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Is nonconformity and freethinking a mental illness? According to the newest addition of the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), it certainly is. The manual identifies a new mental illness called “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD. Defined as an “ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior,” symptoms include questioning authority, negativity, defiance, argumentativeness, and being easily annoyed.

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This is why the Ottoman Empire did not allow jews to practice medicine.
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now political dissidents can be thrown in mental hospitals against their will

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fighting it would just make the diagnosis easier
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Oct 8th, 2010

Is nonconformity and freethinking a mental illness? According to the newest addition of the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), it certainly is. The manual identifies a new mental illness called “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD. Defined as an “ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior,” symptoms include questioning corruption, living in reality, standing up for yourself, asking questions, and standing up for your rights.

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One more reason to be defiant. Thanks.
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They've prolly developed a new drug and need to create a disease, so that they can force people to pay for it.


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fighting it would just make the diagnosis easier
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I've read a little about it. I'm pretty sure this is gonna be used against children the most. Not good. Just another excuse to get them into the system and pharmacopoeia.
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Tuesday, March 02, 2010
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

(NaturalNews) The Disease Mongering Engine, which I invented a couple of years ago and posted on NaturalNews, was initially created as a joke to demonstrate the ridiculousness of the fictitious diseases that are constantly created by the psychiatric industry. This hilarious online disease generator ( [link to www.naturalnews.com] allows you to instantly create your own fictitious diseases and disorders such as:

• Repetitive Dysmorphic Nose Picking Disorder With Itching (RDNPDWI)
• Oppositional Disorganized Speaking Disorder With Indigestion (ODSDWI)
• Chronic Bipolar Anticipation Dysfunction With Smelly Feet (CBADWSF)

... and so on.

Here's the bizarre part: All of a sudden, the new psychiatric diagnostic manual (DSM-V) appears to have adopted as medical fact many of the disorders that were created by the Disease Mongering Engine!

[link to www.naturalnews.com]
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This is why the Ottoman Empire did not allow jews to practice medicine.
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bump
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This is why the Ottoman Empire did not allow jews to practice medicine.
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Best fucking post. Ever.
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Tuesday, March 02, 2010
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

(NaturalNews) The Disease Mongering Engine, which I invented a couple of years ago and posted on NaturalNews, was initially created as a joke to demonstrate the ridiculousness of the fictitious diseases that are constantly created by the psychiatric industry. This hilarious online disease generator ( [link to www.naturalnews.com] allows you to instantly create your own fictitious diseases and disorders such as:

• Repetitive Dysmorphic Nose Picking Disorder With Itching (RDNPDWI)
• Oppositional Disorganized Speaking Disorder With Indigestion (ODSDWI)
• Chronic Bipolar Anticipation Dysfunction With Smelly Feet (CBADWSF)

... and so on.

Here's the bizarre part: All of a sudden, the new psychiatric diagnostic manual (DSM-V) appears to have adopted as medical fact many of the disorders that were created by the Disease Mongering Engine!

[link to www.naturalnews.com]
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from the same article..

Another new disease is "Oppositional Defiant Disorder" (ODD), which includes anyone who disagrees with authority. All those who are skeptical about the safety of vaccines, for example, are about to be diagnosed with ODD.
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This is why the Ottoman Empire did not allow jews to practice medicine.


Best fucking post. Ever.
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imao the ILLUMINATI run the NWO..need a link for that homie?
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I think pretty much everyone here qualifies.

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haha question authority? fuck all outside authority. I am already the highest authority in my universe.

There was a time when I used to try to "argue" ... but now, you see, there is nothing left to argue. You should simply remain silent; you should remain within the boundaries of your personal space and integrity. Don't buy into the "game" of argumentation, because that is when they start labeling you as "crazy", "insane". They want you to show "disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior" because then they can turn the focus and speculation on you.

People should simply respect each other's freedom of being. Either the person understands that freedom is an absolute concept or not. If your space / freedom is violated, kill the trespasser. If you can't kill it, fight until death. Death of the body is far less important than maintenance of freedom.

I no longer wish to act like a rebel or revolutionary. This is for newbies into this conspiracy field who are angry with the black-hearted NWO. As you evolve out of this mess of conflicting emotions, you'll learn not to give a fuck anymore. Fuck NWO. It's not that I wish to rebel against authority and/or defy the status quo. I could not care less about all these people and their stupid games of power. It simply does not interest me. Nobody will ever change or destroy the current System. Instead, the System will eventually self-destruct. Therefore, if people come around me trying to get me to play one of their social-matrix games, first thing I say is "I'm not interested. leave me alone", and if they don't stop next thing I say is "are you prepared to take my life over it?" Simple as that.

If you are a free-thinking individual , the sole purpose of almost everything out there is to enslave your mind. People will try to drag you inside their cells. Most are not even aware they are doing this to you. It is simply their mind patterns operating against you. You see, it's a mental game. People try to speculate over your person so that you will submit to one of their whims. They also use fear against you. Pay attention to their words... it's their most important tool as well as their weakest spot. Find out the absolute meaning behind a word and attack it. For example, 90% of people will read the sentence "questioning authority" and won't even realize the implications of it. What does "authority" means in that sentence? It means that it's expected of you to accept that someone has AUTHORSHIP over your life. You should not even question this... it's just a "fact of life" as they say. You are born and automatically you should defer authority over your life to someone else.
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39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
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Thats what they want a bunch of mindless sheep.

Line up and take your mercury laden,swine virus vaccine,that was incubated on aborted fetuses.


yum where do I sign up.
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haha question authority? fuck all outside authority. I am already the highest authority in my universe.

There was a time when I used to try to "argue" ... but now, you see, there is nothing left to argue. You should simply remain silent; you should remain within the boundaries of your personal space and integrity. Don't buy into the "game" of argumentation, because that is when they start labeling you as "crazy", "insane". They want you to show "disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior" because then they can turn the focus and speculation on you.

People should simply respect each other's freedom of being. Either the person understands that freedom is an absolute concept or not. If your space / freedom is violated, kill the trespasser. If you can't kill it, fight until death. Death of the body is far less important than maintenance of freedom.

I no longer wish to act like a rebel or revolutionary. This is for newbies into this conspiracy field who are angry with the black-hearted NWO. As you evolve out of this mess of conflicting emotions, you'll learn not to give a fuck anymore. Fuck NWO. It's not that I wish to rebel against authority and/or defy the status quo. I could not care less about all these people and their stupid games of power. It simply does not interest me. Nobody will ever change or destroy the current System. Instead, the System will eventually self-destruct. Therefore, if people come around me trying to get me to play one of their social-matrix games, first thing I say is "I'm not interested. leave me alone", and if they don't stop next thing I say is "are you prepared to take my life over it?" Simple as that.

If you are a free-thinking individual , the sole purpose of almost everything out there is to enslave your mind. People will try to drag you inside their cells. Most are not even aware they are doing this to you. It is simply their mind patterns operating against you. You see, it's a mental game. People try to speculate over your person so that you will submit to one of their whims. They also use fear against you. Pay attention to their words... it's their most important tool as well as their weakest spot. Find out the absolute meaning behind a word and attack it. For example, 90% of people will read the sentence "questioning authority" and won't even realize the implications of it. What does "authority" means in that sentence? It means that it's expected of you to accept that someone has AUTHORSHIP over your life. You should not even question this... it's just a "fact of life" as they say. You are born and automatically you should defer authority over your life to someone else.
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Well put.

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Be a good citizen and conform, or else we'll lobotomize you, got it?!
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ODD is not an adult disorder but related to children who usually come from impoverished backgrounds that predispose them to offending behaviour and psychopathy. If a child is diagnosed with ODD by a psychiatrist here in Australia, they are targeted for early intervention (read removal from deadbeat parents). If you saw a kid with odd, you would want to control them, believe me. It is not a diagnosis psychiatrists employ on a whim as using it has enormous implications for a child...
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Tuesday, March 02, 2010
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

(NaturalNews) The Disease Mongering Engine, which I invented a couple of years ago and posted on NaturalNews, was initially created as a joke to demonstrate the ridiculousness of the fictitious diseases that are constantly created by the psychiatric industry. This hilarious online disease generator ( [link to www.naturalnews.com] allows you to instantly create your own fictitious diseases and disorders such as:

• Repetitive Dysmorphic Nose Picking Disorder With Itching (RDNPDWI)
• Oppositional Disorganized Speaking Disorder With Indigestion (ODSDWI)
• Chronic Bipolar Anticipation Dysfunction With Smelly Feet (CBADWSF)

... and so on.

Here's the bizarre part: All of a sudden, the new psychiatric diagnostic manual (DSM-V) appears to have adopted as medical fact many of the disorders that were created by the Disease Mongering Engine!

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

from the same article..

Another new disease is "Oppositional Defiant Disorder" (ODD), which includes anyone who disagrees with authority. All those who are skeptical about the safety of vaccines, for example, are about to be diagnosed with ODD.
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This is fucking ridiculous!

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haha question authority? fuck all outside authority. I am already the highest authority in my universe.

There was a time when I used to try to "argue" ... but now, you see, there is nothing left to argue. You should simply remain silent; you should remain within the boundaries of your personal space and integrity. Don't buy into the "game" of argumentation, because that is when they start labeling you as "crazy", "insane". They want you to show "disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior" because then they can turn the focus and speculation on you.

People should simply respect each other's freedom of being. Either the person understands that freedom is an absolute concept or not. If your space / freedom is violated, kill the trespasser. If you can't kill it, fight until death. Death of the body is far less important than maintenance of freedom.

I no longer wish to act like a rebel or revolutionary. This is for newbies into this conspiracy field who are angry with the black-hearted NWO. As you evolve out of this mess of conflicting emotions, you'll learn not to give a fuck anymore. Fuck NWO. It's not that I wish to rebel against authority and/or defy the status quo. I could not care less about all these people and their stupid games of power. It simply does not interest me. Nobody will ever change or destroy the current System. Instead, the System will eventually self-destruct. Therefore, if people come around me trying to get me to play one of their social-matrix games, first thing I say is "I'm not interested. leave me alone", and if they don't stop next thing I say is "are you prepared to take my life over it?" Simple as that.

If you are a free-thinking individual , the sole purpose of almost everything out there is to enslave your mind. People will try to drag you inside their cells. Most are not even aware they are doing this to you. It is simply their mind patterns operating against you. You see, it's a mental game. People try to speculate over your person so that you will submit to one of their whims. They also use fear against you. Pay attention to their words... it's their most important tool as well as their weakest spot. Find out the absolute meaning behind a word and attack it. For example, 90% of people will read the sentence "questioning authority" and won't even realize the implications of it. What does "authority" means in that sentence? It means that it's expected of you to accept that someone has AUTHORSHIP over your life. You should not even question this... it's just a "fact of life" as they say. You are born and automatically you should defer authority over your life to someone else.
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Hear! Hear! Very well stated, Gus.
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Welcome to the Brave New World!
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They've prolly developed a new drug and need to create a disease, so that they can force people to pay for it.


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Wake up Ahole; DSM4 is used around the whole planet!
Don´t you see the Americans are taking everything with them in this cesspool?

By the way,the whole of psychiatry has been debunked lately.
Don´t remember by whom and how though.
It´s time to lock up those shrinks themselves.
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This is nothing new. Don't understand why it's pinned. Oppositional Defiant Disorder has been an official psychiatric diagnosis since at least the DSM IV.
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Have they put out the DSMV yet? These diagnostic and statistical manuals just keep getting thicker as they dream up evermore made up psychiatriac disorders. Meanwhile, bigPharma celebrates this madness.
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Be a good citizen and conform, or else we'll lobotomize you, got it?!
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please please don't stick a wire in my head

I need my brain for thinking and stuff mmmkay!
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I wasn't going to comment on this but now that it is pinned...

The DSM is a manual that creates a vocabulary and classification system that can be used for communication between therapists and to create a theoretical framework around which to do research... in essence, it is meant to reify the sometimes ineffable nature of psychiatric illnesses.

Regrettably... it has become a handbook for the pharma industry to lable their products for human consumption.

On top of this, most psychiatrists are 1) bad researchers 2) bad scientists 3) bad therapists.

When you add on top of that the general misunderstanding amongst people of normative psychology and psychopathology, and the carefully crafted yet incoherent messages that we are receiving daily from media and society... it means you have to be very careful out there!

If someone tells you that you have a problem, and they have a drug they can give you for that, you should be very skeptical of them and what they have to say about everything.

The number of people that need pharma remediation is very limited, but growing yearly because the most basic psychological health information is not widely spread and there is so little early treatment for virtually any psychopathology.

So sad really, at least in the USA. hf

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Group Think.....

those with "The VIEW" of Joy and Whoopie are allowed.... all others must conform....or be silenced for their personal views.





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