the discovery of the true meaning of this word, namely, separate and separation, we can now understand why qodesh is used in a positive sense, a good sense, and that it can equally be used in a negative and evil sense. Someone is, or something is separated unto Yahuweh, or he/it is separated unto evil. Thus, the word qodesh applies to both.
Why then, if the Hebrew word qodesh as well as the Greek hagios both mean "separation", why has the word "holy" been used instead? Is it possible that the father of all lies, the Great Deceiver, had cunningly proceeded with his master plan of bringing idolatrous worship into True Worship? Has the "Mystery Man" behind "Mystery of Lawlessness" and "Mystery Babylon" been active again? (see Jer. 16:19-21, Isa. 25:7, Isa. 30:28, Rev. 17:2,4,5, as well as 2 Thess. 2:7). Indeed, we do find evidence of his veiled, his hidden, his mysterious work. In The Oxford English Dictionary, vol. 5, p. 345, under "Holy", we read, ". . . the primitive pre-Christian meaning is uncertain . . . Its earlier application to heathen deities is found in ON [Old Norse]." Likewise, we read in the big Netherland's Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal, vol. 6, p. 455 (I translate), "An explanation of the original meaning, that makes it clear as to how this adjective has obtained the meaning of the Latin sanctus, has not yet been given — For speculations, see e.g. KLUGE, FRANCK AND MURRAY." But we did discover the origin of the word "holy". In G. Jobes, Dictionary of Mythology Folklore and Symbols, p. 781, we read, "HOLY: In practically all languages, the word for holy has been derived from the divinely honored sun." We found confirmation in Forlong's Encyclopedia of Religions, as follows, "HOLI: The Great Hindu spring festival .. . held in honour of Krishna, as the spring sun-god . . . a personified woman called Holi . . . Holi had tried to poison the babe Krishna ...." Further revealing evidence was yet to come. In Strong's Concordance, in the Greek Lexicon No. 1506, we found the following: "heile (the sun's ray)"—this is pronounced: heilei. This form is almost identical to the German and Dutch equivalent of the English "holy". The meaning of "halo", the ring on top of a saint's head, now became clear to us. And this was confirmed in J.C. Cooper, An Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Traditional Symbols, p. 112, "NIMBUS, HALO, or AUREOLE: Originally indicative of solar power and the sun's disk, hence an attribute of sun-gods."
The truth of this most disturbing find stunned us. We simply could not handle it. Gradually we came to understand. The Great Deceiver will not make the mistake of diverting the worship towards himself. By just diverting it to the innocent sun, Satan would succeed in his master plan by firstly veiling, and then bringing into the Temple the "wicked abomination", as Elohim had called this Sun-mixed worship (Eze. 8:9-16). It is well known how pictures of our Messiah, of Mary, and of a great number of saints were adorned with a sun-disc (nimbus), or halo, or sun-rays, thereby identifying him/her with the Sun-deity, or even only being taken as blessed by the Sun-deity. With the word "holy" being applied to the Spirit of Yahuweh, called in Hebrew Ruach ha Qodesh the enormous challenge was put to us: Can we continue to use the word "Holy Spirit"? Ruach ha Qodesh simply means: "The Spirit of Separation". Can we continue bringing homage to the Sun, once the truth has been revealed to us, and be found guilty of participating in the "wicked abominations" of Eze. 8:9-16?



Wow! Thanks Shamar! I knew Qodesh meant "set-apart" or separated, but I did not know what you shared about "holy". It all fits so perfectly well though...the Great Deception indeed!! Jerome's bible is not innocent mis-interpretation nor are those translated from it...the Mystery of Iniquity/Lawlessness is interwoven throughout.
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Wow! I deny the Trinity like the Jehovah Wintesses, Mormons,etc. but how cool Sharma.

I don't belong to a sect says Deborah, the cat's got my
tongue...I can give no proof of my denials.


way cool,
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Yup... A catholic brings scripture, history, meaning and fact, and what is it met with, Glp "Christians" pontificating about a name or half a verse. You "say" your former catholics, then make up stories why you will not answer the most basic questions, all the while lying about the faith. Sorry, but that is not how God rolls. NEVER would Christ or a follower lie and accuse in order to get their way.

You said that catholics do not worship mary, and by insinuation they do not pray TO mary. Yet I showed you where jpII did. You have no comments to that?



Your credibility is shot. I will pray for you. That is all I can do.

care to elaborate? How is my credibility shot?


I did pray for you. While saying a prayer for you' I was reminded of the parable with the two men praying. So I repented for my foolishness. I will try in the future to post only positive posts.


I understand that we are all a work in progress, but I am still curious as to how my credibility is shot with you....what are you referring to?



You will not post what Catholics believe in an honest manor. Truth in what we post is a must in this discussion. There can not be a dialog without honest representation of opposing views.
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Maybe I am not understanding. You are asking me to post what Catholics believe as to their understanding? I am not following why you are asking me to post that. And saying that my credibility is shot therefor. Why don't YOU post it, since it is what you believe. Sorry, i am just not following your logic.

Anyway, so why don't you respond regarding mary worship, and jp's very obvious practice of it, and declarations of it?
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????
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Is Mary "Omnipresent?"

well is she?


Back to "questions" to deflect from answering your
denial of the Bible...specifically Our Lord's words in
John 20:23.

Explain, how can someone hear your sins unless you confess
them? A personal confession to God of all your sins (mortal
included) cancels John 20:23. How is that?

Protestants protesting God's plan...that's how.



Because you know my answer. Yahuwshuwa say's if we can't forgive our brother we can't be forgiven. That is why we ask for forgiveness when we trespass against our brethren.

You will take that one verse out of context of course and wedge the word "priest" in the above like it belongs there.


Acts 2
38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Yahuwshuwa alone has been given this authority to forgive sin not man.

Where does peter set up a confessional in Acts?
So that he may know everybody's dirty laundry?
Their dirty little secrets?



Once again the RCC implies.


I disagree with you and you know that.

So,

Is Mary Omnipresent?
You should be about 30 minutes into your web search to find out what the RCC says...


The Protestant tactic. I asked you to specifically explain
John 20:23. And you still haven't. Always going somewhere
else.

You're so juvenile in your replies. Where is the "Bible
Alone" in Scripture? Sharmar can't give the verse, no
Protestant can because it's not true. There is the oral
tradition of the Apostles passed down besides the written
Word. There is more to God's revelation, try to understand. This is where you will find discipline of the confessional. Mock the confessional. You can't...once again...explain John 20:23?

Lame and childish.

How can someone forgive your sins, if they don't hear them
first YAH Stone?
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I've answered your questions. You think your lawyer tactics will sway the obvious truths on what we are saying?
People are leaving Babylon even as we speak.

You try to tie up the very scripture in romanzied theologies
by taking ONE VERSE and IMPLYING that that was what "Jesus" was referring to.

I see what you do.

Sola Sciptura?

Matthew 4
4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


John 17
12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


Our High Priest Quotes Scripture

The Ethiopian Eunuch read Isaiah

Are you trying to fear people for standing on the word?

Is Mary Omnipresent?
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????
 Quoting: Rev. Stargazer

It is also their method of seduction, children and females.
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????
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Your explanation for John 20:23? Brilliant Rev.

Such a childish foolish explanation.
A priest doesn't share the sins he hears. You're always
showing your Protestant side. All the Hebrew terms are a cover.
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????


Your explanation for John 20:23? Brilliant Rev.

Such a childish foolish explanation.
A priest doesn't share the sins he hears. You're always
showing your Protestant side. All the Hebrew terms are a cover.
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You might like to hear the testimonies of the victims. Former nuns AND priests included.
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Until you can explain all your denials with something other
than saying the Holy Trinity isn't so or childishly professing the Apostles got together and shared their writings...poof..the Bible!

You are going to be call on it.

How could anyone foolishly believe that the first Christians
would get it wrong, that the Apostles...John the Beloved
Apostle and all of the others...even Paul! His conversion
didn't happen as written in Scripture. Nonsense threads
at GLP.

You know better, 20 centuries later, right!! No, how foolish. Jesus wants everyone to believe the same Deborah, He said it. Come out of your personalized sect. Jesus wants you to believe in the Holy Eucharist. His gift to us all.

You can become Roman Catholic...your pride is stopping
you.
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I know the Apostles and the early set-apart assembly didn't get it wrong. What I am saying is that Rome DID get it wrong. Haha...you say "even Paul"...you have no idea what Sha'ul is saying in any of his letters, do you?

You use that word "foolish" quite often, yram. You should read what YHWShA said about calling someone a fool.

Yes. 20 centuries later, I do know better than to join myself to the Harlot. Unbelievable, isn't it? Personalized sect? Haha...nope. I know many, many more, and not just here on good ole GLP...we are EVERYWHERE.

Your "Halo Body and Blood Feast" has zero, zilch, nada to do with YHWShA. Why would I want to partake in a pagan ritual in violation of YHWH's Torah?

Nope. It is impossible for me to ever become Roman Catholic. I have been set-apart and sealed against such pagan religiosity. Your request for my attendance has been declined. You will have to suffer the consequences without me, yram. Pride? No. A humble and contrite heart before YHWH? Yes.
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????

It is also their method of seduction, children and females.
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You nor YAH S. can explain John 20:23 so you post idiot
and blasphemous replies. You will stand before Christ foolish
woman.

God set up a means for us to stay in the state of grace
and you deny it. Never giving proof of your Protestant
Martin Luther from his mind "Sola Scriptura."

You fail.
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????


Your explanation for John 20:23? Brilliant Rev.

Such a childish foolish explanation.
A priest doesn't share the sins he hears. You're always
showing your Protestant side. All the Hebrew terms are a cover.

You might like to hear the testimonies of the victims. Former nuns AND priests included.
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Just like it would be foolish for a man or woman to "confess" to one another that they have been lusting for each other.

How many priest were like a hot iron when hearing explicit stories via confession.

But they have to stand on that because its the Papacy they defend even though the Papacy has changed their story time and time.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????

It is also their method of seduction, children and females.


You nor YAH S. can explain John 20:23 so you post idiot
and blasphemous replies. You will stand before Christ foolish
woman.

God set up a means for us to stay in the state of grace
and you deny it. Never giving proof of your Protestant
Martin Luther from his mind "Sola Scriptura."

You fail.
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Is Mary omnipresent?
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????

It is also their method of seduction, children and females.


You nor YAH S. can explain John 20:23 so you post idiot
and blasphemous replies. You will stand before Christ foolish
woman.

God set up a means for us to stay in the state of grace
and you deny it. Never giving proof of your Protestant
Martin Luther from his mind "Sola Scriptura."

You fail.
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Once again one verse you take and turn it into a dogma without reading the testimony of the other saints you nullify their words and the words of the LAMB.

It is he who forgive sins. Not a priest that can be thrown into lust hearing the confessions of people who have not trespassed against him.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.
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There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????

It is also their method of seduction, children and females.


You nor YAH S. can explain John 20:23 so you post idiot
and blasphemous replies. You will stand before Christ foolish
woman.

God set up a means for us to stay in the state of grace
and you deny it. Never giving proof of your Protestant
Martin Luther from his mind "Sola Scriptura."

You fail.
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Joh 20:18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Joh 20:20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
Joh 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
Joh 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.


He wasn't talking to just the (11 at that time) Apostles, it says disciples and Mary Magdalene as well. He was talking about YOU, ME, ALL of us.

Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.


Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

So, is the 'Lord's Prayer' only for priests as well????
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Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.
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What? You guys going to start up a new Inquisition and start torturing and murdering again?
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Wow! Thanks Shamar! I knew Qodesh meant "set-apart" or separated, but I did not know what you shared about "holy". It all fits so perfectly well though...the Great Deception indeed!! Jerome's bible is not innocent mis-interpretation nor are those translated from it...the Mystery of Iniquity/Lawlessness is interwoven throughout.


Wow! I deny the Trinity like the Jehovah Wintesses, Mormons,etc. but how cool Sharma.

I don't belong to a sect says Deborah, the cat's got my
tongue...I can give no proof of my denials.


way cool,
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Yes, the trinity as taught by Rome is a lie.

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH our Elohim YHWH is one:

Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love YHWH thy Elohim with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Mar 12:29 And YHWShA answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; YHWH our Elohim, YHWH is one:

Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love YHWH thy Elohim with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy understanding, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

YHWShA verified that YHWH is ONE. ONE. ONE. Did you get that? ONE.

Just like a Romish Pharisee of you to continually refer to me and those like me as a "sect". Same accusations laid against the Apostles. Thanks for that, actually. I am humbly honored.
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Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.
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I cannot recall where any of us have denied that you have "a reason" for anything and everything you do. We just recognize those reasons are not Scriptural.

Why again do you adhere to the sacraments of the church and refuse the commandments of the King?
The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation.
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Until you can explain all your denials with something other
than saying the Holy Trinity isn't so or childishly professing the Apostles got together and shared their writings...poof..the Bible!

You are going to be call on it.

How could anyone foolishly believe that the first Christians
would get it wrong, that the Apostles...John the Beloved
Apostle and all of the others...even Paul! His conversion
didn't happen as written in Scripture. Nonsense threads
at GLP.

You know better, 20 centuries later, right!! No, how foolish. Jesus wants everyone to believe the same Deborah, He said it. Come out of your personalized sect. Jesus wants you to believe in the Holy Eucharist. His gift to us all.

You can become Roman Catholic...your pride is stopping
you.


I know the Apostles and the early set-apart assembly didn't get it wrong. What I am saying is that Rome DID get it wrong. Haha...you say "even Paul"...you have no idea what Sha'ul is saying in any of his letters, do you?

You use that word "foolish" quite often, yram. You should read what YHWShA said about calling someone a fool.

Yes. 20 centuries later, I do know better than to join myself to the Harlot. Unbelievable, isn't it? Personalized sect? Haha...nope. I know many, many more, and not just here on good ole GLP...we are EVERYWHERE.

Your "Halo Body and Blood Feast" has zero, zilch, nada to do with YHWShA.
Why would I want to partake in a pagan ritual in violation of YHWH's Torah?

Nope. It is impossible for me to ever become Roman Catholic. I have been set-apart and sealed against such pagan religiosity. Your request for my attendance has been declined. You will have to suffer the consequences without me, yram. Pride? No. A humble and contrite heart before YHWH? Yes.
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Just because there are many sects is no reason to stay in
them....

Is "yram" a kind word? Or something negative? Posting
Old Testament terms doesn't mean a thing for your soul,
it's about grace. God's grace in your soul.

"Fool" is what any prideful person is who belongs to a sect and much more Christian than the vulgarity you've used in the past. How do you contain yourself now? Messianics like the -f- word, if they don't use it themselves, they praise the people who do. Proof is on your Messianic threads. They don't use the -f- word in Heaven Deborah. Why using holier than thou Old Testament terms is hypocritical.

Explain, how is what the first Christians, the Apostles
taught different from what the Church teaches? Give proof.

You are the one going away with your non-Christian and heretical beliefs. The Eucharist is no where in the Torah. You fall down with your denial of the New Covenant.

For a sect who denies the New Covenant, you all spend a lot
of time quoting it and at the same time start threads to deny it. Strange. You can never keep your mixed up beliefs straight.

And share with Scripture and/or oral teachings from the Apostles, explain your denials of the most basic teachings of Christ? The Blessed Trinity is true. How dare you mock the Eucharist and Paul. Like you would know better!! Who determined the Canon Deborah? Several sects deny the Blessed Trinity. Why did you join this one, Messianics? I bet I know, it's easier. No requirements.

Your replies...all you Messianics, you end up looking so
ignorant, that's it. And shame on the fallen away Catholics
who have joined you.

Explain John 20:23. Where did the Bible come from? Why
does Jesus speak of God the Holy Spirit in the Gospel?
Where is "Bible Alone" in Scripture?
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Re: The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"
Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1149900

now you are posting nothing but accusations just like yram....accusing, and not answering questions posted to you. Difficult to have an *honest* discussion when it is only one sided.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami

Love is a one-way street.
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Re: The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"
Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.



I cannot recall where any of us have denied that you have "a reason" for anything and everything you do. We just recognize those reasons are not Scriptural.

Why again do you adhere to the sacraments of the church and refuse the commandments of the King?
 Quoting: PalmOfDeborah


I know this isn't directed to me but Deborah or Rev., one
of the Messianics denied Jesus is King of Heaven and earth,
they denied He is physical King...who can figure? Deborah,
whoever said Jesus is only a spiritual King. Jesus has two natures, He is God and Man!

And now Deborah calls Our Lord King here. They are always
stepping over...really falling over their own statements. Why? Messianics follow the heretical beliefs of Protestantism and some of the falsehoods in Judaism and what comes of it...a sect...somehow by ridiculously mixing the two!
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Re: The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"
Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.



What? You guys going to start up a new Inquisition and start torturing and murdering again?
 Quoting: Rev. Stargazer

yram has already said this is so....however, according to HER, the GREAT WARNING will take place first, causing many non-catholics to run and embrace roman Catholicism and the *holy eucharist*.......... those who don't, will be butchered.

interesting, eh?
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami

Love is a one-way street.
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Re: The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"
Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.
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Thinking thats the only reason for this whole thread. Just read some of it today..The Antichrist was no shown to any one.. it was not his time then.
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Is Mary "Omnipresent?"

well is she?


Back to "questions" to deflect from answering your
denial of the Bible...specifically Our Lord's words in
John 20:23.

Explain, how can someone hear your sins unless you confess
them? A personal confession to God of all your sins (mortal
included) cancels John 20:23. How is that?

Protestants protesting God's plan...that's how.



Because you know my answer. Yahuwshuwa say's if we can't forgive our brother we can't be forgiven. That is why we ask for forgiveness when we trespass against our brethren.

You will take that one verse out of context of course and wedge the word "priest" in the above like it belongs there.


Acts 2
38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Yahuwshuwa alone has been given this authority to forgive sin not man.

Where does peter set up a confessional in Acts?
So that he may know everybody's dirty laundry?
Their dirty little secrets?



Once again the RCC implies.


I disagree with you and you know that.

So,

Is Mary Omnipresent?
You should be about 30 minutes into your web search to find out what the RCC says...


The Protestant tactic. I asked you to specifically explain
John 20:23. And you still haven't. Always going somewhere
else.

You're so juvenile in your replies. Where is the "Bible
Alone" in Scripture? Sharmar can't give the verse, no
Protestant can because it's not true. There is the oral
tradition of the Apostles passed down besides the written
Word. There is more to God's revelation, try to understand. This is where you will find discipline of the confessional. Mock the confessional. You can't...once again...explain John 20:23?

Lame and childish.

How can someone forgive your sins, if they don't hear them
first YAH Stone?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I've answered your questions. You think your lawyer tactics will sway the obvious truths on what we are saying?
People are leaving Babylon even as we speak.

You try to tie up the very scripture in romanzied theologies
by taking ONE VERSE and IMPLYING that that was what "Jesus" was referring to.

I see what you do.

Sola Sciptura?

Matthew 4
4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


John 17
12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


Our High Priest Quotes Scripture

The Ethiopian Eunuch read Isaiah

Are you trying to fear people for standing on the word?

Is Mary Omnipresent?
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


YAH Stone uses to somehow give and answer to John 20:23.
Matthew 4 has nothing to do with John 20:23 and YAH S
misinterprets Matthew 4 on it's own. PIOS is a joke.

"Matthew 4
4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

"Baby Christian" if that, if you deny the Trinity Y. Stone. God's Word is oral and written. What did the first Christians do before the the Bible was compiled in the 4th century Yah? There is more, why you can't remain Protestant
in your belief.
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Re: The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"
Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.

Thinking thats the only reason for this whole thread. Just read some of it today..The Antichrist was no shown to any one.. it was not his time then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1151152



Says you?


Mary is coming.
Do not commit fornication with her.

We sit and wait...

tick tock...
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Is Mary "Omnipresent?"

well is she?


Back to "questions" to deflect from answering your
denial of the Bible...specifically Our Lord's words in
John 20:23.

Explain, how can someone hear your sins unless you confess
them? A personal confession to God of all your sins (mortal
included) cancels John 20:23. How is that?

Protestants protesting God's plan...that's how.



Because you know my answer. Yahuwshuwa say's if we can't forgive our brother we can't be forgiven. That is why we ask for forgiveness when we trespass against our brethren.

You will take that one verse out of context of course and wedge the word "priest" in the above like it belongs there.


Acts 2
38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Yahuwshuwa alone has been given this authority to forgive sin not man.

Where does peter set up a confessional in Acts?
So that he may know everybody's dirty laundry?
Their dirty little secrets?



Once again the RCC implies.


I disagree with you and you know that.

So,

Is Mary Omnipresent?
You should be about 30 minutes into your web search to find out what the RCC says...


The Protestant tactic. I asked you to specifically explain
John 20:23. And you still haven't. Always going somewhere
else.

You're so juvenile in your replies. Where is the "Bible
Alone" in Scripture? Sharmar can't give the verse, no
Protestant can because it's not true. There is the oral
tradition of the Apostles passed down besides the written
Word. There is more to God's revelation, try to understand. This is where you will find discipline of the confessional. Mock the confessional. You can't...once again...explain John 20:23?

Lame and childish.

How can someone forgive your sins, if they don't hear them
first YAH Stone?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I've answered your questions. You think your lawyer tactics will sway the obvious truths on what we are saying?
People are leaving Babylon even as we speak.

You try to tie up the very scripture in romanzied theologies
by taking ONE VERSE and IMPLYING that that was what "Jesus" was referring to.

I see what you do.

Sola Sciptura?

Matthew 4
4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


John 17
12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


Our High Priest Quotes Scripture

The Ethiopian Eunuch read Isaiah

Are you trying to fear people for standing on the word?

Is Mary Omnipresent?


YAH Stone uses to somehow give and answer to John 20:23.
Matthew 4 has nothing to do with John 20:23 and YAH S
misinterprets Matthew 4 on it's own. PIOS is a joke.

"Matthew 4
4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

"Baby Christian" if that, if you deny the Trinity Y. Stone. God's Word is oral and written. What did the first Christians do before the the Bible was compiled in the 4th century Yah? There is more, why you can't remain Protestant
in your belief.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145321



More lawyer babble. I gave you my answer. You don't agree with it? Fine.

Is Mary Omnipresent?

Well is She?
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Re: The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"
Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.

Thinking thats the only reason for this whole thread. Just read some of it today..The Antichrist was no shown to any one.. it was not his time then.



Says you?


Mary is coming.
Do not commit fornication with her.

We sit and wait...

tick tock...
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


Says the convicted bitter fallen away Catholic with the street
sign Babylon fallen down avatar.

YAH Stone, wake up. Babylon is a place not the Church
you left. You never get any of Scripture correct. Why.
Private interpretation of Scripture.
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Interesting.

You ask for a reply regarding John 20:23.

I give it and it's ignored.

Perhaps you're only baiting and don't really care about an answer.



There's only one reason the RCC created the doctrine of confession to priests -

BLACKMAIL

how else do you think they have been able to control Kings, Queens and world leaders for so many years????

It is also their method of seduction, children and females.


You nor YAH S. can explain John 20:23 so you post idiot
and blasphemous replies. You will stand before Christ foolish
woman.

God set up a means for us to stay in the state of grace
and you deny it. Never giving proof of your Protestant
Martin Luther from his mind "Sola Scriptura."

You fail.



Joh 20:18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Joh 20:20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
Joh 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
Joh 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.


He wasn't talking to just the (11 at that time) Apostles, it says disciples and Mary Magdalene as well. He was talking about YOU, ME, ALL of us.

Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.


Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

So, is the 'Lord's Prayer' only for priests as well????
 Quoting: Rev. Stargazer

"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein

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Re: The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"
Because you and others make false accusations about Catholics and never acknowledge there is a reason for anything we do. Your hate for the church will not end well my brother.

Thinking thats the only reason for this whole thread. Just read some of it today..The Antichrist was no shown to any one.. it was not his time then.



Says you?


Mary is coming.
Do not commit fornication with her.

We sit and wait...

tick tock...


Says the convicted bitter fallen away Catholic with the street
sign Babylon fallen down avatar.

YAH Stone, wake up. Babylon is a place not the Church
you left. You never get any of Scripture correct. Why.
Private interpretation of Scripture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145321



Ok we obviously disagree.
Lets say I'm totally wrong.
Is Mary omnipresent?
How can she hear the prayers of millions of believers at the same time?
Preach to me the gospel of your Mary.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Interesting.

You ask for a reply regarding John 20:23.

I give it and it's ignored.

Perhaps you're only baiting and don't really care about an answer.


 Quoting: Rev. Stargazer



She doesn't.
The whole aim to continually accuse you of avoiding the questions to make it look like you can't provide an answer.
This is to make her look like the teacher and you the student.
I have given her answer after answer and she broadcasts the same accusation tirelessly.
Lawyer tactics to sway people from seeing the message.

Like this one:

Is Mary Omnipresent?
How long have I been asking?
She won't answer and turns around accuses me of not answering her. But if you look back you will see my answer. Thus tying up the thread in litigation to look like she's an authority.

Cunning.

Last Edited by YAH Stone Massive! on 11/03/2010 06:10 PM
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Is Mary "Omnipresent?"

well is she?


Back to "questions" to deflect from answering your
denial of the Bible...specifically Our Lord's words in
John 20:23.

Explain, how can someone hear your sins unless you confess
them? A personal confession to God of all your sins (mortal
included) cancels John 20:23. How is that?

Protestants protesting God's plan...that's how.



Because you know my answer. Yahuwshuwa say's if we can't forgive our brother we can't be forgiven. That is why we ask for forgiveness when we trespass against our brethren.

You will take that one verse out of context of course and wedge the word "priest" in the above like it belongs there.


Acts 2
38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Yahuwshuwa alone has been given this authority to forgive sin not man.

Where does peter set up a confessional in Acts?
So that he may know everybody's dirty laundry?
Their dirty little secrets?



Once again the RCC implies.


I disagree with you and you know that.

So,

Is Mary Omnipresent?
You should be about 30 minutes into your web search to find out what the RCC says...


The Protestant tactic. I asked you to specifically explain
John 20:23. And you still haven't. Always going somewhere
else.

You're so juvenile in your replies. Where is the "Bible
Alone" in Scripture? Sharmar can't give the verse, no
Protestant can because it's not true. There is the oral
tradition of the Apostles passed down besides the written
Word. There is more to God's revelation, try to understand. This is where you will find discipline of the confessional. Mock the confessional. You can't...once again...explain John 20:23?

Lame and childish.

How can someone forgive your sins, if they don't hear them
first YAH Stone?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I've answered your questions. You think your lawyer tactics will sway the obvious truths on what we are saying?
People are leaving Babylon even as we speak.

You try to tie up the very scripture in romanzied theologies
by taking ONE VERSE and IMPLYING that that was what "Jesus" was referring to.

I see what you do.

Sola Sciptura?

Matthew 4
4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


John 17
12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


Our High Priest Quotes Scripture

The Ethiopian Eunuch read Isaiah

Are you trying to fear people for standing on the word?

Is Mary Omnipresent?


YAH Stone uses to somehow give and answer to John 20:23.
Matthew 4 has nothing to do with John 20:23 and YAH S
misinterprets Matthew 4 on it's own. PIOS is a joke.

"Matthew 4
4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

"Baby Christian" if that, if you deny the Trinity Y. Stone. God's Word is oral and written. What did the first Christians do before the the Bible was compiled in the 4th century Yah? There is more, why you can't remain Protestant
in your belief.



More lawyer babble. I gave you my answer. You don't agree with it? Fine.

Is Mary Omnipresent?

Well is She?
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


You can't answer the simplest of questions so you repeat
new ones. Explain, how can you forgive someone's sins unless you first hear them? Jesus said..."whose sins you
shall forgive, they are forgiven."

You're the one denying there is more to God's revelation
than Scripture by posting the verses you did to justify
the false doctrine, Bible Alone. Still didn't answer John 20:23.

YAH follows Martin Luther not God proving he is...Protestant all the while pretending to be something else.

And another question you ignored. If the Bible Alone is
true, all of God's revelation is in Scripture. What did
the first Christians do from 33 A.D. till the 4th century?

It's called the "oral teachings" passed down from the
Apostles....YAH S.





GLP